Pro Social Drugs: A guide to using substances to climb the social ladder

[Cope]

I tried Lisuride last week, it's one of the safest and most potent dopamine agonist. Literally felt nothing from it, even in higher doses.

Same experience, all I got was really nauseous

 

[Renaissance.Chad]

Same experience, all I got was really nauseous

any idea why?

 

[Deleted member 1849]

The muh serotonin is bad is a meme. I know I put you onto the Ray Peat stuff but a lot of the advice should be taken with a heavy grain of salt. I took Cypro and Mirtazapine for several months and I think that's what attributed to my increased anxiety. All this shit is too complicated to think that taking A will result in B. Also SSRIs increase BDNF expression. I've never taken a 5ar inhibitor and progesterone had no noticeable effect on me. Be careful with Pansterone, it will eventually convert into corticosterone and estrone.

Gotcha.

Pansterone should be fine in low doses using some sort of DHT precursor or AI. But yeah

 

[Cope]

any idea why?

Not sure, it is still a partial agonist for several serotonin receptors so that may be why. Metergoline might be a better option, but its D2 agonism is much weaker.

Gotcha.

Pansterone should be fine in low doses using some sort of DHT precursor or AI. But yeah

Yea, keep an AI on deck and try to cortisolmin. It doesn't even have to be something potent like Aromasin either.

 

[Deleted member 15305]

@badg96

 

[AscendingHero]

it'd get your test levels to around 1250-1400ng/dl. Which is absurdly high, but the downside is that the active metabolite zu

clomifene will significantly upregulate one's HPTA and gonadotropins, but it'll also act estrogenically within the liver, in turn downregulating IGF-1 synthesis and increasing SHBG.

@Bitchwhipper2 It's over, clomid is cope. More Plates More dates had an excellent video on it too.

 

[Deleted member 8988]

the non psychoactive type of cannabis, hemp ( high CBD ), significantly reduces autism traits:

Here we report an observational study with a cohort of 18 autistic patients undergoing treatment with compassionate use of standardized CBD-enriched CE (with a CBD to THC ratio of 75/1). Among the 15 patients who adhered to the treatment (10 non-epileptic and five epileptic) only one patient showed lack of improvement in autistic symptoms. Due to adverse effects, three patients discontinued CE use before 1 month. After 6–9 months of treatment, most patients, including epileptic and non-epileptic, showed some level of improvement in more than one of the eight symptom categories evaluated: Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder; Behavioral Disorders; Motor Deficits; Autonomy Deficits; Communication and Social Interaction Deficits; Cognitive Deficits; Sleep Disorders and Seizures, with very infrequent and mild adverse effects. The strongest improvements were reported for Seizures, Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder, Sleep Disorders, and Communication and Social Interaction Deficits.

Effects of CBD-Enriched Cannabis sativa Extract on Autism Spectrum Disorder Symptoms: An Observational Study of 18 Participants Undergoing Compassionate Use

Autism Spectrum Disorders comprise conditions that may affect cognitive development, motor skills, social interaction, communication, and behavior. This set of functional deficits often results in lack of independence for the diagnosed individuals, and ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

gigalifefuel

 

[Deleted member 15827]

Promising start devolved into shittier advice than even the most deranged schizo here would give. Avoid.

 

[Deleted member 3853]

Dn rd

 

[Seth Walsh]

Androsterone
11-KDHT
Pansterone
Cyproheptadine
Lisuride
Bromocriptine
Mr. Happy Stack
Clonidine
Stresam
Afobazol
Tofisopam
Memantine

All these drugs mog the one's OP listed. I study this shit on a regular basis, I'm gonna to cure mentalceldom once and for all while living life in a perpetual state of high dopamine, androgens, and GABA running through my CNS. You will be forever mirin' my god tier brain chemistry. Also everything I listed has a low propensity toward tolerance so you won't have to worry about being a fucking junkie.

On clonidine rn

And bromantane, pregabalin

 

[Cope]

On clonidine rn

And bromantane, pregabalin

Yeah I'm on Lyrica too, Clonidine gave me hypotension. What's Bromantane like? It acts on GABA and dopamine but works like a classical stimulant?

 

[Seth Walsh]

Yeah I'm on Lyrica too, Clonidine gave me hypotension. What's Bromantane like? It acts on GABA and dopamine but works like a classical stimulant?

Doesn’t feel anything like Ritalin/adderall but definitely gives you that push. Found it helped me get stronger in the gym and more motivated. Made me more sensitive to caffeine in a good way. Sort of upregulated my pleasure response and made me stay more resilient. I know it increases TH gene expression so there should be more dopamine synthesis but I really didn’t feel much of the “stim/dopaminergic” effect. Definitely increases physical energy but it feels more restorative than depleting. I think it’ll stack well with the clonidine. Only been taking clonidine for 2 days now.

Couldn’t really notice gabaergic effects from it because I was taking Lyrica the whole time too. 20-50mg bromantane sublingually is enough. Doesn’t help with ADHD. Really just helps with bumping up motivation and physical energy without ramping up sympathetic drive to the degree classical stims do.

Great PED tbh. I can crush a massive workout with just a monster drink + bromantane on an empty stomach. Also helps you keep energy levels while eating a lot less, not that it blunts appetite or anything but it just gives you that subtle physical and mental push.

 

[Seth Walsh]

Doesn’t feel anything like Ritalin/adderall but definitely gives you that push. Found it helped my get stronger in the gym and more motivated. Made me more sensitive to caffeine in a good way. Sort of upregulated my pleasure response and made me stay more resilient. I know it increases TH gene expression so there should be more dopamine synthesis but I really didn’t feel much of the “stim/dopaminergic” effect. Definitely increases physical energy but it feels more restorative than depleting. I think it’ll stack well with the clonidine. Only been taking clonidine for 2 days now.

Couldn’t really notice gabaergic effects from it because I was taking Lyrica the whole time too. 20-50mg bromantane sublingually is enough. Doesn’t help with ADHD. Really just helps with bumping up motivation and physical energy without ramping up sympathetic drive to the degree classical stims do.

Great PED tbh. I can crush a massive workout with just a monster drink + bromantane on an empty stomach. Also helps you keep energy levels while eating a lot less, not that it blunts appetite or anything but it just gives you that subtle physical and mental push.

Bromantane was originally created as an “anti-asthenic” as far as I remember. Not sure what the MOA is, but anecdotally I definitely notice I keep muscle on it when eating far below maintenance.

I think it’s just allowed me to push workouts harder while cutting.

 

[Cope]

Doesn’t feel anything like Ritalin/adderall but definitely gives you that push. Found it helped me get stronger in the gym and more motivated. Made me more sensitive to caffeine in a good way. Sort of upregulated my pleasure response and made me stay more resilient. I know it increases TH gene expression so there should be more dopamine synthesis but I really didn’t feel much of the “stim/dopaminergic” effect. Definitely increases physical energy but it feels more restorative than depleting. I think it’ll stack well with the clonidine. Only been taking clonidine for 2 days now.

Couldn’t really notice gabaergic effects from it because I was taking Lyrica the whole time too. 20-50mg bromantane sublingually is enough. Doesn’t help with ADHD. Really just helps with bumping up motivation and physical energy without ramping up sympathetic drive to the degree classical stims do.

Great PED tbh. I can crush a massive workout with just a monster drink + bromantane on an empty stomach. Also helps you keep energy levels while eating a lot less, not that it blunts appetite or anything but it just gives you that subtle physical and mental push.

Bromantane was originally created as an “anti-asthenic” as far as I remember. Not sure what the MOA is, but anecdotally I definitely notice I keep muscle on it when eating far below maintenance.

I think it’s just allowed me to push workouts harder while cutting.

That sounds pretty awesome, doesn't seem to be too noradrenergic then. I'm guessing it inhibits prolactin efficiently as well.

 

[Seth Walsh]

That sounds pretty awesome, doesn't seem to be too noradrenergic then. I'm guessing it inhibits prolactin efficiently as well.

Imo it’s the best thing around for lowering prolactin!

 

[Britmaxxer]

abusing modafinil will make you schizo and give you insomnia. happened to me when I took 100mg(minimum, some days much more) daily for 3 months. I think it permanently fucked me at least a bit.

 

[𝐀𝐬𝐬𝐲𝐫𝐢𝐚𝐧 𝐖𝐚𝐫𝐫𝐢𝐨𝐫]

abusing modafinil will make you schizo and give you insomnia. happened to me when I took 100mg(minimum, some days much more) daily for 3 months. I think it permanently fucked me at least a bit.

Wow nice insight
Tbh mental drugs are a no no
No I get why alot of people who used anti depressants and adhd meds
Stopped taking it once they got in a semi ok situation and won't take it even if it made a positive difference

 

[Britmaxxer]

Wow nice insight
Tbh mental drugs are a no no
No I get why alot of people who used anti depressants and adhd meds
Stopped taking it once they got in a semi ok situation and won't take it even if it made a positive difference

yeah. I did a lot of drugs over lock down due to environment. now my life is back onto a better path and not in chaos I feel no need to do that anymore.

 

[𝐀𝐬𝐬𝐲𝐫𝐢𝐚𝐧 𝐖𝐚𝐫𝐫𝐢𝐨𝐫]

yeah. I did a lot of drugs over lock down due to environment. now my life is back onto a better path and not in chaos I feel no need to do that anymore.

Yeah thought of using a stim like vyanse
But I don't want to risk my brain
If my brain chemistry changed forever I will be in a loop hole of feeling alienated from my past self and things I do and like and my thought and way of processes


Thanks your insight bruv

 

[Britmaxxer]

Yeah thought of using a stim like vyanse
But I don't want to risk my brain
If my brain chemistry changed forever I will be in a loop hole of feeling alienated from my past self and things I do and like and my thought and way of processes


Thanks your insight bruv

its fine to do stims or other drugs very occasionally. but dont get into a routine of using them. a single use of vyvanse will only be good. modafinil was extremely helpful for exams.

when you start using it as a crutch to do work, or socialise (It got to the point where I couldnt socialise without modafinil or alcohol) then there is a big problem, you are taking steps backward.

I am now trying to avoid all such things but it is difficult, especially at a university filled with partying normies.

 

[𝐀𝐬𝐬𝐲𝐫𝐢𝐚𝐧 𝐖𝐚𝐫𝐫𝐢𝐨𝐫]

its fine to do stims or other drugs very occasionally. but dont get into a routine of using them. a single use of vyvanse will only be good. modafinil was extremely helpful for exams.

when you start using it as a crutch to do work, or socialise (It got to the point where I couldnt socialise without modafinil or alcohol) then there is a big problem, you are taking steps backward.

I am now trying to avoid all such things but it is difficult, especially at a university filled with partying normies.

Hmmmm wonder why....

A rule of thumb is use stims only when you are so fucked you need exogenous energy to get your shit together

 

[Deleted member 18159]

Lexapro + Wellbutrin changed my life

 

[Deleted member 19066]

Quality thread, but just one thing to say, DXM is a dissociative and can give you mild-severe brain damage please do take care if you plan to take any amount even if its small, damage can be really bad.

 

[osiris35]

Doesn’t feel anything like Ritalin/adderall but definitely gives you that push. Found it helped me get stronger in the gym and more motivated. Made me more sensitive to caffeine in a good way. Sort of upregulated my pleasure response and made me stay more resilient. I know it increases TH gene expression so there should be more dopamine synthesis but I really didn’t feel much of the “stim/dopaminergic” effect. Definitely increases physical energy but it feels more restorative than depleting. I think it’ll stack well with the clonidine. Only been taking clonidine for 2 days now.

Couldn’t really notice gabaergic effects from it because I was taking Lyrica the whole time too. 20-50mg bromantane sublingually is enough. Doesn’t help with ADHD. Really just helps with bumping up motivation and physical energy without ramping up sympathetic drive to the degree classical stims do.

Great PED tbh. I can crush a massive workout with just a monster drink + bromantane on an empty stomach. Also helps you keep energy levels while eating a lot less, not that it blunts appetite or anything but it just gives you that subtle physical and mental push.

be careful with pregabalin. i used to live with a lyrica addict and sometimes he was taking 14+ pills. Sometimes he was pausing taking it for a few days and he was not going out from his room and bed.

I am taking pregabalin someting like twice a month only when i know i will go somewhere that i can talk to girls or when i was feeling so sad alone in home during weekends. Plus i am using a local drug that contains pregabalin and accorsing to my old roommate it is better than the original lyrica for bad feelings after taking it.

I rarely tried medical pills aka legal dopes.

 

[Deleted member 19865]

Caffeine is the most widely used drug on the planet. It is dopaminergic,

Caffeine's dopaminergic properties are so marginal that it's not even worth mentioning.

When it comes to actually dopaminergic substances such as dopamine releasing agents and DRIs, their effects on social abilities are not always positive. They usually cause one to be more driven, but also can have a blunting effect on personality and make one more irritable and less empathetic.

Sedatives can help in communication and lowering inhibition. They are very addictive

Understatement of the century. Gabaergic sedatives can not only lower inhibitions, they can erase them completely and lead to one doing insanely retarded things. They also cause significant impairment of judgement and mental acuity. A person on a high dose of xanax will give zero fucks but will also be boarderline retarded while they're on it.
Also most sedatives will accutely annihilate your memory so you won't be able to learn anything, you'll just be fucked up.

And yes, they are very, very addictive, and can completely fuck up one's life.

Kind of mistakes people make on sedatives:

• Crash your car
• Accidentally leave the stove on and burn your house down
• Spill drinks
• down a whole bottle of booze, pass out, and die from drowning in your own vomit
• tell your friends your darkest secrets
• argue with your family
• drain your bank account on worthless trash and forget you did so until it's too late
• flip off a cop

Oh also sedatives tend to erase your sex drive, especially long term, so if you're taking them to talk to girls, you won't be for long since you won't care about getting laid after a week long sedative binge. All you'll care about is getting more sedatives.

 

[gribsufer1]

wb taking L tyrosine and gaba

 

[lilhorizontal32]

Androsterone
11-KDHT
Pansterone
Cyproheptadine
Lisuride
Bromocriptine
Mr. Happy Stack
Clonidine
Stresam
Afobazol
Tofisopam
Memantine

All these drugs mog the one's OP listed. I study this shit on a regular basis, I'm gonna to cure mentalceldom once and for all while living life in a perpetual state of high dopamine, androgens, and GABA running through my CNS. You will be forever mirin' my god tier brain chemistry. Also everything I listed has a low propensity toward tolerance so you won't have to worry about being a fucking junkie.

Bump

 

[nevermind2]

Disclaimer
In no way am I claiming to have a complete knowledge of the subject, nor have I tried all of the substances listed. I am however, a loser who reads studies and likes to write research papers. I didn't proof read this, so it may be a little choppy at times. Please use cation when trying any drug.

Preface
Bold and underlined text refers to a new chapter, if you will. Bold and italicized indicates that it’s a subheading. I have inserted links to studies and academic papers throughout the guide. You can skip to the drugs category if you don't want to read much or already have a general idea of the social hierarchy.

Defining Status
To discuss compounds that enhance your status, we first must define what constitutes for one.
Status is the basic hierarchy structure that is observable in all species through all of history. It is the way that your peers interpret and respect you. In some ways, it can be considered the abstract manifestation of God. The primary goal of life is reaching a higher social status so you can reproduce with the best mate. Most people do not know this. Almost all actions are an attempt at gaining status.

Causes of Status
Status can have many causes. It can be from the way you treat people and your outward appearance. Since this guide , I'll be discussing the chemicals that contribute to the hierarchy.​

Serotonin
Serotonin has long been thought of as the chemical responsible for happiness, but this may not be true. Regardless, it has been linked to dominance and cooperation. This seems a bit paradoxical, but at the end of the day, those who can raise themselves to the top and justly distribute will always be leaders. This is why tyrants are generally not viewed as being on the top of the hierarchy, despite being on top at the surface level.
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Dopamine
Dopamine, probably my favorite neurotransmitters. It is also heavily linked to motivation. Additionally, dopamine has been shown to increase income in stock traders. Wealth itself is one of the basic building blocks of status, but dopamine alone is correlated with high social status.

Androgens
Androgens are the male sex hormones. The two most notable are testosterone and dht. Androgens up regulate the desire for greater social status. They also are correlated with offspring, the ultimate goal of social landscape. Androgens also have effects on neurotransmitters. High levels of androgens increase dopamine. Similarly, they increase serotonin, at least in transgender people. I like androgens the most of all of them because of their sexually dimorphic and anabolic effects along with heightened libido, aggression, and sense of well-being
.

The Drugs
I will be dividing the different drugs into a couple of categories so that it is easier to find what you are looking for. I skipped a few like neurogenesis agents since they aren't directly pro social.​

Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors
Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors, SSRIs, are the most common class of antidepressants. They are so common in fact, that they are prescribed to around 10% of the American population. Having been on antidepressants since I was 5, coming up on a decade of use, I can tell you that they aren't optimal. If you are focusing on serotonin, skip to the psychedelics or androgens category. If you feel the need to take an SSRI, I'd recommend taking Bupropion, a dopamine reuptake inhibitor, to minimize the side effects.
Dopaminergic Agents
On to the fun stuff. Dopamine enhancing drugs are great for motivation, energy, cognitive power, and mood. Many dopamine related compounds come with a risk for addiction. Think cocaine and Adderal. Both of which will boost productivity, but because of the addictive properties, I cannot recommend them. Certain compounds don't come with a risk of addiction though. Caffeine is the most widely used drug on the planet. It is dopaminergic, but also one of the safest drugs available. Modafinil, the classic smart pill. While dopamine isn't the only factor, it does play an important role. I would consider Modafnil the perfect drugs due to its low addictive potential and pro cognitive functions. Personally, I notice positive changes in mood and outlook, better focus, and more extroversion. One problem with Modafinil is that it is a regulated substance, though it has a very low penalty. Regardless it is readily available online. I've used Adrafinil, a precursor to Modafinil, which is not regulated. Some claim that Modafinil can build tolerance, but that is yet to be proven in clinical studies. Bupropion is also good alternative.
Anabolic Androgens and other Hormonal Regulators
As mentioned in the Androgen section, androgens have a positive effect on social status. The best steroid to take is testosterone, simply because it has the most clinical data behind it. Most AAS and SARMs have effects on mood, so it doesn’t really matter. Technically, they are illegal. Many police are on steroids, so you usually won't get arrested. If you are still in puberty DO NOT take AAS or SARMs unless you have a very heavy knowledge on PEDs. You could get a masculinized face and frame, but you could also ruin your fertility and permanently lower you testosterone if used incorrectly, which most people do. Proviron is an exception, it still has effects on mood, but may improve fertility in normal doses. If you are a teen or just want to preserve fertility, clomid/enclomid is much safer, but still has side effects and anecdotal reports doesn't work as well on mood. HCG and aromatase inhibitors are also safer options. Although HCG can also reduce natural testosterone.
Psychedelics
The use of psychedelics is controversial to say the least. They were originally studied for their use in neurological disorders, but were taken out of the medical setting by hippies, who got them banned, even in research. Despite the 40 year halt, a recent interest in psychedelics as medicine has emerged. There have been more studies in the last decade, specifically on psilocybin, or mushrooms. These fungi have been shown to fix almost all mental disorders, including anxiety, depression, OCD, and addiction. Psychedelics also benefit extraversion and openness, both of which are key in building status. Supposedly, they are very common within upper class businessmen. Psychedelics are also very illegal. They are a class 1 substance, the same as heroin and meth. Despite having a negative impact on addiction, these drugs are classed with the most addictive substances. To get around this, you can extract DMT and LSA from certain legal plants and seeds. I won't get into this for legal reasons, but the information is readily available online. You can use DXM, cough syrup, but it does have addictive potential and usually has compounds that are very dangerous in high quantities. All of these compounds have the advantage of only having to take the once every few months. I'd just do an LSA or DMT extraction.
Sedatives
Sedatives can help in communication and lowering inhibition. They are very addictive and could have brain damaging effects. If you have to, these drugs include alcohol, phenibut, weed, codeine, kratom, ketamine, tianeptine, ect. Don't use them, except maybe occasionally alcohol.

TLDR
Take testosterone, modafinil, and psychedelics. Instead of testosterone, take clomid, hcg or Proviron, if you are in puberty. Feel free to ask any questions.

I can rep for LSA. I only did it a few times but LSA makes me more open to talk to others and open up for days after. Alcohol pheni lyrica and such surely work too but it doesnt feel so good as it kinda forces you + its probably a recipe for disaster long term while LSA gives me complete peace in body and mind. Before I thought Pheni and shit was good but after lsa i know how much more real peace feels not just lower some inhibitions and make you stupid. Also helps you find out stuff about yourself and I think it helped my bdd too. The con is the body load and nausea for the trip duration. I wanna try LSD but it is not as euphoric. I think psychedelic is the best substance i tried so far for becoming more social and more NT extroverted. Few days after LSA I went to a bar with some guy of my dorm after randomly talking for a bit which i never did before and would have been giga scared of like I woiuldnt have talked with him in the first place / let the conversation die ( I havent talked to a stranger more than 10 words in half a year jfl). I hope I can further socialmaxx maybe also try microdose and become less akward with help of this (its cope probably anyway as nt is genetic but worth a try).

 

[nevermind2]

abusing modafinil will make you schizo and give you insomnia. happened to me when I took 100mg(minimum, some days much more) daily for 3 months. I think it permanently fucked me at least a bit.

after 5 days my heart goes weird i think it kinda stacks so can fuck you up without pauses better do a 5/2 and sometimes whole weeks off. After I just did 10 days in a row i felt kinda fucked.

 

[GnomePilledSigma]

Disclaimer
In no way am I claiming to have a complete knowledge of the subject, nor have I tried all of the substances listed. I am however, a loser who reads studies and likes to write research papers. I didn't proof read this, so it may be a little choppy at times. Please use cation when trying any drug.

Preface
Bold and underlined text refers to a new chapter, if you will. Bold and italicized indicates that it’s a subheading. I have inserted links to studies and academic papers throughout the guide. You can skip to the drugs category if you don't want to read much or already have a general idea of the social hierarchy.

Defining Status
To discuss compounds that enhance your status, we first must define what constitutes for one.
Status is the basic hierarchy structure that is observable in all species through all of history. It is the way that your peers interpret and respect you. In some ways, it can be considered the abstract manifestation of God. The primary goal of life is reaching a higher social status so you can reproduce with the best mate. Most people do not know this. Almost all actions are an attempt at gaining status.

Causes of Status
Status can have many causes. It can be from the way you treat people and your outward appearance. Since this guide , I'll be discussing the chemicals that contribute to the hierarchy.​

Serotonin
Serotonin has long been thought of as the chemical responsible for happiness, but this may not be true. Regardless, it has been linked to dominance and cooperation. This seems a bit paradoxical, but at the end of the day, those who can raise themselves to the top and justly distribute will always be leaders. This is why tyrants are generally not viewed as being on the top of the hierarchy, despite being on top at the surface level.
View attachment 440283
Dopamine
Dopamine, probably my favorite neurotransmitters. It is also heavily linked to motivation. Additionally, dopamine has been shown to increase income in stock traders. Wealth itself is one of the basic building blocks of status, but dopamine alone is correlated with high social status.

Androgens
Androgens are the male sex hormones. The two most notable are testosterone and dht. Androgens up regulate the desire for greater social status. They also are correlated with offspring, the ultimate goal of social landscape. Androgens also have effects on neurotransmitters. High levels of androgens increase dopamine. Similarly, they increase serotonin, at least in transgender people. I like androgens the most of all of them because of their sexually dimorphic and anabolic effects along with heightened libido, aggression, and sense of well-being
.

The Drugs
I will be dividing the different drugs into a couple of categories so that it is easier to find what you are looking for. I skipped a few like neurogenesis agents since they aren't directly pro social.​

Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors
Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors, SSRIs, are the most common class of antidepressants. They are so common in fact, that they are prescribed to around 10% of the American population. Having been on antidepressants since I was 5, coming up on a decade of use, I can tell you that they aren't optimal. If you are focusing on serotonin, skip to the psychedelics or androgens category. If you feel the need to take an SSRI, I'd recommend taking Bupropion, a dopamine reuptake inhibitor, to minimize the side effects.
Dopaminergic Agents
On to the fun stuff. Dopamine enhancing drugs are great for motivation, energy, cognitive power, and mood. Many dopamine related compounds come with a risk for addiction. Think cocaine and Adderal. Both of which will boost productivity, but because of the addictive properties, I cannot recommend them. Certain compounds don't come with a risk of addiction though. Caffeine is the most widely used drug on the planet. It is dopaminergic, but also one of the safest drugs available. Modafinil, the classic smart pill. While dopamine isn't the only factor, it does play an important role. I would consider Modafnil the perfect drugs due to its low addictive potential and pro cognitive functions. Personally, I notice positive changes in mood and outlook, better focus, and more extroversion. One problem with Modafinil is that it is a regulated substance, though it has a very low penalty. Regardless it is readily available online. I've used Adrafinil, a precursor to Modafinil, which is not regulated. Some claim that Modafinil can build tolerance, but that is yet to be proven in clinical studies. Bupropion is also good alternative.
Anabolic Androgens and other Hormonal Regulators
As mentioned in the Androgen section, androgens have a positive effect on social status. The best steroid to take is testosterone, simply because it has the most clinical data behind it. Most AAS and SARMs have effects on mood, so it doesn’t really matter. Technically, they are illegal. Many police are on steroids, so you usually won't get arrested. If you are still in puberty DO NOT take AAS or SARMs unless you have a very heavy knowledge on PEDs. You could get a masculinized face and frame, but you could also ruin your fertility and permanently lower you testosterone if used incorrectly, which most people do. Proviron is an exception, it still has effects on mood, but may improve fertility in normal doses. If you are a teen or just want to preserve fertility, clomid/enclomid is much safer, but still has side effects and anecdotal reports doesn't work as well on mood. HCG and aromatase inhibitors are also safer options. Although HCG can also reduce natural testosterone.
Psychedelics
The use of psychedelics is controversial to say the least. They were originally studied for their use in neurological disorders, but were taken out of the medical setting by hippies, who got them banned, even in research. Despite the 40 year halt, a recent interest in psychedelics as medicine has emerged. There have been more studies in the last decade, specifically on psilocybin, or mushrooms. These fungi have been shown to fix almost all mental disorders, including anxiety, depression, OCD, and addiction. Psychedelics also benefit extraversion and openness, both of which are key in building status. Supposedly, they are very common within upper class businessmen. Psychedelics are also very illegal. They are a class 1 substance, the same as heroin and meth. Despite having a negative impact on addiction, these drugs are classed with the most addictive substances. To get around this, you can extract DMT and LSA from certain legal plants and seeds. I won't get into this for legal reasons, but the information is readily available online. You can use DXM, cough syrup, but it does have addictive potential and usually has compounds that are very dangerous in high quantities. All of these compounds have the advantage of only having to take the once every few months. I'd just do an LSA or DMT extraction.
Sedatives
Sedatives can help in communication and lowering inhibition. They are very addictive and could have brain damaging effects. If you have to, these drugs include alcohol, phenibut, weed, codeine, kratom, ketamine, tianeptine, ect. Don't use them, except maybe occasionally alcohol.

TLDR
Take testosterone, modafinil, and psychedelics. Instead of testosterone, take clomid, hcg or Proviron, if you are in puberty. Feel free to ask any questions.

phenibut mogs

 

[Britmaxxer]

after 5 days my heart goes weird i think it kinda stacks so can fuck you up without pauses better do a 5/2 and sometimes whole weeks off. After I just did 10 days in a row i felt kinda fucked.

yeah i rinsed modafinil again recently and it definitely made my heart start feeling weird. a strange uncomfortable feeling. took a break and its gone now.

 

[LongForgotten]

Disclaimer
In no way am I claiming to have a complete knowledge of the subject, nor have I tried all of the substances listed. I am however, a loser who reads studies and likes to write research papers. I didn't proof read this, so it may be a little choppy at times. Please use cation when trying any drug.

Preface
Bold and underlined text refers to a new chapter, if you will. Bold and italicized indicates that it’s a subheading. I have inserted links to studies and academic papers throughout the guide. You can skip to the drugs category if you don't want to read much or already have a general idea of the social hierarchy.

Defining Status
To discuss compounds that enhance your status, we first must define what constitutes for one.
Status is the basic hierarchy structure that is observable in all species through all of history. It is the way that your peers interpret and respect you. In some ways, it can be considered the abstract manifestation of God. The primary goal of life is reaching a higher social status so you can reproduce with the best mate. Most people do not know this. Almost all actions are an attempt at gaining status.

Causes of Status
Status can have many causes. It can be from the way you treat people and your outward appearance. Since this guide , I'll be discussing the chemicals that contribute to the hierarchy.​

Serotonin
Serotonin has long been thought of as the chemical responsible for happiness, but this may not be true. Regardless, it has been linked to dominance and cooperation. This seems a bit paradoxical, but at the end of the day, those who can raise themselves to the top and justly distribute will always be leaders. This is why tyrants are generally not viewed as being on the top of the hierarchy, despite being on top at the surface level.
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Dopamine
Dopamine, probably my favorite neurotransmitters. It is also heavily linked to motivation. Additionally, dopamine has been shown to increase income in stock traders. Wealth itself is one of the basic building blocks of status, but dopamine alone is correlated with high social status.

Androgens
Androgens are the male sex hormones. The two most notable are testosterone and dht. Androgens up regulate the desire for greater social status. They also are correlated with offspring, the ultimate goal of social landscape. Androgens also have effects on neurotransmitters. High levels of androgens increase dopamine. Similarly, they increase serotonin, at least in transgender people. I like androgens the most of all of them because of their sexually dimorphic and anabolic effects along with heightened libido, aggression, and sense of well-being
.

The Drugs
I will be dividing the different drugs into a couple of categories so that it is easier to find what you are looking for. I skipped a few like neurogenesis agents since they aren't directly pro social.​

Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors
Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors, SSRIs, are the most common class of antidepressants. They are so common in fact, that they are prescribed to around 10% of the American population. Having been on antidepressants since I was 5, coming up on a decade of use, I can tell you that they aren't optimal. If you are focusing on serotonin, skip to the psychedelics or androgens category. If you feel the need to take an SSRI, I'd recommend taking Bupropion, a dopamine reuptake inhibitor, to minimize the side effects.
Dopaminergic Agents
On to the fun stuff. Dopamine enhancing drugs are great for motivation, energy, cognitive power, and mood. Many dopamine related compounds come with a risk for addiction. Think cocaine and Adderal. Both of which will boost productivity, but because of the addictive properties, I cannot recommend them. Certain compounds don't come with a risk of addiction though. Caffeine is the most widely used drug on the planet. It is dopaminergic, but also one of the safest drugs available. Modafinil, the classic smart pill. While dopamine isn't the only factor, it does play an important role. I would consider Modafnil the perfect drugs due to its low addictive potential and pro cognitive functions. Personally, I notice positive changes in mood and outlook, better focus, and more extroversion. One problem with Modafinil is that it is a regulated substance, though it has a very low penalty. Regardless it is readily available online. I've used Adrafinil, a precursor to Modafinil, which is not regulated. Some claim that Modafinil can build tolerance, but that is yet to be proven in clinical studies. Bupropion is also good alternative.
Anabolic Androgens and other Hormonal Regulators
As mentioned in the Androgen section, androgens have a positive effect on social status. The best steroid to take is testosterone, simply because it has the most clinical data behind it. Most AAS and SARMs have effects on mood, so it doesn’t really matter. Technically, they are illegal. Many police are on steroids, so you usually won't get arrested. If you are still in puberty DO NOT take AAS or SARMs unless you have a very heavy knowledge on PEDs. You could get a masculinized face and frame, but you could also ruin your fertility and permanently lower you testosterone if used incorrectly, which most people do. Proviron is an exception, it still has effects on mood, but may improve fertility in normal doses. If you are a teen or just want to preserve fertility, clomid/enclomid is much safer, but still has side effects and anecdotal reports doesn't work as well on mood. HCG and aromatase inhibitors are also safer options. Although HCG can also reduce natural testosterone.
Psychedelics
The use of psychedelics is controversial to say the least. They were originally studied for their use in neurological disorders, but were taken out of the medical setting by hippies, who got them banned, even in research. Despite the 40 year halt, a recent interest in psychedelics as medicine has emerged. There have been more studies in the last decade, specifically on psilocybin, or mushrooms. These fungi have been shown to fix almost all mental disorders, including anxiety, depression, OCD, and addiction. Psychedelics also benefit extraversion and openness, both of which are key in building status. Supposedly, they are very common within upper class businessmen. Psychedelics are also very illegal. They are a class 1 substance, the same as heroin and meth. Despite having a negative impact on addiction, these drugs are classed with the most addictive substances. To get around this, you can extract DMT and LSA from certain legal plants and seeds. I won't get into this for legal reasons, but the information is readily available online. You can use DXM, cough syrup, but it does have addictive potential and usually has compounds that are very dangerous in high quantities. All of these compounds have the advantage of only having to take the once every few months. I'd just do an LSA or DMT extraction.
Sedatives
Sedatives can help in communication and lowering inhibition. They are very addictive and could have brain damaging effects. If you have to, these drugs include alcohol, phenibut, weed, codeine, kratom, ketamine, tianeptine, ect. Don't use them, except maybe occasionally alcohol.

TLDR
Take testosterone, modafinil, and psychedelics. Instead of testosterone, take clomid, hcg or Proviron, if you are in puberty. Feel free to ask any questions.

Terrible idea, I learned that the hard way.

 

[Deleted member 27702]

just take Yvanse everyday theory

 

[Deleted member 20399]

Psychedelics … yeah bro I’m just gonna do some mushrooms before showing up to university. Ffs. I need something tho. Ketamine probably

 

[itzxcolin]

What would be the safest thing/stack for a 17 yr old to take? clomid, hcg, modafinil, psychedelics?
Help would be greatly appreciated

 

[code]

this threads pushing me to start abusing various drugs

 

[Freud]

If you feel the need to take an SSRI, I'd recommend taking Bupropion

wellbutrin isnt an ssri JFL

 

[Cronus]

I find amphetamines to be effective. One of the cheapest drugs too.

 

[Majnak45]

cocaine is the best

 

[Outerz14]

Disclaimer
In no way am I claiming to have a complete knowledge of the subject, nor have I tried all of the substances listed. I am however, a loser who reads studies and likes to write research papers. I didn't proof read this, so it may be a little choppy at times. Please use cation when trying any drug.

Preface
Bold and underlined text refers to a new chapter, if you will. Bold and italicized indicates that it’s a subheading. I have inserted links to studies and academic papers throughout the guide. You can skip to the drugs category if you don't want to read much or already have a general idea of the social hierarchy.

Defining Status
To discuss compounds that enhance your status, we first must define what constitutes for one.
Status is the basic hierarchy structure that is observable in all species through all of history. It is the way that your peers interpret and respect you. In some ways, it can be considered the abstract manifestation of God. The primary goal of life is reaching a higher social status so you can reproduce with the best mate. Most people do not know this. Almost all actions are an attempt at gaining status.

Causes of Status
Status can have many causes. It can be from the way you treat people and your outward appearance. Since this guide , I'll be discussing the chemicals that contribute to the hierarchy.​

Serotonin
Serotonin has long been thought of as the chemical responsible for happiness, but this may not be true. Regardless, it has been linked to dominance and cooperation. This seems a bit paradoxical, but at the end of the day, those who can raise themselves to the top and justly distribute will always be leaders. This is why tyrants are generally not viewed as being on the top of the hierarchy, despite being on top at the surface level.
View attachment 440283
Dopamine
Dopamine, probably my favorite neurotransmitters. It is also heavily linked to motivation. Additionally, dopamine has been shown to increase income in stock traders. Wealth itself is one of the basic building blocks of status, but dopamine alone is correlated with high social status.

Androgens
Androgens are the male sex hormones. The two most notable are testosterone and dht. Androgens up regulate the desire for greater social status. They also are correlated with offspring, the ultimate goal of social landscape. Androgens also have effects on neurotransmitters. High levels of androgens increase dopamine. Similarly, they increase serotonin, at least in transgender people. I like androgens the most of all of them because of their sexually dimorphic and anabolic effects along with heightened libido, aggression, and sense of well-being
.

The Drugs
I will be dividing the different drugs into a couple of categories so that it is easier to find what you are looking for. I skipped a few like neurogenesis agents since they aren't directly pro social.​

Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors
Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors, SSRIs, are the most common class of antidepressants. They are so common in fact, that they are prescribed to around 10% of the American population. Having been on antidepressants since I was 5, coming up on a decade of use, I can tell you that they aren't optimal. If you are focusing on serotonin, skip to the psychedelics or androgens category. If you feel the need to take an SSRI, I'd recommend taking Bupropion, a dopamine reuptake inhibitor, to minimize the side effects.
Dopaminergic Agents
On to the fun stuff. Dopamine enhancing drugs are great for motivation, energy, cognitive power, and mood. Many dopamine related compounds come with a risk for addiction. Think cocaine and Adderal. Both of which will boost productivity, but because of the addictive properties, I cannot recommend them. Certain compounds don't come with a risk of addiction though. Caffeine is the most widely used drug on the planet. It is dopaminergic, but also one of the safest drugs available. Modafinil, the classic smart pill. While dopamine isn't the only factor, it does play an important role. I would consider Modafnil the perfect drugs due to its low addictive potential and pro cognitive functions. Personally, I notice positive changes in mood and outlook, better focus, and more extroversion. One problem with Modafinil is that it is a regulated substance, though it has a very low penalty. Regardless it is readily available online. I've used Adrafinil, a precursor to Modafinil, which is not regulated. Some claim that Modafinil can build tolerance, but that is yet to be proven in clinical studies. Bupropion is also good alternative.
Anabolic Androgens and other Hormonal Regulators
As mentioned in the Androgen section, androgens have a positive effect on social status. The best steroid to take is testosterone, simply because it has the most clinical data behind it. Most AAS and SARMs have effects on mood, so it doesn’t really matter. Technically, they are illegal. Many police are on steroids, so you usually won't get arrested. If you are still in puberty DO NOT take AAS or SARMs unless you have a very heavy knowledge on PEDs. You could get a masculinized face and frame, but you could also ruin your fertility and permanently lower you testosterone if used incorrectly, which most people do. Proviron is an exception, it still has effects on mood, but may improve fertility in normal doses. If you are a teen or just want to preserve fertility, clomid/enclomid is much safer, but still has side effects and anecdotal reports doesn't work as well on mood. HCG and aromatase inhibitors are also safer options. Although HCG can also reduce natural testosterone.
Psychedelics
The use of psychedelics is controversial to say the least. They were originally studied for their use in neurological disorders, but were taken out of the medical setting by hippies, who got them banned, even in research. Despite the 40 year halt, a recent interest in psychedelics as medicine has emerged. There have been more studies in the last decade, specifically on psilocybin, or mushrooms. These fungi have been shown to fix almost all mental disorders, including anxiety, depression, OCD, and addiction. Psychedelics also benefit extraversion and openness, both of which are key in building status. Supposedly, they are very common within upper class businessmen. Psychedelics are also very illegal. They are a class 1 substance, the same as heroin and meth. Despite having a negative impact on addiction, these drugs are classed with the most addictive substances. To get around this, you can extract DMT and LSA from certain legal plants and seeds. I won't get into this for legal reasons, but the information is readily available online. You can use DXM, cough syrup, but it does have addictive potential and usually has compounds that are very dangerous in high quantities. All of these compounds have the advantage of only having to take the once every few months. I'd just do an LSA or DMT extraction.
Sedatives
Sedatives can help in communication and lowering inhibition. They are very addictive and could have brain damaging effects. If you have to, these drugs include alcohol, phenibut, weed, codeine, kratom, ketamine, tianeptine, ect. Don't use them, except maybe occasionally alcohol.

TLDR
Take testosterone, modafinil, and psychedelics. Instead of testosterone, take clomid, hcg or Proviron, if you are in puberty. Feel free to ask any questions.

I thought this was gonna be a weed thread but still good thread

 

[perpetuallytired]

Wanna add GABA. There are some ways to upregulate GABA sensitivity (kava) and ways to increase GABA directly (phenibut, proviron,


It is what makes you confident and alpha, this is the way androgens work on your brain.

Great thread

You wanna be careful with anything that messes with gaba. Can fuck with your cognition.

 

[wollet2]

imagine having to take drugs to talk to people or get to know girls

jfl this forum never fails to amuse me

y beyond over for them

 

[chriswalkerthegoat]

I'm sorry that I even need to warn about something like this, but the only ladder your junkie ass will climb is the one entering the sanatorium...

And I say that as a former drug user, was a heavy marijuana smoker until December 2020, quit for good after that.

Ascended mid-2023 and I only consume Beer/Cigarettes... Drugs aren't cool, looking good is!

 

[VICAVA92]

the non psychoactive type of cannabis, hemp ( high CBD ), significantly reduces autism traits:

Why would you want to reduce them? Not an attack, genuine question.

 

[TeenagePharmacy]

Hey everyone! I was the OP on this. Just wanted to say that after like 4 years I’m finally a bit active again. My views on some of the topics included in this guide have changed as I’ve learned significantly more about pharmacology and the applicable results of certain substances. I’ll try to a refresh of this post in the future, but for now if anyone has questions feel free to ask.

 

[laaltin]

Why is this BOTB @Gengar

 

[lcberg04]

Hey everyone! I was the OP on this. Just wanted to say that after like 4 years I’m finally a bit active again. My views on some of the topics included in this guide have changed as I’ve learned significantly more about pharmacology and the applicable results of certain substances. I’ll try to a refresh of this post in the future, but for now if anyone has questions feel free to ask.

What opinion has changed the most when it comes to Social Drugs?
What do you think about pregabalin and Baclofen (two meds that are pretty popular nowadays at least on the forum and are often recommended as an alternative to alcohol)?

 

[xeqri]

Is Xanax good?

 

[atlantidmogger]

Becoming an alcoholmaxxer changed my life for the better. Massive prosocial halo. Just don’t give yourself liver failure.

 

[TeenagePharmacy]

What opinion has changed the most when it comes to Social Drugs?
What do you think about pregabalin and Baclofen (two meds that are pretty popular nowadays at least on the forum and are often recommended as an alternative to alcohol)?

Haven’t tried baclofen, but it seems pretty mid based on what I’ve heard, aside from sleep benefits. Pregabalin is probably my overall favorite drug. Preferable to alcohol without a doubt because of lower toxicity, longer duration, relative lack of cognitive deficits, and less likely to make you act retarded. You just need to treat it very carefully as it’s still addictive and can develop pretty nasty tolerance/withdrawals.