My Jaw Surgery Journey (Video and Pictures)

[Gaia262]

I should of added to my post. Initially I did this to be the best version of myself. What was in the mirror was not matching what was on the inside.

But to segway on this , I'm not really interested in normie women.

They weren't there when I was going through all of this so I am not interested in them after all of this. Im not rewarding trash with my efforts. Swiping on phones , dancing like a monkey in clubs for validation. These aren't things that I aspire to excel in.

I want to stay humble and not conceited, so am picking my words carefully. I don't tie my validation down to what normie women think of me.

Anyone who knew me back in 2021 knew I basically exclusively was with escorts most of the time.

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As cringe as this might sound I would rather be with them after everything then become some dancing monkey chasing validation from normie women who are a small fraction of what they are.

Guys I think I need to update this statement, sleeping with escorts is an empty path, they will just pull you into their degeneracy. One wanted to me to work alongside her and do only fans and other dumb nonsense.

I really need to override my old mindset, unfortunately this takes years to do. You don't come off the surgical table with a new mind you are still the same person as before even if you changed physically.

I'm currently working on my investments and then business, I am currently looking into sites for models when I'm done, luckily living in London unlocks all of these networks so meeting them should be easier.

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Regarding future updates I really want to pioneer the next stage of the blackpill for you guys. I have come to realize most of this is genetic. What if we could remove the genes associated with deformities and also select desirable traits for your kids. There will be no need for surgeries.

There is a clinic abroad that will do this, it's known as IVF PGD. As long as you have an elite donor with this (an educated model) you can put an end to generational cycles from the start. This is a future plan of mine.

The cost of this is much lower than surgeries and fixes the problem at its core. However it requires serious commitment and organization to execute.

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Sorry I'm quite solution based, if I say dumb things just dm me and I can amend.

 

[Luis]

Prozzies are only instant gratification, if you want lasting peace & pleasure; you gotta attract top tier lady

Thank you for your update and welcome back Gaia

 

[Gaia262]

I've been doing a lot of thinking .

I'm not sure if I want to support surgeries as the solution for Truecels or sub5s. It's an inefficient concept and what is required from Truecels or genuine sub 5s is too much.

I'm not interested sending young dudes to do this. Seriously what is this, what are we doing ?
@RealSurgerymax

Spoiler: Don't click if sensitive

For Truecels there has to be a better more effective way that causes no harm, no risk and fixes the problem permanently.

Surgeries attempt to fraud/imitate good genetics and development.

It's exactly that a poor imitation of the real problem which is Genetics and early development.

the blackpill community has braced on surgeries as it's impossible to alter genes.

The technology is now available that we can "filter" trash genes from the start and select the best ones. It's called IVF PGD . If you get an elite female egg donor you can put an end to this from the start.

Yes cosmetic traits can be selected for albeit a sensitive topic and limited.

PGD Testable Diseases | The Fertility Institutes

List of PGD Testable Diseases. The Fertility Instititues offers the highest quality PGD programs and services at affordable prices, our centers are located in the Untites States, Mexico and India.

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I got guys that are like 25 , death tier phenos and stats with dog shit tier upbringing/family dming me that jaw surgery will fix their life.

They have missed the most important years of their life. Now they will just spend the final few years sawing their jaws or legs off? The party is over. Everyone's had their fun and pairing off. Thats assuming you don't go crazy or heavily neurotic before even entering the field again which is under stated imo.

Here we can fix the problem at it's root from day one

High genetic value child that will only need surgeries as "fine tuning" (think Megan foxs nose job)
not complete reconstruction like an autist.

An elite upbringing, both with food and socially ect. The blackpill community know exactly what needs to be done (just do the literal opposite of what they had)


Once these are perfected coupled with being in the top percentiles in wealth

The game is complete and won. You successfully completed your biological role aswell in passing down your genes.

Notice how it's all set from day 1 the trajectory. A natural flow not plans and strategies that autists have to devise.

Im not sure how the blackpill community will react to this. It's effectively throwing everything out and replacing it with a simpler concept that actually fixes the problem from day 1.

However you will be living vicariously through your child's success.

 

[Gaia262]

To add to my last message I have been investigating this further.

This really could be the time we eliminate all health conditions, mental conditions and are able to embrace cosmetic enhancements. All at once.

Clinics are able to test single gene genetic disorders to near 100% accuracy. available Cosmetic traits are hitting this figure (92-97% accuracy)

The problem are conditions that are caused by multiple genes. Which can now be screened for their risk factor.

Yes this includes autism , schizophrenia, coronary heart disease , diabetes and alot of other major issues.

Im just working on my investments at the moment, technically I can start this process now but prefer to have things in order before starting. It will take me time. I also need to source an elite female donor.

After once you provide a good environment/upbringing you really have an excellent foundation.

Chads/Stacies were just excellent genes with the right upbringing and things flowed naturally.

Incels/sub 5s were bad genes (physical , mental and/or health) with bad upbringing and things flowed naturally.

The most important years are effectively pre determined/in your parents hands. This is where the anger and confusion stems from.

This is about setting things right from day one.

Ngl I just watched this and was shaken which proves my point.

Spoiler

 

[Gaia262]

Just another update

Credit to @widdi

A Genetics clinic is now offering additional cosmetic services.

The First Company To Publicly Offer Embryo Selection for Height, IQ, Hair Color, and Eye Color is now Live

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Genetic optimization is here.

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Spookily this gets released roughly the same time I mention my observations.

You guys can start to see the problems we are now fixing. This includes physical, mental and cosmetic

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It's really going to be your choice whether you go down the traditional looksmaxxing route of softmaxxing and surgeries and general lifestyle.

Or if you want to go down the genetics path and fix problems at its inception. This is both permanent, pain free and risk free (with a small margin of error). Effectively you are opting out the traditional dating market and getting an elite tier family (which is really the end biological goal)

Technically you can do both (I recommend both strategically) , but I can tell you this is a very difficult journey. You will go insane the further you push and try to max everything. You really need to be stable minded for a family.

I'm working on my investments so won't be posting on here much, I'm on my own in this so if I am successful I will be getting this sorted for you guys. This will take me a long time.

Just remember : elite genes, great upbringing and being in the top percentiles in wealth are the foundations of setting your family life up.

However a caveat is that AI ( Artificial intelligence) is around the corner about to make all of this progressively redundant. all of this is being released at the end of cycle.

 

[Gaia262]

Update

Got a reply from the genetics team also informed Dr Ramieri.

We are at the cusp of screening and preventing every physical health , mental health and cosmetic issue.

We may not be able to get the finer details, but I'm pretty happy with what's currently available if you check my last posts.

 

[Deleted member 110192]

Edit: I decided to keep my thread to help any other sub5s in need of help. I hope that this can light the way or benefit you in some form.

This thread has everything you need to improve yourself surgically, I also linked my hair and body transformation.

If you managed to find this thread you deserve to ascend and remember Never Give Up .

I underwent double jaw surgery, genioplasty, rhinoplasty, custom infraorbital malar implants and custom jaw implants in Italy with Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti.

Introduction- before surgery



Main Video


9:38 for surgery video

I do my best to provide non-frauded/edited before and afters. I want the results to be as accurate as possible for you guys.

Before (2019) and After first phase 1



After phase 2 (Jaw implants)


(I'm also wearing Erborian CC cream in this, thanks @Niklaus Mikaelson (Niko))

My Final Video

Just a note I do stutter a bit there was no script or acting . Also my walk is slightly off it was to help with the slow mo effect.



Surgeons Names:
Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti

Orthodontist:
Dr Alex

Surgeries and movements undertaken:
Lefort 1 - 3.5mm projection 4mm downgraft , clockwise rotation
BSSO - 8mm
Genioplasty - 5mm projection forward 3mm vertical
Rhinoplasty (deviated bulbous nose)
Custom Infraorbital malar implants PEEK
Custom Jaw implants PEEK

Cost

Bimax + Genioplasty €15,000
Rhinoplasty €5,000
Custom infraorbital malar implants in peek €5,000
+
2nd Surgery
Custom Jaw implants in peek €8,000

Total cost: €33,000 (excluding travel, accommodation, braces ect)

Contact details ( Remote consultations available)
Dr Ramieri's email:
info@maxilloroma.it

Dr Ramieri's Instagram

www.instagram.com/dr.maxilloroma/?hl=en​

Dr Marianetti's Instagram

www.instagram.com/titomarianetti/?hl=en

Consult price (online/remote consultations available)
€150

Location
Ortognatica Roma
Via Nomentana, 311, 00198 Roma RM, Italy

Airbnb - £800 for 4 weeks

Airbnb: Holiday Rentals, Cabins, Beach Houses, Unique Homes & Experiences

www.airbnb.co.uk

Orthodontics
Cost approximately £2500 including extractions (wisdom and lower premolars)
Name: Dr Alex
Clinic: ODL Dental London
Website: https://www.odldentalclinic.com/meet-the-team

Scanning centre in the UK
CBCT Scan £180-£220

3Beam | London | CBCT Imaging and Expert Dental Radiology

3Beam delivers exceptional patient care through high-quality imaging and expert radiology reporting to support accurate diagnosis in London

3beam.co.uk

Hair- Note: this hair thread was made in 2019, I learned this can be done much cheaper and better if you buy and learn to fit it yourself directly from a supplier which can be found on Alibaba or even Lord Hair and just have a stylist near you cut it in. Hair System Salons are great if you are new and need guidance.

A Guide: The Solution to Hairloss - For Anyone Who Is Losing their Hair

As people are aware balding/being bald is a detriment to ones looks barring a few key celebrities. I have seen nothing but poor advice being given on this website so though to create a guide to deal with this issue once and for all and would appreciate that it is stickied/pinned for future...

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Body - After results include My Anavar (Steroid) cycle

GUIDE: High Definition Liposculpture - Surgery for Six Pack & Permanent Fat Removal

2024 update - This surgery can be done much cheaper than what I paid, looking back there was no need to pay what I did, I was new to surgery at the time. To confirm the fat has not returned since I had this surgery, so it is indeed permanent and fixing genetic predispositions. Hello...

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If this has helped you, If you can help a member out on this forum in some way that would make me happy. You don't know what someone is going through.

Thank you to @kota for recommending me Dr Ramieri's clinic.

Mirin.

 

[Deusmaximus]

Update

Got a reply from the genetics team also informed Dr Ramieri.

We are at the cusp of screening and preventing every physical health , mental health and cosmetic issue.

We may not be able to get the finer details, but I'm pretty happy with what's currently available if you check my last posts.

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The important question is: are you getting laid? Was the surgery effort worth it?

 

[Gaia262]

The important question is: are you getting laid? Was the surgery effort worth it?

Well I did this primarily to be the best version of myself, the surgery was worth it. I look a lot different now compared. This involves further softmaxxing and anti aging work.

My life is immensely easier now in almost all aspects, but I have made improvements in others areas of my life aswell. Actually got too much time now to think how bad shit was before. Alot of it was easily preventable, the points I made in my last posts highlight this, that's why Im moving into the genetic screening. You really are preventing all of this happening from day 1.

The saying "and ounce of prevention is better then a pound of cure"

I'm not sure if it's appropriate anymore for me to talk about my sex life on here considering my age and the general age of the forum now.

I'm good bro, just working on my investments at the moment on maturity will have enough to roll this out easily, but will take years.

 

[Oatriced]

Edit: I decided to keep my thread to help any other sub5s in need of help. I hope that this can light the way or benefit you in some form.

This thread has everything you need to improve yourself surgically, I also linked my hair and body transformation.

If you managed to find this thread you deserve to ascend and remember Never Give Up .

I underwent double jaw surgery, genioplasty, rhinoplasty, custom infraorbital malar implants and custom jaw implants in Italy with Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti.

Introduction- before surgery



Main Video


9:38 for surgery video

I do my best to provide non-frauded/edited before and afters. I want the results to be as accurate as possible for you guys.

Before (2019) and After first phase 1



After phase 2 (Jaw implants)


(I'm also wearing Erborian CC cream in this, thanks @Niklaus Mikaelson (Niko))

My Final Video

Just a note I do stutter a bit there was no script or acting . Also my walk is slightly off it was to help with the slow mo effect.



Surgeons Names:
Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti

Orthodontist:
Dr Alex

Surgeries and movements undertaken:
Lefort 1 - 3.5mm projection 4mm downgraft , clockwise rotation
BSSO - 8mm
Genioplasty - 5mm projection forward 3mm vertical
Rhinoplasty (deviated bulbous nose)
Custom Infraorbital malar implants PEEK
Custom Jaw implants PEEK

Cost

Bimax + Genioplasty €15,000
Rhinoplasty €5,000
Custom infraorbital malar implants in peek €5,000
+
2nd Surgery
Custom Jaw implants in peek €8,000

Total cost: €33,000 (excluding travel, accommodation, braces ect)

Contact details ( Remote consultations available)
Dr Ramieri's email:
info@maxilloroma.it

Dr Ramieri's Instagram

www.instagram.com/dr.maxilloroma/?hl=en​

Dr Marianetti's Instagram

www.instagram.com/titomarianetti/?hl=en

Consult price (online/remote consultations available)
€150

Location
Ortognatica Roma
Via Nomentana, 311, 00198 Roma RM, Italy

Airbnb - £800 for 4 weeks

Airbnb: Holiday Rentals, Cabins, Beach Houses, Unique Homes & Experiences

www.airbnb.co.uk

Orthodontics
Cost approximately £2500 including extractions (wisdom and lower premolars)
Name: Dr Alex
Clinic: ODL Dental London
Website: https://www.odldentalclinic.com/meet-the-team

Scanning centre in the UK
CBCT Scan £180-£220

3Beam | London | CBCT Imaging and Expert Dental Radiology

3Beam delivers exceptional patient care through high-quality imaging and expert radiology reporting to support accurate diagnosis in London

3beam.co.uk

Hair- Note: this hair thread was made in 2019, I learned this can be done much cheaper and better if you buy and learn to fit it yourself directly from a supplier which can be found on Alibaba or even Lord Hair and just have a stylist near you cut it in. Hair System Salons are great if you are new and need guidance.

A Guide: The Solution to Hairloss - For Anyone Who Is Losing their Hair

As people are aware balding/being bald is a detriment to ones looks barring a few key celebrities. I have seen nothing but poor advice being given on this website so though to create a guide to deal with this issue once and for all and would appreciate that it is stickied/pinned for future...

looksmax.org

Body - After results include My Anavar (Steroid) cycle

GUIDE: High Definition Liposculpture - Surgery for Six Pack & Permanent Fat Removal

2024 update - This surgery can be done much cheaper than what I paid, looking back there was no need to pay what I did, I was new to surgery at the time. To confirm the fat has not returned since I had this surgery, so it is indeed permanent and fixing genetic predispositions. Hello...

looksmax.org

If this has helped you, If you can help a member out on this forum in some way that would make me happy. You don't know what someone is going through.

Thank you to @kota for recommending me Dr Ramieri's clinic.

Very good results but fixing the flaw being Indian is just impossible

 

[Gaia262]

REMINDER DO NOT MENTION ANY COSMETIC GENETIC ENHANCEMENTS TO WOMEN OR EVEN NORMIES.

They will instantly see this as non NT or something is badly wrong with you. spoke to a girl about this and things went to shit. Lesson learned.

You might get away mentioning eye colour but don't push the whole package.

If you have to, only mention "health" related enhancements like heridetary "Cancer screening" " "Diabetes" ect. DO NOT go full autismo and go through the list. I wouldn't even mention the "Mental health" preventions.

Orchid | Whole Genome Embryo Report

Mitigate more risks with the world’s most advanced whole genome screening for embryos. Detect genetic errors linked to severe diseases before pregnancy begins.

www.orchidhealth.com

This is all you should say:

" I have a family history of diabetes and just wanted to make sure my kids don't inherit this " Thats it, don't push any further. This is a solo journey.

Normies and women are the biggest eugenists but have absolutely zero self awareness of their judgments and will just gaslight you it's your personality. They wait at the finish line on your success.

It reminds me of a female orthodontist that cancelled my appointments when she found out it's cosmetic. Dr Alex took over my case in full in response , which is why I made sure he was in my video. Just a note the same female orthodontist took on my case post surgery telling me how great it was , can't make this shit up. Shows it's not even IQ related.

Female orthodontist abandoned my case

Damn bros I have a male orthodontist who is the principal lead and he wanted another orthodontist to assist for my pre surgical orthodontics for my surgery, Most likely to make me feel special like we are a team and im not alone in this. She is italian and she came for one appointment and after...

looksmax.org

 

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

REMINDER DO NOT MENTION ANY COSMETIC GENETIC ENHANCEMENTS TO WOMEN OR EVEN NORMIES.

They will instantly see this as non NT or something is badly wrong with you. spoke to a girl about this and things went to shit. Lesson learned.

You might get away mentioning eye colour but don't push the whole package.

View attachment 3832421

If you have to, only mention "health" related enhancements like heridetary "Cancer screening" " "Diabetes" ect. DO NOT go full autismo and go through the list. I wouldn't even mention the "Mental health" preventions.

Orchid | Whole Genome Embryo Report

Mitigate more risks with the world’s most advanced whole genome screening for embryos. Detect genetic errors linked to severe diseases before pregnancy begins.

www.orchidhealth.com

This is all you should say:

" I have a family history of diabetes and just wanted to make sure my kids don't inherit this " Thats it, don't push any further. This is a solo journey.

Normies and women are the biggest eugenists but have absolutely zero self awareness of their judgments and will just gaslight you it's your personality. They wait at the finish line on your success.

It reminds me of a female orthodontist that cancelled my appointments when she found out it's cosmetic. Dr Alex took over my case in full in response , which is why I made sure he was in my video. Just a note the same female orthodontist took on my case post surgery telling me how great it was , can't make this shit up. Shows it's not even IQ related.

Female orthodontist abandoned my case

Damn bros I have a male orthodontist who is the principal lead and he wanted another orthodontist to assist for my pre surgical orthodontics for my surgery, Most likely to make me feel special like we are a team and im not alone in this. She is italian and she came for one appointment and after...

looksmax.org

The biggest no in the world is taking dating advice from women. Also low fat diets > low carbs. I did carnivore for 2->3 weeks and it made me miserable. 5 pounds of turkey a day.

 

[Lars2]

Hardmaxx King

 

[Devon]

I've been doing a lot of thinking .

I'm not sure if I want to support surgeries as the solution for Truecels or sub5s. It's an inefficient concept and what is required from Truecels or genuine sub 5s is too much.

I'm not interested sending young dudes to do this. Seriously what is this, what are we doing ?
@RealSurgerymax

Spoiler: Don't click if sensitive

For Truecels there has to be a better more effective way that causes no harm, no risk and fixes the problem permanently.

Surgeries attempt to fraud/imitate good genetics and development.

It's exactly that a poor imitation of the real problem which is Genetics and early development.

the blackpill community has braced on surgeries as it's impossible to alter genes.

The technology is now available that we can "filter" trash genes from the start and select the best ones. It's called IVF PGD . If you get an elite female egg donor you can put an end to this from the start.

Yes cosmetic traits can be selected for albeit a sensitive topic and limited.

PGD Testable Diseases | The Fertility Institutes

List of PGD Testable Diseases. The Fertility Instititues offers the highest quality PGD programs and services at affordable prices, our centers are located in the Untites States, Mexico and India.

www.fertility-docs.com

I got guys that are like 25 , death tier phenos and stats with dog shit tier upbringing/family dming me that jaw surgery will fix their life.

They have missed the most important years of their life. Now they will just spend the final few years sawing their jaws or legs off? The party is over. Everyone's had their fun and pairing off. Thats assuming you don't go crazy or heavily neurotic before even entering the field again which is under stated imo.

Here we can fix the problem at it's root from day one

High genetic value child that will only need surgeries as "fine tuning" (think Megan foxs nose job)
not complete reconstruction like an autist.

An elite upbringing, both with food and socially ect. The blackpill community know exactly what needs to be done (just do the literal opposite of what they had)


Once these are perfected coupled with being in the top percentiles in wealth

The game is complete and won. You successfully completed your biological role aswell in passing down your genes.

Notice how it's all set from day 1 the trajectory. A natural flow not plans and strategies that autists have to devise.

Im not sure how the blackpill community will react to this. It's effectively throwing everything out and replacing it with a simpler concept that actually fixes the problem from day 1.

However you will be living vicariously through your child's success.

Looks like ascension

 

[Gaia262]

Just had a moment going through my old my photos realizing how much this has changed me, albeit I have been doing a ton of softmaxxing.

Really need to provide an update after all these years.

2019

2025

Video as I always try to provide honest feedback free from edits/filters. But I do wear mild makeup now.

Spoiler

Regarding the gene selection for embryos this will take a long time, I am just working on a few things first and will look to have this rolled out. The technology is always advancing and will continue to get even better.

I just need to say it's going to be redundant within 10 -20 years max, with AI changing everything soon to be AGI and robots being rolled out. it's for those who simply want to put things right. This will be the last generation that has these issues.

 

[marigold]

Just had a moment going through my old my photos realizing how much this has changed me, albeit I have been doing a ton of softmaxxing.

Really need to provide an update after all these years.

2019

View attachment 4307568

2025
View attachment 4307569

Video as I always try to provide honest feedback free from edits/filters. But I do wear mild makeup now.

Spoiler

Regarding the gene selection for embryos this will take a long time, I am just working on a few things first and will look to have this rolled out. The technology is always advancing and will continue to get even better.

I just need to say it's going to be redundant within 10 -20 years max, with AI changing everything soon to be AGI and robots being rolled out. it's for those who simply want to put things right. This will be the last generation that has these issues.

no offense but you look incredibly gay

if that's the look you're going for then its fine but that hair and styling is not it

 

[Gaia262]

I am now working on softmaxxing guides to ensure you have a fully comprehensive looksmaxxing plan.

I have started off with a hair looksmaxxing guide and will move onto other areas. It's found within the first post.

Let's go

 

[Gaia262]

2025 Evening Skin Care routine is now ready, it can be located on the first post.

Let me know if you don't like the format it's quite down to the point. People might prefer videos / pics ect.

Wil be working on the other guides throughout the week

Step by step

 

[Gaia262]

2025 Morning Skin Care routine plus Natural Makeup guide is now ready, it can be located in the first post.

Most of what I do here is Korean inspired as they are miles ahead in these fields.

I hope the format is ok.

Few more guides left to do

 

[Gaia262]

I will be creating an anti-aging guide in a few months' time; I need to test one more thing out. I only want to give advice if I have personally tested something and know it to be something that is good.

In the interim I have created a miscellaneous advice guide with additional tips that are golden but tough for me to categorize; it can be located within the first post.

 

[Gaia262]

The 2025 lifestyle guide is now available, which can be found within the first post. Just want to state, guys there is no one way how you choose to live, so I have made it fairly brief of key points. I can expand and go more in depth, but it's just setting the foundations.

 

[gunrenaissance]

Edit: I decided to keep my thread to help any other sub5s in need of help. I hope that this can light the way or benefit you in some form.

This thread has everything you need to improve yourself surgically; I also linked my hair and body transformation.

If you managed to find this thread, you deserve to ascend, and remember, never give up.

2025 update: I have added an additional softmaxing guide and will later add a full anti-aging guide. Through trial and error I'm now confident to bring this out.

I want to give you guys a fully comprehensive looksmaxxing guide; let's go.

..............................................................

I underwent double jaw surgery, genioplasty, rhinoplasty, custom infraorbital malar implants, and custom jaw implants in Italy with Dr. Ramieri and Dr. Marianetti.

Introduction—before surgery




Main Video



9:38 for surgery video

I do my best to provide non-fraudulent/edited before and afters. I want the results to be as accurate as possible for you guys.


Before (2019) and after the first phase 1




After phase 2 (jaw implants)



(I'm also wearing Erborian CC cream in this, thanks .) @Niklaus Mikaelson (Niko))

*Also, to add, guys, I was on testosterone for approximately 2 months whilst recovering; my logic was that as my face was resetting, it would set in its ideal grown shape. You can see examples on YouTube of the changes hormones make in FTM or MTF transformations.

My Final Video

Just a note: I do stutter a bit; there was no script or acting. Also, my walk is slightly off; it was to help with the slow-mo effect.



Edit: 2025 Update





Surgeons' Names:

Dr. Ramieri and Dr. Marianetti

Orthodontist:

Dr. Alex

Surgeries and movements undertaken:

Lefort 1 - 3.5mm projection, 4mm downgraft, clockwise rotation

BSSO - 8mm

Genioplasty - 5mm projection forward, 3mm vertical

Rhinoplasty (deviated bulbous nose)

Custom Infraorbital Malar Implants PEEK

Custom Jaw Implants PEEK

Cost (This is what I paid at the time)

Bimax + Genioplasty: €15,000

Rhinoplasty: €5,000

Custom infraorbital malar implants in PEEK €5,000

+

2nd Surgery

Custom jaw implants in PEEK cost €8,000.

Total cost: €33,000 (excluding travel, accommodation, braces, etc.)

Contact details (remote consultations available)

Dr. Ramieri's email:

info@maxilloroma.it

Dr. Ramieri's Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/dr.maxilloroma?igsh=MTk1aXBnamJsbml5MA==

Dr. Marianetti's Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/titomarianetti?igsh=MWN0aXMyeDc2cmZ4ZA==

Consult price (online/remote consultations available)

€150

Location

Ortognatica Roma

Via Nomentana, 311, 00198 Roma RM, Italy

Airbnb—£800 for 4 weeks

(2025 update: this flat is no longer available, but there are affordable alternatives if you search around the area).

Airbnb: Holiday Rentals, Cabins, Beach Houses, Unique Homes & Experiences

www.airbnb.co.uk

Orthodontics

Cost approximately £2500, including extractions (wisdom and lower premolars)

Name: Dr. Alex

Clinic: ODL Dental London

Website:

Dr Alex Seijas

Discover Dr Alex Seijas, expert Dentist at ODL Dental Clinic. Providing high-quality care for every smile. Book your visit today.

www.odldentalclinic.com

Scanning center in the UK

CBCT Scan: £180-£220

3Beam | London | CBCT Imaging and Expert Dental Radiology

3Beam delivers exceptional patient care through high-quality imaging and expert radiology reporting to support accurate diagnosis in London

3beam.co.uk

These are all products I personally use; I don't give you product links to show you I don't earn anything.

Spoiler

View attachment 4400248

Spoiler: 2025 Hair Softmaxxing Guide

The aim is to keep the salon professional blow-dry look throughout the week. Important looksmax.


-Hair to be washed twice a week, always double cleanse using shampoo twice. Leave conditioner in for 20 minutes to fully absorb.


--Find a hairstyle that you like; side parts are usually always a safe option. Under 25s can experiment with trendier styles.


- Blow-dry hair twice a week to maintain a professional look throughout the week. I use the one-step Revlon blow-dry brush in the mid-to-short model. Game changer.


Products:


-Leave-in conditioner to keep hair moisturized; I use IQ Intelligent Haircare. Important to spray daily.


- Blow-dry cream helps with giving the salon blow-dry look that holds. I use IQ blow-dry cream.


-Olaplex No. 6 Bond Smoother helps to keep the style.


-Olaplex No. 7 is not really needed but helps with a healthy sheen.


- Color Wow Xtra large volume bombshell volumizer -- game changer for maximum volume.


-- Color Wow Raise the Root -- Use on the front hairline when blow-drying to give you the lift that lasts, which is important for the overall look. Such an overlooked thing that really amplifies the look.


Apply all the products and blow-dry and style accordingly. It's very easy with the Revlon blow-dry brush; normal blow-drying requires the use of both hands (blow-dryer and brush). This is just one hand, as it's 2-in-1, easier dexterity.


Finish off with a hairspray that has flexibility, like the Sebastian reshaper hairspray.

If done correctly, you will have awesome salon-tier hair, without the costs and from the comfort of your own home.

Please don't disregard this; it makes a big difference.

For those wanting to colour their hair and eyebrows I added this part in my miscellaneous guide.

Spoiler: 2025 Evening Skin Care Guide

A lot of what I do is based on Korean skin care, as they are miles ahead compared to the West. Yes, I use a lot of Erborian products, as they are good.



The first step is to double cleanse; the first stage is an oil-based cleanser, followed by a gel-based cleaner. I use the Erborian face wash set.



After washing, use a fresh makeup towel; you can buy 7 of these to last the week and rewash. Never let a towel that has already been used touch your face. Quick tip: change your pillowcase daily or a few times a week.



The first stage is to apply an anti-aging serum. I personally use Erborian Ginseng Super Serum. The red one.



The 2nd stage is to apply GHK-Cu copper peptide 1% serum across your face.



The 3rd stage is to use an oil night serum. I personally use Erborian Multi-Perfecting Night Serum.



Just applying these, you will see your face is already dewy, glowy, and hydrated.



Stage 4: Apply an eye cream. I use Erborian multi-perfecting eye cream.



Lastly, use a deeply hydrating lip balm to allow your lips to stay moisturized.



Really, that's your evening skin care done.

Spoiler: 2025 Morning Skin Care + Makeup Guide

1a) The first stage is to moisturize; if you are not into anti-aging, any quality moisturizer will do.



1b) If you are starting with Erborian Red Ginseng Anti-Aging Serum, follow it with Erborian Skin Therapy Eye Cream, followed by Erborian Skin Therapy Multi-Perfecting Night Serum.



This will give such a great base for the next stage.



2) (optional) If you are someone who is into lightening your skin, now try a "tone up" cream, a Korean "secret" for how they look so light. I personally use Numbuzin No. 3 Porcelain Tone-Up Beige. This doesn't look fake or ghostly. Other tone-up creams look horrific on darker skin shades, like chalk.



2) Apply sunscreen at the same time; this is for everyone. Please use an 8-hour sunscreen, as you want all-day coverage. Riemann P20 Sensitive Face SPF 50 is excellent.



3) Apply Erborian CC cream. I use the shade Dore, but if you are Caucasian, use Clair, etc. If you do not have sensitive skin, you can use it under your eyes too. If you do, you have to use their CC eye cream in the same matching shade.



4) Eyelash curl: Curl lashes for approximately 5-10 secs. These can be found cheaply on Amazon.



5) Use a tinted lip balm. I personally use Bobbi Brown nude pink lip balm, but there are affordable alternatives. You don't want heavy tinting on your lips.



6) Contouring—if you want a final touch, it is to use a contour pencil, even on the sides of the nose, and blend it in for a slimmer-looking nose. I use Make Up Forever Limitless Brown.

7) Deodorant -- I use a natural deodorant that does work very well , it's called "Fussy" it provides 24 hours protection and can be used for other areas of your body. (Would also laser off hair as well to help)

This is really everything you need for a daily morning skincare and natural makeup look.

Spoiler: 2025 Miscellaneous Softmaxxing Tips

Here are some tips that I can't effectively categorize, but they are good.


Korean scrub (Italy towel) once a week. Stay in the shower for approximately 20 minutes, then scrub your body down as if you are sanding.

Use a body butter morning and evening on your body; shea butter is A-tier. Find one that is scented. I personally use Dr. Shea organic butter in citrus.


Brush and floss teeth twice daily with an electric toothbrush; this includes manually cleaning your tongue. I use something called a Tung brush specifically. Use a natural toothpaste and mouthwash like tea tree oil or clove oil; you want to maintain your mouth microbiome that does the fighting, which chemical toothpastes/mouthwashes wreck. Always see morning breath as you doing something wrong. You can add an interdental brush on top of flossing to really cover more areas.

Shower daily but use an exfoliating glove paired with natural soap (I use faith in nature soap ) two to three times a week to really remove as much dead skin and dirt as possible. I try to avoid harsh chemicals unless necessary, you want to maintain you skin flora/microbiome, that doesn't mean natural products are always effective, it's really finding a balance.


Visit the dentist once a year for checkups/scans and the hygienist twice a year for a deep cleaning of your mouth. It covers areas that toothbrushes can't clean effectively.



Having straight teeth with braces is a solid looksmax; you can use your retainer tray to add whitening gel. You can do this overnight every 15 days whilst you sleep with carbamide peroxide 16% syringes, which can be bulk purchased. I use New Happy Smile UK.



Contouring teeth is also legit and a nice final touch. Remember to wear retainers to maintain.



Manicures and pedicures. Really easy—you can buy a 4-in-1 manicure set. Trim nails normally every 2 weeks, then use the manicure set to file, buff, and polish nails every week. (Buff only once a month). If you use a pumice stone weekly on feet and hands, follow up with a body butter to soothe.



Eyebrow shaping I would go to a salon and have this done; it's pretty cheap and normal for guys to do this, and it makes a difference. I don't recommend doing it at home.



Hair and eyebrow coloring/dyeing—amazing looksmax. If you have black hair, use something called L'Oreal HiColor. I use a shade called soft brown, but you can experiment with other colors. Normal hair dye will not work on black hair, which is why people just don't bother; HiColor will bleach it at the same time.



If you are ethnic and want an ambiguous look, this will be a heavy game changer. Remember to do the eyebrows as well. Pair this with laser hair removal for facial hair and my makeup guide, including the tone-up cream to cover uneven skin. You can take daily liposomal glutathione capsules to help. All of this will effectively reduce ethnic failos and it's very, very cost-effective.



Laser hair removal is great; it will make you look younger and remove the hair before it can go grey. Make you look a lot more professional and refined. If you have ultra-thick hair, then you will have to go to a professional salon. Make sure they use a Candela machine, which is the gold standard.



I also use the Ulike Air 10, which can be used at home and has saved me a lot; it works effectively on thicker male body hair.



Chemical peel on your face once a week; I use the Erborian Skin Hero Peeling. You want to be gentle with your face, not to disrupt the skin barrier, so only mild exfoliation.



Cologne/perfume use before going out: I use Blue de Chanel; this is universally liked.



Heel/shoe lifts will give you a safe 1-inch or 2-inch height boost. Try to wear boots for this.



Purchase 7 makeup towels; every time you wash your face nightly, you use a new towel, which can then be washed. Never let a used towel touch your face.



Change your pillowcase daily for the above same reasons.



Wash clothes and everything on a hot wash 60-degree cycle, even if it's 3 hours. Use a laundry sanitizer in the rinse cycle as well.

Spoiler: 2025 Lifestyle Guide

There is no complete right or wrong answer to this, this is simply how I choose to live life.

It's more like a Monk, utilizing modern technologies.

I can go into a more detailed guide, but I think the below is foundational, which you can expand on in the direction you want to go.


1. Organic and homemade foods — there are more and more sites available that deliver organic farm-grade products directly to your home. You can have this set up on a weekly basis. The funny thing is that it works out cheaper than takeouts. If you have a car, you can also drive to your local farm directly. Learning to cook homemade foods like bread is easy, especially with a no-knead recipe.


2. Filtered water — have a plumber install a water filter on your main sink; there will be a separate tap. I purchased my drinking filter from a site called Wrekin Water. It lasts a whole year.


3. Air purifiers. Try to have multiple air purifiers with HEPA grade filters around your house, especially in your bedroom.


4. Nature walks come with countless benefits. Try to avoid things like treadmills ect these are all synthetic. Tons of benefits from being in real nature. Try 4 times a week, from running to walking.


5. One meal a day — if you can handle it, try to get into a routine of eating once a day or even twice a day. This comes with countless benefits. Try to have fish oil and a shot of diluted apple cider vinegar before your meals. Always eat carbs/desserts after your main meal. There is an order in which you eat.


6. Weekly detox — have a bucket of disinfection solution to soak all our bathroom items such as toothbrushes and anything that can be contaminated to be disinfected. Also, to wipe your room down as well. To also wash all clothing in a 60-degree sanitizing wash with a laundry sanitizer on the rinse cycle.


7. When waking up in the morning, listen to calm music and take time to think/ meditate on where you want to be in life and the steps needed to get there. Follow your intuition and passions that emerge even though it might feel obscure. It will lead you to where you need to go. It could be a random YouTube video that shows up with all the answers you need. Don't want to get too spiritual, let's keep it focused.

8. Yoga/Stretches—You should have a daily stretching routine going through motions to remain flexible and prevent injury. If you can follow up with some body exercises (calisthenics) to give some resistance, this will keep you in shape without taxing your body long-term. I always wanted to pick up Qigong but if you are not into "energy" and all that it's ok.



9. Try to get 8 hours sleep. This is critical. Shower daily, prioritize self-improvement daily in all categories in life, from simple hygiene habits to looksmaxxing to health. Try to live the life that the person you want to be would live and watch it slowly align over the years.

Hair loss—Note: this hair thread was made in 2019. I learned this can be done much cheaper and better if you buy and learn to fit it yourself directly from a supplier, which can be found on Alibaba or even Lord Hair, and just have a stylist near you cut it in. Hair system salons are great if you are new and need guidance, but they are middlemen that upcharge, so go straight to the supplier/factory.​

If you have a receding hairline, a hairline transplant with the hair system just behind it effectively gives you 100% undetectable coverage of baldness. I will be adding this when it's needed.

A Guide: The Solution to Hairloss - For Anyone Who Is Losing their Hair

As people are aware balding/being bald is a detriment to ones looks barring a few key celebrities. I have seen nothing but poor advice being given on this website so though to create a guide to deal with this issue once and for all and would appreciate that it is stickied/pinned for future...

looksmax.org

Body - After results include My Anavar (steroid) cycle

GUIDE: High Definition Liposculpture - Surgery for Six Pack & Permanent Fat Removal

2024 update - This surgery can be done much cheaper than what I paid, looking back there was no need to pay what I did, I was new to surgery at the time. To confirm the fat has not returned since I had this surgery, so it is indeed permanent and fixing genetic predispositions. Hello...

looksmax.org

If this has helped you, if you can help a member out on this forum in some way, that would make me happy. You don't know what someone is going through.

Thank you to @kota for recommending me Dr. Ramieri's clinic.

This is amazing man keep doing what you're doing you're a god

 

[maorosqrt]

Edit: I decided to keep my thread to help any other sub5s in need of help. I hope that this can light the way or benefit you in some form.

This thread has everything you need to improve yourself surgically; I also linked my hair and body transformation.

If you managed to find this thread, you deserve to ascend, and remember, never give up.

2025 update: I have added an additional softmaxing guide and will later add a full anti-aging guide. Through trial and error I'm now confident to bring this out.

I want to give you guys a fully comprehensive looksmaxxing guide; let's go.

..............................................................

I underwent double jaw surgery, genioplasty, rhinoplasty, custom infraorbital malar implants, and custom jaw implants in Italy with Dr. Ramieri and Dr. Marianetti.

Introduction—before surgery




Main Video



9:38 for surgery video

I do my best to provide non-fraudulent/edited before and afters. I want the results to be as accurate as possible for you guys.


Before (2019) and after the first phase 1




After phase 2 (jaw implants)



(I'm also wearing Erborian CC cream in this, thanks .) @Niklaus Mikaelson (Niko))

*Also, to add, guys, I was on testosterone for approximately 2 months whilst recovering; my logic was that as my face was resetting, it would set in its ideal grown shape. You can see examples on YouTube of the changes hormones make in FTM or MTF transformations.

My Final Video

Just a note: I do stutter a bit; there was no script or acting. Also, my walk is slightly off; it was to help with the slow-mo effect.



Edit: 2025 Update





Surgeons' Names:

Dr. Ramieri and Dr. Marianetti

Orthodontist:

Dr. Alex

Surgeries and movements undertaken:

Lefort 1 - 3.5mm projection, 4mm downgraft, clockwise rotation

BSSO - 8mm

Genioplasty - 5mm projection forward, 3mm vertical

Rhinoplasty (deviated bulbous nose)

Custom Infraorbital Malar Implants PEEK

Custom Jaw Implants PEEK

Cost (This is what I paid at the time)

Bimax + Genioplasty: €15,000

Rhinoplasty: €5,000

Custom infraorbital malar implants in PEEK €5,000

+

2nd Surgery

Custom jaw implants in PEEK cost €8,000.

Total cost: €33,000 (excluding travel, accommodation, braces, etc.)

Contact details (remote consultations available)

Dr. Ramieri's email:

info@maxilloroma.it

Dr. Ramieri's Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/dr.maxilloroma?igsh=MTk1aXBnamJsbml5MA==

Dr. Marianetti's Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/titomarianetti?igsh=MWN0aXMyeDc2cmZ4ZA==

Consult price (online/remote consultations available)

€150

Location

Ortognatica Roma

Via Nomentana, 311, 00198 Roma RM, Italy

Airbnb—£800 for 4 weeks

(2025 update: this flat is no longer available, but there are affordable alternatives if you search around the area).

Airbnb: Holiday Rentals, Cabins, Beach Houses, Unique Homes & Experiences

www.airbnb.co.uk

Orthodontics

Cost approximately £2500, including extractions (wisdom and lower premolars)

Name: Dr. Alex

Clinic: ODL Dental London

Website:

Dr Alex Seijas

Discover Dr Alex Seijas, expert Dentist at ODL Dental Clinic. Providing high-quality care for every smile. Book your visit today.

www.odldentalclinic.com

Scanning center in the UK

CBCT Scan: £180-£220

3Beam | London | CBCT Imaging and Expert Dental Radiology

3Beam delivers exceptional patient care through high-quality imaging and expert radiology reporting to support accurate diagnosis in London

3beam.co.uk

These are all products I personally use; I don't give you product links to show you I don't earn anything.

Spoiler

View attachment 4400248

Spoiler: 2025 Hair Softmaxxing Guide

The aim is to keep the salon professional blow-dry look throughout the week. Important looksmax.


-Hair to be washed twice a week, always double cleanse using shampoo twice. Leave conditioner in for 20 minutes to fully absorb.


--Find a hairstyle that you like; side parts are usually always a safe option. Under 25s can experiment with trendier styles.


- Blow-dry hair twice a week to maintain a professional look throughout the week. I use the one-step Revlon blow-dry brush in the mid-to-short model. Game changer.


Products:


-Leave-in conditioner to keep hair moisturized; I use IQ Intelligent Haircare. Important to spray daily.


- Blow-dry cream helps with giving the salon blow-dry look that holds. I use IQ blow-dry cream.


-Olaplex No. 6 Bond Smoother helps to keep the style.


-Olaplex No. 7 is not really needed but helps with a healthy sheen.


- Color Wow Xtra large volume bombshell volumizer -- game changer for maximum volume.


-- Color Wow Raise the Root -- Use on the front hairline when blow-drying to give you the lift that lasts, which is important for the overall look. Such an overlooked thing that really amplifies the look.


Apply all the products and blow-dry and style accordingly. It's very easy with the Revlon blow-dry brush; normal blow-drying requires the use of both hands (blow-dryer and brush). This is just one hand, as it's 2-in-1, easier dexterity.


Finish off with a hairspray that has flexibility, like the Sebastian reshaper hairspray.

If done correctly, you will have awesome salon-tier hair, without the costs and from the comfort of your own home.

Please don't disregard this; it makes a big difference.

For those wanting to colour their hair and eyebrows I added this part in my miscellaneous guide.

Spoiler: 2025 Evening Skin Care Guide

A lot of what I do is based on Korean skin care, as they are miles ahead compared to the West. Yes, I use a lot of Erborian products, as they are good.



The first step is to double cleanse; the first stage is an oil-based cleanser, followed by a gel-based cleaner. I use the Erborian face wash set.



After washing, use a fresh makeup towel; you can buy 7 of these to last the week and rewash. Never let a towel that has already been used touch your face. Quick tip: change your pillowcase daily or a few times a week.



The first stage is to apply an anti-aging serum. I personally use Erborian Ginseng Super Serum. The red one.



The 2nd stage is to apply GHK-Cu copper peptide 1% serum across your face.



The 3rd stage is to use an oil night serum. I personally use Erborian Multi-Perfecting Night Serum.



Just applying these, you will see your face is already dewy, glowy, and hydrated.



Stage 4: Apply an eye cream. I use Erborian multi-perfecting eye cream.



Lastly, use a deeply hydrating lip balm to allow your lips to stay moisturized.



Really, that's your evening skin care done.

Spoiler: 2025 Morning Skin Care + Makeup Guide

1a) The first stage is to moisturize; if you are not into anti-aging, any quality moisturizer will do.



1b) If you are starting with Erborian Red Ginseng Anti-Aging Serum, follow it with Erborian Skin Therapy Eye Cream, followed by Erborian Skin Therapy Multi-Perfecting Night Serum.



This will give such a great base for the next stage.



2) (optional) If you are someone who is into lightening your skin, now try a "tone up" cream, a Korean "secret" for how they look so light. I personally use Numbuzin No. 3 Porcelain Tone-Up Beige. This doesn't look fake or ghostly. Other tone-up creams look horrific on darker skin shades, like chalk.



2) Apply sunscreen at the same time; this is for everyone. Please use an 8-hour sunscreen, as you want all-day coverage. Riemann P20 Sensitive Face SPF 50 is excellent.



3) Apply Erborian CC cream. I use the shade Dore, but if you are Caucasian, use Clair, etc. If you do not have sensitive skin, you can use it under your eyes too. If you do, you have to use their CC eye cream in the same matching shade.



4) Eyelash curl: Curl lashes for approximately 5-10 secs. These can be found cheaply on Amazon.



5) Use a tinted lip balm. I personally use Bobbi Brown nude pink lip balm, but there are affordable alternatives. You don't want heavy tinting on your lips.



6) Contouring—if you want a final touch, it is to use a contour pencil, even on the sides of the nose, and blend it in for a slimmer-looking nose. I use Make Up Forever Limitless Brown.

7) Deodorant -- I use a natural deodorant that does work very well , it's called "Fussy" it provides 24 hours protection and can be used for other areas of your body. (Would also laser off hair as well to help)

This is really everything you need for a daily morning skincare and natural makeup look.

Spoiler: 2025 Miscellaneous Softmaxxing Tips

Here are some tips that I can't effectively categorize, but they are good.


Korean scrub (Italy towel) once a week. Stay in the shower for approximately 20 minutes, then scrub your body down as if you are sanding.

Use a body butter morning and evening on your body; shea butter is A-tier. Find one that is scented. I personally use Dr. Shea organic butter in citrus.


Brush and floss teeth twice daily with an electric toothbrush; this includes manually cleaning your tongue. I use something called a Tung brush specifically. Use a natural toothpaste and mouthwash like tea tree oil or clove oil; you want to maintain your mouth microbiome that does the fighting, which chemical toothpastes/mouthwashes wreck. Always see morning breath as you doing something wrong. You can add an interdental brush on top of flossing to really cover more areas.

Shower daily but use an exfoliating glove paired with natural soap (I use faith in nature soap ) two to three times a week to really remove as much dead skin and dirt as possible. I try to avoid harsh chemicals unless necessary, you want to maintain you skin flora/microbiome, that doesn't mean natural products are always effective, it's really finding a balance.


Visit the dentist once a year for checkups/scans and the hygienist twice a year for a deep cleaning of your mouth. It covers areas that toothbrushes can't clean effectively.



Having straight teeth with braces is a solid looksmax; you can use your retainer tray to add whitening gel. You can do this overnight every 15 days whilst you sleep with carbamide peroxide 16% syringes, which can be bulk purchased. I use New Happy Smile UK.



Contouring teeth is also legit and a nice final touch. Remember to wear retainers to maintain.



Manicures and pedicures. Really easy—you can buy a 4-in-1 manicure set. Trim nails normally every 2 weeks, then use the manicure set to file, buff, and polish nails every week. (Buff only once a month). If you use a pumice stone weekly on feet and hands, follow up with a body butter to soothe.



Eyebrow shaping I would go to a salon and have this done; it's pretty cheap and normal for guys to do this, and it makes a difference. I don't recommend doing it at home.



Hair and eyebrow coloring/dyeing—amazing looksmax. If you have black hair, use something called L'Oreal HiColor. I use a shade called soft brown, but you can experiment with other colors. Normal hair dye will not work on black hair, which is why people just don't bother; HiColor will bleach it at the same time.



If you are ethnic and want an ambiguous look, this will be a heavy game changer. Remember to do the eyebrows as well. Pair this with laser hair removal for facial hair and my makeup guide, including the tone-up cream to cover uneven skin. You can take daily liposomal glutathione capsules to help. All of this will effectively reduce ethnic failos and it's very, very cost-effective.



Laser hair removal is great; it will make you look younger and remove the hair before it can go grey. Make you look a lot more professional and refined. If you have ultra-thick hair, then you will have to go to a professional salon. Make sure they use a Candela machine, which is the gold standard.



I also use the Ulike Air 10, which can be used at home and has saved me a lot; it works effectively on thicker male body hair.



Chemical peel on your face once a week; I use the Erborian Skin Hero Peeling. You want to be gentle with your face, not to disrupt the skin barrier, so only mild exfoliation.



Cologne/perfume use before going out: I use Blue de Chanel; this is universally liked.



Heel/shoe lifts will give you a safe 1-inch or 2-inch height boost. Try to wear boots for this.



Purchase 7 makeup towels; every time you wash your face nightly, you use a new towel, which can then be washed. Never let a used towel touch your face.



Change your pillowcase daily for the above same reasons.



Wash clothes and everything on a hot wash 60-degree cycle, even if it's 3 hours. Use a laundry sanitizer in the rinse cycle as well.

Spoiler: 2025 Lifestyle Guide

There is no complete right or wrong answer to this, this is simply how I choose to live life.

It's more like a Monk, utilizing modern technologies.

I can go into a more detailed guide, but I think the below is foundational, which you can expand on in the direction you want to go.


1. Organic and homemade foods — there are more and more sites available that deliver organic farm-grade products directly to your home. You can have this set up on a weekly basis. The funny thing is that it works out cheaper than takeouts. If you have a car, you can also drive to your local farm directly. Learning to cook homemade foods like bread is easy, especially with a no-knead recipe.


2. Filtered water — have a plumber install a water filter on your main sink; there will be a separate tap. I purchased my drinking filter from a site called Wrekin Water. It lasts a whole year.


3. Air purifiers. Try to have multiple air purifiers with HEPA grade filters around your house, especially in your bedroom.


4. Nature walks come with countless benefits. Try to avoid things like treadmills ect these are all synthetic. Tons of benefits from being in real nature. Try 4 times a week, from running to walking.


5. One meal a day — if you can handle it, try to get into a routine of eating once a day or even twice a day. This comes with countless benefits. Try to have fish oil and a shot of diluted apple cider vinegar before your meals. Always eat carbs/desserts after your main meal. There is an order in which you eat.


6. Weekly detox — have a bucket of disinfection solution to soak all our bathroom items such as toothbrushes and anything that can be contaminated to be disinfected. Also, to wipe your room down as well. To also wash all clothing in a 60-degree sanitizing wash with a laundry sanitizer on the rinse cycle.


7. When waking up in the morning, listen to calm music and take time to think/ meditate on where you want to be in life and the steps needed to get there. Follow your intuition and passions that emerge even though it might feel obscure. It will lead you to where you need to go. It could be a random YouTube video that shows up with all the answers you need. Don't want to get too spiritual, let's keep it focused.

8. Yoga/Stretches—You should have a daily stretching routine going through motions to remain flexible and prevent injury. If you can follow up with some body exercises (calisthenics) to give some resistance, this will keep you in shape without taxing your body long-term. I always wanted to pick up Qigong but if you are not into "energy" and all that it's ok.



9. Try to get 8 hours sleep. This is critical. Shower daily, prioritize self-improvement daily in all categories in life, from simple hygiene habits to looksmaxxing to health. Try to live the life that the person you want to be would live and watch it slowly align over the years.

Hair loss—Note: this hair thread was made in 2019. I learned this can be done much cheaper and better if you buy and learn to fit it yourself directly from a supplier, which can be found on Alibaba or even Lord Hair, and just have a stylist near you cut it in. Hair system salons are great if you are new and need guidance, but they are middlemen that upcharge, so go straight to the supplier/factory.​

If you have a receding hairline, a hairline transplant with the hair system just behind it effectively gives you 100% undetectable coverage of baldness. I will be adding this when it's needed.

A Guide: The Solution to Hairloss - For Anyone Who Is Losing their Hair

As people are aware balding/being bald is a detriment to ones looks barring a few key celebrities. I have seen nothing but poor advice being given on this website so though to create a guide to deal with this issue once and for all and would appreciate that it is stickied/pinned for future...

looksmax.org

Body - After results include My Anavar (steroid) cycle

GUIDE: High Definition Liposculpture - Surgery for Six Pack & Permanent Fat Removal

2024 update - This surgery can be done much cheaper than what I paid, looking back there was no need to pay what I did, I was new to surgery at the time. To confirm the fat has not returned since I had this surgery, so it is indeed permanent and fixing genetic predispositions. Hello...

looksmax.org

If this has helped you, if you can help a member out on this forum in some way, that would make me happy. You don't know what someone is going through.

Thank you to @kota for recommending me Dr. Ramieri's clinic.

the only thing i want to know, is your life better now ? how do ppl treat you ?

 

[Gaia262]

the only thing i want to know, is your life better now ? how do ppl treat you ?

Hi bro, it's significantly better. I want to remain humble, but it's really a video game with levels, which is an easy way to see it.

I've been working on other areas, not just looks, and urge anyone to see looksmaxxing as just one aspect in the overall journey.

Not sure if I should say this, but I don't even look fully Indian anymore. I discussed it with AI and included it in my updated softmaxxing guides. Normies can't pinpoint me anymore and have to take time to think it over. Just trying to keep it transparent and honest.

 

[Gaia262]

Guides that are pending:

- Anti-aging/longevity (need to try out one more thing before I'm confident to roll this out)

-- Peptides/Supplements (covering all areas such as mental health, skin/collagen, longevity, gut health, etc.)

-- Fashion (if you guys want this)

Let me know if you want me to have videos alongside to explain or if the current format is ok.

These guides in total effectively cover everything; I can expand on them even more, but I'm worried it will become too bloated.

 

[Gaia262]

I've been reading some of the comments you make about me but just want to clarify a few points.

The people i admire the most

Is people who do risky surgeries and also share their results. Those are my fav users by a mile. They are the gold nuggets in the lookmaxxing nugget box. These are the users that inspire and makes hopecels even more hopeful. I love these people, my favs so far are @lordmadmess @Gaia262 @sayian...

looksmax.org

I spent a lot of time studying East Asian beauty standards (Korean, etc.) for my softmaxxing guides, so my look and the products I use are inspired by them. Some people are finding it overly feminine in photos/videos, but I can assure you in real life, just walking down the street, it's not an issue.

I find this to be the trend that beauty standards are moving to and try to only provide updated advice.

I can also pass as ethnically ambiguous in real life, which I should have clarified in my last post, which is enough to remove any major looks ceilings/stereotypes, etc. I'm happy in this position, not being tied to anything, as I find racism to be tribalistic and primitive. For people who are hard capped, my guides also cover this. My thread is for all sub-5s regardless of background.

All my posts are written by me, and for my video updates that I do I always try to take honest videos and photos, only using my camera on my phone and using no filters. I'm not interested in providing fraudulent results.

 

[Foreverbrad]

I’m curious, is there anything you’d have done differently looking back, or if services like those RSM is offering now existed at the time, or if you knew how insanely bad hypergamy would get in the coming years?

Gene editing your kids is a nice idea in theory. But even having the finances to raise kids now is becoming an insurmountable challenge.

 

[Gaia262]

I’m curious, is there anything you’d have done differently looking back, or if services like those RSM is offering now existed at the time, or if you knew how insanely bad hypergamy would get in the coming years?

Gene editing your kids is a nice idea in theory. But even having the finances to raise kids now is becoming an insurmountable challenge.

Yeah, I always knew hypergamy would get worse and gave an estimation of 5 years, which is approaching.

Those that got in early ascended and left the forum. Alot of things are happening in dms, people are not posting publically.

You really only had to look at Japanese or S. Korean culture to see where we are headed.

I'm so glad I got into escorts bypassing all of this, which is why I don't have the hatred.

Spoiler

MODS WE NEED TO ARCHIVE THIS SITE ASAP

Why would we get taken down? Terorism or doxxing or threats (but potential terorism mostly)

looksmax.org

Maybe it's a good thing most people are bluepilled

Used to want to blackpill people but it can be bad if alot of people go the looksmaxxing route. The more bluepilled men out there = the less competition there is for looksmaxxers. Bluepilled + redpilled dudes will cope with "muh personality and money" and will rarely self improve their looks so...

looksmax.org

If the black pill was more societal than society would be a hell of a lot more frugal and they would stop wasting it on useless copes.

Think about it if the society was black pilled a lot more people would be getting cosmetic surgery and since surgery is expensive as fuck like super expensive people would be a hell of a lot more frugal. and with enough people wanting something the price of a commodity cheapens especially if it...

looksmax.org

Bimax/jaw/orthognathic going mainstream

This big plastic surgery page posting results of bimax Jaw surgery will be the next nose job in 5 more years maybe sooner Mark my words You guys got 5 years to ascend Before average Joe ascends to Chadlite/Chad In 10 years it will truly be 95/5 or 97/3 rule I hate to say it @Chinacurry...

looksmax.org

I wouldn't have done anything major differently; the plan I have has a great risk-to-reward ratio. I got nothing against RSM; he has been a long-standing member on here far longer than me. He goes back as far as the lookism site, but I don't see the benefits of modified LeFort 3 or orbital box osteotomies for the vast majority of people here; it really belongs in the niche.

It's not about being edgy; it's about being effective and doing it safely.


I totally agree with the gene selection for your kids part; in theory it's amazing and effectively fixes the problem of sub-5s at its root.

It's amazing, but it comes with a ton of implementation problems, too many to list here.


Not only that, but it really is the last generation that will have to face these specific issues, with AI and AGI robots coming and targeted to be available to all. Not only In real life life but in games ect also Neuralink, etc. I'm pretty sure the incel pandemic was created to roll these out and for them to be adopted. The elites really are geniuses.


It's only been like a year or two, and it's already at this level.

Spoiler

If you want to put things right in this phase, I'm bringing the answers, but don't worry, in the next decade or two it's coming to an end and the next generation will find these current problems laughable.

 

[Foreverbrad]

Yeah, I always knew hypergamy would get worse and gave an estimation of 5 years, which is approaching.

Those that got in early ascended and left the forum. Alot of things are happening in dms, people are not posting publically.

You really only had to look at Japanese or S. Korean culture to see where we are headed.

I believe it will take a decade more to build out the surgery infrastructure (training) needed for every normie to be having surgery. These skills are not quickly learned, a maxfac takes like 15 years to become qualified. In the near term we are just likely to see an extreme demand shock and surgeons will either be overbooked five years out or will raise their prices to keep the demand in check so bimax will be six figures. Either way, we would not immediately be able to transition into the situation of SK, that’s a long way off.

I'm so glad I got into escorts bypassing all of this, which is why I don't have the hatred.

I just can’t do it - I’ve tried. The emptiness inside me needs to be filled with real validation not just the motions of sex. I wish it were otherwise and at this point I’m not sure it can be filled at all. The scars of the past are too deep.

I wouldn't have done anything major differently; the plan I have has a great risk-to-reward ratio. I got nothing against RSM; he has been a long-standing member on here far longer than me. He goes back as far as the lookism site, but I don't see the benefits of modified LeFort 3 or orbital box osteotomies for the vast majority of people here; it really belongs in the niche.

It's not about being edgy; it's about being effective and doing it safely.

That’s true, I’ve realised about myself that part of the reason I’d consider Lefort2 is to have clout on .org which is pathetic really. You have to be very rational about this and remember why you’re doing it and not lose sight of the forest for the trees!

I totally agree with the gene selection for your kids part; in theory it's amazing and effectively fixes the problem of sub-5s at its root.

It's amazing, but it comes with a ton of implementation problems, too many to list here.

Not only that, but it really is the last generation that will have to face these specific issues, with AI and AGI robots coming and targeted to be available to all. Not only In real life life but in games ect also Neuralink, etc. I'm pretty sure the incel pandemic was created to roll these out and for them to be adopted. The elites really are geniuses.

It's only been like a year or two, and it's already at this level.

If you want to put things right in this phase, I'm bringing the answers, but don't worry, in the next decade or two it's coming to an end and the next generation will find these current problems laughable.

I’m more hoping for immortality of some kind to come about rather than trying to invest in a genetically edited bloodline. If I am having genetically edited children it essentially also removes the relevance of my age toward having genetically fit children therefore I might as well just wait another thirty years and focus on accumulating money to the point where raising a child would not be a significant financial burden.

 

[Gaia262]

I’m more hoping for immortality of some kind to come about rather than trying to invest in a genetically edited bloodline. If I am having genetically edited children it essentially also removes the relevance of my age toward having genetically fit children therefore I might as well just wait another thirty years and focus on accumulating money to the point where raising a child would not be a significant financial burden.

Yeah we can go down the immortality rabbit hole discussing things like Yamanaka factors which I am researching.

I can propose solutions it's really on you where you are in life which path you want to go down.

Embryonic gene selection
Advanced Longevity
Wealth accumulation.
Surgical and advanced looksmaxxing

All have their place in levelling you up using the latest technology.

I just can’t do it - I’ve tried. The emptiness inside me needs to be filled with real validation not just the motions of sex. I wish it were otherwise and at this point I’m not sure it can be filled at all. The scars of the past are too deep.

Completely understand, escorts should really be used as a safety net.

It's such an injustice what is happening to young dudes , well all age groups really at this point.

All by design as well , the elites just got smarter with eugenics. Inceldom which they created is just passive eugenics. The fact they cut all emotional support for men shows what they want men to do to themselves.

I wish people acted sooner (just a screenshot I saved from someone's post)

I believe it will take a decade more to build out the surgery infrastructure (training) needed for every normie to be having surgery. These skills are not quickly learned, a maxfac takes like 15 years to become qualified. In the near term we are just likely to see an extreme demand shock and surgeons will either be overbooked five years out or will raise their prices to keep the demand in check so bimax will be six figures. Either way, we would not immediately be able to transition into the situation of SK, that’s a long way off.

The bar will just get higher and higher eventually you get the problem "lying flat" or "let it rot" or socially "hikikomori" where people just stop caring . It's a growing problem in the East.

 

[Foreverbrad]

Yeah we can go down the immortality rabbit hole discussing things like Yamanaka factors which I am researching.

I can propose solutions it's really on you where you are in life which path you want to go down.

Embryonic gene selection
Advanced Longevity
Wealth accumulation.
Surgical and advanced looksmaxxing

All have their place in levelling you up using the latest technology

All of the above, sounds good to me, in reversed order each helps the next.

Completely understand, escorts should really be used as a safety net.

It's such an injustice what is happening to young dudes , well all age groups really at this point.

All by design as well , the elites just got smarter with eugenics. Inceldom which they created is just passive eugenics. The fact they cut all emotional support for men shows what they want men to do to themselves.

I wish people acted sooner (just a screenshot I saved from someone's post)

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It’s likely just a means to the end of depopulation without being too drastic. The elites are dysgenic themselves and I am not sure if eugenics is their priority. There are more than enough stacies for the billionaires without needing to create a breeding program,

The bar will just get higher and higher eventually you get the problem "lying flat" or "let it rot" or socially "hikikomori" where people just stop caring . It's a growing problem in the East.

From what I’ve heard the “lying flat” thing is more due to socioeconomic hopelessness in China than inceldom, they still have a very patriarchal culture although the two things (wealth and SMV) are inextricably linked in a patriarchal society of course.