My Jaw Surgery Journey (Video and Pictures)

[Gaia262]

I should of added to my post. Initially I did this to be the best version of myself. What was in the mirror was not matching what was on the inside.

But to segway on this , I'm not really interested in normie women.

They weren't there when I was going through all of this so I am not interested in them after all of this. Im not rewarding trash with my efforts. Swiping on phones , dancing like a monkey in clubs for validation. These aren't things that I aspire to excel in.

I want to stay humble and not conceited, so am picking my words carefully. I don't tie my validation down to what normie women think of me.

Anyone who knew me back in 2021 knew I basically exclusively was with escorts most of the time.

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As cringe as this might sound I would rather be with them after everything then become some dancing monkey chasing validation from normie women who are a small fraction of what they are.

Guys I think I need to update this statement, sleeping with escorts is an empty path, they will just pull you into their degeneracy. One wanted to me to work alongside her and do only fans and other dumb nonsense.

I really need to override my old mindset, unfortunately this takes years to do. You don't come off the surgical table with a new mind you are still the same person as before even if you changed physically.

I'm currently working on my investments and then business, I am currently looking into sites for models when I'm done, luckily living in London unlocks all of these networks so meeting them should be easier.

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Regarding future updates I really want to pioneer the next stage of the blackpill for you guys. I have come to realize most of this is genetic. What if we could remove the genes associated with deformities and also select desirable traits for your kids. There will be no need for surgeries.

There is a clinic abroad that will do this, it's known as IVF PGD. As long as you have an elite donor with this (an educated model) you can put an end to generational cycles from the start. This is a future plan of mine.

The cost of this is much lower than surgeries and fixes the problem at its core. However it requires serious commitment and organization to execute.

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Sorry I'm quite solution based, if I say dumb things just dm me and I can amend.

 

[Luis]

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Thank you for your update and welcome back Gaia

 

[Gaia262]

I've been doing a lot of thinking .

I'm not sure if I want to support surgeries as the solution for Truecels or sub5s. It's an inefficient concept and what is required from Truecels or genuine sub 5s is too much.

I'm not interested sending young dudes to do this. Seriously what is this, what are we doing ?
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For Truecels there has to be a better more effective way that causes no harm, no risk and fixes the problem permanently.

Surgeries attempt to fraud/imitate good genetics and development.

It's exactly that a poor imitation of the real problem which is Genetics and early development.

the blackpill community has braced on surgeries as it's impossible to alter genes.

The technology is now available that we can "filter" trash genes from the start and select the best ones. It's called IVF PGD . If you get an elite female egg donor you can put an end to this from the start.

Yes cosmetic traits can be selected for albeit a sensitive topic and limited.

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I got guys that are like 25 , death tier phenos and stats with dog shit tier upbringing/family dming me that jaw surgery will fix their life.

They have missed the most important years of their life. Now they will just spend the final few years sawing their jaws or legs off? The party is over. Everyone's had their fun and pairing off. Thats assuming you don't go crazy or heavily neurotic before even entering the field again which is under stated imo.

Here we can fix the problem at it's root from day one

High genetic value child that will only need surgeries as "fine tuning" (think Megan foxs nose job)
not complete reconstruction like an autist.

An elite upbringing, both with food and socially ect. The blackpill community know exactly what needs to be done (just do the literal opposite of what they had)


Once these are perfected coupled with being in the top percentiles in wealth

The game is complete and won. You successfully completed your biological role aswell in passing down your genes.

Notice how it's all set from day 1 the trajectory. A natural flow not plans and strategies that autists have to devise.

Im not sure how the blackpill community will react to this. It's effectively throwing everything out and replacing it with a simpler concept that actually fixes the problem from day 1.

However you will be living vicariously through your child's success.

 

[Gaia262]

To add to my last message I have been investigating this further.

This really could be the time we eliminate all health conditions, mental conditions and are able to embrace cosmetic enhancements. All at once.

Clinics are able to test single gene genetic disorders to near 100% accuracy. available Cosmetic traits are hitting this figure (92-97% accuracy)

The problem are conditions that are caused by multiple genes. Which can now be screened for their risk factor.

Yes this includes autism , schizophrenia, coronary heart disease , diabetes and alot of other major issues.

Im just working on my investments at the moment, technically I can start this process now but prefer to have things in order before starting. It will take me time. I also need to source an elite female donor.

After once you provide a good environment/upbringing you really have an excellent foundation.

Chads/Stacies were just excellent genes with the right upbringing and things flowed naturally.

Incels/sub 5s were bad genes (physical , mental and/or health) with bad upbringing and things flowed naturally.

The most important years are effectively pre determined/in your parents hands. This is where the anger and confusion stems from.

This is about setting things right from day one.

Ngl I just watched this and was shaken which proves my point.

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[Gaia262]

Just another update

Credit to @widdi

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Spookily this gets released roughly the same time I mention my observations.

You guys can start to see the problems we are now fixing. This includes physical, mental and cosmetic

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It's really going to be your choice whether you go down the traditional looksmaxxing route of softmaxxing and surgeries and general lifestyle.

Or if you want to go down the genetics path and fix problems at its inception. This is both permanent, pain free and risk free (with a small margin of error). Effectively you are opting out the traditional dating market and getting an elite tier family (which is really the end biological goal)

Technically you can do both (I recommend both strategically) , but I can tell you this is a very difficult journey. You will go insane the further you push and try to max everything. You really need to be stable minded for a family.

I'm working on my investments so won't be posting on here much, I'm on my own in this so if I am successful I will be getting this sorted for you guys. This will take me a long time.

Just remember : elite genes, great upbringing and being in the top percentiles in wealth are the foundations of setting your family life up.

However a caveat is that AI ( Artificial intelligence) is around the corner about to make all of this progressively redundant. all of this is being released at the end of cycle.

 

[Gaia262]

Update

Got a reply from the genetics team also informed Dr Ramieri.

We are at the cusp of screening and preventing every physical health , mental health and cosmetic issue.

We may not be able to get the finer details, but I'm pretty happy with what's currently available if you check my last posts.

 

[copercel123]

Edit: I decided to keep my thread to help any other sub5s in need of help. I hope that this can light the way or benefit you in some form.

This thread has everything you need to improve yourself surgically, I also linked my hair and body transformation.

If you managed to find this thread you deserve to ascend and remember Never Give Up .

I underwent double jaw surgery, genioplasty, rhinoplasty, custom infraorbital malar implants and custom jaw implants in Italy with Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti.

Introduction- before surgery



Main Video


9:38 for surgery video

I do my best to provide non-frauded/edited before and afters. I want the results to be as accurate as possible for you guys.

Before (2019) and After first phase 1



After phase 2 (Jaw implants)


(I'm also wearing Erborian CC cream in this, thanks @Niklaus Mikaelson (Niko))

My Final Video

Just a note I do stutter a bit there was no script or acting . Also my walk is slightly off it was to help with the slow mo effect.



Surgeons Names:
Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti

Orthodontist:
Dr Alex

Surgeries and movements undertaken:
Lefort 1 - 3.5mm projection 4mm downgraft , clockwise rotation
BSSO - 8mm
Genioplasty - 5mm projection forward 3mm vertical
Rhinoplasty (deviated bulbous nose)
Custom Infraorbital malar implants PEEK
Custom Jaw implants PEEK

Cost

Bimax + Genioplasty €15,000
Rhinoplasty €5,000
Custom infraorbital malar implants in peek €5,000
+
2nd Surgery
Custom Jaw implants in peek €8,000

Total cost: €33,000 (excluding travel, accommodation, braces ect)

Contact details ( Remote consultations available)
Dr Ramieri's email:
info@maxilloroma.it

Dr Ramieri's Instagram

www.instagram.com/dr.maxilloroma/?hl=en​

Dr Marianetti's Instagram

www.instagram.com/titomarianetti/?hl=en

Consult price (online/remote consultations available)
€150

Location
Ortognatica Roma
Via Nomentana, 311, 00198 Roma RM, Italy

Airbnb - £800 for 4 weeks

https://www.airbnb.co.uk/rooms/28004416?viralityEntryPoint=1&s=76

Orthodontics
Cost approximately £2500 including extractions (wisdom and lower premolars)
Name: Dr Alex
Clinic: ODL Dental London
Website: https://www.odldentalclinic.com/meet-the-team

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If this has helped you, If you can help a member out on this forum in some way that would make me happy. You don't know what someone is going through.

Thank you to @kota for recommending me Dr Ramieri's clinic.

Mirin.

 

[Deusmaximus]

Update

Got a reply from the genetics team also informed Dr Ramieri.

We are at the cusp of screening and preventing every physical health , mental health and cosmetic issue.

We may not be able to get the finer details, but I'm pretty happy with what's currently available if you check my last posts.

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The important question is: are you getting laid? Was the surgery effort worth it?

 

[Gaia262]

The important question is: are you getting laid? Was the surgery effort worth it?

Well I did this primarily to be the best version of myself, the surgery was worth it. I look a lot different now compared. This involves further softmaxxing and anti aging work.

My life is immensely easier now in almost all aspects, but I have made improvements in others areas of my life aswell. Actually got too much time now to think how bad shit was before. Alot of it was easily preventable, the points I made in my last posts highlight this, that's why Im moving into the genetic screening. You really are preventing all of this happening from day 1.

The saying "and ounce of prevention is better then a pound of cure"

I'm not sure if it's appropriate anymore for me to talk about my sex life on here considering my age and the general age of the forum now.

I'm good bro, just working on my investments at the moment on maturity will have enough to roll this out easily, but will take years.

 

[Oatriced]

Edit: I decided to keep my thread to help any other sub5s in need of help. I hope that this can light the way or benefit you in some form.

This thread has everything you need to improve yourself surgically, I also linked my hair and body transformation.

If you managed to find this thread you deserve to ascend and remember Never Give Up .

I underwent double jaw surgery, genioplasty, rhinoplasty, custom infraorbital malar implants and custom jaw implants in Italy with Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti.

Introduction- before surgery



Main Video


9:38 for surgery video

I do my best to provide non-frauded/edited before and afters. I want the results to be as accurate as possible for you guys.

Before (2019) and After first phase 1



After phase 2 (Jaw implants)


(I'm also wearing Erborian CC cream in this, thanks @Niklaus Mikaelson (Niko))

My Final Video

Just a note I do stutter a bit there was no script or acting . Also my walk is slightly off it was to help with the slow mo effect.



Surgeons Names:
Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti

Orthodontist:
Dr Alex

Surgeries and movements undertaken:
Lefort 1 - 3.5mm projection 4mm downgraft , clockwise rotation
BSSO - 8mm
Genioplasty - 5mm projection forward 3mm vertical
Rhinoplasty (deviated bulbous nose)
Custom Infraorbital malar implants PEEK
Custom Jaw implants PEEK

Cost

Bimax + Genioplasty €15,000
Rhinoplasty €5,000
Custom infraorbital malar implants in peek €5,000
+
2nd Surgery
Custom Jaw implants in peek €8,000

Total cost: €33,000 (excluding travel, accommodation, braces ect)

Contact details ( Remote consultations available)
Dr Ramieri's email:
info@maxilloroma.it

Dr Ramieri's Instagram

www.instagram.com/dr.maxilloroma/?hl=en​

Dr Marianetti's Instagram

www.instagram.com/titomarianetti/?hl=en

Consult price (online/remote consultations available)
€150

Location
Ortognatica Roma
Via Nomentana, 311, 00198 Roma RM, Italy

Airbnb - £800 for 4 weeks

https://www.airbnb.co.uk/rooms/28004416?viralityEntryPoint=1&s=76

Orthodontics
Cost approximately £2500 including extractions (wisdom and lower premolars)
Name: Dr Alex
Clinic: ODL Dental London
Website: https://www.odldentalclinic.com/meet-the-team

Scanning centre in the UK
CBCT Scan £180-£220

3Beam | Cutting-edge medical imaging | London

Delivering exceptional patient care through high-quality imaging and expert radiology reporting to support accurate diagnosis and better clinical outcomes. Register to refer SAME-DAY CBCT scans Independent CBCT imaging and radiology reporting centre based in London, focused on providing...

3beam.co.uk

Hair- Note: this hair thread was made in 2019, I learned this can be done much cheaper and better if you buy and learn to fit it yourself directly from a supplier which can be found on Alibaba or even Lord Hair and just have a stylist near you cut it in. Hair System Salons are great if you are new and need guidance.

A Guide: The Solution to Hairloss - For Anyone Who Is Losing their Hair

As people are aware balding/being bald is a detriment to ones looks barring a few key celebrities. I have seen nothing but poor advice being given on this website so though to create a guide to deal with this issue once and for all and would appreciate that it is stickied/pinned for future...

looksmax.org

Body - After results include My Anavar (Steroid) cycle

GUIDE: High Definition Liposculpture - Surgery for Six Pack & Permanent Fat Removal

2024 update - This surgery can be done much cheaper than what I paid, looking back there was no need to pay what I did, I was new to surgery at the time. To confirm the fat has not returned since I had this surgery, so it is indeed permanent and fixing genetic predispositions. Hello...

looksmax.org

If this has helped you, If you can help a member out on this forum in some way that would make me happy. You don't know what someone is going through.

Thank you to @kota for recommending me Dr Ramieri's clinic.

Very good results but fixing the flaw being Indian is just impossible

 

[Gaia262]

REMINDER DO NOT MENTION ANY COSMETIC GENETIC ENHANCEMENTS TO WOMEN OR EVEN NORMIES.

They will instantly see this as non NT or something is badly wrong with you. spoke to a girl about this and things went to shit. Lesson learned.

You might get away mentioning eye colour but don't push the whole package.

If you have to, only mention "health" related enhancements like heridetary "Cancer screening" " "Diabetes" ect. DO NOT go full autismo and go through the list. I wouldn't even mention the "Mental health" preventions.

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This is all you should say:

" I have a family history of diabetes and just wanted to make sure my kids don't inherit this " Thats it, don't push any further. This is a solo journey.

Normies and women are the biggest eugenists but have absolutely zero self awareness of their judgments and will just gaslight you it's your personality. They wait at the finish line on your success.

It reminds me of a female orthodontist that cancelled my appointments when she found out it's cosmetic. Dr Alex took over my case in full in response , which is why I made sure he was in my video. Just a note the same female orthodontist took on my case post surgery telling me how great it was , can't make this shit up. Shows it's not even IQ related.

Female orthodontist abandoned my case

Damn bros I have a male orthodontist who is the principal lead and he wanted another orthodontist to assist for my pre surgical orthodontics for my surgery, Most likely to make me feel special like we are a team and im not alone in this. She is italian and she came for one appointment and after...

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