Ramieri jaw implants

[CristianT]

See here: https://looksmax.org/threads/opinions-on-my-peek-jaw-implant-design.485427/#post-7983987

nice, thanks

 

[TheLordMadness]

OK. I'm interested in a jaw angle implant. What were the problems with his first design?

Too low gonial angle and weird shape of the gonions, but my case was quite complicated beacuse i had some bumps on the mandible (due to jaw surgery)

 

[Wallenberg]

Too low gonial angle and weird shape of the gonions, but my case was quite complicated beacuse i had some bumps on the mandible (due to jaw surgery)

Are you happy with your jaw implants now? Did they improve your looks?

 

[TheLordMadness]

Are you happy with your jaw implants now? Did they improve your looks?

As the other guy mentioned it’s never 100% as expected. But in general yes i look better especially from 3/4

 

[Deusmaximus]

As the other guy mentioned it’s never 100% as expected. But in general yes i look better especially from 3/4
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Looks great! Would you mind sharing a before picture?

 

[CristianT]

for those who want to go with jaw implants / wraparound / gonials just make sure you take this in consideration:

We have more skin/fat/muscle on our jaw angles, whereas we only have a thin layer of skin and not really any fat or muscles lying over your bizygomatic width area so the actual implant gonial can fall a few millimeters shy of being the same width as the bizygomatic and your jaw will still end up looking just as wide as your bizygomatic area. - this in case where you think that the bigonial width its too big in comparasion to your bizygomatic width

i have to revise my implants because i didnt knew this

you welcome

 

[Wallenberg]

for those who want to go with jaw implants / wraparound / gonials just make sure you take this in consideration:

We have more skin/fat/muscle on our jaw angles, whereas we only have a thin layer of skin and not really any fat or muscles lying over your zygion area so the actual implant gonial can fall a few millimeters shy of being the same width as the zygion and your jaw will still end up looking just as wide as your zygion area. - this in case where you think that the bigonial width its too big.

i have to revise my implants because of this.

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you welcome

Who was your surgeon?

 

[CristianT]

Who was your surgeon?

for me? or for that guy?

 

[Wallenberg]

for me? or for that guy?

I meant you but you can answer for both

 

[CristianT]

I meant you but you can answer for both

me - pags
that guy - eppley

Pags(like most surgeons do) like to go conservative. Be careful, you need to control the surgeon, not the other way around or you will end up looking with not the results you wanted.

 

[randomvanish]

for those who want to go with jaw implants / wraparound / gonials just make sure you take this in consideration:

We have more skin/fat/muscle on our jaw angles, whereas we only have a thin layer of skin and not really any fat or muscles lying over your bizygomatic width area so the actual implant gonial can fall a few millimeters shy of being the same width as the bizygomatic and your jaw will still end up looking just as wide as your bizygomatic area. - this in case where you think that the bigonial width its too big in comparasion to your bizygomatic width

i have to revise my implants because i didnt knew this

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you welcome

so are you saying create a bigger gap to achieve "bigonial distance * 0,9 = bizygomatic distance " ratio?

 

[CristianT]

so are you saying create a bigger gap to achieve "bigonial distance * 0,9 = bizygomatic distance " ratio?

pretty much, yes. I thought 90% its the best for me at least but it wasnt because I reached that threshold but in reality it was lower than 90% because of the muscle thickness and other things which are in the jaw muscle.

you have to go a little bit above that so you will end up with exactly 90%


also make sure your gonials are not lower than your lower lip, in most cases it doesnt look good, it looks too roblox type, its better and safer to be at upper lip level or even higher a bit

 

[Deleted member 7098]

I meant you but you can answer for both

that's an eppley design

 

[Deleted member 7098]

pretty much, yes. I thought 90% its the best for me at least but it wasnt because I reached that threshold but in reality it was lower than 90% because of the muscle thickness and other things which are in the jaw muscle.

you have to go a little bit above that so you will end up with exactly 90%


also make sure your gonials are not lower than your lower lip, in most cases it doesnt look good, it looks too roblox type, its better and safer to be at upper lip level or even higher a bit

i don't get it. where are you supposed to create the bigger gap?

 

[Deusmaximus]

Never get a jaw implant with a small mouth. Thats rule number 1.

 

[Deleted member 7098]

Never get a jaw implant with a small mouth. Thats rule number 1.

just stay incel theory

 

[Deusmaximus]

just stay incel theory

 

[Deleted member 7098]

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most retarded implant size I've ever seen. looks like you maxed out the stats on a character designer in a video game

 

[TheLordMadness]

Looks great! Would you mind sharing a before picture?

This is before

@Gaia262 @MoeZart @Deusmaximus @Wallenberg @CristianT

 

[StrangerDanger]

for those who want to go with jaw implants / wraparound / gonials just make sure you take this in consideration:

We have more skin/fat/muscle on our jaw angles, whereas we only have a thin layer of skin and not really any fat or muscles lying over your bizygomatic width area so the actual implant gonial can fall a few millimeters shy of being the same width as the bizygomatic and your jaw will still end up looking just as wide as your bizygomatic area. - this in case where you think that the bigonial width its too big in comparasion to your bizygomatic width

i have to revise my implants because i didnt knew this

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you welcome

Who's the guy at the top in the image?

 

[Deleted member 7098]

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@Gaia262 @MoeZart @Deusmaximus @Wallenberg @CristianT

looked good already, was this after bimax and genio?

 

[TheLordMadness]

looked good already, was this after bimax and genio?

Yes

This is before every surgery:
@Wallenberg
@MoeZart

 

[Deleted member 7098]

Yes

This is before every surgery:
@Wallenberg
@MoeZart

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life-fuel. from subhuman birdcel to HTN/chadlite

 

[Wallenberg]

me - pags
that guy - eppley

Pags(like most surgeons do) like to go conservative. Be careful, you need to control the surgeon, not the other way around or you will end up looking with not the results you wanted.

What do you think of Pagnoni?

I know what I want, but I don't know about technical details regarding implants. I mean stuff like how many millimeters it should project etc.

 

[politically correct]

As the other guy mentioned it’s never 100% as expected. But in general yes i look better especially from 3/4
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This looks good man, how was your swelling experience?

If mine looks somwhat like this I'll be happy, one difference is I asked him for my implant to sort of bend outwards and have concavity whereas yours is more dead straight

I'd be interested to see your designs?

 

[CristianT]

I What do you think of Pagnoni?

I know what I want, but I don't know about technical details regarding implants. I mean stuff like how many millimeters it should project etc.

I dont even know what to think anymore about him. Im feeling very depressed and i stay all day in bed. Implants were very small, its like nothing changed, very small improvements. I thought he would knew better.

 

[Wallenberg]

I dont even know what to think anymore about him. Im feeling very depressed and i stay all day in bed. Implants were very small, its like nothing changed, very small improvements. I thought he would knew better.

Too bad. Are you going to him again??

 

[CristianT]

Too bad. Are you going to him again??

Probably yes... This time I will lead design measurements...

 

[politically correct]

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All jokes aside the problem here is too extreme designs not a small mouth

Those cheek implants....wow

 

[Wallenberg]

Probably yes... This time I will lead design measurements...

How much it was?

 

[CristianT]

How much it was?

16,500

 

[Wallenberg]

16,500

Jaw angles or wraparound?

 

[CristianT]

Who made this?

A guy from reddit

 

[CristianT]

Jaw angles or wraparound?

Both jaw angles and infras

 

[politically correct]

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@Gaia262 @MoeZart @Deusmaximus @Wallenberg @CristianT

You naturally seem to have really thin skin and like 0 bodyfat on your face/neck, is that natural or did you have any form of lipo?

 

[politically correct]

If thats your worry why dont you just get any surgeon to design your implant then get people on this forum to help you tweak it?

What do you think of Pagnoni?

I know what I want, but I don't know about technical details regarding implants. I mean stuff like how many millimeters it should project etc.s

 

[Wallenberg]

If thats your worry why dont you just get any surgeon to design your implant then get people on this forum to help you tweak it?

I might do that

 

[politically correct]

I dont even know what to think anymore about him. Im feeling very depressed and i stay all day in bed. Implants were very small, its like nothing changed, very small improvements. I thought he would knew better.

Can't getting botox to your masseters help you 'uncover' your implants? Could be a cheap workaround?

 

[Deleted member 3679]

Probably yes... This time I will lead design measurements...

Man I feel bad you didn't get a good result with Pags, he did a good job on my bimax and I'm getting zygos with him... but I'm going big on them, 7mm max projection

 

[Deleted member 7098]

I might do that

i wouldn‘t trust the 90% of autistic teenage virgins on here

 

[Wallenberg]

i wouldn‘t trust the 90% of autistic teenage virgins on here

Good point.

 

[CristianT]

He’s not charging you full price, correct? Obviously you’ll have to pay the clinic and anesthesiologist fees.

Full price

 

[Deleted member 7098]

Full price

What a dickhead. You‘re getting scammed

 

[CristianT]

What a dickhead. You‘re getting scammed

Yes.. i am.

 

[Deleted member 19576]

Yes

This is before every surgery:
@Wallenberg
@MoeZart

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Damn this shit is real ascension.

 

[Deleted member 8869]

I don't trust his judgment. I haven't seen good results from him. Some people here have reported problems with him.

thanks bro i kinda got a bad feeling with him aswell

 

[TheLordMadness]

This looks good man, how was your swelling experience?

If mine looks somwhat like this I'll be happy, one difference is I asked him for my implant to sort of bend outwards and have concavity whereas yours is more dead straight

I'd be interested to see your designs?

After 3 weeks i was human like but still swollen, now i’m 3 months after surgery and im like 90% done with swelling. I think 2 months is were u start to see the real result.
My design wasn’t straight actually, in fact it’s weird that looks straight, but as i told before implants never look like as the design when the surgery is done, u never know how soft tissue reacts

 

[TheLordMadness]

You naturally seem to have really thin skin and like 0 bodyfat on your face/neck, is that natural or did you have any form of lipo?

Yes i have genetic thin skin and low bf. I had no surgery for skin, just retinoids and skin care

 

[eyebagcel]

I dont even know what to think anymore about him. Im feeling very depressed and i stay all day in bed. Implants were very small, its like nothing changed, very small improvements. I thought he would knew better.

tbh i don’t think the implant was too small, i think he just didn’t place it correctly in your face. eppley says he doesn’t do intraoral for saddle implants due to how hard they are to place, which makes sense because you can barely see the rim of the orbits when looking through the mouth

look at this video of a cheek implant with an intraoral approach and you’ll see what i mean



https://m.youtube.com. /watch?v=JqpO8UgvjbM&t=706s

 

[Oberyn]

pretty much, yes. I thought 90% its the best for me at least but it wasnt because I reached that threshold but in reality it was lower than 90% because of the muscle thickness and other things which are in the jaw muscle.

you have to go a little bit above that so you will end up with exactly 90%


also make sure your gonials are not lower than your lower lip, in most cases it doesnt look good, it looks too roblox type, its better and safer to be at upper lip level or even higher a bit

I didn't get it if there is muscle/fat why you should go a little bit above? Shouldn't you go below?