Rate me :(

[kopper]

No. His face is babyish. Nothing to do with his skull

Why exactly? Due to chin to philtrum ratio?

 

[Deleted member 17791]

You think women see it the Same way? I dont thibk i look cute tbh.

Hmm. Having a cute face on its own isn't going to give you sexual attraction, because well looking like a baby isn't sexy. You need sexy traits in combination with cuteness to be considered desirable

No. His face is babyish. Nothing to do with his skull

Having a large neuro cranium proportionally to the face is literally what makes you look babyish., jfl at you. I've spent a lot of time studying neotenous aesthetics. That and small jaw is what makes a face 'cute'

 

[bleksandre]

get Lefort 1 with downward graft and you will ascend hard. Perhaps a slightly longer chin.
You don't need that much but it will help harmony so hard.
Just like this guy:

Benjamin: Te korte bovenkaak, overbeet - Kaakchirurgie - Dr Joël Defrancq

Dr Joël Defrancq, kaak- & aangezichtschirurgie en tandheelkundige implantaten.

facialsculptureclinic.com

Dunno about your side profile but I think it's okay looking at the front so you don't need any advancement forward.
You are already softmaxed looking at photos.
Just normal longevity stuff, like skincare and anti hairloss.
For eyes you got negative cantal tilt, but that can be fixed to.

Currently I would say high tier normie.

you must be joking

 

[Deleted member 20519]

Brutal eye area get filers to make them sharper ezly a chad lite after the filers

 

[kopper]

You have narrow lips so is supect narrow dental arch/palate. Send pic where u smile

 

[kopper]

How old are you?

Show your palate by opening your mouth. I think you have a narow jaws, but it i hard to tell without seeing it.

 

[Deleted member 19798]

It’s not looking good

 

[Pumanator]

you must be joking

I think his midface is slightly too short. Not by a lot but a little bit. That gives the boyish neoteny look. Fixing that would help so much.

 

[kopper]

ramus lengthening surgery

I always thought my ramus length was fine tbh. Isnt it just my chin?

 

[Deleted member 17791]

Pseudo science

ffs, you're always so argumentative.

You're just doing this because of my gender identity.

 

[kopper]

get Lefort 1 with downward graft and you will ascend hard. Perhaps a slightly longer chin.
You don't need that much but it will help harmony so hard.
Just like this guy:

Benjamin: Te korte bovenkaak, overbeet - Kaakchirurgie - Dr Joël Defrancq

Dr Joël Defrancq, kaak- & aangezichtschirurgie en tandheelkundige implantaten.

facialsculptureclinic.com

Dunno about your side profile but I think it's okay looking at the front so you don't need any advancement forward.
You are already softmaxed looking at photos.
Just normal longevity stuff, like skincare and anti hairloss.
For eyes you got negative cantal tilt, but that can be fixed to.

Currently I would say high tier normie.

Ive been Looking into that surgery and want to talk with my surgeon about it soon.
Why do you think other people on here rate me way lower than you?

 

[ogg]

I'll rate 2/10 at best

 

[rand anon]

Babyfaced Matt Damon with NCT

 

[Mouthbreath]

Indeed both upper and lower jaws are very narrow. Your upper front teeth look nice, I imagine you had braces. If you stop wearing them for a few years, they will inevitably start crowding though.

In any case the best thing would be mse and imdo in my opinion. Then bimax with genioplasty.

 

[CursedOne]

Germany

Average guy

ignor die Anderen. Du bist ein durchschnittstyp. Das Problem ist, dass du keine Slayer feautures hast.

 

[kopper]

I'll rate 2/10 at best

Can you explain?

 

[kopper]

Average guy

ignor die Anderen. Du bist ein durchschnittstyp. Das Problem ist, dass du keine Slayer feautures hast.

Denkst du, das wäre möglich für mich, welche zu bekommen?

 

[kopper]

Indeed both upper and lower jaws are very narrow. Your upper front teeth look nice, I imagine you had braces. If you stop wearing them for a few years, they will inevitably start crowding though.

In any case the best thing would be mse and imdo in my opinion. Then bimax with genioplasty.

Didnt have braces. Been looking into mse and imdo but Not yet contacted anyone. I will do that. What bimax movements do I need?

 

[St.TikTokcel]

Average guy

ignor die Anderen. Du bist ein durchschnittstyp. Das Problem ist, dass du keine Slayer feautures hast.

Es ist vorbei für ihn. Brutal.

 

[ChristianChad]

Very significant dental arches. You can get EASE procedure done in Germany for 5K Euro and it's most reliable for widening palate. Also look into MSDO/MMDO providers

 

[Corleone]

you look like a baby

A sad baby. The eyes are killing you.

 

[ChristianChad]

Very significant dental arches. You can get EASE procedure done in Germany for 5K Euro and it's most reliable for widening palate. Also look into MSDO/MMDO providers

*Buccal corridors, not dental arches

I am a retard

 

[kopper]

Didnt have braces. Been looking into mse and imdo but Not yet contacted anyone. I will do that. What bimax movements do I need?

Any recommendations who I should contact for mse and imdo?

 

[kopper]

Very significant dental arches. You can get EASE procedure done in Germany for 5K Euro and it's most reliable for widening palate. Also look into MSDO/MMDO providers

Ill look into that procedure

 

[kopper]

A sad baby. The eyes are killing you.

How much would I improve by making my hooding neutral?

 

[ogg]

Can you explain?

Practice good posture and TREAT your skin . Also you have a baby face and stop being sad it reflects on your face

 

[ChristianChad]

Any recommendations who I should contact for mse and imdo?

MSE is inferior for palate widening especially if you are over 15 years of age

IMDO is very expensive but I know of a provider in Mexico

 

[Pumanator]

Ive been Looking into that surgery and want to talk with my surgeon about it soon.
Why do you think other people on here rate me way lower than you?

You got good soft features and good bigonial width. Also decent pheno. Usually, people's rating here is all over the place or extremely harsh.

You got good bones and potential.
Looking back I would say the midface is slightly too short and bigonial angle too low
(everyone here gets bashed for having too long midface and downward grown face so that's why I get hate for it). For you, it's the opposite But if anyone wanna discuss it or doesn't agree with it it's okay. Just give arguments and I change my opinion if you are right.

About jaw angle check 5.45. Yours is like +-105?

Thats also the reason why your chin is so short. Not sure about doing anti clockwise rotation of jaw since it reduce the airway capacity. So compensating with longer chin is safer I guess?

The other guys are indeed telling truth about your mouth width and palette width.

 

[kopper]

Practice good posture and TREAT your skin . Also you have a baby face and stop being sad it reflects on your face

Im doing that. What is so bad about my Skin? Ill get fillers soon to remove the scars, but i dont see more Problems that that rn. There's one pic in there where I am smiling a bit. Do I look bester in that one?

 

[kopper]

MSE is inferior for palate widening especially if you are over 15 years of age

IMDO is very expensive but I know of a provider in Mexico

Can you pm me the Provider?

 

[Mouthbreath]

Didnt have braces. Been looking into mse and imdo but Not yet contacted anyone. I will do that. What bimax movements do I need?

Ok I didnt expect that. My jaw looks somewhat similar to yours so I'm trying to figure that out as well. Maybe typical advancements used to SFS, would have to see your x rays to know more. You're 19 I think you can ascend honestly. Not sure about the eye area though.

 

[kopper]

You got good soft features and good bigonial width. Also decent pheno. Usually, people's rating here is all over the place or extremely harsh.

You got good bones and potential.
Looking back I would say the midface is slightly too short and bigonial angle too low
(everyone here gets bashed for having too long midface and downward grown face so that's why I get hate for it). For you, it's the opposite But if anyone wanna discuss it or doesn't agree with it it's okay. Just give arguments and I change my opinion if you are right.

About jaw angle check 5.45. Yours is like +-105?

Thats also the reason why your chin is so short. Not sure about doing anti clockwise rotation of jaw since it reduce the airway capacity. So compensating with longer chin is safer I guess?

The other guys are indeed telling truth about your mouth width and palette width.

My jaw angle is approx 105 if i remember correctly. I agree with you that my midface is too small. I can obly rallye fix that with lefort 1 downgraft as you said right? I will get more chin height regardless because i need it (it's probably modtly about my midface though as you said)

 

[kopper]

Ok I didnt expect that. My jaw looks somewhat similar to yours so I'm trying to figure that out as well. Maybe typical advancements used to SFS, would have to see your x rays to know more. You're 19 I think you can ascend honestly. Not sure about the eye area though.

I dont have my x rays available rn, but i definitely dont need any forward movement in any of my jaws according to xrays. Its just my chin that makes my mandible look recessed

 

[ogg]

Im doing that. What is so bad about my Skin? Ill get fillers soon to remove the scars, but i dont see more Problems that that rn. There's one pic in there where I am smiling a bit. Do I look bester in that one?

Yeah the scars and just make sure to apply sunscreen and moisturize . It looks pale and unhealthy idk

 

[Pumanator]

My jaw angle is approx 105 if i remember correctly. I agree with you that my midface is too small. I can obly rallye fix that with lefort 1 downgraft as you said right? I will get more chin height regardless because i need it (it's probably modtly about my midface though as you said)

The midface length yes. The bigonial angle I don't know.
You need to consider the following carefully:
- Your philtrum is really long
- your nose length is really short

If those 2 parameters change negatively because of downward graft it won't look nice. Perhaps there is some kind of surgery to make your nose longer vertically and philtrum length shorter while getting downward.

 

[kopper]

Ok I didnt expect that. My jaw looks somewhat similar to yours so I'm trying to figure that out as well. Maybe typical advancements used to SFS, would have to see your x rays to know more. You're 19 I think you can ascend honestly. Not sure about the eye area though.

how does my eye look in this picture?

 

[Kroker]

Over

@TRUE_CEL warn this faggot

 

[kopper]

Yeah the scars and just make sure to apply sunscreen and moisturize . It looks pale and unhealthy idk

True, I will try to tan a bit next summer with MT2 and see if it helps

 

[kopper]

The midface length yes. The bigonial angle I don't know.
You need to consider the following carefully:
- Your philtrum is really long
- your nose length is really short

If those 2 parameters change negatively because of downward graft it won't look nice. Perhaps there is some kind of surgery to make your nose longer vertically and philtrum length shorter while getting downward.

I see. Ill mention that when i have my next consultation

 

[Gengar]

@TRUE_CEL warn this faggot

thanks for bringing it to my attention, consider it done (first one is verbal though)

 

[Kroker]

thanks for bringing it to my attention, consider it done (first one is verbal though)

Dw MOD, I really appreciate this new rule!

You're really about to make this place a better one, no real constructive criticism only trolls.

Is there an easier way to notify you about such rule breakers? Like a report ticket and @You?

 

[kopper]

The midface length yes. The bigonial angle I don't know.
You need to consider the following carefully:
- Your philtrum is really long
- your nose length is really short

If those 2 parameters change negatively because of downward graft it won't look nice. Perhaps there is some kind of surgery to make your nose longer vertically and philtrum length shorter while getting downward.

Do you think my nose would look longer if there was more Bone were the Blue arrow is?

 

[Gengar]

Dw MOD, I really appreciate this new rule!

You're really about to make this place a better one, no real constructive criticism only trolls.

Is there an easier way to notify you about such rule breakers? Like a report ticket and @You?

im glad you really appreciate, thats really nice to hear actually haha, i thought maybe i was being a party pooper or something but im glad its been met with open arms instead. and yes you can hit the report button and itll be assigned to me and i can take care of the rest ill have to take notes of whos already gotten their verbal warning so i can give actual warnings to those who violate the rule more than once

 

[kopper]

Do you think my nose would look longer if there was more Bone were the Blue arrow is?

Wrong picture

 

[kopper]

The midface length yes. The bigonial angle I don't know.
You need to consider the following carefully:
- Your philtrum is really long
- your nose length is really short

If those 2 parameters change negatively because of downward graft it won't look nice. Perhaps there is some kind of surgery to make your nose longer vertically and philtrum length shorter while getting downward.

If there was more bone at blue arrow and my nosetip was smaller, do you thibk my nose would then look longer? And would that help?

 

[Mouthbreath]

how does my eye look in this picture?

Your eye area rn now looks like shit. It might be fixable without surgery though, just by being happier. => which over time will lead to the usage of different muscles around your eyes, changing how they look. Some things like your medial canthus and NCT cant be fixed hat way obviously.

 

[kopper]

Your eye area rn now looks like shit. It might be fixable without surgery though, just by being happier. => which over time will lead to the usage of different muscles around your eyes, changing how they look. Some things like your medial canthus and NCT cant be fixed hat way obviously.

So i should train my eye muscles? I can try. Is there a program you recommend or should i just look on yt?

 

[Pumanator]

If there was more bone at blue arrow and my nosetip was smaller, do you thibk my nose would then look longer? And would that help?

Don't think that will work. Your nose needs some length downward to make philtrum shorter.

Regarding the downward graft the cut is made here:

So longer philtrum length if vertical length is added at the cut?

Regarding the nose length there are options to make it longer:

But I would advise you to photoshop things first before you decide what to get. Multiple opinions and approaches here.

 

[Mouthbreath]

So i should train my eye muscles? I can try. Is there a program you recommend or should i just look on yt?

You would have to figure it out yourself, there is no such information. If you train the right muscles for 10 minutes a day but then subconsciously use the wrong ones through out the rest of the day, then it might not work though

 

[Deleted member 19157]

whats up with these mfers who were supposed to look like Leo D but caught the bad end of the gene pool. LTN, your base isnt terrbile though.