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[ToTheTop]

Aite, it’s been a month and a half since I last posted.



Differences -
- Had ptosis eyelid surgery (mostly healed)
- Started thickening eyebrows with minoxidil and castor oil
- Been training neck with weighted harness
- lean bulking and making gainz

Any other surgeries, fillers etc you might recommend?

How would you rate me now? HTN? Can I ascend more?

Cheers boys

 

[ToTheTop]

This was before surgery in December.

 

[KraftDurchLeid]

good effort getting surgery. looks much better.

i guess your biggest failo is your minecraft gonial angle and short face. you would need bimax for that which would be insane tbh

 

[ToTheTop]

good effort getting surgery. looks much better.

i guess your biggest failo is your minecraft gonial angle and short face. you would need bimax for that which would be insane tbh

Thanks. I agree the gonial angle sucks. Is there anything else you would recommend or am I maxxed?

 

[KraftDurchLeid]

Thanks. I agree the gonial angle sucks. Is there anything else you would recommend or am I maxxed?

you look like 15% bf. you could lean down to 10-12% to get a more chiselled face. but I think the mildly chubby look suits you well tbh

 

[ToTheTop]

you look like 15% bf. you could lean down to 10-12% to get a more chiselled face. but I think the mildly chubby look suits you well tbh

yeah my face looks sharper when I cut. I'm mid bulk right now. Will definitely look a bit better once I go into cut mode for summer.

 

[BearBoy]

Get mogged gayass nigga with ur surgeries

 

[Deleted member 5786]

you look good, but jaw is too square

 

[Deleted member 17702]

mogs me, youre HTN, not sure what else you can maxx

 

[.👽.]

looks good. HTN or so i think. u remind me of chico a bit

i think your jaw can improve alot, lacks height

 

[Deleted member 9467]

good results

personally i would add more "ruggedness" to your face to prevent you from looking overly feminine

 

[ToTheTop]

looks good. HTN or so i think. u remind me of chico a bit

i think your jaw can improve alot, lacks height

What's the answer for this? Bimax? Is that the only option?

 

[ToTheTop]

good results

personally i would add more "ruggedness" to your face to prevent you from looking overly feminine

Yeah i'm using minoxidil and castor oil for eyebrows and weight training for my neck. I don't see what else I can do to make the face look more rugged?

 

[ToTheTop]

you look good, but jaw is too square

Are there any viable surgeries for the jaw being 'too square'?

 

[.👽.]

What's the answer for this? Bimax? Is that the only option?

bimax, genio or chinwing or implant

 

[Deleted member 9467]

Yeah i'm using minoxidil and castor oil for eyebrows and weight training for my neck. I don't see what else I can do to make the face look more rugged?

i'd say messier beard

too groomed makes it seems "fraud-y"

 

[Frankie]

from average to average

 

[ToTheTop]

bimax, genio or chinwing or implant

I actually have good forward growth, a long rammus and decent chin projection.

My problem is I have a very low gonial angle (creating a box like effect).

Most of these surgeries help fix forward growth I think and wont help me?

 

[zeek]

Aite, it’s been a month and a half since I last posted.



Differences -
- Had ptosis eyelid surgery (mostly healed)
- Started thickening eyebrows with minoxidil and castor oil
- Been training neck with weighted harness
- lean bulking and making gainz

Any other surgeries, fillers etc you might recommend?

How would you rate me now? HTN? Can I ascend more?

Cheers boys

ok a real response here..

eye surgery looks good so far

yeah you can ascend more past HTN

face:

if you want to get to level up, you have to address your
midface (zygomaticomaxillary complex is weak, need under eyelid support/cheekbones) you're looking gaunt and tired already, will get worse as you age.

and

lower third (while you have good lip volume, you have a case of turtle mouth, and your short and flat from the profile)
there are different options as far as invasiveness we all know about, but ultimately you're short on ramus and probably have a deep bite.

teeth are worn, you need to protect them at night if you're a grinder. get an appliance made and wear it or you'll need restorative dentistry. Can consider whitening, veneers or incisal bonding as well. probably bracycephalic facial type, which is in line w your jaw, you also have a narrow upper palate- can see large buccal corridors.

skin I can see some hyperpigmentation, if you're not on tret you should be on it near nightly and spf in day if not (you prob do this already but brits think they don't need to but then wonder why they age like milk in the sun)
you can easily do a chemical peel that's low cost like medium depth TCA and will help everything pigmentation, scarring, texture and this will make ur skin really nice.

body
is good, keep lean bulking, get wide back, large chest and good shoulders,

no dick pic or stats available, but you should do PE if you work from home bc why not add a few centimeters if you're not packing

 

[Birdcell]

Mirin effort , looking very appealing rn , psl htn/chadlite with high appeal , I showed you to a foid IRL , she said you're a one pretty mf

 

[ToTheTop]

ok a real response here..

eye surgery looks good so far

yeah you can ascend more past HTN

face:

if you want to get to level up, you have to address your
midface (zygomaticomaxillary complex is weak, need under eyelid support/cheekbones) you're looking gaunt and tired already, will get worse as you age.

and

lower third (while you have good lip volume, you have a case of turtle mouth, and your short and flat from the profile)
there are different options as far as invasiveness we all know about, but ultimately you're short on ramus and probably have a deep bite.

teeth are worn, you need to protect them at night if you're a grinder. get an appliance made and wear it or you'll need restorative dentistry. Can consider whitening, veneers or incisal bonding as well. probably bracycephalic facial type, which is in line w your jaw, you also have a narrow upper palate- can see large buccal corridors.

skin I can see some hyperpigmentation, if you're not on tret you should be on it near nightly and spf in day if not (you prob do this already but brits think they don't need to but then wonder why they age like milk in the sun)
you can easily do a chemical peel that's low cost like medium depth TCA and will help everything pigmentation, scarring, texture and this will make ur skin really nice.

body
is good, keep lean bulking, get wide back, large chest and good shoulders,

no dick pic or stats available, but you should do PE if you work from home bc why not add a few centimeters if you're not packing

Love the detail, thanks man.

Will attach pics for my responses and questions.

Face) I agree, i've been told multiple times from raters about my under eye support being poor due to low cheekbones. Any advice for this? Under eye fillers, or something more intensive like orbital rim implants?

Teeth) I think my teeth are good. I don't think my palate is narrow - I just have a massive mouth lol. I have already done teeth whitening and have recently have my front tooth bonded to fill in some small cracks on my front teeth. I don't think I have much to do here but upkeep. Happy to listen again if you still disagree.

Skin) Yeah this might be true. I have a good skincare routine etc but I don't do tret or any spf. Surely wearing spf in london in winter isn't important though? For going abroad and summer I completely understand.

Body) Yep, will keep cycling between bulking and cutting and slowly build up that muscle nicely.

Penis) I've never been worried about my penis. Solid 6.5inches erect. Not pornstar quality but good for both parties. What enlargement strategies do I use at home? Am I supposed to just manually stretch it?

 

[ToTheTop]

Mirin effort , looking very appealing rn , psl htn/chadlite with high appeal , I showed you to a foid IRL , she said you're a one pretty mf

Cheers brah. If you got any advice for upgrading, I'm all ears

 

[zeek]

Love the detail, thanks man.

Will attach pics for my responses and questions.

Face) I agree, i've been told multiple times from raters about my under eye support being poor due to low cheekbones. Any advice for this? Under eye fillers, or something more intensive like orbital rim implants?

Teeth) I think my teeth are good. I don't think my palate is narrow - I just have a massive mouth lol. I have already done teeth whitening and have recently have my front tooth bonded to fill in some small cracks on my front teeth. I don't think I have much to do here but upkeep. Happy to listen again if you still disagree.

Skin) Yeah this might be true. I have a good skincare routine etc but I don't do tret or any spf. Surely wearing spf in london in winter isn't important though? For going abroad and summer I completely understand.

Body) Yep, will keep cycling between bulking and cutting and slowly build up that muscle nicely.

Penis) I've never been worried about my penis. Solid 6.5inches erect. Not pornstar quality but good for both parties. What enlargement strategies do I use at home? Am I supposed to just manually stretch it?

you're lacking bony support in infra-malar area, so the solution would be implants. fillers are an expensive waste of time so don't do that.

teeth, i can see your incisal edges are flat, almost like they're cut, so that's a warning sign, just monitor, use hydroxyapetite toothpaste daily. bond if you have anything needing repair.

skin, yes u need to wear spf, even in cloudy ass london. if you can see ur hand in front of ur face, the sun is irraditing ur skin, so just get in the habit of doing it every morning. use a mineral sunscreen spf30 or higher. and I would do an intervention when u get a few days to urself, think of it as minting ur new commitment to skincare. tret u can buy online for cheap, it's anti texture, anti wrinkle, anti acne, anti scar etc. can look up how to use it u just do a pea size amount and start slow every few nights.

for dick, that's a good size, but if ur at home might as well get a traction device since the time will pass anyway. in a few months of using you can get 3/4 of inch or more. get extender like penimaster pro or phallosan forte.

 

[ToTheTop]

ok a real response here..

eye surgery looks good so far

yeah you can ascend more past HTN

face:

if you want to get to level up, you have to address your
midface (zygomaticomaxillary complex is weak, need under eyelid support/cheekbones) you're looking gaunt and tired already, will get worse as you age.

and

lower third (while you have good lip volume, you have a case of turtle mouth, and your short and flat from the profile)
there are different options as far as invasiveness we all know about, but ultimately you're short on ramus and probably have a deep bite.

teeth are worn, you need to protect them at night if you're a grinder. get an appliance made and wear it or you'll need restorative dentistry. Can consider whitening, veneers or incisal bonding as well. probably bracycephalic facial type, which is in line w your jaw, you also have a narrow upper palate- can see large buccal corridors.

skin I can see some hyperpigmentation, if you're not on tret you should be on it near nightly and spf in day if not (you prob do this already but brits think they don't need to but then wonder why they age like milk in the sun)
you can easily do a chemical peel that's low cost like medium depth TCA and will help everything pigmentation, scarring, texture and this will make ur skin really nice.

body
is good, keep lean bulking, get wide back, large chest and good shoulders,

no dick pic or stats available, but you should do PE if you work from home bc why not add a few centimeters if you're not packing

Do you still think my ramus is short from these pictures? I had a review from wheat waffles a while ago and he said my strong point was a long ramus but I had curved mandible and a gonion that isn't sharp enough (degrees is too low)

 

[ToTheTop]

you're lacking bony support in infra-malar area, so the solution would be implants. fillers are an expensive waste of time so don't do that.

teeth, i can see your incisal edges are flat, almost like they're cut, so that's a warning sign, just monitor, use hydroxyapetite toothpaste daily. bond if you have anything needing repair.

skin, yes u need to wear spf, even in cloudy ass london. if you can see ur hand in front of ur face, the sun is irraditing ur skin, so just get in the habit of doing it every morning. use a mineral sunscreen spf30 or higher. and I would do an intervention when u get a few days to urself, think of it as minting ur new commitment to skincare. tret u can buy online for cheap, it's anti texture, anti wrinkle, anti acne, anti scar etc. can look up how to use it u just do a pea size amount and start slow every few nights.

for dick, that's a good size, but if ur at home might as well get a traction device since the time will pass anyway. in a few months of using you can get 3/4 of inch or more. get extender like penimaster pro or phallosan forte.

Perfect. This is great, thanks man.

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Aite, it’s been a month and a half since I last posted.



Differences -
- Had ptosis eyelid surgery (mostly healed)
- Started thickening eyebrows with minoxidil and castor oil
- Been training neck with weighted harness
- lean bulking and making gainz

Any other surgeries, fillers etc you might recommend?

How would you rate me now? HTN? Can I ascend more?

Cheers boys

Nasolabial folds hold u back

 

[zeek]

Do you still think my ramus is short from these pictures? I had a review from wheat waffles a while ago and he said my strong point was a long ramus but I had curved mandible and a gonion that isn't sharp enough (degrees is too low)

It’s short as you move forward which makes sense for bracycephalic, also usually deep bite or overbite associated with this.

It’s “low” in the back at the angle but then almost looks like it moves upward or is “curved” as you move towards the chin because it’s missing vertical development.

There is an easy test and subconscious habit some people do- jutting.

Take a pic of your side profile with your teeth together.

Now take a pic again with your jaw open and lower jaw jutted forward. You can also bite down on your tongue to hold it.

Post these so we can see.

Should notice an aesthetic improvement.

 

[Mrinfinityx]

I actually have good forward growth, a long rammus and decent chin projection.

My problem is I have a very low gonial angle (creating a box like effect).

Most of these surgeries help fix forward growth I think and wont help me?

U dont need bimax don't risk to mess up ur existing harmony, nose projection and height is the most important factor for the harmony and bimax can mess it up with too much nostril show etc, I recommend u to stay on a possible nasolabial correction and maybe a genioplastia in hardmaxx aspect

Look this littéral DOG result, u don't want that in ur actual bimaxillari state

 

[ToTheTop]

It’s short as you move forward which makes sense for bracycephalic, also usually deep bite or overbite associated with this.

It’s “low” in the back at the angle but then almost looks like it moves upward or is “curved” as you move towards the chin because it’s missing vertical development.

There is an easy test and subconscious habit some people do- jutting.

Take a pic of your side profile with your teeth together.

Now take a pic again with your jaw open and lower jaw jutted forward. You can also bite down on your tongue to hold it.

Post these so we can see.

Should notice an aesthetic improvement.

oh wow. Any advice on what to do moving forward with this? Does this require bimax?

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Do you still think my ramus is short from these pictures? I had a review from wheat waffles a while ago and he said my strong point was a long ramus but I had curved mandible and a gonion that isn't sharp enough (degrees is too low)

Here is ur profile angle, u don't have any recession at all

Just the chin need to be corrected in height aspect without being ogre in ur global face harmony

 

[Deleted member 16970]

Just lose weight and muscle up.

 

[ToTheTop]

Here is ur profile angle, u don't have any recession at all

View attachment 1541281

Just the chin need to be corrected in height aspect without being ogre in ur global face harmony

What's the best solution for correcting the chin height?

 

[zeek]

oh wow. Any advice on what to do moving forward with this? Does this require bimax?

Ok you did it, but I meant do it with your lips closed and relaxed. In the second pic, keep your mouth closed like in the first just slide your lower jaw forward and down a bit (milimeters)

Bimax is ideal, but I don’t think you wanna do that based on some of your posts before.

You can do a chin wing or mini chin wing to lower the border at the front if you want. This a more limited option.

 

[Mrinfinityx]

What's the best solution for correcting the chin height?

Sliding Genio to advance the global chin block in a downward position, this will add more degrees to ur jawline too

Mine is the exact opposite case, my chin width and height is ideal but I lack shorter gonial angle in the ramus area

 

[zeek]

Yeah you can just do a genio for downward length, a mini/Ching wing are just extended versions.

 

[ToTheTop]

Ok you did it, but I meant do it with your lips closed and relaxed. In the second pic, keep your mouth closed like in the first just slide your lower jaw forward and down a bit (milimeters)

Bimax is ideal, but I don’t think you wanna do that based on some of your posts before.

You can do a chin wing or mini chin wing to lower the border at the front if you want. This a more limited option.

I'm open to listening through all the options including bimax.

Here is me jutting my lower jaw forward with my mouth closed.

 

[ToTheTop]

Sliding Genio to advance the global chin block in a downward position, this will add more degrees to ur jawline too

Mine is the exact opposite case, my chin width and height is ideal but I lack shorter gonial angle in the ramus area

View attachment 1541286

Ah this is perfect, cheers

 

[Deleted member 16036]

looks good. HTN or so i think. u remind me of chico a bit

i think your jaw can improve alot, lacks height

Just outta curiosity, what does htn equal too on a 1 to 10 scale

 

[Chadethnic101]

good results

personally i would add more "ruggedness" to your face to prevent you from looking overly feminine

His facial provides that ruggedness tbh.

I'd say your maxxed out @ToTheTop - actually you'd improve being 10-12% with a leaner body with more developed muscles.

 

[Chadethnic101]

His facial provides that ruggedness tbh.

I'd say your maxxed out @ToTheTop - actually you'd improve being 10-12% with a leaner body with more developed muscles.

Facial hair* @ToTheTop

 

[Deleted member 15748]

whats this guys height

 

[Deleted member 15748]

i think slightly more lean could work. you are not fat but you look like you carry more in ur face than average

 

[ToTheTop]

whats this guys height

5’10-5’11 barefoot.

 

[ToTheTop]

i think slightly more lean could work. you are not fat but you look like you carry more in ur face than average

Yeah for sure. Bulking atm though so just the punishment for building muscle.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

HTN. Jaw could be much better and you lack facial height

 

[AcneScars]

HTN. Jaw could be much better and you lack facial height

Do you know who this guy is?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Do you know who this guy is?

Who bro?

 

[AcneScars]

Who bro?

The guy in the video

 

[volcelfatcel]

Do you know who this guy is?

dani garcia

 

[Deleted member 16134]

At least ur white