Pisslam is globalist religion

[SecularIslamist]

you can't even pray the same way together, how's that NOT divided jfl.

Yeah bro so divided some guy raises their hands before ruku and the other guy doesn't. One of them is a kafir. Yeah sure bro.

calling me low iq when you believe these hadiths

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:1039 https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:677 https://sunnah.com/urn/1002010 https://sunnah.com/bukhari:5445

Millions of hadith exist even the most conservative accepts like 10-20%

 

[Deleted member 18522]

islam mogs

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

Islam fundamentalism is a CIA hybrid war op to prevent socialism or even just nationalistic modernized governments from flourishing in the middle east to secure their Oil interests in the region

 

[SecularIslamist]

In fact Islamic abrogation is a proof for Islam. Show me one example in history in which the process of banning alcohol had such effectiveness, for example.

And could give many similar examples like that with abrogation.

There isn't. I was referring to prohibition ban in the United States in the 1920s when alcohol was banned and it failed.

Prohibition in the United States - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

I was referring to earlier verses in the Qur'an talking about regulation of alcohol, before the outright prohibition which came later.

The Americucks did it too soon, too quick, and there was a backlash and repeal.

 

[MaghrebGator]

May Allah guide you to the right path… genuinely sad to see brothers believe in and say BS like this.

I feel bad for him because he is turkish and i have empathy for him.

He is one of our house and probably has muslim practicing family, his grandmother or grandfather could have been very practicing for example, he probably fasted in Ramadan in the past, knows how to recite Al Fatiha, etc. It is more difficult to see one of your people getting deviated.

However if he was just another hater who has never had any contact with Islam and just heard some stuff from some financed antimuslim preachers i wouldn't have even responded to him, or if i responded him it would have been just to expose him with arguments and use him as a means to expand Islam to the non knowledgeable audience.

 

[kebab]

I feel bad for him because he is turkish and i have empathy for him.

He is one of our house and probably has muslim practicing family, his grandmother or grandfather could have been very practicing for example, he probably fasted in Ramadan in the past, knows how to recite Al Fatiha, etc. It is more difficult to see one of your people getting deviated.

However if he was just another hater who has never had any contact with Islam and just heard some stuff from some financed antimuslim preachers i wouldn't have even responded to him, or if i responded him it would have been just to expose him with arguments and use him as a means to expand Islam to the non knowledgeable audience.

Yea I agree. If he is Alevi I could perhaps understand his hatred towards Islam. I think western media and western society in general brainwashed a lot of modern Turks.

 

[Baban]

It would've been insanity to ban it outright

alcohol is just one example of things that have been abrogated. your "in stages" argument doesn't work for how muhammad went into the kaaba and outright destroyed the idols without any abrogation causing massive hate towards him. nor does it work for his prohibitions on music, drawing living beings etc. regardless abrogation existing = the quran isn't perfect. the verses could've came and muhammad could've implemented them in stages rather than god's eternal book being full of abrogations (imperfections).

 

[Baban]

May Allah guide you to the right path… genuinely sad to see brothers believe in and say BS like this.

believe me i feel genuinely sad at seeing my brothers being backwards af too

 

[Baban]

Islam fundamentalism is a CIA hybrid war op to prevent socialism or even just nationalistic modernized governments from flourishing in the middle east to secure their Oil interests in the region

unironically true, also to divert soviet influence. exactly what happened to turkey in the 80s.

 

[SecularIslamist]

alcohol is just one example of things that have been abrogated. your "in stages" argument doesn't work for how muhammad went into the kaaba and outright destroyed the idols without any abrogation causing massive hate towards him. nor does it work for his prohibitions on music, drawing living beings etc. regardless abrogation existing = the quran isn't perfect. the verses could've came and muhammad could've implemented them in stages rather than god's eternal book being full of abrogations (imperfections).

'muh muh abrogation' every retard jumps at this. Abrogation are circumstantial and revalations had an asbab al Nuzul otherwise known as "occasion for the revelation". So some verses have applicability in certain contexts and not others. Doesn't make it false you retard.

This is why I support Sultan Erdogans tax hikes on alcohol so poor cucks like you can't afford them. Then (if) society is ready, this sin should be outright banned.

 

[Baban]

Yeah bro so divided some guy raises their hands before ruku and the other guy doesn't.

hmm wonder why that is? maybe because they don't trust the fundamental oral traditions that those specific gestures rely upon? some believe muhammad did this, others believe that. jfl at your attempt to undermine these differences. islam is corrupt.

Millions of hadith exist even the most conservative accepts like 10-20%

divided. over for demon-worshippers.

 

[Baban]

'muh muh abrogation' every retard jumps at this.

you've invested so much into this religion that you can't back out and see why people do. you said the quran was perfect, perfection means something that can't be improved upon. if the quran has verses related to not being able to marry muhammad's wives after him or verses that are abrogated that don't apply to a modern muslim, then it's not perfect.

 

[Depresso]

@Baban @StuntmanMike @radicalrationalist @_MVP_ where do you stand on Idolatry and polytheism? I ask because both Muhammad and Abraham abolished those

Defs:

• god - Something worth serving, could be anything, it's a social construct
• God - A proper noun (name), usually for The Creator but could refer to something else in some other religions
• Idolatry - Serving idols which are physical objects / Statues / Physical images of entities
• Polytheism - Serving multiple gods / beings / entities including idols

 

[SecularIslamist]

you've invested so much into this religion that you can't back out and see why people do. you said the quran was perfect, perfection means something that can't be improved upon. if the quran has verses related to not being able to marry muhammad's wives after him or verses that are abrogated that don't apply to a modern muslim, then it's not perfect.

You literally have no idea what I'm talking about. Your understanding of scripture is Reddit level. I'm losing IQ speaking to you. I don't mind speaking about Islam to people who have studied it - but you, who is basically regurgitating Reddit is not worth my time.

 

[Baban]

@Baban where do you stand on Idolatry and polytheism? I ask because both Muhammad and Abraham abolished those

Defs:

• god - Something worth serving, could be anything, it's a social construct
• God - A proper noun (name), usually for The Creator but could refer to something else in some other religions
• Idolatry - Serving idols which are physical objects / Statues / Physical images of entities
• Polytheism - Serving multiple gods / beings / entities including idols

muslims are idolators to this day. muhammad didn't create a new religion. arabic names like abdullah (servant of allah) existed and allah was a deity for the pre-islamic arabs. muslims still continue the pagan ritual of spinning around the black cube, which has now been transformed into a muslim tradition (muhammad had to sign a contract with the pagans to do pilgrimage alongside them).

when it comes to my personal opinion on it, i don't see a problem with it. every religion is pagan, christianity was pagan to the romans at the time for example. idolatry is worshiping what the idol represents, not the object itself. idk. i didn't really understand ur question ngl.

 

[Baban]

You literally have no idea what I'm talking about. Your understanding of scripture is Reddit level. I'm losing IQ speaking to you. I don't mind speaking about Islam to people who have studied it - but you, who is basically regurgitating Reddit is not worth my time.

jfl i don't need to study your sand religion in detail to know whether it's true or not. I've already wasted 5 years of my life on it. do you do the same for christianity? judaism? buddhism? hinduism? etc. they have apologists just like you who do extreme mental gymnastics about verses in the old testament regarding stoning a woman who doesn't bleed during consummation for example. no, you look at that and say that's stupid af.

 

[SecularIslamist]

jfl i don't need to study your sand religion in detail to know whether it's true or not. I've already wasted 5 years of my life on it.

Haha Muslims gave you PTSD alhamdulillah hahaha

do you do the same for christianity? judaism? buddhism? hinduism? etc. they have apologists just like you who do extreme mental gymnastics about verses in the old testament regarding stoning a woman who doesn't bleed during consummation for example. no, you look at that and say that's stupid af.

Christians admit their scriptures are heavily tainted anyway. It's the reason why Islam exists and is in real terms literally the last serious religion.

Keep crying.

 

[Depresso]

muslims are idolators to this day. muhammad didn't create a new religion. arabic names like abdullah (servant of allah) existed and allah was a deity for the pre-islamic arabs. muslims still continue the pagan ritual of spinning around the black cube, which has now been transformed into a muslim tradition (muhammad had to sign a contract with the pagans to do pilgrimage alongside them).

when it comes to my personal opinion on it, i don't see a problem with it. every religion is pagan, christianity was pagan to the romans at the time for example. idolatry is worshiping what the idol represents, not the object itself. idk. i didn't really understand ur question ngl.

What about gods? Should there be gods at all? How do you decide which gods to worship both personally and in groups?

Paganism/heathenism is ethno-religion, it's following the religion you found your people upon without questioning it. Islam and Christianity are not paganisms because they tend to be proselytizing religions

 

[Baban]

Haha Muslims gave you PTSD alhamdulillah hahaha

already redpilled at least 5 of my friends into leaving ur sandnigger religion. cope.

Christians admit their scriptures are heavily tainted anyway. It's the reason why Islam exists and is in real terms literally the last serious religion.

surely not all christians admit that their scriptures are tainted, what if they're right. maybe you should study christianity in detail?

 

[Baban]

What about gods? Should there be gods at all? How do you decide which gods to worship both personally and in groups?

humans are going to be spiritual no matter what. at some point people looked up at the sun, the sky etc., and lived happily together. religions like christianity radically transformed the barbaric roman rituals for example, but it's not perfect and can be improved upon.

 

[MaghrebGator]

muslims are idolators to this day. muhammad didn't create a new religion. arabic names like abdullah (servant of allah) existed and allah was a deity for the pre-islamic arabs. muslims still continue the pagan ritual of spinning around the black cube, which has now been transformed into a muslim tradition (muhammad had to sign a contract with the pagans to do pilgrimage alongside them).

when it comes to my personal opinion on it, i don't see a problem with it. every religion is pagan, christianity was pagan to the romans at the time for example. idolatry is worshiping what the idol represents, not the object itself. idk. i didn't really understand ur question ngl.

Another dumb argument. Jesus (Peace and Blessings be upon him) called God "Alaha" in Aramaic. The hebrew prophets said "Elohim" which roots from the same word.

Allah comes from the word "Al-Ilah" which means The God. It is true that the arabs had an idol called Allah, but it has the same relevance as christians worshipping a statue of Jesus for example. They basically had an idol of "The God" and worshiped it, and they adhered him to the moon also.

Saying Islam has idol worshipping because of this demonstrates the level of your lack of knowledge on definitions and comes from anti Islam book 101. It's no different than saying that Messi played for Madrid. It's like if the word Mutombo meant God and you try to say "B-b-b X worshipped Mutombo so they must be pagan and copied Y tribe", like yeah, they would have copied them if they also worshipped the same idol and statue instead of destroying it, and if they gave him the exact same attributes instead of completely different ones.

Also the argument of the treaty for the muslims to be allowed to worship around the Kaabah is another proof of weak mindedness, afterwards you probably will say "B-b-b-but muslims violent they conquered arabia poor polytheists" but completely skip how the Prophet tried to make treaties for peace. Same as the "Muh every religion is considered pagan", so what?? We dominate now and our religion is the one that defines who is a pagan and who is not, and we believe it is based on objevtive truth (Look out for the megathread for proof of Islam in Ramadan, Insha Allah)

 

[SecularIslamist]

already redpilled at least 5 of my friends into leaving ur sandnigger religion. cope.

I'm sure they will come out gay too. That's the logical outcome of the conveyor belt of modernity.

surely not all christians admit that their scriptures are tainted, what if they're right. maybe you should study christianity in detail?

The amount of Christians who really believe in the infallibility of the New Testament (nvm old) and apply it in their daily lives as a consequence is small.

Just look at @Eternal_ whining about how lost Christians are everyday.

 

[Baban]

Allah comes from the word "Al-Ilah" which means The God. It is true that the arabs had an idol called Allah, but it has the same relevance as christians worshipping a statue of Jesus for example. They basically had an idol of "The God" and worshiped it, and they adhered him to the moon also.

what's your point? also i recommend you read about the satanic verses. "Have you thought of al-Lāt and al-'Uzzá? And about the third one, Manāt?"

here's a good video

 

[Baban]

I'm sure they will come out gay too. That's the logical outcome of the conveyor belt of modernity.

The amount of Christians who really believe in the infallibility of the New Testament (nvm old) and apply it in their daily lives as a consequence is small.

Just look at @Eternal_ whining about how lost Christians are everyday.

raping kids is fine but being gay. OH NOOO.

The amount of Christians who really believe in the infallibility of the New Testament (nvm old) and apply it in their daily lives as a consequence is small.

christianity is one example. jews are adamant on their beliefs about goyim etc. go listen to them as well, they might be right.

 

[SecularIslamist]

raping kids is fine but being gay. OH NOOO.

Raping is haram just kys nigger. You can't even see your own cognitive dissonance when you would criticise Islam for stoning rapists and at the same time say we love to rape.

christianity is one example. jews are adamant on their beliefs about goyim etc. go listen to them as well, they might be right.

Bruh Tel Aviv is full of secular homos.

 

[john2]

I hate Islam with a passion too.

 

[Ritalincel]

 

[Baban]

Raping is haram just kys nigger.

Tell me why a captive woman who was just with her husband a day before consent to sex with barbaric invaders? https://sunnah.com/muslim:1456d

Explain to me how a 9 year old kid consents to sex.

Bruh Tel Aviv is full of secular homos.

I'm not talking about them

 

[MaghrebGator]

what's your point? also i recommend you read about the satanic verses. "Have you thought of al-Lāt and al-'Uzzá? And about the third one, Manāt?"

here's a good video

Man, all the anti islam apologist verses i either have entire essays written debunking them from gathering information or at the very least i have come accross them and heard them being addressed. You are never going to recommend me something that i have never crossed upon.

The hadith of the Al Lat Wal Uzza verse is known to have a da'if (Weak) chain of narration, that is to begin with. And even in the case the reports was authentic, for argument sake (Which it was not because of the weak isnaad), it would be understood as if Shaytan made the polytheists hear the words. But again, we are arguing in an empty vessel because the hadith is weak as stated. And you are just exposing the weakness of the foundations of your own beliefs to begin with. For once, you say you are an atheist, but then claim that the Prophet had some sort of contact with Shaytan, which you don't believe in to begin with, as a justification for your lack of belief in Islam.

Just recognize you have something emotional going on with Islam or trace it back somewhere, maybe some muslim mistreated you or insulted you, maybe you didn't like to go to the mosque as a child, etc, but don't act as if you truly disbelieve in Islam because of evidence and not because of deep psychological scars.

 

[coisbhai]

Fucking curries and that shitskin anatolian destroyed my thread

You’re a nobody, this isn’t your thread

The only reason this thread keeps bumping is because you were seething about Islam

 

[MaghrebGator]

You’re a nobody, this isn’t your thread

The only reason this thread keeps bumping is because you were seething about Islam

The only true "blackpill" i have ever witnessed being said in .org history.

 

[coisbhai]

The only true "blackpill" i have ever witnessed being said in .org history.

Ly Bhai

 

[Baban]

Man, all the anti islam apologist verses i either have entire essays written debunking them from gathering information or at the very least i have come accross them and heard them being addressed. You are never going to recommend me something that i have never crossed upon.

The hadith of the Al Lat Wal Uzza verse is known to have a da'if (Weak) chain of narration, that is to begin with. And even in the case the reports was authentic, for argument sake (Which it was not because of the weak isnaad), it would be understood as if Shaytan made the polytheists hear the words. But again, we are arguing in an empty vessel because the hadith is weak as stated. And you are just exposing the weakness of the foundations of your own beliefs to begin with. For once, you say you are an atheist, but then claim that the Prophet had some sort of contact with Shaytan, which you don't believe in to begin with, as a justification for your lack of belief in Islam.

Just recognize you have something emotional going on with Islam or trace it back somewhere, maybe some muslim mistreated you or insulted you, maybe you didn't like to go to the mosque as a child, etc, but don't act as if you truly disbelieve in Islam because of evidence and not because of deep psychological scars.

Watch the video.

 

[Deleted member 18522]

Islam fundamentalism is a CIA hybrid war op to prevent socialism or even just nationalistic modernized governments from flourishing in the middle east to secure their Oil interests in the region

legit tbh

 

[SecularIslamist]

Just recognize you have something emotional going on with Islam or trace it back somewhere, maybe some muslim mistreated you or insulted you, maybe you didn't like to go to the mosque as a child, etc, but don't act as if you truly disbelieve in Islam because of evidence and not because of deep psychological scars.

This is like 99% of "ex-Muslims". I spoke to someone many of them on r/exMuslims back in the days. They came from troubled families and abusive parents who I suspect were pious but low IQ. Most of their criticism of Islam went hand in hand with their experiences growing up with their "controlling" families. Ofc some of them were blunt and just wanted to partake in degeneracy and fuck white women too. I'm sure they realised it wasn't religion holding them back, but their ethnic background and pheno.

Hardly any of them of them had any understanding of theology or the shari'ah. Those who were and left Islam for what I would say genuine secular reasons, were almost always influenced by orientalist scholars of Islam like Bernard Lewis and Patricia Crone. They would often acknowledge Islam was the better for humanity relative to Christianity. I had respect for these guys because although they were murtad they were more respectable and weren't the type "muh muh Aisha / sex slaves / verse 4:34 etc etc"..

 

[Fiqh]

You're not gonna get this bullshit neo-nazism fantasy. The true silver bullet is more Islam not more more nationalism. Everyone knows Islam is the only credible threat to globohomo monoculture.


Because that literally is you moron. Some things are taken literally others aren't. Ofc a retarded Athari Salafi thinks that God literally has hands and feet, because like you they interpret the Qur'an and hadiths like this:

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@Fiqh

Kindly elaborate

 

[Deleted member 46979]

nothing to elaborate upon. it's pure cope. globalism isn't globalism bro. also, globalism is good. but sharia only!

 

[yeeyeeslayer]

This is like 99% of "ex-Muslims". I spoke to someone many of them on r/exMuslims back in the days. They came from troubled families and abusive parents who I suspect were pious but low IQ. Most of their criticism of Islam went hand in hand with their experiences growing up with their "controlling" families. Ofc some of them were blunt and just wanted to partake in degeneracy and fuck white women too. I'm sure they realised it wasn't religion holding them back, but their ethnic background and pheno.

Hardly any of them of them had any understanding of theology or the shari'ah. Those who were and left Islam for what I would say genuine secular reasons, were almost always influenced by orientalist scholars of Islam like Bernard Lewis and Patricia Crone. They would often acknowledge Islam was the better for humanity relative to Christianity. I had respect for these guys because although they were murtad they were more respectable and weren't the type "muh muh Aisha / sex slaves / verse 4:34 etc etc"..

Most ex Muslims are just coping with being abused dogs in childhood

 

[Mosh12]

Islam mogs Christianity

 

[Deleted member 58230]

Do you support Curry men and Bosniak women marriage ?
I don't.It is a huge loss for Bosniak comunity,their races and cultures.
If you support this marriage then you are in the same side with jews.
That proves me islam is pure globalist religion

So you are basically crying about the fact that shit skins are taking your women away and they are not giving you enough attention Cry more nigga

 

[IndraBC]

Millions of hadith exist even the most conservative accepts like 10-20%

That isn’t true. The only people who disregard most if not all ahadith are Quranists.

Otherwise the majority of Muslims accept a Hadith as long as it’s sahih/Hasan which is most Hadith.

 

[CFW432]

I am not kemalist you shitskin orospu çocuğu seni.I hate all things which is associated with Globalism including Secularism,Islam and even Kemalism.

Secularism,Islam and even Kemalism.

Nigga wtf r u even then lol?

 

[Sanguinius]

All muslims are shitskin.If you are not shitskin there is no reason to be a mudslim.Mudslimes are more globalist and liberal than average american libtards.Even niggas pass as human in pisslam what kind of shitty religion is that

Caging so hard at the content on this forum

 

[Deleted member 51576]

Islam mogs Christianity

Jew vouching for Islam.

 

[arab_chink]

Muh Sharia Muh curry men can take MENA women fuck off niggers fuck that shitty globalist race mixing supporter shitskin religion.

Y’know if you support the blackpill, you also support Muslims, js

 

[StuntmanMike]

Nigga wtf r u even then lol?

Anti-Globalist.Both Kemalism and Islam are globalist things.

 

[Deleted member 51576]

Death to Islam

 

[ka_cnt]

Shut your mouth

 

[ka_cnt]

Death to Islam

L claim

 

[Navnith]

subhumans