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I just saw this. Makes no sense, they do 2 completely different things JFL.RU58841 mogs
sorry for the late reply, do you remember or know the exact oral castor oil you used?It will increase hair growth yes, which includes eye lashes. Drink 5-10mL a day. Maybe work up to that dosage since it is used as a laxative. I just full sent it straight to 5-10mL and was fine, no issue.
I’m the same, I didn’t think i had adverse sides till i stopped.yeah ngl I would've called you retarded a year ago but yeah I stopped and I have less brain fog
Oral lmao 7.5 for a couple months. And yeah I bloated.I’m the same, I didn’t think i had adverse sides till i stopped.
Oral or topical?
Did you bloat?
Pretty high dose as well. Maybe you could try low dose and titrate up based on sides but idk if it’s worth it. I wouldn’t try tbh.Oral lmao 7.5 for a couple months. And yeah I bloated.
yup i look *slightly* better now. Yeah I was thinking that too but its really not worth it. I really felt like shit and didn't know why. Fatigue, brain fog, couldn't remember shit. Not gonna risk that again I was legit suicidal. Plus it was only for eyebrow growth, so now I switched over to latisse and SCM which mogsPretty high dose as well. Maybe you could try low dose and titrate up based on sides but idk if it’s worth it. I wouldn’t try tbh.
Did your bloating resolve after you stopped?
Yeah I don’t think it’s worth it either. The bloat I got from it just wasn’t worth it, I had to cope with 0 carbs where as before i could eat what I want and not bloat. Shit is legit poison.yup i look *slightly* better now. Yeah I was thinking that too but it’s really not worth it. I really felt like shit and didn't know why. Fatigue, brain fog, couldn't remember shit. Not gonna risk that again I was legit suicidal. Plus it was only for eyebrow growth, so now I switched over to latisse and SCM which mogs
RU regrows but ok dudeI just saw this. Makes no sense, they do 2 completely different things JFL.
Not because it has a mechanism to grow hair JFL, only because it blocks dht and test from binding to the receptors.. Half the people that use it use it for brows, want them to apply RU to their eyebrow JFL? tfRU regrows but ok dude
OkNot because it has a mechanism to grow hair JFL, only because it blocks dht and test from binding to the receptors.. Half the people that use it use it for brows, want them to apply RU to their eyebrow JFL? tf
Have you noticed any fat loss under the eyes with latisse? Also what is scm?yup i look *slightly* better now. Yeah I was thinking that too but its really not worth it. I really felt like shit and didn't know why. Fatigue, brain fog, couldn't remember shit. Not gonna risk that again I was legit suicidal. Plus it was only for eyebrow growth, so now I switched over to latisse and SCM which mogs
Bro what castor oil did you use? Does any work or a one specifically for oral(I obviously know it should be 100% organic chemical free and coldpressed) but is there anything else I need to knowOral Castor oil is the best best option. Very effective. 5-10mL not bs 1mL a day. No bloat.
I just pulled up to the pharmacy and got pharma grade castor oilBro what castor oil did you use? Does any work or a one specifically for oral(I obviously know it should be 100% organic chemical free and coldpressed) but is there anything else I need to know
stop it for 2 weeks and see the difference. I thought the same as you until I actually stopped.Im not bloated at 3 months 1 Week
Will I lose the gains after 2 weeks?stop it for 2 weeks and see the difference. I thought the same as you until I actually stopped.
minox gains are never permanent. if you start you are on for life if you want to keep your gains.Will I lose the gains after 2 weeks?
But it mogs thicker darker hair suits meminox gains are never permanent. if you start you are on for life if you want to keep your gains.
no i just use it on my eyebrows and let it dry first. SCM stands for Stem Cell Complete MediaHave you noticed any fat loss under the eyes with latisse? Also what is scm?
Alrno i just use it on my eyebrows and let it dry first. SCM stands for Stem Cell Complete Media
Trusting pharmasI just pulled up to the pharmacy and got pharma grade castor oil
This resolves after discontinuing oral minox right?Minoxidil bloats you because the hyperpolarization induces an increase in sodium retention through increased aldosterone biosynthesis in order to reduce intracellular potassium.
completely resolves. minoxidil's only permanent effect is terminal differentiation of vellus hairs, which is the main reason (apart from peripheral bloat) you shouldn't use it orally for extended periods of time. collagen effect is unconfirmed, but probably reversible if it even happens.This resolves after discontinuing oral minox right?
All I know is that microneedling is only needed for increasing absorption to topically applied products. As far as I know microneedling doesn’t really do anything on its own, but i could be wrong. Obviously when taking oral there is no need to microneedle. You can use oral minox without the bloat, as mentioned here: He is more knowledgeable on the subject than me. I simply just stated the sides I experienced on it. I also got results from oral castor oil, since i think it increases PGE 2 I think which is responsible for hair growth.
will have to try microblading brows then, its kinda gay tho ngl
do u know anything about it?
Just use Eplerenone in conjunction. Minoxidil bloats you because the hyperpolarization induces an increase in sodium retention through increased aldosterone biosynthesis in order to reduce intracellular potassium.
50mg is more than enough, I say this because LDOM + spironolactone (another aldosterone antagonist that also blocks androgen receptors) is a safe treatment for female androgenic alopecia. Minox was dosed at 0.25mg and spiro was dosed at 25mg, a dosage that Eplerenone equals in terms of mineralocorticoid effects at 50mg without any risk of androgen blockade.
Running 20-80mg (above 80mg and you're fucking up your thyroid) Furosemide every saturday when going out for short-term debloating makes peripheral edema even less likely to happen.
As in the the turning of vellus hairs terminal? Isn’t that the desired effect and the whole reason why most people use minox? For example people who use it for beard? They’re goal is to turn their vellus beard hairs terminal etc.completely resolves. minoxidil's only permanent effect is terminal differentiation of vellus hairs, which is the main reason (apart from peripheral bloat) you shouldn't use it orally for extended periods of time. collagen effect is unconfirmed, but probably reversible if it even happens.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK microneedling increases absorption of topically applied products by making them go systemic.All I know is that microneedling is only needed for increasing absorption to topically applied products. As far as I know microneedling doesn’t really do anything on its own, but i could be wrong. Obviously when taking oral there is no need to microneedle.
I was talking out my ass lmfao.You can use oral minox without the bloat, as mentioned here: He is more knowledgeable on the subject than me. I simply just stated the sides I experienced on it.
You're right, but that can also be attained with topical usage without risking hair growth literally everywhere (under the earlobe, upper back, inner forearms, biceps, traps, shoulders, weird parts of the torso, temple points connecting to outer eyebrows, etc etc etc). All that happened to me after using 5mg from january to may 2024 and I still got remnants of those hairs. You can always shave but it's still a hassle.As in the the turning of vellus hairs terminal? Isn’t that the desired effect and the whole reason why most people use minox? For example people who use it for beard? They’re goal is to turn their vellus beard hairs terminal etc.
100%So anything bloat related gets resolved after discontinuation of oral usage?
Yeah I think you’re right on the first bit. I appreciate your self conducted experiment, very useful. It was oral you used right? and not the tabs but topical minox taken orally?Correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK microneedling increases absorption of topically applied products by making them go systemic.
I was talking out my ass lmfao.
Tried putting the theory into practice throughout this month and the last by running 50mg eplerenone for 28 days so it reached it's full effect (according to some mainstream and sketchy websites), and adding in a daily drop of topical minox (roughly 2.5mg) after said 28 days elapsed. I still got bloated like a motherfucker after a week or so.
3 days off both Minox AND Eplerenone and my ogee curve improved. Eplerenone's half-life is simply too short + debloating effects are minimal. MR antagonism also decreases collagen synthesis.
You're right, but that can also be attained with topical usage without risking hair growth literally everywhere (under the earlobe, upper back, inner forearms, biceps, traps, shoulders, weird parts of the torso, temple points connecting to outer eyebrows, etc etc etc). All that happened to me after using 5mg from january to may 2024 and I still got remnants of those hairs. You can always shave but it's still a hassle.
The only valid use for oral minoxidil is hair regrowth. In that case, I believe the benefits (reversing your hairline on the NW scale) far outweigh the downsides (water retention, theoretical collagen depletion, hypertrichosis).
100%
do you just drink the fucking castor oil thats used topically or is there a drinkable version?It will increase hair growth yes, which includes eye lashes. Drink 5-10mL a day. Maybe work up to that dosage since it is used as a laxative. I just full sent it straight to 5-10mL and was fine, no issue.
Where do you buy oral castor? All the ones I can find says it is for external use onlyBrows - Oral castor at 5-10mL does work
Hair - Wageslave and get hair transplant in future or get a hair system
Are you still on it?i was balding when i was 17 it wasn't genetic and i got all my hair back with minoxidil
i was balding when i was 17 it wasn't genetic and i got all my hair back with minoxidil
Doesn’t telogen effluvium fix on its own?Are you still on it?
Usually, but you can’t assume that was the cause of his caseDoesn’t telogen effluvium fix on its own?
AGA or TE are the real main causes I think. Since he said it’s not genetic (idk how he came to that conclusion since balding genes are random asf) I assumed it’s TE. He could be wrong tho and it is genetic.Usually, but you can’t assume that was the cause of his case
I think I remember giving u a ghk cu hair serum recipeTalking as someone who had previously used Oral Minoxidil for ~2 years.
It is the biggest bloatmax you can do, and results are not permanent
You may not notice the bloat, but you look at your face every single day. I only realised how much of a brutal looksmin it is after looking at older photos of me where I was higher body fat, yet somehow facially leaner.
I was doing my utmost to debloat, and coping with “carbs cause bloating”, “it’s the sodium bro”
Trying 110% to debloat, and not being as facially lean when lower body fat than when higher body fat, and not giving a single fuck about what I ate is absolutely brutal.
I quit minoxidil 2 to 3 months ago now, the bloating did go away. Took around 2 weeks to a month, I forgot. Legit ate 10k calories of goyslop and there was literally no bloat.
No, none of the results on your eyelashes and eyebrows are gonna be permanent. Only beard. Reason for that is that since Minoxidil increases hair growth through increased blood flow, the hairs get an extra “boost” to grow. Beard hairs aren’t terminal hairs yet if you don’t have a beard, so minoxidil gives them that extra “boost” to become terminal hairs. Lashes and eyebrows are already terminal hair, so the increased blood flow is increasing the hair growth, but since the hair is already terminal, it can’t become terminal again, so once the Minoxidil usage is stopped, it will simply return to its pre minoxidil state.
Hopefully that makes sense.
And I also honestly don’t recommend topical minoxidil either. It still transatlantic to an extent.
TL;DR - Minoxidil causes bloating, through fucking up sodium and potassium channels. None of its hair growth is permanent, so I can’t see why anyone would use it.
Yes, you did. I am on just Dutasteride 2.5mg a day right now, may add the ghkcu soon if there are some good studies and anecdotes about its usage for hair. I will look into it now. Why do you ask?I think I remember giving u a ghk cu hair serum recipe
U ever end up using it ?
Use it if you want, anecdotally it bloats the fuck out of you though, many users here can attest to that.@DR. NICKGA thoughts on this? fear mongering much?