MY INSANE TRANSFORMATION AT 18 + PICS

[NFA PB]

not in the slightest, no.
the only diuretic I took was Furosemide.
40 mg for minimal facial changes.
80mg for drastic changes.
120mg for looking starvemaxxed and for longer.

When I took 120 mg I look starvemaxxed for 3 whole days!

120mg for me represents approximately 2mg/kg body weight. Adjust the dosage to your weight.

Good luck!

Wait man I got hella questions

Did you look gaunted/unhealthy while on those pills?

Any blood pressure issues/other issues?

Do they work instantly?

I'll suck your cock man

 

[Deleted member 2268]

Welcome to Pneumo's transformation thread.
See how a virgin mtn became a chadlite club slayer (still virgin tho)
​

I started my looksmaxxing journey around October 2021 as I started working out and eating more, thinking I would become some Sam Dezz mogger in a few months. I was 17.

I joined this Godsend of a forum late December 2021, 2 months into my journey. I took some notes from relevant and botb threads, but at first I didn't really apply them. I was an inconsistent and a lazy piece of shit back then.
The way in which this forum has helped me the most was in identifying my flaws. As you will see, I had a lot of them, yet my family or friends would never point them out. It could have been out of politeness, but I think it's because the average person cannot identify such flaws. One would acknowledge that my face was shit, but would not be able to point out and name what was making me ugly. You can't expect the average bluepiller to know about canthal tilts, facial bloat, or what's wrong with a recessed mandible.

Posting my pictures in December 2021, albeit frauded, in the ratings section has helped me immensely. I'd once again like to thank every one who took the time to leave a rating and/or advice under my post.

Subsequently, I was able to looksmax the right parts of my face efficiently.

Here are, in my opinion, the most important looksmaxxes I have done. I believe they are the main transformations that have lead to my ascension.
They are listed from most to least important, even though they all are.

1. SKINMAXXING
   There are plenty of BOTB threads out there to help you get perfect skin. Just make sure you know if your skin tends to be dry or greasy.
   The main things that have helped me clear my skin are drinking 3L of water per day, benzoyl peroxide to avoid acne outbreaks and La Roche Posay's Effaclar Duo Plus to get rid of acne scars.
   The main things that have helped me with my coloration are the sun (this summer only) and increasing my alpha and beta carrotene intakes. I eat at least 2 large carrots and 1 tomato per day. Be aware that the sun is a deadly laser for your skin. Now that it's getting cold, I apply mattifying SPF cream to my skin. I also apply a small amount of mattifying CC cream on my scars when I have some.
   

   Spoiler: Here is my progress:

   ​
2. CHINMAXXING
   This won't apply to everyone, as we are all different (duh). My chin developped like shit during my puberty, so at 17 I was left with a pathetically small, low-T chin. There's not much I could/can do unfortunately. Bonesmashing would be cope, and on top of that, my jaw was recessed so my subhuman chin makes it harder for me to articulate properly. I can speak perfectly fine, but when I get tired, people tend to have a hard time deciphering what I said.
   What I did and what I am doing though, is simply frauding. I push my jaw forwards 24/7. I have been doing this for months, and I legitimately think my chin has developped (a bit).
   

   Spoiler: See for yourself:

   ​
3. LEANMAXXING
   This should be top 2 for most people. I'm referring to facial leanness, meaning little facial fat and no puffiness/facial bloat. If you're high bf%, you know what to do. I don't want to give you people a target bf% to achieve, as everyone's fat distribution is different and I'm not knowledgeable enough on this topic. Cutting down to low bf% is the first step. The second is much more difficult. You need to get rid of facial bloat. To do so, being in a caloric deficit is not enough. You need to be aware of 3 major things: sodium intake, water intake, and potassium intake.
   Your sodium intake should be as low as humanly possible. If you want to be lean on a daily basis and not just for a special event, keep your sodium intake at around 500mg. If you need to debloat within a day or two, go lower. Reminder: in 1 gram of salt there is 387mg of sodium. You should drink at least 3L of water every day, if you're not doing this already then you're not even trying to looksmax. Your potassium intake should be high, aim for a 4:1 potassium/sodium intake ratio. The higher the better. Eat foods like bananas and avocadoes to increase your potassium intake.
   Also, if you want debloat faster, you need to be consuming diuretics. Diuretics are foods/beverages that help you evacuate water and salts. The diuretic I like the most is caffeine and I try to consume at least 600mg of it per day, which is quite a lot. My main source is MyProtein's Thermopure pills (198mg per 3 pills), but you can also get around 200mg of caffeine from a cappuccino or any other coffee.
   

   Spoiler: Here is how facial debloating has ascended me:

   ​
4. EYEAREAMAXXING
   
   Next, the eye area. Most times it's the first thing people notice about you.
   You must know that hunter eyes is not necessarily the way to go as it could throw off harmony.
   In a lot of cases, notably mine, almond eyes look better. However I was born with round eyes. What I have been doing for the past few months, is pulling the skin around my medial and lateral canthi. I pull it outwards for a few seconds, and it allows me to get almond eyes for a few minutes/hours depending on how hard I pull. I feel like my eyes look more almond-like naturally than they used to a few months ago.
   Please note that this is purely anecdotal, not backed by science, and I don't believe anyone else on this forum does this. Proceed with caution.
   
   Next, make sure your eyebrows are on point. Yes, dark, dense and wide eyebrows are great, but there are more factors that come into consideration.
   The most important one being the tilt. Eyebrow tilt is more important than canthal tilt! If you unluckily have a negative eyebrow tilt like me, do not worry, it's not over.
   As with your eyes, you can pull and push your eyebrows to give them a postive tilt, it works temporarily. Then, you need to relax your frontalis muscle. A lot of people unconsciously tense it, pushing the inner brows upwards. On the other hand, you can also consciously tense your frontalis in a way that gives you a positive eyebrow tilt (pretty much frowning but with without squinting too hard).
   
   Next, solid under-eye support is vital. Try hard-mewing or thumbpulling if you have a recessed maxilla. If you have droopy skin below your eyes, try plumping it up by hydrating it, applying or injecting hyaluronic acid, or applying volufiline (volufiline's effectiveness is debated on this forum).
   Your zygomatic bones also play a role in under-eye support. Try bonesmashing them if you're boneless.
   Squinting is always an option too, just make sure you practice in the mirror before doing it in public, it could be quite disconcerting and give off aspie vibes.
   
   Spoiler: Here is how eyeareamaxxing has changed me:
   
   
   
5. HAIRSTYLEMAXXING
   There are tons of nice haircuts out there. Choose one that fits your aesthetic (e.g. high class, urban, e-boy, etc.). I believe, in all humility, that I have ideal hair. It is straight dense and brown. Dark brown would be better for med dark triad, but that's not really my aesthetic as a youg collagen-ful prettyboy, so it's not too hindering.
   Take care of your hair as you want, their is no one-guide-fits-all. You know your hair better than anyone else.
   My mistake has been choosing an old barber to cut my hair. Dude botched me every time and got rid of all my density. Make sure you change barbers from time to time, you could be surprised.
   My hairstyle now is classic low-fade. Other barber fucked me up with his high fadeless-fades. It can suit many different aesthetics. I style my hair with hair powder, I'd recommend the same for fellow men with straight dense hair.
   
   Spoiler: Here is how my hairstyle has affected my perceived attractiveness:
   
   
   
   
6. TEETHMAXXING
   I will only cover teeth whitening here. If your teeth aren't straight, get braces, I can't help you with that.
   I whitened my teeth by myself and made this legendary thread about it, check it out: https://looksmax.org/threads/how-i-whitened-my-teeth-better-than-a-dentist-pics.534724/
   White teeth is cherry on the cake really, so focus on the other points first. It especially helps with self-confidence.
   
   Spoiler: Here's how whitening my teeth changed my smile:
   
   
   
   
7. SIDEPROFILEMAXXING
   Your side profile is quite important, albeit less important than your front profile.
   Achieving an aesthetic side profile is a combination of many different factors. You should focus on not being recessed (chin, jaw, maxilla), having tight hyoid skin, having an aesthetic nose and masculine supraorbitals (deep-set eyes). Bonesmashing may help with the latter, and hard-mewing with the former. Having good posture at all times is necessary though.
   
   Spoiler: Here is how my side profile changed over the course of my looksmaxxing journey:

There is a lot to looksmaxxing. It is not a simple straightforward process.
People will need more time than others and there's nothing wrong about that.

If I could only give one piece of advice, it'd be to try new things out. I have tried so many creams, moisturisers, diets, etc, have spent so much time and money, but I have only made progress. Even if something failed, I simply learned from it and tried something else. Do not get discouraged if an £80 eye cream you bought doesn't do shit. Look at the ingredients in it, figure out what's missing or what could, and try another cream. Keep trying until you find what's right. Trial and error.

I believe I am chadlite on most days now. However, depending on my skin, diet and facial bloat, that can change from a day to another. Looksmaxxing is a continous process. Nothing is ever achieved forever.

Also, frauding IRL is okay. As long as you can maintain that fraud 24/7, go for it. Don't be ashamed. Whether it's pushing your jaw forwards or modifying your eyebrow tilt.

I am aware that I am exposing myself in this thread. If my new IRL friends saw these old pics (or even this thread jfl) they would bully me lmao. I just want to be genuine, and I hope this motivates you.

Finally, change your mindset before looksmaxxing. Don't expect an end goal, wish for one. Then, do everything you can to achieve it.


Hope this helps.


Pneumo

“Club slayer” with one lay. JFL at this forum

 

[Deleted member 16673]

Wait man I got hella questions

Did you look gaunted/unhealthy while on those pills?

Any blood pressure issues/other issues?

Do they work instantly?

I'll suck your cock man

nah i did not look unhealthy.
My bf% was single digits too. my cheeks were just incredibly hollow, especially since i just had a high-sodium meal (pizza).

No issues at all. I just had a calf cramp at night one time because of the lack of electrolytes. that's it. nothing life threatening.
Got my blood pressure checked 2 days after taking 120mg and it was in the ideal range. (i coincidentally went to the ER because of a cyst on my face, where they checked my blood pressure. Blood pressure was my main concern too when taking furosemide)

Furosemide works within an hour. I pissed 5 times in 30 mins when i took 120mg.
The effects last quite long too, depending on the dosage. A few hours upto a few days, which is incredible.

Just be careful of the rebound effect.

Here is a link to a thread i made on furosemide:

MIRACLE INGREDIENT TO DEBLOAT INSTANTLY!

Furosemide It is a miracle. Today I woke up at 3PM because I had sex with my stacylite girlfriend all night 😒. My face was bloated from all the Jäger-Bombs I drank last night. I’m on a super strict and clean diet, but my girlfriend insisted on ordering pizza. I ate a 1800kcal medium pizza...

looksmax.org

Enjoy!

 

[Wasting_my_life]

Hey man.
I need your urgent help @pneumocystosis .
You mentioned to keep salt below 500 mg, which of course makes sense. But what’s your opinion on carbs? How many carbs a day should you generally eat?
Also, what’s your opinion on 0% sodium salt (e.g. LoSalt)? It has acidity correctors.
Opinions on artificial sweeteners like Aspartame?

 

[Francefag]

u use something to keep your eyebrow so dark, dense and straight ? its amazing how it ascend your eye area

good thread

 

[looksmidder]

Welcome to Pneumo's transformation thread.
See how a virgin mtn became a chadlite club slayer (still virgin tho)
​

I started my looksmaxxing journey around October 2021 as I started working out and eating more, thinking I would become some Sam Dezz mogger in a few months. I was 17.

I joined this Godsend of a forum late December 2021, 2 months into my journey. I took some notes from relevant and botb threads, but at first I didn't really apply them. I was an inconsistent and a lazy piece of shit back then.
The way in which this forum has helped me the most was in identifying my flaws. As you will see, I had a lot of them, yet my family or friends would never point them out. It could have been out of politeness, but I think it's because the average person cannot identify such flaws. One would acknowledge that my face was shit, but would not be able to point out and name what was making me ugly. You can't expect the average bluepiller to know about canthal tilts, facial bloat, or what's wrong with a recessed mandible.

Posting my pictures in December 2021, albeit frauded, in the ratings section has helped me immensely. I'd once again like to thank every one who took the time to leave a rating and/or advice under my post.

Subsequently, I was able to looksmax the right parts of my face efficiently.

Here are, in my opinion, the most important looksmaxxes I have done. I believe they are the main transformations that have lead to my ascension.
They are listed from most to least important, even though they all are.

1. SKINMAXXING
   There are plenty of BOTB threads out there to help you get perfect skin. Just make sure you know if your skin tends to be dry or greasy.
   The main things that have helped me clear my skin are drinking 3L of water per day, benzoyl peroxide to avoid acne outbreaks and La Roche Posay's Effaclar Duo Plus to get rid of acne scars.
   The main things that have helped me with my coloration are the sun (this summer only) and increasing my alpha and beta carrotene intakes. I eat at least 2 large carrots and 1 tomato per day. Be aware that the sun is a deadly laser for your skin. Now that it's getting cold, I apply mattifying SPF cream to my skin. I also apply a small amount of mattifying CC cream on my scars when I have some.
   

   Spoiler: Here is my progress:

   ​
2. CHINMAXXING
   This won't apply to everyone, as we are all different (duh). My chin developped like shit during my puberty, so at 17 I was left with a pathetically small, low-T chin. There's not much I could/can do unfortunately. Bonesmashing would be cope, and on top of that, my jaw was recessed so my subhuman chin makes it harder for me to articulate properly. I can speak perfectly fine, but when I get tired, people tend to have a hard time deciphering what I said.
   What I did and what I am doing though, is simply frauding. I push my jaw forwards 24/7. I have been doing this for months, and I legitimately think my chin has developped (a bit).
   

   Spoiler: See for yourself:

   ​
3. LEANMAXXING
   This should be top 2 for most people. I'm referring to facial leanness, meaning little facial fat and no puffiness/facial bloat. If you're high bf%, you know what to do. I don't want to give you people a target bf% to achieve, as everyone's fat distribution is different and I'm not knowledgeable enough on this topic. Cutting down to low bf% is the first step. The second is much more difficult. You need to get rid of facial bloat. To do so, being in a caloric deficit is not enough. You need to be aware of 3 major things: sodium intake, water intake, and potassium intake.
   Your sodium intake should be as low as humanly possible. If you want to be lean on a daily basis and not just for a special event, keep your sodium intake at around 500mg. If you need to debloat within a day or two, go lower. Reminder: in 1 gram of salt there is 387mg of sodium. You should drink at least 3L of water every day, if you're not doing this already then you're not even trying to looksmax. Your potassium intake should be high, aim for a 4:1 potassium/sodium intake ratio. The higher the better. Eat foods like bananas and avocadoes to increase your potassium intake.
   Also, if you want debloat faster, you need to be consuming diuretics. Diuretics are foods/beverages that help you evacuate water and salts. The diuretic I like the most is caffeine and I try to consume at least 600mg of it per day, which is quite a lot. My main source is MyProtein's Thermopure pills (198mg per 3 pills), but you can also get around 200mg of caffeine from a cappuccino or any other coffee.
   

   Spoiler: Here is how facial debloating has ascended me:

   ​
4. EYEAREAMAXXING
   
   Next, the eye area. Most times it's the first thing people notice about you.
   You must know that hunter eyes is not necessarily the way to go as it could throw off harmony.
   In a lot of cases, notably mine, almond eyes look better. However I was born with round eyes. What I have been doing for the past few months, is pulling the skin around my medial and lateral canthi. I pull it outwards for a few seconds, and it allows me to get almond eyes for a few minutes/hours depending on how hard I pull. I feel like my eyes look more almond-like naturally than they used to a few months ago.
   Please note that this is purely anecdotal, not backed by science, and I don't believe anyone else on this forum does this. Proceed with caution.
   
   Next, make sure your eyebrows are on point. Yes, dark, dense and wide eyebrows are great, but there are more factors that come into consideration.
   The most important one being the tilt. Eyebrow tilt is more important than canthal tilt! If you unluckily have a negative eyebrow tilt like me, do not worry, it's not over.
   As with your eyes, you can pull and push your eyebrows to give them a postive tilt, it works temporarily. Then, you need to relax your frontalis muscle. A lot of people unconsciously tense it, pushing the inner brows upwards. On the other hand, you can also consciously tense your frontalis in a way that gives you a positive eyebrow tilt (pretty much frowning but with without squinting too hard).
   
   Next, solid under-eye support is vital. Try hard-mewing or thumbpulling if you have a recessed maxilla. If you have droopy skin below your eyes, try plumping it up by hydrating it, applying or injecting hyaluronic acid, or applying volufiline (volufiline's effectiveness is debated on this forum).
   Your zygomatic bones also play a role in under-eye support. Try bonesmashing them if you're boneless.
   Squinting is always an option too, just make sure you practice in the mirror before doing it in public, it could be quite disconcerting and give off aspie vibes.
   
   Spoiler: Here is how eyeareamaxxing has changed me:
   
   
   
5. HAIRSTYLEMAXXING
   There are tons of nice haircuts out there. Choose one that fits your aesthetic (e.g. high class, urban, e-boy, etc.). I believe, in all humility, that I have ideal hair. It is straight dense and brown. Dark brown would be better for med dark triad, but that's not really my aesthetic as a youg collagen-ful prettyboy, so it's not too hindering.
   Take care of your hair as you want, their is no one-guide-fits-all. You know your hair better than anyone else.
   My mistake has been choosing an old barber to cut my hair. Dude botched me every time and got rid of all my density. Make sure you change barbers from time to time, you could be surprised.
   My hairstyle now is classic low-fade. Other barber fucked me up with his high fadeless-fades. It can suit many different aesthetics. I style my hair with hair powder, I'd recommend the same for fellow men with straight dense hair.
   
   Spoiler: Here is how my hairstyle has affected my perceived attractiveness:
   
   
   
   
6. TEETHMAXXING
   I will only cover teeth whitening here. If your teeth aren't straight, get braces, I can't help you with that.
   I whitened my teeth by myself and made this legendary thread about it, check it out: https://looksmax.org/threads/how-i-whitened-my-teeth-better-than-a-dentist-pics.534724/
   White teeth is cherry on the cake really, so focus on the other points first. It especially helps with self-confidence.
   
   Spoiler: Here's how whitening my teeth changed my smile:
   
   
   
   
7. SIDEPROFILEMAXXING
   Your side profile is quite important, albeit less important than your front profile.
   Achieving an aesthetic side profile is a combination of many different factors. You should focus on not being recessed (chin, jaw, maxilla), having tight hyoid skin, having an aesthetic nose and masculine supraorbitals (deep-set eyes). Bonesmashing may help with the latter, and hard-mewing with the former. Having good posture at all times is necessary though.
   
   Spoiler: Here is how my side profile changed over the course of my looksmaxxing journey:

There is a lot to looksmaxxing. It is not a simple straightforward process.
People will need more time than others and there's nothing wrong about that.

If I could only give one piece of advice, it'd be to try new things out. I have tried so many creams, moisturisers, diets, etc, have spent so much time and money, but I have only made progress. Even if something failed, I simply learned from it and tried something else. Do not get discouraged if an £80 eye cream you bought doesn't do shit. Look at the ingredients in it, figure out what's missing or what could, and try another cream. Keep trying until you find what's right. Trial and error.

I believe I am chadlite on most days now. However, depending on my skin, diet and facial bloat, that can change from a day to another. Looksmaxxing is a continous process. Nothing is ever achieved forever.

Also, frauding IRL is okay. As long as you can maintain that fraud 24/7, go for it. Don't be ashamed. Whether it's pushing your jaw forwards or modifying your eyebrow tilt.

I am aware that I am exposing myself in this thread. If my new IRL friends saw these old pics (or even this thread jfl) they would bully me lmao. I just want to be genuine, and I hope this motivates you.

Finally, change your mindset before looksmaxxing. Don't expect an end goal, wish for one. Then, do everything you can to achieve it.


Hope this helps.


Pneumo

on of my favourite threads on this forum tbh, what does alpha carotene do? i'm aware of beta carotene but i haven't seen anyone talk about alpha carotene. also, could you explain your method of pulling to get almond eyes in a bit more detail?

 

[looksmidder]

yes, every morning.
diuretic + improves brain function, what more can you want? Caffeine is so underrated!

one more thing, does caffeine not reduce collagen?

nvm about the eye pulling technique, i saw your video on that

 

[looksmidder]

on of my favourite threads on this forum tbh, what does alpha carotene do? i'm aware of beta carotene but i haven't seen anyone talk about alpha carotene. also, could you explain your method of pulling to get almond eyes in a bit more detail?

one more thing, does caffeine not reduce collagen?

nvm about the eye pulling technique, i saw your video on that

bump

 

[Deleted member 16673]

on of my favourite threads on this forum tbh, what does alpha carotene do? i'm aware of beta carotene but i haven't seen anyone talk about alpha carotene.

alpha carrotene isn't as useful for skin tint.
A study says that higher levels of alpha-carotene lowers the risk of age-related wrinkles.
but in reality, beta carrotene mogs.

one more thing, does caffeine not reduce collagen?

you're right. i don't know why i ever said tha tcaffein was good for skin. it isn't.

topical caffeine can:

1. Reduce fat cells
2. Reduce puffy, dark eye circles
3. Reduce the appearance of cellulite

but that's it.
Caffeine completely nukes your collagen. If you're a regular consumer, you'd need collagen supplements.
A study confirmed that HA does not protect the skin from the damage cause by caffeine.
avoid caffeine i guess, unless you taek collagen supplements...

 

[looksmidder]

alpha carrotene isn't as useful for skin tint.
A study says that higher levels of alpha-carotene lowers the risk of age-related wrinkles.
but in reality, beta carrotene mogs.


you're right. i don't know why i ever said tha tcaffein was good for skin. it isn't.

topical caffeine can:

1. Reduce fat cells
2. Reduce puffy, dark eye circles
3. Reduce the appearance of cellulite

but that's it.
Caffeine completely nukes your collagen. If you're a regular consumer, you'd need collagen supplements.
A study confirmed that HA does not protect the skin from the damage cause by caffeine.
avoid caffeine i guess, unless you taek collagen supplements...

damn that's annoying af with caffeine, my dark circles are so bad but i need my collagen too jfl

dyk anything else for dark circles?

also what would a good amount of alpha carotene to take every day? (from supplements or food)

 

[Deleted member 16673]

damn that's annoying af with caffeine, my dark circles are so bad but i need my collagen too jfl

dyk anything else for dark circles?

also what would a good amount of alpha carotene to take every day? (from supplements or food)

you could apply the caffeine topically on your dark circles and your dark circles only. that's what i'd do.
i don't know anything else unfortunately.

i wouldn't take any alpha carrotene supplements. you should get enough from your food, especially if you consume pumpkin, grapefruit, carrots, bell peppers, leafy green, eggs, broccoli, tomato, and tomato products.

 

[MEMPSK]

one more thing, does caffeine not reduce collagen?

nvm about the eye pulling technique, i saw your video on that

Link to video plzzzzz

 

[looksmidder]

Link to video plzzzzz

it's in this thread somewhere, page 2 or 3 iirc

 

[Deleted member 32347]

I push my jaw forwards 24/7.

Were you doing it staticly (pushing it and holding) or doing it like reps (push pull)? Also was it distracting mewing?

 

[2025 chad candidate]

How tall is he?

 

[2025 chad candidate]

Were you doing it staticly (pushing it and holding) or doing it like reps (push pull)? Also was it distracting mewing?

I sent you a message on reddit, check it out or message me here

 

[garyismaxxing]

1. CHINMAXXING
   This won't apply to everyone, as we are all different (duh). My chin developped like shit during my puberty, so at 17 I was left with a pathetically small, low-T chin. There's not much I could/can do unfortunately. Bonesmashing would be cope, and on top of that, my jaw was recessed so my subhuman chin makes it harder for me to articulate properly. I can speak perfectly fine, but when I get tired, people tend to have a hard time deciphering what I said.
   What I did and what I am doing though, is simply frauding. I push my jaw forwards 24/7. I have been doing this for months, and I legitimately think my chin has developped (a bit).
   

   Spoiler: See for yourself:

   
   ​

in the first photo u got nct, how tf u managed to fix that

 

[Tr0ubLe]

I keep coming back to this thread. So much knowledge

 

[Deleted member 25743]

I could follow this diet for a week then binge eat 10000 kcal

 

[EvangelicalRapist]

This inspired me to start looksmaxxing tbh. Less than a year ago my friend sent me ur rad 140 progress and I didn't care about ur body it was ur damn face. I still have no idea how despite having mathematically shit eyes yours just look amazing anyway
Debloating perhaps will be the hardest thing to do, I'm 62 kg 186 cm super low bf % but probably somewhat bloated
One day I will mog you, like a student mogs his teacher

 

[CyberPsychodelic]

Welcome to Pneumo's transformation thread.
See how a virgin mtn became a chadlite club slayer (still virgin tho)
​

I started my looksmaxxing journey around October 2021 as I started working out and eating more, thinking I would become some Sam Dezz mogger in a few months. I was 17.

I joined this Godsend of a forum late December 2021, 2 months into my journey. I took some notes from relevant and botb threads, but at first I didn't really apply them. I was an inconsistent and a lazy piece of shit back then.
The way in which this forum has helped me the most was in identifying my flaws. As you will see, I had a lot of them, yet my family or friends would never point them out. It could have been out of politeness, but I think it's because the average person cannot identify such flaws. One would acknowledge that my face was shit, but would not be able to point out and name what was making me ugly. You can't expect the average bluepiller to know about canthal tilts, facial bloat, or what's wrong with a recessed mandible.

Posting my pictures in December 2021, albeit frauded, in the ratings section has helped me immensely. I'd once again like to thank every one who took the time to leave a rating and/or advice under my post.

Subsequently, I was able to looksmax the right parts of my face efficiently.

Here are, in my opinion, the most important looksmaxxes I have done. I believe they are the main transformations that have lead to my ascension.
They are listed from most to least important, even though they all are.

1. SKINMAXXING
   There are plenty of BOTB threads out there to help you get perfect skin. Just make sure you know if your skin tends to be dry or greasy.
   The main things that have helped me clear my skin are drinking 3L of water per day, benzoyl peroxide to avoid acne outbreaks and La Roche Posay's Effaclar Duo Plus to get rid of acne scars.
   The main things that have helped me with my coloration are the sun (this summer only) and increasing my alpha and beta carrotene intakes. I eat at least 2 large carrots and 1 tomato per day. Be aware that the sun is a deadly laser for your skin. Now that it's getting cold, I apply mattifying SPF cream to my skin. I also apply a small amount of mattifying CC cream on my scars when I have some.
   

   Spoiler: Here is my progress:

   ​
2. CHINMAXXING
   This won't apply to everyone, as we are all different (duh). My chin developped like shit during my puberty, so at 17 I was left with a pathetically small, low-T chin. There's not much I could/can do unfortunately. Bonesmashing would be cope, and on top of that, my jaw was recessed so my subhuman chin makes it harder for me to articulate properly. I can speak perfectly fine, but when I get tired, people tend to have a hard time deciphering what I said.
   What I did and what I am doing though, is simply frauding. I push my jaw forwards 24/7. I have been doing this for months, and I legitimately think my chin has developped (a bit).
   

   Spoiler: See for yourself:

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3. LEANMAXXING
   This should be top 2 for most people. I'm referring to facial leanness, meaning little facial fat and no puffiness/facial bloat. If you're high bf%, you know what to do. I don't want to give you people a target bf% to achieve, as everyone's fat distribution is different and I'm not knowledgeable enough on this topic. Cutting down to low bf% is the first step. The second is much more difficult. You need to get rid of facial bloat. To do so, being in a caloric deficit is not enough. You need to be aware of 3 major things: sodium intake, water intake, and potassium intake.
   Your sodium intake should be as low as humanly possible. If you want to be lean on a daily basis and not just for a special event, keep your sodium intake at around 500mg. If you need to debloat within a day or two, go lower. Reminder: in 1 gram of salt there is 387mg of sodium. You should drink at least 3L of water every day, if you're not doing this already then you're not even trying to looksmax. Your potassium intake should be high, aim for a 4:1 potassium/sodium intake ratio. The higher the better. Eat foods like bananas and avocadoes to increase your potassium intake.
   Also, if you want debloat faster, you need to be consuming diuretics. Diuretics are foods/beverages that help you evacuate water and salts. The diuretic I like the most is caffeine and I try to consume at least 600mg of it per day, which is quite a lot. My main source is MyProtein's Thermopure pills (198mg per 3 pills), but you can also get around 200mg of caffeine from a cappuccino or any other coffee.
   

   Spoiler: Here is how facial debloating has ascended me:

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4. EYEAREAMAXXING
   
   Next, the eye area. Most times it's the first thing people notice about you.
   You must know that hunter eyes is not necessarily the way to go as it could throw off harmony.
   In a lot of cases, notably mine, almond eyes look better. However I was born with round eyes. What I have been doing for the past few months, is pulling the skin around my medial and lateral canthi. I pull it outwards for a few seconds, and it allows me to get almond eyes for a few minutes/hours depending on how hard I pull. I feel like my eyes look more almond-like naturally than they used to a few months ago.
   Please note that this is purely anecdotal, not backed by science, and I don't believe anyone else on this forum does this. Proceed with caution.
   
   Next, make sure your eyebrows are on point. Yes, dark, dense and wide eyebrows are great, but there are more factors that come into consideration.
   The most important one being the tilt. Eyebrow tilt is more important than canthal tilt! If you unluckily have a negative eyebrow tilt like me, do not worry, it's not over.
   As with your eyes, you can pull and push your eyebrows to give them a postive tilt, it works temporarily. Then, you need to relax your frontalis muscle. A lot of people unconsciously tense it, pushing the inner brows upwards. On the other hand, you can also consciously tense your frontalis in a way that gives you a positive eyebrow tilt (pretty much frowning but with without squinting too hard).
   
   Next, solid under-eye support is vital. Try hard-mewing or thumbpulling if you have a recessed maxilla. If you have droopy skin below your eyes, try plumping it up by hydrating it, applying or injecting hyaluronic acid, or applying volufiline (volufiline's effectiveness is debated on this forum).
   Your zygomatic bones also play a role in under-eye support. Try bonesmashing them if you're boneless.
   Squinting is always an option too, just make sure you practice in the mirror before doing it in public, it could be quite disconcerting and give off aspie vibes.
   
   Spoiler: Here is how eyeareamaxxing has changed me:
   
   
   
5. HAIRSTYLEMAXXING
   There are tons of nice haircuts out there. Choose one that fits your aesthetic (e.g. high class, urban, e-boy, etc.). I believe, in all humility, that I have ideal hair. It is straight dense and brown. Dark brown would be better for med dark triad, but that's not really my aesthetic as a youg collagen-ful prettyboy, so it's not too hindering.
   Take care of your hair as you want, their is no one-guide-fits-all. You know your hair better than anyone else.
   My mistake has been choosing an old barber to cut my hair. Dude botched me every time and got rid of all my density. Make sure you change barbers from time to time, you could be surprised.
   My hairstyle now is classic low-fade. Other barber fucked me up with his high fadeless-fades. It can suit many different aesthetics. I style my hair with hair powder, I'd recommend the same for fellow men with straight dense hair.
   
   Spoiler: Here is how my hairstyle has affected my perceived attractiveness:
   
   
   
   
6. TEETHMAXXING
   I will only cover teeth whitening here. If your teeth aren't straight, get braces, I can't help you with that.
   I whitened my teeth by myself and made this legendary thread about it, check it out: https://looksmax.org/threads/how-i-whitened-my-teeth-better-than-a-dentist-pics.534724/
   White teeth is cherry on the cake really, so focus on the other points first. It especially helps with self-confidence.
   
   Spoiler: Here's how whitening my teeth changed my smile:
   
   
   
   
7. SIDEPROFILEMAXXING
   Your side profile is quite important, albeit less important than your front profile.
   Achieving an aesthetic side profile is a combination of many different factors. You should focus on not being recessed (chin, jaw, maxilla), having tight hyoid skin, having an aesthetic nose and masculine supraorbitals (deep-set eyes). Bonesmashing may help with the latter, and hard-mewing with the former. Having good posture at all times is necessary though.
   
   Spoiler: Here is how my side profile changed over the course of my looksmaxxing journey:

There is a lot to looksmaxxing. It is not a simple straightforward process.
People will need more time than others and there's nothing wrong about that.

If I could only give one piece of advice, it'd be to try new things out. I have tried so many creams, moisturisers, diets, etc, have spent so much time and money, but I have only made progress. Even if something failed, I simply learned from it and tried something else. Do not get discouraged if an £80 eye cream you bought doesn't do shit. Look at the ingredients in it, figure out what's missing or what could, and try another cream. Keep trying until you find what's right. Trial and error.

I believe I am chadlite on most days now. However, depending on my skin, diet and facial bloat, that can change from a day to another. Looksmaxxing is a continous process. Nothing is ever achieved forever.

Also, frauding IRL is okay. As long as you can maintain that fraud 24/7, go for it. Don't be ashamed. Whether it's pushing your jaw forwards or modifying your eyebrow tilt.

I am aware that I am exposing myself in this thread. If my new IRL friends saw these old pics (or even this thread jfl) they would bully me lmao. I just want to be genuine, and I hope this motivates you.

Finally, change your mindset before looksmaxxing. Don't expect an end goal, wish for one. Then, do everything you can to achieve it.


Hope this helps.


Pneumo

Fantastic and epic transformation @pneumocystosis

from mtn to chadlite by collagen maxing, tan/color maxing, facial definition maxing, chin maxing, teeth maxing and eyes maxing, and a better hairstyle

 

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This is what I have been saying since forever!

Hey bro off topic im so glad your back can you take a look at my face and give me advice and a reating if possible