PSL Is Overrated - Critique & Analyisis

[tyronelite]

Have you even seen a male model tier guy at a club?

I don't think a guy that looking would even step foot in a nightclub unless it was really upscale and cost a fortune to get in.

Yes multiple lol.. in fact I have a couple friends who model in NYC & one I went to high school with

 

[Deleted member 245]

Yes multiple lol.. in fact I have a couple friends who model in NYC & one I went to high school with

And they get out scored by normies at clubs? I highly doubt that.

 

[tyronelite]

And they get out scored by normies at clubs? I highly doubt that.

@lifestyle21873 can confirm. He’s a bouncer.

Don’t believe us ? Go to a club then and make a thread showing chads getting approached

I don’t care about statistics & what niggas say online. I want real life examples

 

[Deleted member 10913]

You're like a bishop preaching to a group of satanists. But hopefully you change a few of their minds with time.

Everything matters. Looks, game, money. It's all just one sliding scale, there is no end all be all. "Muh 4psl" but you're a successful businessman making multi six figures and 6'1. Wouldn't seem like that guy would have a problem with the ladies. The truth is, you're given a hand of cards throughout life and you have to make the best of them.

yea but would this 4psl dude generate raw attraction?

 

[gamma]

This is the problem with y’all.. you think 10-20% success rate is bad. THATS GOOD

I said the same thing
10% is chadlite success rate
A normie has 1% success rate that is shit

 

[tyronelite]

I said the same thing
10% is chadlite success rate
A normie has 1% success rate that is shit

Your success rate isn’t based just off your looks jfl

A normie can have a better success rate then a chadlite who doesn’t know wtf he’s doing

This whole convo is stupid anyway. Deal with the cards you were dealt with & focus on just you

yea but would this 4psl dude generate raw attraction?

Yeah I’m one of em according to PSL autists

 

[Deleted member 10913]

Your success rate isn’t based just off your looks jfl

A normie can have a better success rate then a chadlite who doesn’t know wtf he’s doing

This whole convo is stupid anyway. Deal with the cards you were dealt with & focus on just you

Yeah I’m one of em according to PSL autists

you 4psl??

 

[JamesHowlett]

Legit AF

 

[Deleted member 14204]

I think that the NT/confidence pill is actually a blacker pill than the lookspill. There is a surgery to fix nearly every common facial flaw (with some exceptions of course). However, there is very little you can do to amend damage that cave dwelling, incessant bullying, or shit mental genetics(extreme anxiety, autism, schizoid disorders, low iq, etc) can do to your psyche and social life.

There is no surgery for your brain .

 

[tyronelite]

you 4psl??

According to these PSL autists yes. I made a thread on rating me just for fun & i got a mix of 3-4 PSL lol

 

[Deleted member 10913]

According to these PSL autists yes. I made a thread on rating me just for fun & i got a mix of 3-4 PSL lol

how do you on datingapps?

 

[tyronelite]

However, there is very little you can do to amend damage that cave dwelling, incessant bullying, or shit mental genetics(extreme anxiety, autism, schizoid disorders, low iq, etc) can do to your psyche and social life.

Yeah but that’s a small % of guys here. Most dudes here are normies who haven’t even done the easiest looksmaxes

 

[tyronelite]

how do you on datingapps?

I only use them as a back up.. in fact I’m slowly transitioning away from dating apps

I go to bars, clubs, social events, house parties, etc.

- I do way better in bars and clubs
- The chicks in bars and clubs are way better looking
- The city I’m in is small population. You need to live in a major city to get shit poppin on dating apps

So I have all these things working against me

 

[volcelfatcel]

According to these PSL autists yes. I made a thread on rating me just for fun & i got a mix of 3-4 PSL lol

your 4psl is a meme because you are 6'3" jfl, thats a crazy boost to attractiveness

 

[gamma]

your 4psl is a meme because you are 6'3" jfl, thats a crazy boost to attractiveness

Psl is rating based only on face tho
I know it's stupid but it's like this

Smv is a different thing

 

[tyronelite]

your 4psl is a meme because you are 6'3" jfl, thats a crazy boost to attractiveness

Yeah but it’s not to the point where she’s just gonna forget about your face lol or else FaceandLMS would be slaying

LikeI always say.. men cannot rate other men (especially black men).

Not only do I think it’s sus.. but we’re not fuckin women

@whiteissuperior has seen the chicks I’ve pulled in clubs & one of em has 30K followers and gets hit on by blue check marked niggas on IG simpin in her comments jfl

 

[volcelfatcel]

Psl is rating based only on face tho
I know it's stupid but it's like this

Smv is a different thing

ye but @tyronelite still proves the blackpill with height, he gets preferential treatment at clubs because he is tall. He is also black and blacks rely far less on looks not as much as whites but still a lot in comparison to other ethnics. Even if he was 3.5 psl or whatever the fuck he would do welll in clubs because of height and @looksmaxxer234 has said this before blacks just need to be NT and do well, this 95% of the time wouldn't go well for any other ethnic because ethnics besides blacks rely much more looks and breaking the stereotype of their race.

I do agree looks aren't the end all be all, you still need to have instagram and shit but it's undeniable how much success tyronelite has had because of his 99th percentile height

 

[Deleted member 10913]

I only use them as a back up.. in fact I’m slowly transitioning away from dating apps

I go to bars, clubs, social events, house parties, etc.

- I do way better in bars and clubs
- The chicks in bars and clubs are way better looking
- The city I’m in is small population. You need to live in a major city to get shit poppin on dating apps

So I have all these things working against me

your 4psl is a meme because you are 6'3" jfl, thats a crazy boost to attractiveness

Face, height and frame is all part of looks and generate attraction. Money and satus isn't. These two are more like confirmations to your looks. Everyone should be able to find their looksmatch. In theory that is. Today's sexually 'liberated' society makes this more difficult then what it already is. Making one person sexually 'free' means the other isn't. Ofcourse nobody is forced to take those lower of him/her into consideration however in a functioning society this must be the case. A society wouldn't exist otherwise.

 

[gamma]

ye but @tyronelite still proves the blackpill with height, he gets preferential treatment at clubs because he is tall. He is also black and blacks rely far less on looks not as much as whites but still a lot in comparison to other ethnics. Even if he was 3.5 psl or whatever the fuck he would do welll in clubs because of height and @looksmaxxer234 has said this before blacks just need to be NT and do well, this 95% of the time wouldn't go well for any other ethnic because ethnics besides blacks rely much more looks and breaking the stereotype of their race.

Indeed, blacks don't need aesthetic faces

 

[tyronelite]

Everyone should be able to find their looksmatch

I don’t believe in looksmatch tbh lol

I’ve been with chicks who were considered higher PSL then me

You guys keep forgetting some chicks can find you too good looking & intimidating for them.

 

[volcelfatcel]

Face, height and frame is all part of looks and generate attraction. Money and satus isn't. These two are more like confirmations to your looks. Everyone should be able to find their looksmatch. In theory that is. Today's sexually 'liberated' society makes this more difficult then what it already is. Making one person sexually 'free' means the other isn't. Ofcourse nobody is forced to take those lower of him/her into consideration however in a functioning society this must be the case. A society wouldn't exist otherwise.

Pretty much yea, the fact tyronelite is 99th percentile in height and has a decent body he cannot be incel. It's extremely difficult to not do well at:
6'3"
black: 2nd least reliant race on looks, NT actually works for them
decent body

 

[Deleted]

"We are overexposed to genetic superhumans like Lachowski, Barrett, O'Pry, Cavill, Hernan, Eriksen, O'Bhai, and our perception is twisted, anything that isn't close to these 1 in 1,000,000 males appear subhuman in my eyes. Average man is utter subhuman."

This is the biggest bs i’ve heard. Been walking around in a rich area and seen literal gigachad and more chiseled Jaws Than i know what to so with. Its literarly insane how many chadlite and chad guys exist

 

[tyronelite]

Indeed, blacks don't need aesthetic faces

Yes they do lol you guys are just terrible at rating black faces

 

[tyronelite]

This is the biggest bs i’ve heard. Been walking around in a rich area and seen literal gigachad and more chiseled Jaws Than i know what to so with. Its literarly insane how many chadlite and chad guys exist

Yeah cuz your country is Chad central. US is subhuman central

 

[volcelfatcel]

Indeed, blacks don't need aesthetic faces

yup, if he was curry for example
no nt for his orbitals
no fit for his height
no game for his coloring

who rely least on looks
1. Whites
- slight gap -
2. blacks/mulattos
--- fucking massive gap like huge---
3. rest of ethnics

 

[Perma Virgin 666]

your 4psl is a meme because you are 6'3" jfl, thats a crazy boost to attractiveness

also the reason why dating apps apparently don't work nearly as good for him as IRL
women can't tell your height on dating apps. or not accurately and they merely care about face on dating apps, while IRL height plays a much bigger factor

anyways. @tyronelite numbers game is bullshit. for a chad a 30% success rate might be accurate in a club or bar but for a mid tier normie? or even a low tier normie? they wouldn't be getting a success rate of 10% or 5%. not even 1%. probably something like 0.1%. and at that point it's a waste of time.

success rates among different levels of SMV isn't linear but exponential. whilst a chadlite may have a 10% success rate in a club, a mid tier normie probably won't even get a 1%.

 

[volcelfatcel]

Yeah cuz your country is Chad central. US is subhuman central

this is true as well, the west is much more forgiving than scandinavia or italy @gamma

 

[justadude]

@john2 agrees

 

[Deleted member 10913]

I don’t believe in looksmatch tbh lol

what do you mean? you believe that uglier males can create attraction in better looking females??

I’ve been with chicks who were considered higher PSL then me

yea you can always 'be with them' ofcourse but is this attraction? A female simply wouldn't be attracted to a lesser gl male then her. This flexibility simply doesn't exist imo, atleast not on females. On males it does because on average we are polygamous. Even if we don't or can't act on this. This polygamy nature of males itself makes what we percieve as attractive more 'flexible' then that of females.

 

[tyronelite]

also the reason why dating apps apparently don't work nearly as good for him as IRL
women can't tell your height on dating apps. or not accurately and they merely care about face on dating apps, while IRL height plays a much bigger factor

anyways. @tyronelite numbers game is bullshit. for a chad a 30% success rate might be accurate in a club or bar but for a mid tier normie? or even a low tier normie? they wouldn't be getting a success rate of 10% or 5%. not even 1%. probably something like 0.1%. and at that point it's a waste of time.

success rates among different levels of SMV isn't linear but exponential. whilst a chadlite may have a 10% success rate in a club, a mid tier normie probably won't even get a 1%.

Everything is a numbers game in life. Get over it.

You didn’t have the superior genetics? Fuckin work on everything else & stop bitching and crying

 

[volcelfatcel]

I don’t believe in looksmatch tbh lol

I’ve been with chicks who were considered higher PSL then me

You guys keep forgetting some chicks can find you too good looking & intimidating for them.

Nigga you are legit 6'3" with 8x6 dick
you are mogging girls if anything, purely facially they may be above but your other factors make you above them

your other factors compensate for lack of face big time.

 

[gamma]

for a chad a 30% success rate might be accurate in a club or bar but for a mid tier normie? or even a low tier normie? they wouldn't be getting a success rate of 10% or 5%. not even 1%. probably something like 0.1%. and at that point it's a waste of time.

success rates among different levels of SMV isn't linear but exponential. whilst a chadlite may have a 10% success rate in a club, a mid tier normie probably won't even get a 1%.

Indeed that's what I said
Running numbers game as a normie doesn't worth it
All those rejections will just crush your self esteem....I'm speaking from experience

 

[tyronelite]

what do you mean? you believe that uglier males can create attraction in better looking females??

What you consider is ugly is your opinion..

These examples I show the chicks clearly look better then their bfs

 

[tyronelite]

Nigga you are legit 6'3" with 8x6 dick
you are mogging girls if anything, purely facially they may be above but your other factors make you above them

your other factors compensate for lack of face big time.

Can they see my 8x6 in the club?? NO

Face height build & behavior are what chicks are going off of.

6’3? So what I’ve seen plenty of dudes as tall as me in the club I’m NOTHING SPECIAL

 

[ChristianChad]

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[volcelfatcel]

Can they see my 8x6 in the club?? NO

Face height build & behavior are what chicks are going off of.

6’3? So what I’ve seen plenty of dudes as tall as me in the club I’m NOTHING SPECIAL

Face, height, build, behavior

you are legit only lacking 1 and you are still above average in it IMO, most people lack 2 of these if not 3 if extremely unlucky with frame genetics and bad proportions like birthing hips
Behavior can be changed somewhat but changing the way your brain works is difficult

I mean I vividly remember a post of you saying how you didn't get heightmogged if at all in clubs. That must be a genuine power sign to women at clubs to treat you better.
All i'm saying blacks don't realize you don't need looks even close to as much as other ethnics
Sure whites require less looks than you but the difference isn't even close to as big as you 2 vs other ethnics.

 

[Perma Virgin 666]

Can they see my 8x6 in the club?? NO

Face height build & behavior are what chicks are going off of.

6’3? So what I’ve seen plenty of dudes as tall as me in the club I’m NOTHING SPECIAL

cus normies don't go to clubs you retard, it's pointless. we work, play video games and rot.
what's the height average at clubs? like 6'1?
what's the height average nationally? like 5'10?

What you consider is ugly is your opinion..

These examples I show the chicks clearly look better then their bfs
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so where's proof that they fug them though? looks like beta buxxing to me

 

[Deleted member 10913]

What you consider is ugly is your opinion..

These examples I show the chicks clearly look better then their bfs
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alright. How many whore experiences ehh i mean ´personal growth´ did it take for these women to end up with guys like this. Putting this aside what you show doesn´t indicate for attraction. In my opinion the onlything what would is an example where the male is first choice and the women stays loyal from her prime years onwards.

 

[tyronelite]

cus normies don't go to clubs you retard, it's pointless. we work, play video games and rot.
what's the height average at clubs? like 6'1?
what's the height average nationally? like 5'10?


so where's proof that they fug them though? looks like beta buxxing to me

You clearly didn't see my thread where I recorded myself going to the club..

Maybe where you live.. I see plenty of normies. Chads by definition are rare you retard. If we're talking solely on PSL no shit you're gonna see them roaming around unless you live in a major city with lots of modeling agencies

What do you consider a normie? When I say normie I'm talking about average facial features, average height, average build, etc.

 

[DrTony]

There is no such thing as game. If you look good people will attribute good characteristics and personality traits onto you. If you think you need game and chase women you have already failed.

I have severe anxiety and am very shy. And it was very obvious before my surgeries. Now when I tell women I have severe anxiety they never believe me and they would say things like I'm aloof or very serious but they ever perceive me as having anxiety.

And I'm never left out of conversations and people make an effort to engage with me.

There is a clear noticable difference in my life before and after surgery and it has nothing to do with how I act.

Like I've had things that people meme about here happen to me. For example a girl gave me a blow job and then asked me later if I liked her jfl.

Men just like to think if they do X then they can get women. This game, red pill, pua nonsense is the equivalent of religion for men looking for hope and copes.

The only legit post in this thread so far.

 

[tyronelite]

Face, height, build, behavior

you are legit only lacking 1 and you are still above average in it IMO, most people lack 2 of these if not 3 if extremely unlucky with frame genetics and bad proportions like birthing hips
Behavior can be changed somewhat but changing the way your brain works is difficult

I mean I vividly remember a post of you saying how you didn't get heightmogged if at all in clubs. That must be a genuine power sign to women at clubs to treat you better.
All i'm saying blacks don't realize you don't need looks even close to as much as other ethnics
Sure whites require less looks than you but the difference isn't even close to as big as you 2 vs other ethnics.

Lemme ask you something..

Lets say hypothetically every guy in the club is 6ft tall, 5 PSL, and well built

What's gonna separate them if they all look potentially the same ?

 

[volcelfatcel]

Lemme ask you something..

Lets say hypothetically every guy in the club is 6ft tall, 5 PSL, and well built

What's gonna separate them if they all look potentially the same ?

Behavior, status, money (all factors which are controlled STILL by the blackpill of FaceHeightFrame, i can elab on this further)

no point thinking about hypothetical situations because 5 psl is not average, nor is 6ft.

 

[tyronelite]

alright. How many whore experiences ehh i mean ´personal growth´ did it take for these women to end up with guys like this. Putting this aside what you show doesn´t indicate for attraction. In my opinion the onlything what would is an example where the male is first choice and the women stays loyal from her prime years onwards.

All of them have been together for 2 + years. None of them are getting beta buxed or used lol

 

[tyronelite]

status, money

How are they gonna see your money or status?

You're in a club setting LOL and women have their own money wtf do they need yours for?

The only legit answer was behavior. If you're competing with other guys you have to stand out by being masculine & actually approaching cuz guess what women aren't gonna do approach. Especially when they're 1000x more afraid of rejection

 

[Deleted member 10913]

All of them have been together for 2 + years. None of them are getting beta buxed or used lol

are these dudes the first options of the females? and what's the age of these women to begin with?

 

[tyronelite]

are these dudes the first options of the females? and what's the age of these women to begin with?

Clearly they are if they stayed together this long. Half of them have kids & the other half is about to get engaged

All between 20-24

 

[Perma Virgin 666]

You clearly didn't see my thread where I recorded myself going to the club..

Maybe where you live.. I see plenty of normies. Chads by definition are rare you retard. If we're talking solely on PSL no shit you're gonna see them roaming around unless you live in a major city with lots of modeling agencies

What do you consider a normie? When I say normie I'm talking about average facial features, average height, average build, etc.

you see plenty of normies at clubs? not where I live.
the difference of SMV in clubs, at festivals vs. ordinary places is huge. simply because going there is a huge waste of time for anyone but high normie tier and above. that's why at 6'3 you may not be "special" as you said so yourself despite statistically being top percentile. and that's why playing the numbers game there is laughable if you're not clearly above average

 

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

Blacks only need high levels of dimorphism and they slay. The average black mogs the average Asian/Indian, and even white man pretty hard so on average this is handed to them.

Idk what @tyronelite's frame looks like, but his height is close to tellem t. And he'd easily slay irl ngl.

Ngl his height and his wide as shit frame are such huge privileges.

 

[volcelfatcel]

How are they gonna see your money or status?

You're in a club setting LOL and women have their own money wtf do they need yours for?

The only legit answer was behavior. If you're competing with other guys you have to stand out by being masculine & actually approaching cuz guess what women aren't gonna do approach. Especially when they're 1000x more afraid of rejection

Discussing hypotheticals isn't worth it. Average NA club height isn't 6ft, nor is the average PSL 5.
Reality is you being 6'3" good body is giga haloing you at a club + you're black not curry, not chink, not MENA - all 3 of these races have negative stereotypes attached, you do not have pages of social media/tiktok of your own women shitting on you or other people enforcing steoreotypes on you because some village niggers decided to thirst over some blonde on instagram.

I do agree with your premise of NT mattering

but only 2 races can take bluepill advice and succeed:
- White
- Black/Mulatto at most MAYBE latino but even they fit into other ethnics now

 

[Deleted member 10913]

Clearly they are if they stayed together this long. Half of them have kids & the other half is about to get engaged

All between 20-24

I honestly doubt these women didn't date guys before them. I would've believed if these people followed a creed and tribal laws but to put it mildly they just look like secular Americans..

All between 20-24

Prime age starts with 17. My mother married at 18.