my INSANE bimax result

What do you find unsatisfactory? Also did u have any long term complications like nerve damage? I have SFS and I’m considering bimax but if BSSO or genio can fix me I’d take that since I’m scared of complication
i dont have the feeling in the lower lip fully back yet. also not 100% happy with the chin & also some soft tissue things related to downgrowth that i need to get rid of
 
13° Rotation, nearly 30mm advancement of the Mandible (Bimax+Genio). Some minor mid face enhancements were also done. Paid 35k.
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Pre-Surgical simulation which mirrors my result 1:1:

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I was the perfect candidate for this surgery since I am just downgrown but otherwise have good proportions. In his youth my dad looked like a model and now I look really close to him.
Will post final result and more pictures after the recovery and with the swelling gone, make sure to follow on Instagram to be updated: https://www.instagram.com/neomichelangelo/

The surgeon, or maestro I should say, who has provided me with this insane result is relatively unknown. His name is Dr. Safi, he practices in Bern and operates in Zürich. His prices start at around 25k. https://www.craniologicum.ch/
He is already experienced as he was the senior surgeon at Sailerklinik for a few years now; he opened his own office very recently.
I basically got Sailer movement for 1/3 of the price; and Sailer doesn't even operate himself anymore; people who went to Sailer in the last few years got operated by the same guy but paid much more. :lul:😅
I am sure that in a few years his prices will spiral upwards as Dr. Safi is able to provide these insane results with big movements on a regular basis. For this reason I would personally already put him up there with the other top surgeons such as Raffani. I was debating between Safi and Raffaini but ultimately the time and care that was put into the (pricey) consult convinced me of Safi even though I had not seen a single result of his at that time. He was able to meet most of my personal wishes and together we composed the perfect plan for the surgery.
Another thing I have to add is that this was a minimally invasive procedure. 5 days post-surgery and I am already walking through Bern with some minor swelling. Yes, I still have trouble talking and am drooling but thanks to painkillers it is basically painless and people don't even realize I had surgery if they don't look twice.


One thing I have to add, is that another reason for this great result is the research and knowledge I accumulated. Since I joined here I spent 100s of hours doing research and learning how to actually effectively turn your life around. At the start things seem very confusing and it is almost impossible to get a full grasp of things, especially with all the bad information out there. Day after day I see wrong and potentially dangerous advise being given.
This is the reason why to this day so many people still get botched. Even many surgeons do not know what kind of movement is needed or do not have the aesthetic eye. They are still able to provide relatively good results from time to time but going into a surgery without ever personally hearing all the options out there might be a huge mistake - unless you go with a god like Sailer, Raffini, Safi, etc. But even then, to get the best result possible having a good plan is still necessary.

For this reason I plan to offer professional consults which contain all of the information you need or could ask for. It will provide looksmaxxers with a detailed analysis and an in depth discussion about all options available. Prices for this will start at 50€. In the last few weeks I have already tested myself on a few users via dms and it showed me that I can be of great help. I am yet to set up a website for this where I will list all services provided. I have spoken and done research on most of the top surgeons so I know what is possible and what isn't.

If you are interested dm me here or on my Instagram and make sure to leave a follow to stay updated: https://www.instagram.com/neomichelangelo/
kill your self eta reccsed cel fucking faggot niggger
 
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kill your self eta reccsed cel fucking faggot niggger
15 y old downgrown currycel roasting a German, how times change. Go kiss a cow or something.
 
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What do you find unsatisfactory? Also did u have any long term complications like nerve damage? I have SFS and I’m considering bimax but if BSSO or genio can fix me I’d take that since I’m scared of complication
but yes i 100% recommend to get bimax
 
Well with bimax you only have a option for lefort 1, rarely lefort 2 or 3 which is needed for people with midface recession.

When you only advance the lower maxilla aka lefort 1 you create this highly feminizing effect on the lower midface (paranasal) and it makes you look gay and feminine.

It’s also why most mse results look bad. It’s why most cheekbone implants look bad because they put them too low
How it look gay and feminine
 
@anticel dmed u, please check
 
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It creates a facial slope,
think of the feminine nose slope but applied to the whole face
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you are wrong the reason for it is something else kek
 
Why your Instagram does not exist anymore?
 
good result but it looks like your chin just keeps on going, probably looks great irl.
 
good result but it looks like your chin just keeps on going, probably looks great irl.
the genio technique used was shit. looks good irl but not 100% happy, might get a revision
 
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13° Rotation, nearly 30mm advancement of the Mandible (Bimax+Genio). Some minor mid face enhancements were also done. Paid 35k.
hNALimGsAwBSu1K_1689015454.png

Jy6M4TBZ62Uzm4W_1689016872.png


Pre-Surgical simulation which mirrors my result 1:1:

7s4rug.gif


I was the perfect candidate for this surgery since I am just downgrown but otherwise have good proportions. In his youth my dad looked like a model and now I look really close to him.
Will post final result and more pictures after the recovery and with the swelling gone, make sure to follow on Instagram to be updated: https://www.instagram.com/neomichelangelo/

The surgeon, or maestro I should say, who has provided me with this insane result is relatively unknown. His name is Dr. Safi, he practices in Bern and operates in Zürich. His prices start at around 25k. https://www.craniologicum.ch/
He is already experienced as he was the senior surgeon at Sailerklinik for a few years now; he opened his own office very recently.
I basically got Sailer movement for 1/3 of the price; and Sailer doesn't even operate himself anymore; people who went to Sailer in the last few years got operated by the same guy but paid much more. :lul:😅
I am sure that in a few years his prices will spiral upwards as Dr. Safi is able to provide these insane results with big movements on a regular basis. For this reason I would personally already put him up there with the other top surgeons such as Raffani. I was debating between Safi and Raffaini but ultimately the time and care that was put into the (pricey) consult convinced me of Safi even though I had not seen a single result of his at that time. He was able to meet most of my personal wishes and together we composed the perfect plan for the surgery.
Another thing I have to add is that this was a minimally invasive procedure. 5 days post-surgery and I am already walking through Bern with some minor swelling. Yes, I still have trouble talking and am drooling but thanks to painkillers it is basically painless and people don't even realize I had surgery if they don't look twice.


One thing I have to add, is that another reason for this great result is the research and knowledge I accumulated. Since I joined here I spent 100s of hours doing research and learning how to actually effectively turn your life around. At the start things seem very confusing and it is almost impossible to get a full grasp of things, especially with all the bad information out there. Day after day I see wrong and potentially dangerous advise being given.
This is the reason why to this day so many people still get botched. Even many surgeons do not know what kind of movement is needed or do not have the aesthetic eye. They are still able to provide relatively good results from time to time but going into a surgery without ever personally hearing all the options out there might be a huge mistake - unless you go with a god like Sailer, Raffini, Safi, etc. But even then, to get the best result possible having a good plan is still necessary.

For this reason I plan to offer professional consults which contain all of the information you need or could ask for. It will provide looksmaxxers with a detailed analysis and an in depth discussion about all options available. Prices for this will start at 50€. In the last few weeks I have already tested myself on a few users via dms and it showed me that I can be of great help. I am yet to set up a website for this where I will list all services provided. I have spoken and done research on most of the top surgeons so I know what is possible and what isn't.

If you are interested dm me here or on my Instagram and make sure to leave a follow to stay updated: https://www.instagram.com/neomichelangelo/
your insta link is not working
 
people get dog maxxed if they don't g
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They actually aren't, they look rly good. Will post once swelling is gone

et enough rotation. I can assure you I am not but if you doubt it wait for my post swelling picturIt's been a

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They actually aren't, they look rly good. Will post once swelling is gone
It's been a year bro, swelling must be gone by now. Please post the front results man
 
This was an insane ascension good job man! Hardmaxxingresults on tiktok and Hardmaxxuser on here is setting up a surgery looksmaxxing community. Pls send him your ascension photos if you'd like.
 
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This was an insane ascension good job man! Hardmaxxingresults on tiktok and Hardmaxxuser on here is setting up a surgery looksmaxxing community. Pls send him your ascension photos if you'd like.
nop
 
Charlie kirk mentioned:p
 
if i was 18 i would do a trimax
 
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based bump.
 
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they were on autodelete after plenty months
Ahh okay, I think I remember you tho. Did you ever end up getting a revision for your chin?
 
Ahh okay, I think I remember you tho. Did you ever end up getting a revision for your chin?
planning it rn, not just chin whole lower jaw turned out to be fucked up. also dont recommend safi anymore.
 
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planning it rn, not just chin whole lower jaw turned out to be fucked up. also dont recommend safi anymore.
Damn I’m sorry it turned out like that bro. Are there more people who went to him and are dissatisfied?

I noticed he kinda stopped posting actively on his ig a while ago and figured something might be up, that’s why I came to this thread again.

So far any idea who you’ll be going with for the revision? And where do you think it went wrong with him and you? Anything on your side with expectations or simply a lack of his own proper surgical competence?

Wish you the best man, been following you on ig for a while.
 
Damn I’m sorry it turned out like that bro. Are there more people who went to him and are dissatisfied?

I noticed he kinda stopped posting actively on his ig a while ago and figured something might be up, that’s why I came to this thread again.

So far any idea who you’ll be going with for the revision? And where do you think it went wrong with him and you? Anything on your side with expectations or simply a lack of his own proper surgical competence?

Wish you the best man, been following you on ig for a while.
plenty yes he turned out to be really disappointing ngl. revision with Ebker planned.

idk if I am ready to talk about Safi we had a good personal relationship or so I thought, maybe in the future.

Thank you for the kind words. I will probably post again when I am doing my revision - lots of planning behind the scenes rn!
 
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plenty yes he turned out to be really disappointing ngl. revision with Ebker planned.
Good to see you’re taking your next steps, also very noble that you’ve been upfront about the current state despite earlier having high expressed trust and expectations. Takes balls to do so
idk if I am ready to talk about Safi we had a good personal relationship or so I thought, maybe in the future.
No worries I get that. Personally I have already kind of disqualified him for my future plans. Initially because he’s not exactly the cheapest, but now I’ve been encountering more and more demotivating and disheartening signs regarding him and his practices. If you do ever want to say more, I’ll be interested to learn more.
Thank you for the kind words. I will probably post again when I am doing my revision - lots of planning behind the scenes rn!
Of course man. As I said, I’ve been following you for a while and initially really reasonated with your message and philosophy. You take looksmaxxing serious but at the same time have a pretty nice outlook on life it seems. Very different from avg org user.

Wishing you the best with Ebker
 
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Good to see you’re taking your next steps, also very noble that you’ve been upfront about the current state despite earlier having high expressed trust and expectations. Takes balls to do so

No worries I get that. Personally I have already kind of disqualified him for my future plans. Initially because he’s not exactly the cheapest, but now I’ve been encountering more and more demotivating and disheartening signs regarding him and his practices. If you do ever want to say more, I’ll be interested to learn more.

Of course man. As I said, I’ve been following you for a while and initially really reasonated with your message and philosophy. You take looksmaxxing serious but at the same time have a pretty nice outlook on life it seems. Very different from avg org user.

Wishing you the best with Ebker
Yeah it took me a time to realize it. I believe this is the case with plenty of cases. there is cognitive dissonance. everyone expects these surgeries to fix all the problems in their lifes & even if the surgeries go alright this is simply not the case.
It shattered that expectation for me but I was later able to do it all by myself.

What are you planning if I may ask?

Yeah there are plenty of things I have to say about this. & thank you again. I will keep everyone who follows me updated of course!
 
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Yeah it took me a time to realize it. I believe this is the case with plenty of cases. there is cognitive dissonance. everyone expects these surgeries to fix all the problems in their lifes & even if the surgeries go alright this is simply not the case.
That’s what happens when we spend so much time on this pressure cooker website, eventually somethings just go wrong and kinda explode in our faces
It shattered that expectation for me but I was later able to do it all by myself.
Yeah but atleast you managed to still stay strong it seems, which is an admirable trait. Very Muh bluepilled talk, sure, but it’s the way it is.
What are you planning if I may ask?
Everything :forcedsmile:

On a real note now haha, I’m looking for some more advancement for facial depth mainly. So ideally, if possible, an lf2, but realistically a high cut lf1. Some mandible lengthening through bsso. A genioplasty for a taller chin. And I’m considering infra’s too, just for anti aging purposes. Might add fat grafts in a few years if I deem it necessary.

The main thing that’s stopping me now is whether I should get a custom marpe ahead of all this, for some airway gains, or go straight into into it. Been researching FME as well recently. However that’s only available in the US and I’m not in the mood to travel there frequently tbh.

As for money, I’ve been working 60-hour weeks the past years while aggressively saving/investing. So there’s no worries anymore when it comes to that.

All in all, I am currently already decent looking (slightly a cute cel but defined face, lean, muscular, 6’2). Enough to get around with girls etc. But I’m doing this for the love of the game tbh. I’ve always strived for greatness in every area of my life: academics, sports, entrepreneurship.
So this is no exception.
Yeah there are plenty of things I have to say about this. & thank you again. I will keep everyone who follows me updated of course!
Great thanks!
 
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That’s what happens when we spend so much time on this pressure cooker website, eventually somethings just go wrong and kinda explode in our faces

Yeah but atleast you managed to still stay strong it seems, which is an admirable trait. Very Muh bluepilled talk, sure, but it’s the way it is.

Everything :forcedsmile:

On a real note now haha, I’m looking for some more advancement for facial depth mainly. So ideally, if possible, an lf2, but realistically a high cut lf1. Some mandible lengthening through bsso. A genioplasty for a taller chin. And I’m considering infra’s too, just for anti aging purposes. Might add fat grafts in a few years if I deem it necessary.

The main thing that’s stopping me now is whether I should get a custom marpe ahead of all this, for some airway gains, or go straight into into it. Been researching FME as well recently. However that’s only available in the US and I’m not in the mood to travel there frequently tbh.

As for money, I’ve been working 60-hour weeks the past years while aggressively saving/investing. So there’s no worries anymore when it comes to that.

All in all, I am currently already decent looking (slightly a cute cel but defined face, lean, muscular, 6’2). Enough to get around with girls etc. But I’m doing this for the love of the game tbh. I’ve always strived for greatness in every area of my life: academics, sports, entrepreneurship.
So this is no exception.

Great thanks!
sounds interesting, feel free to dm your plan/pics on insta, would be curious
 

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