Not sure if this applies, but how do you set up an orthodontic surgery or appointment, and how long does it take

[cannibaloid]

Which app would you recommend or download ?

Doesn’t matter

 

[cannibaloid]

Also I use mouth tape in my sleep should I sleep without it to record it ?

Yes sleep without it

 

[Dan0]

Doesn’t matter

Yes sleep without it

If it turns out I snore does that mean I have sleep apnea? And does it matter if I’m loud ?

 

[vermicel]

bsso n genio

submental plane lift

This is probably the way to go. BSSO + genioplasty (vertical/downgraft ?) + neck lift.
If his nose doesn't allow proper breathing, depending on the type of issue, he might need a complementary septoplasty /septorhinoplasty / palate expander / segmental LF1.

How do I achieve this ?

You can't. Those are not realistic morphs.
Here's a closer rendition of what you might achieve with a BSSO, genioplasty, and neck lift :

Here's the same as above + cartilage graft to the tip and radix in order to achieve a straight nose :

A third and final morph, including all the above + depigmented or fuller periorbital area. This could be achieved with a specific laser treatment, fat grafting, or infraorbital implant ; only one of them, or a combination of them. You'll have to consult with oculoplastic surgeons to shed some light on the matter.

Keep in mind that sideprofilemaxxing is partially cope. One doesn't need an ideal side profile to be regarded as good-looking. Front profile matters more, so focus on that instead.

To illustrate my point, here are the side profiles of successful international models :

As you can see, it ranges from mild lack of forward growth to downright extreme retrusion. Yet, they make a living out of their looks, because they look good from the front. If that works for professional models, why wouldn't it work for you ?

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

I don’t think ur orbital vector is negative

Oh cmon, the dude has the worst infras you could have. This is the most negative orbital vector you could pretty much have.

And yes you would benefit from DJS hands down.

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

As you can see, it ranges from mild lack of forward growth to downright extreme retrusion. Yet, they make a living out of their looks, because they look good from the front. If that works for professional models, why wouldn't it work for you ?

Idk if it is the same case for the OP, but for me I've been so insecure about my side profile my whole life. Idgaf if it will benefit my front a lot (though it probably will), I just want to get rid of that insecurity and be confident in my side profile.

Im getting a lefort

 

[Dan0]

This is probably the way to go. BSSO + genioplasty (vertical/downgraft ?) + neck lift.
If his nose doesn't allow proper breathing, depending on the type of issue, he might need a complementary septoplasty /septorhinoplasty / palate expander / segmental LF1.


You can't. Those are not realistic morphs.
Here's a closer rendition of what you might achieve with a BSSO, genioplasty, and neck lift :

View attachment 5545496

Here's the same as above + cartilage graft to the tip and radix in order to achieve a straight nose :

View attachment 5545545

A third and final morph, including all the above + depigmented or fuller periorbital area. This could be achieved with a specific laser treatment, fat grafting, or infraorbital implant ; only one of them, or a combination of them. You'll have to consult with oculoplastic surgeons to shed some light on the matter.

View attachment 5545566

Keep in mind that sideprofilemaxxing is partially cope. One doesn't need an ideal side profile to be regarded as good-looking. Front profile matters more, so focus on that instead.

To illustrate my point, here are the side profiles of successful international models :
View attachment 5545510View attachment 5545511View attachment 5545512View attachment 5545516View attachment 5545518
As you can see, it ranges from mild lack of forward growth to downright extreme retrusion. Yet, they make a living out of their looks, because they look good from the front. If that works for professional models, why wouldn't it work for you ?

Don’t forget Vito

 

[Dan0]

Idk if it is the same case for the OP, but for me I've been so insecure about my side profile my whole life. Idgaf if it will benefit my front a lot (though it probably will), I just want to get rid of that insecurity and be confident in my side profile.

Im getting a lefort

Bro same

 

[Dan0]

Yes sleep without it

I recorded it here’s what I got

 

[Dan0]

This is probably the way to go. BSSO + genioplasty (vertical/downgraft ?) + neck lift.
If his nose doesn't allow proper breathing, depending on the type of issue, he might need a complementary septoplasty /septorhinoplasty / palate expander / segmental LF1.


You can't. Those are not realistic morphs.
Here's a closer rendition of what you might achieve with a BSSO, genioplasty, and neck lift :

View attachment 5545496

Here's the same as above + cartilage graft to the tip and radix in order to achieve a straight nose :

View attachment 5545545

A third and final morph, including all the above + depigmented or fuller periorbital area. This could be achieved with a specific laser treatment, fat grafting, or infraorbital implant ; only one of them, or a combination of them. You'll have to consult with oculoplastic surgeons to shed some light on the matter.

View attachment 5545566

Keep in mind that sideprofilemaxxing is partially cope. One doesn't need an ideal side profile to be regarded as good-looking. Front profile matters more, so focus on that instead.

To illustrate my point, here are the side profiles of successful international models :
View attachment 5545510View attachment 5545511View attachment 5545512View attachment 5545516View attachment 5545518
As you can see, it ranges from mild lack of forward growth to downright extreme retrusion. Yet, they make a living out of their looks, because they look good from the front. If that works for professional models, why wouldn't it work for you ?

What would be the highest I could ascend ? Like would I steal reach HTN ?

 

[Gittes]

I remember when .org used to commonly have threads about actual surgeries. Now it's devolved into "how to book a doctor's appointment". Total dumpster fire of site now.

 

[cannibaloid]

I recorded it here’s what I got

Do this for a week or two bro, a day wont cut it

 

[Dan0]

Do this for a week or two bro, a day wont cut it

Aight