nur bimax
I didn’t even know that a (proper) bimax surgery is possible without braces. How did safi fix your jaw after surgery when he couldn’t do it with rubber bands on the braces?
I think it was about half half, mind you at the lowest point.|
think he called it a splint
Not sure if he had this, but usually they'll screw posts into your jaw that the elastics attach to.
to just be a ltn. how sad. although if that what's you aimed for godspeed boyo.13° Rotation, nearly 30mm advancement of the Mandible (Bimax+Genio). Some minor mid face enhancements were also done. Paid 35k.
Pre-Surgical simulation which mirrors my result 1:1:
I was the perfect candidate for this surgery since I am just downgrown but otherwise have good proportions. In his youth my dad looked like a model and now I look really close to him.
Will post final result and more pictures after the recovery and with the swelling gone, make sure to follow on Instagram to be updated: https://www.instagram.com/neomichelangelo/
The surgeon, or maestro I should say, who has provided me with this insane result is relatively unknown. His name is Dr. Safi, he practices in Bern and operates in Zürich. His prices start at around 25k. https://www.craniologicum.ch/
He is already experienced as he was the senior surgeon at Sailerklinik for a few years now; he opened his own office very recently.
I basically got Sailer movement for 1/3 of the price; and Sailer doesn't even operate himself anymore; people who went to Sailer in the last few years got operated by the same guy but paid much more.
I am sure that in a few years his prices will spiral upwards as Dr. Safi is able to provide these insane results with big movements on a regular basis. For this reason I would personally already put him up there with the other top surgeons such as Raffani. I was debating between Safi and Raffaini but ultimately the time and care that was put into the (pricey) consult convinced me of Safi even though I had not seen a single result of his at that time. He was able to meet most of my personal wishes and together we composed the perfect plan for the surgery.
Another thing I have to add is that this was a minimally invasive procedure. 5 days post-surgery and I am already walking through Bern with some minor swelling. Yes, I still have trouble talking and am drooling but thanks to painkillers it is basically painless and people don't even realize I had surgery if they don't look twice.
One thing I have to add, is that another reason for this great result is the research and knowledge I accumulated. Since I joined here I spent 100s of hours doing research and learning how to actually effectively turn your life around. At the start things seem very confusing and it is almost impossible to get a full grasp of things, especially with all the bad information out there. Day after day I see wrong and potentially dangerous advise being given.
This is the reason why to this day so many people still get botched. Even many surgeons do not know what kind of movement is needed or do not have the aesthetic eye. They are still able to provide relatively good results from time to time but going into a surgery without ever personally hearing all the options out there might be a huge mistake - unless you go with a god like Sailer, Raffini, Safi, etc. But even then, to get the best result possible having a good plan is still necessary.
For this reason I plan to offer professional consults which contain all of the information you need or could ask for. It will provide looksmaxxers with a detailed analysis and an in depth discussion about all options available. Prices for this will start at 50€. In the last few weeks I have already tested myself on a few users via dms and it showed me that I can be of great help. I am yet to set up a website for this where I will list all services provided. I have spoken and done research on most of the top surgeons so I know what is possible and what isn't.
If you are interested dm me here or on my Instagram and make sure to leave a follow to stay updated: https://www.instagram.com/neomichelangelo/
Wow.
dm me on insta
lol no the bite doesnt get touched
The lip position looks fucked
Rule one of Blackpill is we don’t sugarcoat and gaslight like women.
Muh happy. Reminds me of girls talking about their fat friends, “she’s happy with her weight WHY do you care”
BEAUTY IS OBJECTIVE. No such thing as “ he’s happy with his looks. Leave him alone”
I’m doing him a bigger disservice by not letting him get deluded by other gaslighting impressionable kids who thinks his results look good.
Also, who even cares if someone is not being honest. Maybe OP wants people to say positive things about his result.
what's a "bioimplant" made of13° Rotation, nearly 30mm advancement of the Mandible (Bimax+Genio). Some minor mid face enhancements were also done. Paid 35k.
Pre-Surgical simulation which mirrors my result 1:1:
I was the perfect candidate for this surgery since I am just downgrown but otherwise have good proportions. In his youth my dad looked like a model and now I look really close to him.
Will post final result and more pictures after the recovery and with the swelling gone, make sure to follow on Instagram to be updated: https://www.instagram.com/neomichelangelo/
The surgeon, or maestro I should say, who has provided me with this insane result is relatively unknown. His name is Dr. Safi, he practices in Bern and operates in Zürich. His prices start at around 25k. https://www.craniologicum.ch/
He is already experienced as he was the senior surgeon at Sailerklinik for a few years now; he opened his own office very recently.
I basically got Sailer movement for 1/3 of the price; and Sailer doesn't even operate himself anymore; people who went to Sailer in the last few years got operated by the same guy but paid much more.
I am sure that in a few years his prices will spiral upwards as Dr. Safi is able to provide these insane results with big movements on a regular basis. For this reason I would personally already put him up there with the other top surgeons such as Raffani. I was debating between Safi and Raffaini but ultimately the time and care that was put into the (pricey) consult convinced me of Safi even though I had not seen a single result of his at that time. He was able to meet most of my personal wishes and together we composed the perfect plan for the surgery.
Another thing I have to add is that this was a minimally invasive procedure. 5 days post-surgery and I am already walking through Bern with some minor swelling. Yes, I still have trouble talking and am drooling but thanks to painkillers it is basically painless and people don't even realize I had surgery if they don't look twice.
One thing I have to add, is that another reason for this great result is the research and knowledge I accumulated. Since I joined here I spent 100s of hours doing research and learning how to actually effectively turn your life around. At the start things seem very confusing and it is almost impossible to get a full grasp of things, especially with all the bad information out there. Day after day I see wrong and potentially dangerous advise being given.
This is the reason why to this day so many people still get botched. Even many surgeons do not know what kind of movement is needed or do not have the aesthetic eye. They are still able to provide relatively good results from time to time but going into a surgery without ever personally hearing all the options out there might be a huge mistake - unless you go with a god like Sailer, Raffini, Safi, etc. But even then, to get the best result possible having a good plan is still necessary.
For this reason I plan to offer professional consults which contain all of the information you need or could ask for. It will provide looksmaxxers with a detailed analysis and an in depth discussion about all options available. Prices for this will start at 50€. In the last few weeks I have already tested myself on a few users via dms and it showed me that I can be of great help. I am yet to set up a website for this where I will list all services provided. I have spoken and done research on most of the top surgeons so I know what is possible and what isn't.
If you are interested dm me here or on my Instagram and make sure to leave a follow to stay updated: https://www.instagram.com/neomichelangelo/
www.sailerclinic.com
I hadn't heard of Raffaini but i just went on his instagram and holy shit the guy is an actual magician13° Rotation, nearly 30mm advancement of the Mandible (Bimax+Genio). Some minor mid face enhancements were also done. Paid 35k.
Pre-Surgical simulation which mirrors my result 1:1:
I was the perfect candidate for this surgery since I am just downgrown but otherwise have good proportions. In his youth my dad looked like a model and now I look really close to him.
Will post final result and more pictures after the recovery and with the swelling gone, make sure to follow on Instagram to be updated: https://www.instagram.com/neomichelangelo/
The surgeon, or maestro I should say, who has provided me with this insane result is relatively unknown. His name is Dr. Safi, he practices in Bern and operates in Zürich. His prices start at around 25k. https://www.craniologicum.ch/
He is already experienced as he was the senior surgeon at Sailerklinik for a few years now; he opened his own office very recently.
I basically got Sailer movement for 1/3 of the price; and Sailer doesn't even operate himself anymore; people who went to Sailer in the last few years got operated by the same guy but paid much more.
I am sure that in a few years his prices will spiral upwards as Dr. Safi is able to provide these insane results with big movements on a regular basis. For this reason I would personally already put him up there with the other top surgeons such as Raffani. I was debating between Safi and Raffaini but ultimately the time and care that was put into the (pricey) consult convinced me of Safi even though I had not seen a single result of his at that time. He was able to meet most of my personal wishes and together we composed the perfect plan for the surgery.
Another thing I have to add is that this was a minimally invasive procedure. 5 days post-surgery and I am already walking through Bern with some minor swelling. Yes, I still have trouble talking and am drooling but thanks to painkillers it is basically painless and people don't even realize I had surgery if they don't look twice.
One thing I have to add, is that another reason for this great result is the research and knowledge I accumulated. Since I joined here I spent 100s of hours doing research and learning how to actually effectively turn your life around. At the start things seem very confusing and it is almost impossible to get a full grasp of things, especially with all the bad information out there. Day after day I see wrong and potentially dangerous advise being given.
This is the reason why to this day so many people still get botched. Even many surgeons do not know what kind of movement is needed or do not have the aesthetic eye. They are still able to provide relatively good results from time to time but going into a surgery without ever personally hearing all the options out there might be a huge mistake - unless you go with a god like Sailer, Raffini, Safi, etc. But even then, to get the best result possible having a good plan is still necessary.
For this reason I plan to offer professional consults which contain all of the information you need or could ask for. It will provide looksmaxxers with a detailed analysis and an in depth discussion about all options available. Prices for this will start at 50€. In the last few weeks I have already tested myself on a few users via dms and it showed me that I can be of great help. I am yet to set up a website for this where I will list all services provided. I have spoken and done research on most of the top surgeons so I know what is possible and what isn't.
If you are interested dm me here or on my Instagram and make sure to leave a follow to stay updated: https://www.instagram.com/neomichelangelo/
tbh I have no idea, I went to a local place where I could get it, was unrelated to my surgeon, I even did it before I knew I wanted Bimax & I just did what they told me. My surgeon used his own 3D scans.
actually it was 12 days iirc. They recommended 2 weeks minimum but in my case I could have left after 8-9 days even.
Why were you able to leave so early
because my body was surprisingly healthy after doing primal diet & the healingg went super fast
primal diet is paleo?
Maybe ppl should wonder why nobody post surgical results. Because retarded teenagers here think they have more input then a trained jaw surgeon. This is the only thing you can do in this life about changing your genetics. Unless you want to jack off about mewing and clearing the 3 pimples you have with your $500 skincare.stop coping guys, idc if people attempt to throw insults at me, it s quite amusing
I made this thread to inform & help others, I wasn't making it to dox myself. "i prefer your before" when people don't even know how i looked.
Philosophy of the SailerClinic – SailerClinic
na primal is raw animal products, fruit, honey etc sounds hardcore but it s actually chill
raw meat??
beff tatar, german mett, sushi etcraw meat??
mirin..
Bro wie kann man dich dm?
it does
did u also get assymetries fixed?
yes was 1 of the main things. it s still somewhat apparent in the soft tissue but I feel like correcting bone is the main issue & is likely to fix it over time.
dm me on insta
did your submental area get better? hyoid go up from the additional mandibular length and width? Is it worth getting if im mainly downgrown but only slighly recessed? Id assume its the best long ter option is to just suck it up and save the money for the surgery if your a true looksaxxer so you look good with just your bones then you have a good base for implants or whatever.
yes and yes. exactly. downgrown people have a rly good base but have to go through a lot to achieve their looks goals
all i gotta do now is save up the money for it and hopefully be able to get it in about 2 years maybe 1.5 years if im lucky. How much does a typical Coceancig style trimax cost? and I have a slight overjet and slight crowding on my upper teeth. Bottom teeth are good though. Is it recomended to fix bite before bimax? Its not really that noticeable for me.
you probably should fix it before if you can and prices from 20.000 upwards I d say
i m not 100% happy with my result yet but yes
What do you find unsatisfactory? Also did u have any long term complications like nerve damage? I have SFS and I’m considering bimax but if BSSO or genio can fix me I’d take that since I’m scared of complication
