Firstly, amazing life changing results. Happy for you.
healing going insanely fast, didnt take any meds since 2 weeks. Been doing sports a lot already. Very happy with the cheek implants. Still some swelling in midface & chin area. Still no feeling in lower lip & chin area.
Hmmm I am not sure if my genio turned out optimally but can't say yet. Might do a 2nd genio if I am not happy with the result. Raffaini didn't mention it to me!
longer face from genio?
that too but shape of chin seems a bit too squareish rn.
forget what I said tho, I am just speculating at this point. might also be the area where the mandible was cut. also talking about minuscule ridiculous details that can be corrected when removing metals. it s really too early to come to conclusions.
so how should one plan the bimax to avoid chimpmaxx as best as possible
ccw + dont move the anS point
which is basically what I did, those people are just complete copers lmao, my lip & philtrum looks the same it looked before. does it look optimal yet? surely not but because of the downward growth & not because of bimax.
People here will always shittalk ngl
not at all I am very very happy with it and would always do it again. But I knew this before I went into the surgery (in my mind I was always optimistic about it) whereas the implants & genio were a bit more unpredictable.
Orbitals: Maybe but probably nothing too big - will see about that. Paranasal: I planned to do that but I actually think my paranasal area looks really good now. There is too much swelling in that area tho so not sure. Maybe just bone grafts when I remove metals.
You got an updated picture now that swelling would be down?
did not wear braces at all. I am going to get invisalign & will gave it between 3 & 6 months.
dm me on insta
you mean bone graft?
Great, Really Good Effort Bro13° Rotation, nearly 30mm advancement of the Mandible (Bimax+Genio). Some minor mid face enhancements were also done. Paid 35k.
Pre-Surgical simulation which mirrors my result 1:1:
I was the perfect candidate for this surgery since I am just downgrown but otherwise have good proportions. In his youth my dad looked like a model and now I look really close to him.
Will post final result and more pictures after the recovery and with the swelling gone, make sure to follow on Instagram to be updated: https://www.instagram.com/neomichelangelo/
The surgeon, or maestro I should say, who has provided me with this insane result is relatively unknown. His name is Dr. Safi, he practices in Bern and operates in Zürich. His prices start at around 25k. https://www.craniologicum.ch/
He is already experienced as he was the senior surgeon at Sailerklinik for a few years now; he opened his own office very recently.
I basically got Sailer movement for 1/3 of the price; and Sailer doesn't even operate himself anymore; people who went to Sailer in the last few years got operated by the same guy but paid much more.
I am sure that in a few years his prices will spiral upwards as Dr. Safi is able to provide these insane results with big movements on a regular basis. For this reason I would personally already put him up there with the other top surgeons such as Raffani. I was debating between Safi and Raffaini but ultimately the time and care that was put into the (pricey) consult convinced me of Safi even though I had not seen a single result of his at that time. He was able to meet most of my personal wishes and together we composed the perfect plan for the surgery.
Another thing I have to add is that this was a minimally invasive procedure. 5 days post-surgery and I am already walking through Bern with some minor swelling. Yes, I still have trouble talking and am drooling but thanks to painkillers it is basically painless and people don't even realize I had surgery if they don't look twice.
One thing I have to add, is that another reason for this great result is the research and knowledge I accumulated. Since I joined here I spent 100s of hours doing research and learning how to actually effectively turn your life around. At the start things seem very confusing and it is almost impossible to get a full grasp of things, especially with all the bad information out there. Day after day I see wrong and potentially dangerous advise being given.
This is the reason why to this day so many people still get botched. Even many surgeons do not know what kind of movement is needed or do not have the aesthetic eye. They are still able to provide relatively good results from time to time but going into a surgery without ever personally hearing all the options out there might be a huge mistake - unless you go with a god like Sailer, Raffini, Safi, etc. But even then, to get the best result possible having a good plan is still necessary.
For this reason I plan to offer professional consults which contain all of the information you need or could ask for. It will provide looksmaxxers with a detailed analysis and an in depth discussion about all options available. Prices for this will start at 50€. In the last few weeks I have already tested myself on a few users via dms and it showed me that I can be of great help. I am yet to set up a website for this where I will list all services provided. I have spoken and done research on most of the top surgeons so I know what is possible and what isn't.
If you are interested dm me here or on my Instagram and make sure to leave a follow to stay updated: https://www.instagram.com/neomichelangelo/
appreciate the kind words.
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not much of difference tbh
You doubled the length of the submental region which is fantastic.
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What’s the swelling % you’d say?
I think the temple and upper third can be frauded with hair if it’s bad. Transplant can be adjusted too…I think OP looks quite better than what he started with The big work on the jaw is complete
very minor rnThis shit looks fantastic
Pitt, Delon, Reeves have the same temple region. My upper 3rd aint even that bad, it s about perspective & lense distortion since I m using an old Iphone. But yeah I somewhat agree with you about the ratios. would not have gotten this result if I didn't plan to do sth for my upper 3rd going forward.
Why do some of you here get so mad at other people's life choices? He got the surgery, he's still swelling, he looks good and he's happy with it.
