Discussion My Hard Looksmax Plan

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And the total cost?

 
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thecel said:
Distraction Osteogenesis of the Forward Cranium : +25 mm anterior skull length (moves the maxilla with it)

I should’ve wrote that it’s Monobloc, but I forgot that’s what it’s called.
 
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thecel said:
  • MSE : +10 mm upper intermolar
  • Teeth Alignment : fix dental crowding & mandibular dental arch broadening
  • Neurocranial Narrowization : −10 mm head width ( narrows the neurocranium only & doesn’t narrow zygomas & doesn’t narrow zygomatic processes )
  • Distraction Osteogenesis of the Forward Cranium : +25 mm anterior skull length (moves the maxilla with it)
  • OBO : +7.5 mm IPD & +15 mm frontolateral cheekbonal breadth
  • Bilateral Zygorbital Expansion : +7.5 mm PFL & +7.5 mm IPD & +15 mm frontolateral cheekbonal breadth
  • Bilateral Zygomatic Breadth Reduction : −25 mm bizygomatic breadth on fronts (to compensate for +30 mm bizygomatic breadth due to orbital separation & due to orbit width expansion) & −2.5 mm bizygomatic breadth on processes
  • Le Fort 1 Impaction : −5 mm face length
  • Le Fort 2 : +25 mm maxilla–midface advancement
  • Distraction Osteogenesis of the Mandible : +25 mm mandibular body length
  • Sagittal Mandible Jaw Rami Thickening : +15 mm side profile view ramus bones’ width & unchanged mandible length
  • Genioplasty : +10 mm chin projection & consequently +10 mm mandibular body length
  • 15º Degrees Counter-Clockwise Double-Jaw Rotation
  • Custom Wrap-Around Jaw Implant : +7.5 mm jaw width & +10 mm chin breadth
  • Glabellar Forwardization : +12.5 mm glabellar forwardness
  • Supraorbital Forwardization : +7.5 mm brow ridge prominence
  • Medial Canthoplasty : +2.5 mm PFL
  • Lateral Canthoplasty: +2.5 mm PFL
  • Rhinoplasty : Mongoloid nose → Caucasoid nose ( +10 mm radix\nasion projection & more changes )
  • Lip Lift : −5 mm philtrum length & +5 mm chin height
  • Buccal Fat Removal
  • Paranasal Augmentation
  • Infraorbital Implants
  • Eyebrows Lowering, Bilateral Lengthening, Positive-Tilting, Thickening, and Densification


Gaia262 @Gaia262 thoughts?

If only naurocranial narrowing and monobloc 25 mm were actually possible... It would make one so much better looking
 
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thecel said:
“…no matter how impossible the task may seem like.” is a dumb approach to attain success. If the success chances are tiny, the costs outweigh the benefits. The odds of any incel getting a gf are never 0, but that doesn’t mean it’s worth it for everyone to try as hard as they can. At some point, it’s totally rational to say “,it’s over”, and to give up because it’s so damn unlikely to happen, ever.
That only makes sense if you're so handicapped (physically or mentally) that you can't succeed with women or if your standards are too high compared to what you can get.

Even the ugliest and shortest guys, if they work on themselves, and lower their standards, will eventually succeed with women rather quickly. And lowering your standards doesn't have to mean settling for less, but simply changing the way you view women so that you are able to get hard no matter how they look like. And now I'm not saying you should chase women who are obese, but that if you were horny enough you would feel as much sexual desire for a fit woman who has a 3/10 face than you would for a fit woman who has a 10/10 face. The key to achieving such a thing is nofap. When I did it back in 2016, it helped me lower my standards but unfortunately, I still lacked the confidence, simply because I didn't have my shit together (I was failing all my classes, I was really skinny, I had a very visible underbite andlots of acne on my face, so I was insecure because of all those things).

Nihilism never helped anybody. It is actually what leads so many men to commit suicide or to end up living a life that they hate, only to die with many regrets later in life.
 
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thecel said:
I want to at least have NORMAL craniofacial structures. 4 CENTImeters of maxillary advancement is needed just for me to have an AVERAGE maxilla projection. 1 CENTImeter of IPD widening is needed just for me to have an AVERAGE IPD.

Totally agree... you NEED ALL THESE SURGERIES
 
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thecel said:
  • MSE : +10 mm upper intermolar
  • Teeth Alignment : fix dental crowding & mandibular dental arch broadening
  • Neurocranial Narrowization : −10 mm head width ( narrows the neurocranium only & doesn’t narrow zygomas & doesn’t narrow zygomatic processes )
  • Distraction Osteogenesis of the Forward Cranium : +25 mm anterior skull length (moves the maxilla with it)
  • OBO : +7.5 mm IPD & +15 mm frontolateral cheekbonal breadth
  • Bilateral Zygorbital Expansion : +7.5 mm PFL & +7.5 mm IPD & +15 mm frontolateral cheekbonal breadth
  • Bilateral Zygomatic Breadth Reduction : −25 mm bizygomatic breadth on fronts (to compensate for +30 mm bizygomatic breadth due to orbital separation & due to orbit width expansion) & −2.5 mm bizygomatic breadth on processes
  • Le Fort 1 Impaction : −5 mm face length
  • Le Fort 2 : +25 mm maxilla–midface advancement
  • Distraction Osteogenesis of the Mandible : +25 mm mandibular body length
  • Sagittal Mandible Jaw Rami Thickening : +15 mm side profile view ramus bones’ width & unchanged mandible length
  • Genioplasty : +10 mm chin projection & consequently +10 mm mandibular body length
  • 15º Degrees Counter-Clockwise Double-Jaw Rotation
  • Custom Wrap-Around Jaw Implant : +7.5 mm jaw width & +10 mm chin breadth
  • Glabellar Forwardization : +12.5 mm glabellar forwardness
  • Supraorbital Forwardization : +7.5 mm brow ridge prominence
  • Medial Canthoplasty : +2.5 mm PFL
  • Lateral Canthoplasty: +2.5 mm PFL
  • Rhinoplasty : Mongoloid nose → Caucasoid nose ( +10 mm radix\nasion projection & more changes )
  • Lip Lift : −5 mm philtrum length & +5 mm chin height
  • Buccal Fat Removal
  • Paranasal Augmentation
  • Infraorbital Implants
  • Eyebrows Lowering, Bilateral Lengthening, Positive-Tilting, Thickening, and Densification


Gaia262 @Gaia262 thoughts?

my guy trying to escape riceceldom
 
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copingvolcel said:


Like I said before, guys who learn TRP and apply it by looksmaxxing and talking to many women tend to be the most successful with women. They get laid the most and they have the best relationships, the best career and they live their best life. They definitely don't spend most of their time on a forum, instead, they focus on their self improvement and they achieve their goals.

That's the difference between the red pill and the black pill. The black pill is an excuse for doing nothing while the red pill motivates men to improve themselves to get what they want from life. Black pilled men set their own limits, while red pilled men constantly seek to achieve their goals no matter how impossible the task may seem like.
He needs TheRaPy
 
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OP is obv joking but often here I see a lot of overprescribing. 99% of men who have ‘issues with their face’ need at least one of only four procedures:

(1) Bimax (with or without genio)
(2) Rhino
(3) Infraorbital-malar implants (swap out for filler/lipofilling if needs be)
(4) HT
 
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CharlesTheMartyr said:
As long as you are 4+PSL and vaguely NT you should be fine. There is no need to get all these surgeries
Did you actually take him seriously ?
 
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APJ said:
OP is obv joking but often here I see a lot of overprescribing. 99% of men who have ‘issues with their face’ need at least one of only four procedures:

(1) Bimax (with or without genio)
(2) Rhino
(3) Infraorbital-malar implants (swap out for filler/lipofilling if needs be)
(4) HT
It’s jaw > hair > eyes. If your nose is failing get a rhino. You got it. Everything else is pointless
 
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one job away said:
It’s jaw > hair > eyes. If your nose is failing get a rhino. You got it. Everything else is pointless
I absolutely agree on your ranking too. Jaw is law, then hair, then eyes.
 
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Why not just work on your personality a little bit more instead of all these complex surgeries:what:
 
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But fr man, I think I said it to you twice already but you need to max your height with hgh or peptides or sth(you figure the best way out yourself probably) as long as there is a chance
 
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APJ said:
I absolutely agree on your ranking too. Jaw is law, then hair, then eyes.

Haircope. Eyes are way more important than hair is. Jaw versus eyes is debatable; eyes versus hair isn’t.
 
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thecel said:
Haircope. Eyes are way more important than hair is. Jaw versus eyes is debatable; eyes versus hair isn’t.
I improved eye area and hair, and hair gave me way better boost in results
 
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APJ said:
I improved eye area and hair, and hair gave me way better boost in results

I guess you didn’t improve your eyes and your hair by equal amounts.
 
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APJ said:
I improved eye area and hair, and hair gave me way better boost in results
Did you got a HT?
 
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You forgot the most important : Leg / Clavicle Lenghtening and Penis Enlargement
 
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lasthope said:
Did you got a HT?
Yep, to NW1 (or whatever 'a full head of hair with an 18yos hairline is). Both my eye area and my hair started off pretty average and ended up top notch, but it was clear the hair improvement was significantly more helpful.
 
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APJ said:
Yep, to NW1 (or whatever 'a full head of hair with an 18yos hairline is). Both my eye area and my hair started off pretty average and ended up top notch, but it was clear the hair improvement was significantly more helpful.
mirin
how did you looksmaxxed your eyes?
 
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thecel said:
  • MSE : +10 mm upper intermolar
  • Teeth Alignment : fix dental crowding & mandibular dental arch broadening
  • Neurocranial Narrowization : −10 mm head width ( narrows the neurocranium only & doesn’t narrow zygomas & doesn’t narrow zygomatic processes )
  • Distraction Osteogenesis of the Forward Cranium : +25 mm anterior skull length (moves the maxilla with it)
  • OBO : +7.5 mm IPD & +15 mm frontolateral cheekbonal breadth
  • Bilateral Zygorbital Expansion : +7.5 mm PFL & +7.5 mm IPD & +15 mm frontolateral cheekbonal breadth
  • Bilateral Zygomatic Breadth Reduction : −25 mm bizygomatic breadth on fronts (to compensate for +30 mm bizygomatic breadth due to orbital separation & due to orbit width expansion) & −2.5 mm bizygomatic breadth on processes
  • Le Fort 1 Impaction : −5 mm face length
  • Le Fort 2 : +25 mm maxilla–midface advancement
  • Distraction Osteogenesis of the Mandible : +25 mm mandibular body length
  • Sagittal Mandible Jaw Rami Thickening : +15 mm side profile view ramus bones’ width & unchanged mandible length
  • Genioplasty : +10 mm chin projection & consequently +10 mm mandibular body length
  • 15º Degrees Counter-Clockwise Double-Jaw Rotation
  • Custom Wrap-Around Jaw Implant : +7.5 mm jaw width & +10 mm chin breadth
  • Glabellar Forwardization : +12.5 mm glabellar forwardness
  • Supraorbital Forwardization : +7.5 mm brow ridge prominence
  • Medial Canthoplasty : +2.5 mm PFL
  • Lateral Canthoplasty: +2.5 mm PFL
  • Rhinoplasty : Mongoloid nose → Caucasoid nose ( +10 mm radix\nasion projection & more changes )
  • Lip Lift : −5 mm philtrum length & +5 mm chin height
  • Buccal Fat Removal
  • Paranasal Augmentation
  • Infraorbital Implants
  • Eyebrows Lowering, Bilateral Lengthening, Positive-Tilting, Thickening, and Densification


Gaia262 @Gaia262 thoughts?

Sad that we don't even have the technology to actually do this even if someone was serious and wanted to do all these. Lefort 2 isn't even offered cosmetically and I don't think there's any way to reduce cranial width.
 
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thecel said:
  • MSE : +10 mm upper intermolar
  • Teeth Alignment : fix dental crowding & mandibular dental arch broadening
  • Neurocranial Narrowization : −10 mm head width ( narrows the neurocranium only & doesn’t narrow zygomas & doesn’t narrow zygomatic processes )
  • Distraction Osteogenesis of the Forward Cranium : +25 mm anterior skull length (moves the maxilla with it)
  • OBO : +7.5 mm IPD & +15 mm frontolateral cheekbonal breadth
  • Bilateral Zygorbital Expansion : +7.5 mm PFL & +7.5 mm IPD & +15 mm frontolateral cheekbonal breadth
  • Bilateral Zygomatic Breadth Reduction : −25 mm bizygomatic breadth on fronts (to compensate for +30 mm bizygomatic breadth due to orbital separation & due to orbit width expansion) & −2.5 mm bizygomatic breadth on processes
  • Le Fort 1 Impaction : −5 mm face length
  • Le Fort 2 : +25 mm maxilla–midface advancement
  • Distraction Osteogenesis of the Mandible : +25 mm mandibular body length
  • Sagittal Mandible Jaw Rami Thickening : +15 mm side profile view ramus bones’ width & unchanged mandible length
  • Genioplasty : +10 mm chin projection & consequently +10 mm mandibular body length
  • 15º Degrees Counter-Clockwise Double-Jaw Rotation
  • Custom Wrap-Around Jaw Implant : +7.5 mm jaw width & +10 mm chin breadth
  • Glabellar Forwardization : +12.5 mm glabellar forwardness
  • Supraorbital Forwardization : +7.5 mm brow ridge prominence
  • Medial Canthoplasty : +2.5 mm PFL
  • Lateral Canthoplasty: +2.5 mm PFL
  • Rhinoplasty : Mongoloid nose → Caucasoid nose ( +10 mm radix\nasion projection & more changes )
  • Lip Lift : −5 mm philtrum length & +5 mm chin height
  • Buccal Fat Removal
  • Paranasal Augmentation
  • Infraorbital Implants
  • Eyebrows Lowering, Bilateral Lengthening, Positive-Tilting, Thickening, and Densification


Gaia262 @Gaia262 thoughts?

Good lord I don’t even know where to begin. “Neurocranial narrowization” ”glabellar forwardization” “Bilateral Zygorbital Expansion” - I just searched these terms on google and there’s legitimately only 2 results and both of them links right back here - which are posted by you. you can’t just invent a bunch of surgeries in your head and expect a surgeon to even know what to do. I mean with OBO + and Bilateral Zygorbital Expansion, youd get 15 fucking mm of IPD, I don’t even think syndrome patients have ever gotten that much before, and with the dual canthoplasty - that will yield 12.5 mm of additional pfl on each eyes JFL wtf. Then you want to get like 4 different jaw surgeries AND a jaw implant, do you even know how comical you are going to look like afterwards?Then a lefort 1 and 2, why not add the 3rd and complete the trinity? after all this and you are still not close to done jfl, that’s a lifetime worth of surgeries taking into account of planning and recovery, you‘re gonna be looksmaxing into your retirement years.
 

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