NPC trait: considering incest to be inherently "bad"

[Reckless Turtle]

Inbreeding is only detrimental to a population if the resulting offspring have poor genetic resilience to environmental factors. Some detrimental phenotypes can result from inbreeding due to the combination of recessive alleles, but that depends on the parents carrying said alleles.

Inbreeding is extremely common among most animal species and frequently results in increased offspring fitness.

Incest is shunned within societies as a means of male intrasexual competition (and is inherently gynocentric because it allows some degree of sexual mobility for females) rather than because it's inherently problematic, genetically.

Without punishments for incest among the common folk, powerful men would have more difficulty assembling virginal harems due to most females losing their virginities to a close male family member (fathers, brothers, etc) who have the easiest, immediate access. With incestuous punishments in place, common folk fathers are forced to give their daughters to another man (or else the daughters will choose for themselves) which ultimately leads a disproportionate amount of women to the most powerful or genetically optimal males within the society.

Note that laws against incest are rarely applied to the elites; many kings and princes reproduced with their female family members in addition to having harems of other men's daughters.

Currently, certain countries (most in Western Europe) have restrictions on the number of times a sperm bank can use a singular sperm sample. The argument is that, without a limit, inbreeding will become too prominent, which is detrimental to society. However, as explained before, that argument is bogus, especially considering that women are naturally inclined to reproduce with a minority of the male population.

Incest is not strongly selected against; hypergamy prevails

If 90%+ of young men are not sexually attractive to women, then: There is a 90%+ chance that a girl would never be sexually attracted to her brother, regardless of him being her brother. Fathers may have an even smaller chance of being sexually attractive to their daughters (once they are...

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[cancercell]

Include me in the r/inceltears screenshot

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Include me in the r/inceltears screenshot

It's too tame, but it will make for a nice copy pasta.

 

[New Poster]

Subhuman trait: Caring about opinions on incest

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Subhuman trait: Caring about opinions on incest

Alpha males don't think about incest and its consequences, they simply have sex with their siblings at age 14.

 

[New Poster]

Alpha males don't think about incest and its consequences, they simply have sex with their siblings at age 14.

Dude just fap already

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Dude just fap already

This isn't a fetish post.

 

[MoggerGaston]

99% of sex in the world is done for enjoyment, not for reproduction.

so problems with reproduction aren't a legit argument against incest sex anyways. U can just do it for enjoyment.

 

[ranierean]

tbh agreed
my half-sister is supposedly hot but I can't find any high res pictures and she has to be in mid-30s by now

 

[Reckless Turtle]

99% of sex in the world is done for enjoyment, not for reproduction.

so problems with reproduction aren't a legit argument against incest sex anyways. U can just do it for enjoyment.

This is true as well but most laws against incest occurred prior to birth control and easy abortions.

 

[New Poster]

This isn't a fetish post.

Who tf else cares about incest?

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Who tf else cares about incest?

Why do you care so much about not caring about incest? Many users here would like to discuss the topic.

 

[New Poster]

Why do you care so much about not caring about incest? Many users here would like to discuss the topic.

I don't. I just think it's pathetic.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

I don't. I just think it's pathetic.

 

[Looks234]

this thread was typed by brown fingers from a hut in Pakistan

 

[Debetro]

Didn't expect such a good post. I don't see any flaws in your logic.

 

[Deleted member 3127]

this thread was typed by brown fingers from a hut in Pakistan

pakistanis in UK inbreeding like crazy. Inbreeding is the reason why curries and arabs are so low smv(non white arabs that are not mixed)

Even among whites its always the mixed motherfuckers that mog the racial pure onces. Mulatto theory is legit.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

this thread was typed by brown fingers from a hut in Pakistan

It was actually typed under the exact opposite of every condition mentioned.

Also:

 

[try2beme]

tbh agreed
my half-sister is supposedly hot but I can't find any high res pictures and she has to be in mid-30s by now

You are bottom barrel variant of human you insectueous beast

 

[Reckless Turtle]

I don't see any flaws in your logic.

You rarely ever will.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

pakistanis in UK inbreeding like crazy. Inbreeding is the reason why curries and arabs are so low smv(non white arabs that are not mixed)

Even among whites its always the mixed motherfuckers that mog the racial pure onces. Mulatto theory is legit.

It's as if you wrote this entire comment with the explicit intention of stroking off the guy you responded to.

 

[Deleted member 3127]

It's as if you wrote this entire comment with the explicit intention of stroking off the guy you responded to.

what you mean? Mulattos have crazy smv nigga. My cousin is half german half black and he mogs me back to führerbunker. I heightmog him but he gets more attention from women. I am catholic religious so i dont care about sex or women til marriage but i cant deny mulatto smv. Even some hapa chicks i have seen absolutely mogged pure asian skinny bitches.

Women love racemaxxing for a reason. Mother nature programmed it into their dna to ensure offspring is better off

 

[Debetro]

You rarely ever will.

Narcy cope you have the same reputation in this forum as @disillusioned.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

what you mean? Mulattos have crazy smv nigga. My cousin is half german half black and he mogs me back to führerbunker. I heightmog him but he gets more attention from women. I am catholic religious so i dont care about sex or women til marriage but i cant deny mulatto smv. Even some hapa chicks i have seen absolutely mogged pure asian skinny bitches.

Women love racemaxxing for a reason. Mother nature programmed it into their dna to ensure offspring is better off

I've already made a thread on this.

Does the average mulatto man have higher SMV than the average white man?

Mulattos have the benefit of genetic diversity with two of the highest SMV races. That genetic diversity alone tends to mog the average white man. However, lighter skin is preferred under optimal conditions. Thus, at the apex, white men proportionally dominate Chadlite and Chad percentiles.

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But my comment was replying to the fact that your comment was basically:
>non-black ethnics subhuman
>whites okay but not great
>mulattos on top

Which is basically just trying to make @looksmaxxer234 bust.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Inbreeding is only detrimental to a population if the resulting offspring have poor genetic resilience to environmental factors. Some detrimental phenotypes can result from inbreeding due to the combination of recessive alleles, but that depends on the parents carrying said alleles.

Inbreeding is extremely common among most animal species and frequently results in increased offspring fitness.

Incest is shunned within societies as a means of male intrasexual competition (and is inherently gynocentric because it allows some degree of sexual mobility for females) rather than because it's inherently problematic, genetically.

Without punishments for incest among the common folk, powerful men would have more difficulty assembling virginal harems due to most females losing their virginities to a close male family member (fathers, brothers, etc) who have the easiest, immediate access. With incestuous punishments in place, common folk fathers are forced to give their daughters to another man (or else the daughters will choose for themselves) which ultimately leads a disproportionate amount of women to the most powerful or genetically optimal males within the society.

Note that laws against incest are rarely applied to the elites; many kings and princes reproduced with their female family members in addition to having harems of other men's daughters.

Currently, certain countries (most in Western Europe) have restrictions on the number of times a sperm bank can use a singular sperm sample. The argument is that, without a limit, inbreeding will become too prominent, which is detrimental to society. However, as explained before, that argument is bogus, especially considering that women are naturally inclined to reproduce with a minority of the male population.

Incest is not strongly selected against; hypergamy prevails

If 90%+ of young men are not sexually attractive to women, then: There is a 90%+ chance that a girl would never be sexually attracted to her brother, regardless of him being her brother. Fathers may have an even smaller chance of being sexually attractive to their daughters (once they are...

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Sperm bank/imports requirements/data

You’ve aged out of the program. Sperm donors need to be between the ages of 18 and 28. We do not accept older sperm donors. Among white donors, they also require their donors to be taller than 5'10". Sperm Donors Must Be: At least 5’10” tall Brown has heard of additional limitations from...

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Wheezed at the title

My mother was next to me and invitingly said, "what so funny?"

"you wouldn't get it"

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Narcy cope you have the same reputation in this forum as @disillusioned.

Firstly, I don't engage in prostate stimulation and complain about working at a pizza parlor.

Secondly, he's a well-respected and iconic user.

Thirdly, you're really observant for someone who's only been here for less than a month.

 

[Deleted member 3127]

I've already made a thread on this.

Does the average mulatto man have higher SMV than the average white man?

Mulattos have the benefit of genetic diversity with two of the highest SMV races. That genetic diversity alone tends to mog the average white man. However, lighter skin is preferred under optimal conditions. Thus, at the apex, white men proportionally dominate Chadlite and Chad percentiles.

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But my comment was replying to the fact that your comment was basically:
>non-black ethnics subhuman
>white okay but not great
>mulattos on top

Which is basically just trying to make @looksmaxxer234 bust.

nah i dont completely agree with that hierachy.

my hierachy based on my individual experiments. Nordics and bbc's and mulattos do the best in my opinion but i dont put one pheno on the absolute top. With certain locations nordic might mog bbc or mulatto and at certain locations bbc might mog. I put them in general tiers. Every tier is in my opinion almost same smv

My hierachy:

God tier: Nordic germanic pheno, Dark skin bbc, Mulatto

demi god tier: Med, north atlantid, latino

human level: arab, light skin curry

subhuman level: curry, asian

never began level: every guy with major deformity + abo pheno

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Wheezed at the title

My mother was next to me and invitingly said, "what so funny?"

"you wouldn't get it"

zv1212​

I am indian. But my cock is black.​

 

[Bushman]

this thread was typed by brown fingers from a hut in Pakistan

Tango Down

 

[Reckless Turtle]

nah i dont completely agree with that hierachy.

my hierachy based on my individual experiments. Nordics and bbc's and mulattos do the best in my opinion but i dont put one pheno on the absolute top. With certain locations nordic might mog bbc or mulatto and at certain locations bbc might mog. I would general tiers. Every tier is in my opinion almost same smv

My hierachy:

God tier: Nordic germanic pheno, Dark skin bbc, Mulatto

demi god tier: Med, north atlantic, latino

human level: arab, light skin curry

subhuman level: curry, asian

never began level: every guy with major deformity + abo pheno

Let's ask @PrinceLuenLeoncur for his opinion.

 

[thickdickdaddy27]

sibling attraction I find gross tbh, I’d fuck a hot cousin no problem tho

 

[Reckless Turtle]

sibling attraction I find gross tbh, I’d fuck a hot cousin no problem tho

Thanks for being honest.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

zv1212​

I am indian. But my cock is black.​

Why does everyone do this to me?

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Why does everyone do this to me?

Why do you do it to yourself?

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Why do you do it to yourself?

Because I am Indian. However, my cock is black.

 

[JBcollector]

Inbreeding is only detrimental to a population if the resulting offspring have poor genetic resilience to environmental factors. Some detrimental phenotypes can result from inbreeding due to the combination of recessive alleles, but that depends on the parents carrying said alleles.

Inbreeding is extremely common among most animal species and frequently results in increased offspring fitness.

Incest is shunned within societies as a means of male intrasexual competition (and is inherently gynocentric because it allows some degree of sexual mobility for females) rather than because it's inherently problematic, genetically.

Without punishments for incest among the common folk, powerful men would have more difficulty assembling virginal harems due to most females losing their virginities to a close male family member (fathers, brothers, etc) who have the easiest, immediate access. With incestuous punishments in place, common folk fathers are forced to give their daughters to another man (or else the daughters will choose for themselves) which ultimately leads a disproportionate amount of women to the most powerful or genetically optimal males within the society.

Note that laws against incest are rarely applied to the elites; many kings and princes reproduced with their female family members in addition to having harems of other men's daughters.

Currently, certain countries (most in Western Europe) have restrictions on the number of times a sperm bank can use a singular sperm sample. The argument is that, without a limit, inbreeding will become too prominent, which is detrimental to society. However, as explained before, that argument is bogus, especially considering that women are naturally inclined to reproduce with a minority of the male population.

Incest is not strongly selected against; hypergamy prevails

If 90%+ of young men are not sexually attractive to women, then: There is a 90%+ chance that a girl would never be sexually attracted to her brother, regardless of him being her brother. Fathers may have an even smaller chance of being sexually attractive to their daughters (once they are...

looksmax.org

Sperm bank/imports requirements/data

You’ve aged out of the program. Sperm donors need to be between the ages of 18 and 28. We do not accept older sperm donors. Among white donors, they also require their donors to be taller than 5'10". Sperm Donors Must Be: At least 5’10” tall Brown has heard of additional limitations from...

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Inbreeding is bad but it's fine to date your sister daughter or cousins

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Inbreeding is bad but it's fine to date your sister daughter or cousins

Dating without breeding, I'm assuming?

 

[JBcollector]

Dating without breeding, I'm assuming?

Yea or you can just have a kid with your wife and raise it together with your sister or cousin or

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Yea or you can just have a kid with your wife and raise it together with your sister or cousin or

Breeding is bad in general.

 

[Deleted member 29796]

It's not inherently bad but serious people don't look at the genetic component of incest when determining if it is morally wrong or not, you usually proceed to argue about the topic assuming it isn't even possible to produce offspring or that the offspring will be healthy. Point is, there are so many arguments to consider regarding the topic, offspring is just the surface of the discussion.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

It's not inherently bad but serious people don't look at the genetic component of incest when determining if it is morally wrong or not, you usually proceed to argue about the topic assuming it isn't even possible to produce offspring or that the offspring will be healthy. Point is, there are so many arguments to consider regarding the topic, offspring is just the surface of the discussion.

Any form of breeding is bad but I was observing why normies think that incest, specifically, is bad when the reality is that it isn't fundamentally "better" than non-incestuous breeding.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Let's ask @PrinceLuenLeoncur for his opinion.

He’s right. These are indeed the main characters

 

[Deleted member 24781]

Inbreeding is only detrimental to a population if the resulting offspring have poor genetic resilience to environmental factors. Some detrimental phenotypes can result from inbreeding due to the combination of recessive alleles, but that depends on the parents carrying said alleles.

Inbreeding is extremely common among most animal species and frequently results in increased offspring fitness.

Incest is shunned within societies as a means of male intrasexual competition (and is inherently gynocentric because it allows some degree of sexual mobility for females) rather than because it's inherently problematic, genetically.

Without punishments for incest among the common folk, powerful men would have more difficulty assembling virginal harems due to most females losing their virginities to a close male family member (fathers, brothers, etc) who have the easiest, immediate access. With incestuous punishments in place, common folk fathers are forced to give their daughters to another man (or else the daughters will choose for themselves) which ultimately leads a disproportionate amount of women to the most powerful or genetically optimal males within the society.

Note that laws against incest are rarely applied to the elites; many kings and princes reproduced with their female family members in addition to having harems of other men's daughters.

Currently, certain countries (most in Western Europe) have restrictions on the number of times a sperm bank can use a singular sperm sample. The argument is that, without a limit, inbreeding will become too prominent, which is detrimental to society. However, as explained before, that argument is bogus, especially considering that women are naturally inclined to reproduce with a minority of the male population.

Incest is not strongly selected against; hypergamy prevails

If 90%+ of young men are not sexually attractive to women, then: There is a 90%+ chance that a girl would never be sexually attracted to her brother, regardless of him being her brother. Fathers may have an even smaller chance of being sexually attractive to their daughters (once they are...

looksmax.org

Sperm bank/imports requirements/data

You’ve aged out of the program. Sperm donors need to be between the ages of 18 and 28. We do not accept older sperm donors. Among white donors, they also require their donors to be taller than 5'10". Sperm Donors Must Be: At least 5’10” tall Brown has heard of additional limitations from...

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Reproducing with a family member who's below your 3rd cousin is maladaptive.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Reproducing with a family member who's below your 3rd cousin is maladaptive.

Because you said so?

 

[Deleted member 29796]

Any form of breeding is bad but I was just observing why normies think that incest, specifically, is bad, when the reality is that it isn't fundamentally "better" than non-incestuous breeding.

Yeah, but consider, I don't think the law is playing into it, these people are growing up together in small spaces. I think in those conditions, they should naturally build up a level of disgust that prevents sexual intercourse from happening. Put simply, can you even imagine fucking your own mother? Unless you are porn fucked, that idea shouldn't even cross your mind. But why? It isn't the law. It think it's disgust plus a bond that is primarily built on things that aren't related to sex, the expectation of support from that person, a reliance on that person.

So in an environment where families are being raised in private households, building those bonds, I see it as disastrous to society to introduce incest legally, you have power dynamics, and so many other things at play that can become destroyed through sexual relations, and this will bleed onto society, outside of the house.

But I would say, it's probably possible to avoid most serious negatives in an environment that was heavily community oriented, so everyone raising other children.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Yeah, but consider, I don't think the law is playing into it, these people are growing up together in small spaces. I think in those conditions, they should naturally build up a level of disgust that prevents sexual intercourse from happening. Put simply, can you even imagine fucking your own mother? Unless you are porn fucked, that idea shouldn't even cross your mind. But why? It isn't the law. It think it's disgust plus a bond that is primarily built on things that aren't related to sex, the expectation of support from that person, a reliance on that person.

So in an environment where families are being raised in private households, building those bonds, I see it as disastrous to society to introduce incest legally, you have power dynamics, and so many other things at play that can become destroyed through sexual relations, and this will bleed onto society, outside of the house.

But I would say, it's probably possible to avoid most serious negatives in an environment that was heavily community oriented, so everyone raising other children.

Strawman. Males are less likely to have an interest in having sex with their mothers due to the mothers being older and stretched out. The OP was specifically referring to pubescent females.

 

[Deleted member 29796]

Strawman. Males are less likely to have an interest in having sex with their mothers due to the mothers being older and stretched out. The OP was specifically referring to pubescent females.

There is no strawman, I'm speaking to:

why normies think that incest, specifically, is bad

Are you saying they think it's bad because of law? If so, I'm saying no. Law can influence behavior and morality, but there is no understanding of this law by minors, and I would be surprised if most adults even consider the law, the idea of incest yeah, but it being legal or not, doubtful, most people can't even cite their rights.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

There is no strawman, I'm speaking to

You brought it up as a point of dismissing incest as a viable reproductive strategy.

There is no strawman, I'm speaking to:



Are you saying they think it's bad because of law? If so, I'm saying no. Law can influence behavior and morality, but there is no understanding of this law by minors, and I would be surprised if most adults even consider the law, the idea of incest yeah, but it being legal or not, doubtful, most people can't even cite their rights.

Social stigmas against incest convince normies that incest is bad. Laws are essentially just documented social stigmas. Children are convinced by their parents to not have sex with their siblings and those parents were convinced to enforce that due to social stigmas against incest. Parents are also convinced to not have sex with their offspring due to fear of punishment by the power establishment.

 

[Deleted member 29796]

You brought it up as a point of dismissing incest.

I'm not dismissing incest. LOL Bro, I care about reaching the truth, but I also have moral principles, if incest was advantageous to my current objective regarding wellbeing, I would take the position. That's the odd thing, simple people take every statement as an attack on them and a representation of my position. I actually never gave my position on incest, I'm just analyzing why people would be against incest. I'm just working with the idea, I'm not even really challenging you because I can see you are just working with motivated reasoning, a true NPC trait. I just rarely get to work with the idea of "incest" because I don't want to be associated with talking about it anywhere else.

Social stigmas against incest convince normies that incest is bad. Laws are essentially just documented social stigmas. Children are convinced by their parents to not have sex with their siblings and those parents were convinced to enforce that due to social stigmas against incest. Parents are also convinced to not have sex with their offspring due to fear of punishment by the power establishment.

On this, agreed. Now where do the social stigmas come from? lol Lets go deeper and deeper, the the origin of the issue, the human mind. That's the answer, not law, law is represented by the mind, social stigmas represented by the mind. I'm trying to save time here, we need to figure out why people are seemingly shying away from incest naturally. Consider, not every family is bound by law and social stigmas, why aren't they fucking?

 

[LampPostPrime]

tbh agreed
my half-sister is supposedly hot but I can't find any high res pictures and she has to be in mid-30s by now

I would coom in and have already fapped to 2 of my cousins