My Jaw Surgery Journey (Video and Pictures)

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Edit: I decided to keep my thread to help any other sub5s in need of help. I hope that this can light the way or benefit you in some form.

This thread has everything you need to improve yourself surgically, I also linked my hair and body transformation.

If you managed to find this thread you deserve to ascend and remember Never Give Up .

I underwent double jaw surgery, genioplasty, rhinoplasty, custom infraorbital malar implants and custom jaw implants in Italy with Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti.

Introduction- before surgery



Main Video



9:38 for surgery video

I do my best to provide non-frauded/edited before and afters. I want the results to be as accurate as possible for you guys.

Before (2019) and After first phase 1



After phase 2 (Jaw implants)


(I'm also wearing Erborian CC cream in this, thanks @Niklaus Mikaelson (Niko))

My Final Video

Just a note I do stutter a bit there was no script or acting :). Also my walk is slightly off it was to help with the slow mo effect.



Surgeons Names:
Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti

Orthodontist:
Dr Alex

Surgeries and movements undertaken:
Lefort 1 - 3.5mm projection 4mm downgraft , clockwise rotation
BSSO - 8mm
Genioplasty - 5mm projection forward 3mm vertical
Rhinoplasty (deviated bulbous nose)
Custom Infraorbital malar implants PEEK
Custom Jaw implants PEEK

Cost

Bimax + Genioplasty €15,000
Rhinoplasty €5,000
Custom infraorbital malar implants in peek €5,000
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2nd Surgery
Custom Jaw implants in peek €8,000

Total cost: €33,000 (excluding travel, accommodation, braces ect)

Contact details ( Remote consultations available)
Dr Ramieri's email:
info@maxilloroma.it

Dr Ramieri's Instagram

www.instagram.com/dr.maxilloroma/?hl=en


Dr Marianetti's Instagram

www.instagram.com/titomarianetti/?hl=en

Consult price (online/remote consultations available)
€150

Location
Ortognatica Roma
Via Nomentana, 311, 00198 Roma RM, Italy

Airbnb - £800 for 4 weeks

Orthodontics
Cost approximately £2500 including extractions (wisdom and lower premolars)
Name: Dr Alex
Clinic: ODL Dental London
Website: https://www.odldentalclinic.com/meet-the-team

Scanning centre in the UK
CBCT Scan £180-£220

Hair- Note: this hair thread was made in 2019, I learned this can be done much cheaper and better if you buy and learn to fit it yourself directly from a supplier which can be found on Alibaba or even Lord Hair and just have a stylist near you cut it in. Hair System Salons are great if you are new and need guidance.

Body - After results include My Anavar (Steroid) cycle

If this has helped you, If you can help a member out on this forum in some way that would make me happy. You don't know what someone is going through.

Thank you to @kota for recommending me Dr Ramieri's clinic.
 
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I recently underwent double jaw surgery, genioplasty, rhinoplasty and custom infraorbital malar implants in Italy with Dr Ramieri and Dr Marienetti.

I decided to document my experience to help you guys out as much as possible.

Surgeons Names:
Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti

Surgeries and movements undertaken: Lefort 1 - 3.5mm projection 4mm downgraft , clockwise rotation
BSSO - 8mm
Genioplasty - 5mm projection forward 3mm vertical
Rhinoplasty (deviated bulbous nose)
Custom Infraorbital malar implants PEEK

Cost
Total cost: €25,000 (excluding travel, accommodation, braces ect)

Bimax + Genio €15,000
Rhinoplasty €5,000
Custom infraorbital malar implants in peek €5,000

Contact details
Dr Ramieri
info@maxilloroma.it

Consult price
€150

Location
Ortognatica Roma
Via Nomentana, 311, 00198 Roma RM, Italy

Airbnb - £800

Orthodontics

Cost approximately £2500 including extractions
Name: Dr Alex
Clinic: ODL Dental London
Website: https://www.odldentalclinic.com/meet-the-team

This is a draft video, i still need to add more footage (my orthodontist, the consultation, pictures after swelling has been reduced) the resolution is very low I have the HD copies on standby for the final version.






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@Lorsss @Alexanderr @Gargantuan


Hope this helps you guys in some way. I learned everything from this forum so i want to give back.

King :love:

have a lot of respect for everything you have done for yourself brother. I know it must have been a long and difficult struggle and want to let you know that we greatly appreciate your contribution here :heart:
 
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Based bullet points, thanks for not wasting my time.
 
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good stuffass (y)
 
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soon will be me, will try to do a video too
 
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As always with bimax... let me guess, side profile improved but frontal there is no difference. Am i correct? If yes, now you need to get implants as a next step.
 
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Mirin'
Francisco lachowski brazilian model
 
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I cringed so hard seeing your gums and shit

Ffs man I want to get jaw surgery but it's so scary fuck
 
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why that implant sound somehow cheap since you said that its custom and PEEK? Have you gotten any discounts or it isnt as completely custom as you think?
 
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I recently underwent double jaw surgery, genioplasty, rhinoplasty and custom infraorbital malar implants in Italy with Dr Ramieri and Dr Marienetti.

I decided to document my experience to help you guys out as much as possible.



Surgeons Names:
Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti

Surgeries and movements undertaken: Lefort 1 - 3.5mm projection 4mm downgraft , clockwise rotation
BSSO - 8mm
Genioplasty - 5mm projection forward 3mm vertical
Rhinoplasty (deviated bulbous nose)
Custom Infraorbital malar implants PEEK

Cost
Total cost: €25,000 (excluding travel, accommodation, braces ect)

Bimax + Genio €15,000
Rhinoplasty €5,000
Custom infraorbital malar implants in peek €5,000

Contact details
Dr Ramieri
info@maxilloroma.it

Consult price
€150

Location
Ortognatica Roma
Via Nomentana, 311, 00198 Roma RM, Italy

Airbnb - £800

Orthodontics

Cost approximately £2500 including extractions
Name: Dr Alex
Clinic: ODL Dental London
Website: https://www.odldentalclinic.com/meet-the-team

This is a draft video, i still need to add more footage (my orthodontist, the consultation, pictures after swelling has been reduced) the resolution is very low I have the HD copies on standby for the final version.


Mods Please can this thread be open to future edits

@Lorsss @Alexanderr @Gargantuan


Hope this helps you guys in some way. I learned everything from this forum so i want to give back.

Look at your fucking cheekbones you absolute mogger. Excellent vid man thank you
 
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Thx for making this thread and reporting back. U dropped this king 👑
 
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@reptiles @SixCRY @LooksOverAll

I would have pushed more movement 6mm on the maxilla and 12 mm jaw and 10 mm chin although risks increase but still worth the risk to look better NGL other than that it was really good alfaro is the person i would reccomend the most but he's so fucking expensive he does the largest movements of any doc barring gunson raffani is gonna be dead soon lets be honest.
 
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I cringed so hard seeing your gums and shit

Ffs man I want to get jaw surgery but it's so scary fuck
Listen to “no ez way out” from rocky bro and you gonna get the motivation required. Cuz there is no easy way out and live only once. It’s the one shot you got
 
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I recently underwent double jaw surgery, genioplasty, rhinoplasty and custom infraorbital malar implants in Italy with Dr Ramieri and Dr Marienetti.

I decided to document my experience to help you guys out as much as possible.



Surgeons Names:
Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti

Surgeries and movements undertaken: Lefort 1 - 3.5mm projection 4mm downgraft , clockwise rotation
BSSO - 8mm
Genioplasty - 5mm projection forward 3mm vertical
Rhinoplasty (deviated bulbous nose)
Custom Infraorbital malar implants PEEK

Cost
Total cost: €25,000 (excluding travel, accommodation, braces ect)

Bimax + Genio €15,000
Rhinoplasty €5,000
Custom infraorbital malar implants in peek €5,000

Contact details
Dr Ramieri
info@maxilloroma.it

Consult price
€150

Location
Ortognatica Roma
Via Nomentana, 311, 00198 Roma RM, Italy

Airbnb - £800

Orthodontics

Cost approximately £2500 including extractions
Name: Dr Alex
Clinic: ODL Dental London
Website: https://www.odldentalclinic.com/meet-the-team

This is a draft video, i still need to add more footage (my orthodontist, the consultation, pictures after swelling has been reduced) the resolution is very low I have the HD copies on standby for the final version.


Mods Please can this thread be open to future edits

@Lorsss @Alexanderr @Gargantuan


Hope this helps you guys in some way. I learned everything from this forum so i want to give back.

I thank you so much sir. Will you stay on this Forum now you’ve achieved your goal to keep answer questions or will you enjoy your life and move on ? I will probably have a lot to ask in the next months ngl
 
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I cringed so hard seeing your gums and shit

Ffs man I want to get jaw surgery but it's so scary fuck

What's scary about it they get a pietzo device cut bone done place in titanium plates what's scary about that process ?
 
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What's scary about it they get a pietzo device cut bone done place in titanium plates what's scary about that process ?
I don't know I hate seeing anything surgery related but ESPECIALLY just the mouth region is so scary

I guess I'll be under anesthesia and it'll be a doctor working on me and when I wake up I'll be fine so I guess it's not so bad
 
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I thank you so much sir. Will you stay on this Forum now you’ve achieved your goal to keep answer questions or will you enjoy your life and move on ? I will probably have a lot to ask in the next months ngl
The only way to leave this forum is by achieving chad or chadlite level. Otherwise you will be invisible to attractive girls and waste your life here, even with 5 surgeries under your belt.
 
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Bump
 
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mirin bro u did everything i want in 1 fking surgery:lul:

obviously we need a before after of your front but I guess it could take months to swell down.

also you got similar movements as me. did you had an overbite before you pushing back the teeth with braces?
 
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I recently underwent double jaw surgery, genioplasty, rhinoplasty and custom infraorbital malar implants in Italy with Dr Ramieri and Dr Marienetti.

I decided to document my experience to help you guys out as much as possible.



Surgeons Names:
Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti

Surgeries and movements undertaken: Lefort 1 - 3.5mm projection 4mm downgraft , clockwise rotation
BSSO - 8mm
Genioplasty - 5mm projection forward 3mm vertical
Rhinoplasty (deviated bulbous nose)
Custom Infraorbital malar implants PEEK

Cost
Total cost: €25,000 (excluding travel, accommodation, braces ect)

Bimax + Genio €15,000
Rhinoplasty €5,000
Custom infraorbital malar implants in peek €5,000

Contact details
Dr Ramieri
info@maxilloroma.it

Consult price
€150

Location
Ortognatica Roma
Via Nomentana, 311, 00198 Roma RM, Italy

Airbnb - £800

Orthodontics

Cost approximately £2500 including extractions
Name: Dr Alex
Clinic: ODL Dental London
Website: https://www.odldentalclinic.com/meet-the-team

This is a draft video, i still need to add more footage (my orthodontist, the consultation, pictures after swelling has been reduced) the resolution is very low I have the HD copies on standby for the final version.


Mods Please can this thread be open to future edits

@Lorsss @Alexanderr @Gargantuan


Hope this helps you guys in some way. I learned everything from this forum so i want to give back.

have a speedy recovery op (y);)
 
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No bimax for ur gay voice

Jk bro❤️, I'm going to watch the video now.
 
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Thanks mate, you're a looksmaxing inspiration bhai, I'll try to be as detailed as you with my surgeries, expect for the video I'm too high inhib for that :Comfy:

The fact that Ramieri does peek implants and I personally saw some 3d models with screws on on this table (meaning the guy wanted implants after bimax) makes me think Ramieri could actually do both my osteotomy and implants, and I don't need to travel to USA (even if he sounded very conservative about it)
 
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As always with bimax... let me guess, side profile improved but frontal there is no difference. Am i correct? If yes, now you need to get implants as a next step.
That's what concern me.
They really cant do anything for the front?
 
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I recently underwent double jaw surgery, genioplasty, rhinoplasty and custom infraorbital malar implants in Italy with Dr Ramieri and Dr Marienetti.

I decided to document my experience to help you guys out as much as possible.



Surgeons Names:
Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti

Surgeries and movements undertaken: Lefort 1 - 3.5mm projection 4mm downgraft , clockwise rotation
BSSO - 8mm
Genioplasty - 5mm projection forward 3mm vertical
Rhinoplasty (deviated bulbous nose)
Custom Infraorbital malar implants PEEK

Cost
Total cost: €25,000 (excluding travel, accommodation, braces ect)

Bimax + Genio €15,000
Rhinoplasty €5,000
Custom infraorbital malar implants in peek €5,000

Contact details
Dr Ramieri
info@maxilloroma.it

Consult price
€150

Location
Ortognatica Roma
Via Nomentana, 311, 00198 Roma RM, Italy

Airbnb - £800

Orthodontics

Cost approximately £2500 including extractions
Name: Dr Alex
Clinic: ODL Dental London
Website: https://www.odldentalclinic.com/meet-the-team

This is a draft video, i still need to add more footage (my orthodontist, the consultation, pictures after swelling has been reduced) the resolution is very low I have the HD copies on standby for the final version.


Mods Please can this thread be open to future edits

@Lorsss @Alexanderr @Gargantuan


Hope this helps you guys in some way. I learned everything from this forum so i want to give back.

mirin ur dedication bro, you look good in motion than photos
 
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That's what concern me.
They really cant do anything for the front?
jaw widening, giving more chin height, making the mandibular body wider with chin wing, making the chin wider, changing all the ways that all light gets in ur face etc
 
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rate transformation @subhuman incel
 
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Is there a reason why you choose infra without zygo projections? you just wanted to fix your undereyesupport?
 
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congrats

pls post pics after swelling has gone down too
 
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Mirin looksmax dedication, nice stuff
 
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Great documenting

Was i already said PM we can already see the improvement even tho ur swollen as fuck cuz ur 1-2w most OP

Final results to judge is 3month PO, we are waiting boyyy

Soon getting my Bimax , i will share my results 3month PO
 
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how long do you need to stop the gym?
 
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This is awesome. So much respect. It takes a lot of courage 🙏
 
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OP sounds and looks like a maths teacher in England

@FastBananaCEO @PingPong @Zakamg
 
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This was surprisingly affordable. All of that in the US could easily be $60k+ considering the expertise of the surgeons involved.
 
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@FastBananaCEO @PingPong @Zakamg
yoo nigga stop larping as a 16yo 😡
 
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how long do you need to stop the gym?

Dr Ramieri says 4 weeks mininum and no heavy lifting that would clench your teeth.

I am back on testosterone and primobolan to help in getting my weight and strength back.

Expect to lose alot of weight and strength after this surgery even if you are eating well.
 
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mirin bro u did everything i want in 1 fking surgery:lul:

obviously we need a before after of your front but I guess it could take months to swell down.

also you got similar movements as me. did you had an overbite before you pushing back the teeth with braces?
Yeah i hope to get before and afters when the swelling is gone and edit it into the video all with a higher resolution. But wanted to give you guys something now and not wait that long.

I had camouflage orthodontics before pre surgical orthodontics. So i guess i had a minor overbite before having braces at all.
 
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sick bro

how did you go about getting orthodontics in london and then surgery in italy?
 
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Yeah i hope to get before and afters when the swelling is gone and edit it into the video all with a higher resolution. But wanted to give you guys something now and not wait that long.

I had camouflage orthodontics before pre surgical orthodontics. So i guess i had a minor overbite before having braces at all.

Yeah i hope to get before and afters when the swelling is gone and edit it into the video all with a higher resolution. But wanted to give you guys something now and not wait that long.

I had camouflage orthodontics before pre surgical orthodontics. So i guess i had a minor overbite before having braces at all.
so u think 8-9mm bsso made a big difference? fixing overbite + pushing the jaw little more over the "natural" state?
 
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Dr Ramieri says 4 weeks mininum and no heavy lifting that would clench your teeth.

I am back on testosterone and primobolan to help in getting my weight and strength back.

Expect to lose alot of weight and strength after this surgery even if you are eating well.
How long do you have to wait until you can clench your teeth? I assume this is due to CCW rotation?
 
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I recently underwent double jaw surgery, genioplasty, rhinoplasty and custom infraorbital malar implants in Italy with Dr Ramieri and Dr Marienetti.

I decided to document my experience to help you guys out as much as possible.



Surgeons Names:
Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti

Surgeries and movements undertaken: Lefort 1 - 3.5mm projection 4mm downgraft , clockwise rotation
BSSO - 8mm
Genioplasty - 5mm projection forward 3mm vertical
Rhinoplasty (deviated bulbous nose)
Custom Infraorbital malar implants PEEK

Cost
Total cost: €25,000 (excluding travel, accommodation, braces ect)

Bimax + Genio €15,000
Rhinoplasty €5,000
Custom infraorbital malar implants in peek €5,000

Contact details
Dr Ramieri
info@maxilloroma.it

Consult price
€150

Location
Ortognatica Roma
Via Nomentana, 311, 00198 Roma RM, Italy

Airbnb - £800

Orthodontics

Cost approximately £2500 including extractions
Name: Dr Alex
Clinic: ODL Dental London
Website: https://www.odldentalclinic.com/meet-the-team

This is a draft video, i still need to add more footage (my orthodontist, the consultation, pictures after swelling has been reduced) the resolution is very low I have the HD copies on standby for the final version.


Mods Please can this thread be open to future edits

@Lorsss @Alexanderr @Gargantuan


Hope this helps you guys in some way. I learned everything from this forum so i want to give back.

Congrats brother, I'm Mirin
 
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so u think 8-9mm bsso made a big difference? fixing overbite + pushing the jaw little more over the "natural" state?
It made a reasonable difference, it just balanced/harmonised my face. I wouldn't say i have a slayer lower third. The biggest change imo was the infraorbital malar implants tbh

How long do you have to wait until you can clench your teeth? I assume this is due to CCW rotation?

I had clockwise rotation for short face. He didnt say how long to not clench teeth but tbh, its going to be a long time before i can lift heavy again. It will be light to medium weights for months.
 
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It made a reasonable difference, it just balanced/harmonised my face. I wouldn't say i have a slayer lower third. The biggest change imo was the infraorbital malar implants tbh



I had clockwise rotation for short face. He didnt say how long to not clench teeth but tbh, its going to be a long time before i can lift heavy again. It will be light to medium weights for months.
are u happy with the movements? or do u wish that u had more?
 
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Wtf man, you already had long mandible why would you need BSSO that makes it even more longer? Uncanny look?


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I recently underwent double jaw surgery, genioplasty, rhinoplasty and custom infraorbital malar implants in Italy with Dr Ramieri and Dr Marienetti.

I decided to document my experience to help you guys out as much as possible.



Surgeons Names:
Dr Ramieri and Dr Marianetti

Surgeries and movements undertaken: Lefort 1 - 3.5mm projection 4mm downgraft , clockwise rotation
BSSO - 8mm
Genioplasty - 5mm projection forward 3mm vertical
Rhinoplasty (deviated bulbous nose)
Custom Infraorbital malar implants PEEK

Cost
Total cost: €25,000 (excluding travel, accommodation, braces ect)

Bimax + Genio €15,000
Rhinoplasty €5,000
Custom infraorbital malar implants in peek €5,000

Contact details
Dr Ramieri
info@maxilloroma.it

Consult price
€150

Location
Ortognatica Roma
Via Nomentana, 311, 00198 Roma RM, Italy

Airbnb - £800

Orthodontics

Cost approximately £2500 including extractions
Name: Dr Alex
Clinic: ODL Dental London
Website: https://www.odldentalclinic.com/meet-the-team

This is a draft video, i still need to add more footage (my orthodontist, the consultation, pictures after swelling has been reduced) the resolution is very low I have the HD copies on standby for the final version.


Mods Please can this thread be open to future edits

@Lorsss @Alexanderr @Gargantuan


Hope this helps you guys in some way. I learned everything from this forum so i want to give back.

Thats expensive asf but good job
 
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