Optimal Diet

[Noctiѕ]

what’s the optimal diet for development during puberty? is it carnivore? omnivore? is raw meat actually better? i tried eating raw liver once and i had really bad diarrhea idk how i can eat meat raw. are vegetables and grains that bad and should be completely ignored? lmk

 

[Spieldren]

animal based balanced diet cook your food to be consistent carbs are good if you exercise which you should do

you should get your protein from animal products

fats are whatever like oils fish nuts

carbs from fruit is good

dont eat too much junk

but then again chad would still reach 6'6 and good face eating only mcdonalds

 

[Deleted member 185196]

raw primal diet of course

 

[maximuslaid]

i tried eating raw liver

Raw organs are only safe to eat if you have access to a good source. Having diarrhea meaning you probably got shit liver

Raw meat and eggs are abit safer

 

[Noctiѕ]

Raw organs are only safe to eat if you have access to a good source. Having diarrhea meaning you probably got shit liver

Raw meat and eggs are abit safer

idk where i can find a high quality source for my organs and meat. it seems impossible to find a place that sells good quality liver

 

[maximuslaid]

idk where i can find a high quality source for my organs and meat. it seems impossible to find a place that sells good quality liver

Go to a random butcher or smth

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Its raw primal with fruits and vegetables (no carni cope)

Runner up is vegetarian with eggs and low processed dairy

 

[asdvek]

cook your food to be consistent

Are you retarded?

Cooking food is not consistent. Raw is much more consistent, retard.

if you exercise which you should do

Exercise benefits are literally ALL placebo.

you should get your protein from animal products

Duh.

fats are whatever like oils fish nuts

Fats are not "whatever" they're the most important macro as they're literally the building block of testosterone and steroid hormones.

Oils and nuts are garbage for fat sources.

Olive oil is toxic bitter plant oil sprayed with glyphosate.

Nuts are plant fats and lower your testosterone they also have aflatoxins and are toxic.

carbs from fruit is good

Fruits are sprayed with glyphosate and have fructose which is garbage for your liver. Fruit will also make you fat.

dont eat too much junk

No retard, don't eat junk AT ALL, never.

 

[Spieldren]

Are you retarded?

Cooking food is not consistent. Raw is much more consistent, retard.

Exercise benefits are literally ALL placebo.

Duh.

Fats are not "whatever" they're the most important macro as they're literally the building block of testosterone and steroid hormones.

Oils and nuts are garbage for fat sources.

Olive oil is toxic bitter plant oil sprayed with glyphosate.

Nuts are plant fats and lower your testosterone they also have aflatoxins and are toxic.

Fruits are sprayed with glyphosate and have fructose which is garbage for your liver. Fruit will also make you fat.

No retard, don't eat junk AT ALL, never.

ahhh asdvek we already talked about this shit like 2 different times

 

[Noctiѕ]

ok if i eat these things am i good or is there anything else i can add: steak/bison/lamb/elk, salmon/halibut, eggs, raw milk/raw kefir/raw cheese/raw butter and cream/raw colostrum, oysters/shellfish/seafood, beef liver/heart/kidney/brain/spleen, chicken occasionally, fruit occasionally, no veggies or grains. and if i can find it, raw blood. could this be better?

 

[asdvek]

ahhh asdvek we already talked about this shit like 2 different times

I don't remember talking to you. In fact this is my first time seeing you here

 

[Spieldren]

I don't remember talking to you. In fact this is my first time seeing you here

are you serious

 

[Spieldren]

ok if i eat these things am i good or is there anything else i can add: steak/bison/lamb/elk, salmon/halibut, eggs, raw milk/raw kefir/raw cheese/raw butter and cream/raw colostrum, oysters/shellfish/seafood, beef liver/heart/kidney/brain/spleen, chicken occasionally, fruit occasionally, no veggies or grains. and if i can find it, raw blood. could this be better?

youre just coping you will spend unimaginable ammounts of money to get same development you'd get eating store bought and not some dumb bullshit like raw blood.

ask yourself why do chickens the salmon the cows every animal grow bigger in farms than in nature despite eating natural diet and not being fed antibiotics or whatever else bullshit?

its because they were fed in a surplus.

if you wanna develop to max you need to eat a lot not eat some raw shit. its cope

 

[yochico_yojordan]

what’s the optimal diet for development during puberty? is it carnivore? omnivore? is raw meat actually better? i tried eating raw liver once and i had really bad diarrhea idk how i can eat meat raw. are vegetables and grains that bad and should be completely ignored? lmk

"Omnivore" specifically, hypercarnivore subsection of omnivore, meaning ~70% animal products

Meat (especially red meat), occasional fish, eggs, milk, cheese, and yogurt. Raw milk is overhyped by enthusiasts and fear mongered by proponents. Don't worry about it. It's neither potent nor dangerous.

The remaining 30% should be nutrient dense fruits, nuts, seeds, and SOME vegetables. Here's a starter list
- Blueberries
- Bananas
- Chia Seeds
- Almonds
- Potatoes/Sweet Potatoes
- Kiwis
- Dates/Raisins
- Dark Chocolate (not a fruit/nut but whatever)

For cooking, I alternate between butter, olive oil, and avocado oil for diverse nutrients. Obviously, avoid seed oils. Beef tallow is good if you have access to it.

Organic/Grass fed/etc is marginally better. If you have access to it, use it, if you can't afford it, don't stress.

Fast digesting carbs (mostly fruit) should be concentrated near the time that you lift. This is just for energy before/during lift and glycogen replenishment after.

Most vegetables are nutritionally worthless. Crunchy water at best, anti nutrient cesspool at worst. There are exceptions.

Grains are ok sources of carbs. Cheap, not necessarily bad for you, but not very nutritious. I use them in moderation when I've already hit my nutrient targets and don't need more. This is more of a backup than something you should plan on eating frequently.

Liver is great, eat ~4 ounces once a week, but make sure to cook it. Don't eat raw meat in general. Raw eggs are safe but there's no benefit in not cooking them, so I would only eat them raw for convenience/preference.

 

[Noctiѕ]

"Omnivore" specifically, hypercarnivore subsection of omnivore, meaning ~70% animal products

Meat (especially red meat), occasional fish, eggs, milk, cheese, and yogurt. Raw milk is overhyped by enthusiasts and fear mongered by proponents. Don't worry about it. It's neither potent nor dangerous.

The remaining 30% should be nutrient dense fruits, nuts, seeds, and SOME vegetables. Here's a starter list
- Blueberries
- Bananas
- Chia Seeds
- Almonds
- Potatoes/Sweet Potatoes
- Kiwis
- Dates/Raisins
- Dark Chocolate (not a fruit/nut but whatever)

For cooking, I alternate between butter, olive oil, and avocado oil for diverse nutrients. Obviously, avoid seed oils. Beef tallow is good if you have access to it.

Organic/Grass fed/etc is marginally better. If you have access to it, use it, if you can't afford it, don't stress.

Fast digesting carbs (mostly fruit) should be concentrated near the time that you lift. This is just for energy before/during lift and glycogen replenishment after.

Most vegetables are nutritionally worthless. Crunchy water at best, anti nutrient cesspool at worst. There are exceptions.

Grains are ok sources of carbs. Cheap, not necessarily bad for you, but not very nutritious. I use them in moderation when I've already hit my nutrient targets and don't need more. This is more of a backup than something you should plan on eating frequently.

Liver is great, eat ~4 ounces once a week, but make sure to cook it. Don't eat raw meat in general. Raw eggs are safe but there's no benefit in not cooking them, so I would only eat them raw for convenience/preference.

what are the best veggies and carb sources i can get

 

[Noctiѕ]

what are the best veggies and carb sources i can get

are sweet potatoes the only one?

 

[yochico_yojordan]

what are the best veggies and carb sources i can get

Ideal:
- Sweet Potatoes (good vitamin A, complex carbs, small amounts of many nutrients)
- Potatoes (somewhat complex carbs, small amounts of many nutrients)
- Carrots (not for carbs, but a veggie you can eat, vit A)
- Dark Chocolate (carbs, lots of minerals like iron, copper, magnesium)
- Kiwis (vitamin C, simple carbs)
- Raisins/Dates (simple carbs, some nutrients)
- Bananas (simple carbs, potassium)
- other fruit, I highlighted the best ones but most fruits are good
- honey or fruit juice (preferably before or after the lift, these have high glycemic index)
- Garlic/Onions (no antinutrients, tasty, idk what benefits they have)

Acceptable in moderation/occasionally:
- Cooked oats (somewhat complex carbs, negligible/near zero antinutrients)
- Rice or rice crisps (simple carbs, no antinutrients)
- Bread (Whole grain > Sourdough > White)

Avoid completely:
- Most leafy greens (no nutrients, and the ones that do like spinach are high in antinutrients)
- Chips (seed oil nuke)
- Raw oats (phytic acid, antinutrient)
- Added sugar