Realistic Surgery Plan. (Zero Cope)

[jabr]

The Procedures I will get.
- Double jaw surgery + Genioplasty
- Custom Infraorbital Rim Implants
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I call this my realistic surgery plan because I am fixing issues I can actually fix without looking uncanny.
My Flaws (Structural facial flaws)
I have a recessed mandible and slightly recessed maxilla, and my chin can be nonexistent at some times hence the genioplasty

my infras are recessed, I have the Tear through Nasojugal Groove and the midcheek Groove.

My zygomatic arch is not very prominent

My Strengths
I have a very good brow ridge

My eye area ( minus the undereye) is very good

My jaw is wide, bone dense and masculine (despite the recession, which the djs and genioplasty will fix)

My ramus is at the optimal position

My cheekbones (despite the recession and lack of density) are high set.

The Plan
I will get the double jaw and genioplasty early summer 2027
I will get the infraorbital rim implants 6-12 months later depending on how bad the swelling is

in my opinion, these are the only two problems I could REALLY fix without risking a botchjob or looking very uncanny.
coping would be me thinking I go from HMTN to Chadlite, I plan on ascending to MHTN or HHTN
I will not be sharing pictures, take my word for what it is, I am transparent here.

 

[Usurper]

Have you had consultations for this?

 

[jabr]

Have you had consultations for this?

plan on having the first consultations in october

 

[Dydargas_]

plan on having the first consultations in october

with whom?

 

[Usurper]

plan on having the first consultations in october

ok but you may need pre-op ortho which will delay

 

[jabr]

with whom?

local center specialized for these endeavors

 

[jabr]

ok but you may need pre-op ortho which will delay

we shall see. I had 3 years of braces, that may help.

 

[zombi3]

The Procedures I will get.
- Double jaw surgery + Genioplasty
- Custom Infraorbital Rim Implants
-----------------------------------------------
I call this my realistic surgery plan because I am fixing issues I can actually fix without looking uncanny.
My Flaws (Structural facial flaws)
I have a recessed mandible and slightly recessed maxilla, and my chin can be nonexistent at some times hence the genioplasty

my infras are recessed, I have the Tear through Nasojugal Groove and the midcheek Groove.

My zygomatic arch is not very prominent

My Strengths
I have a very good brow ridge

My eye area ( minus the undereye) is very good

My jaw is wide, bone dense and masculine (despite the recession, which the djs and genioplasty will fix)

My ramus is at the optimal position

My cheekbones (despite the recession and lack of density) are high set.

The Plan
I will get the double jaw and genioplasty early summer 2027
I will get the infraorbital rim implants 6-12 months later depending on how bad the swelling is

in my opinion, these are the only two problems I could REALLY fix without risking a botchjob or looking very uncanny.
coping would be me thinking I go from HMTN to Chadlite, I plan on ascending to MHTN or HHTN
I will not be sharing pictures, take my word for what it is, I am transparent here.

dude please dont jump to the gun this quickly bro. Don't end up like those roiders that go in with the expectations of getting forward growth but end up with closed growth plates and unideal bone protrusion from weird angles.

Anyone who says is cope have simply not done it, and, if they have then they weren't doing it enough. 1 time a day isnt enough sometimes, I do it every 2 hours of the day.

Look at this, ppl on this forum were too dumbstuck to believe thst this was a transformation, they even said he got this from filler. My point is pls try bs before you do something irreversible

Spoiler: 🔨 Transformation

Don't hardmax yet

 

[jabr]

dude please dont jump to the gun this quickly bro. Don't end up like those roiders that go in with the expectations of getting forward growth but end up with closed growth plates and unideal bone protrusion from weird angles.

Anyone who says is cope have simply not done it, and, if they have then they weren't doing it enough. 1 time a day isnt enough sometimes, I do it every 2 hours of the day.

Look at this, ppl on this forum were too dumbstuck to believe thst this was a transformation, they even said he got this from filler. My point is pls try bs before you do something irreversible

Spoiler: 🔨 Transformation

View attachment 5638226View attachment 5638227

Don't hardmax yet

I take my health very seriously so steroids is something I will never touch, in terms of softmaxxing I have been eating and living optimally for about 2 years now, which has affected my dimorphism greatly. in terms of bonesmashing I personally do not believe that it will help with y personal issues, bonesmashing won't mimic the effect of a double jaw surgery and genioplasty, bonesmashing will not mimic the effect of infraorbital rim implants.

 

[zombi3]

bonesmashing won't mimic the effect of a double jaw surgery and genioplasty, bonesmashing will not mimic the effect of infraorbital rim implants.

Yes, this is fact unfortunately. The maxilla is the hardest thing to fraud imo. Dang that's sad.

But still, cant you get rid of the genioplasty and simply smash your gonions and chin instead. The results are practically the same if not better if done correctly??

Since its not bone and rather hardened tissue, the growth and protrusion is fully customizable no?

 

[jabr]

Yes, this is fact unfortunately. The maxilla is the hardest thing to fraud imo. Dang that's sad.

But still, cant you get rid of the genioplasty and simply smash your gonions and chin instead. The results are practically the same if not better if done correctly??

Since its not bone and rather hardened tissue, the growth and protrusion is fully customizable no?

you see, my jaw and chin are pretty bone dense, they are thick when I jut my jaw forward and so on, it is just that the forward projection is very off, i don't need much new bone, just repositionment (forward), but much more than what bonesmashing can achieve

 

[Usurper]

we shall see. I had 3 years of braces, that may help.

Not only it does not help but makes things worse.

 

[jabr]

Not only it does not help but makes things worse.

how so? explain in detail

 

[Assymetry]

how so? explain in detail

That means you got camouflaged, so you will probably need relatively long decomp.

 

[Assymetry]

You don't have a wide mandible.

 

[Usurper]

how so? explain in detail

Standard orthodontics positions teeth to compensate for skeletal deficiencies. Pre-op decompensation orthodontics position teeth in their ideal bone position.

This means movements done previously will have to be reverted.

Ngl the way you wrote your OP gave me bad vibes. You start talking about dates and all, with no consideration of pre-op treatments or surgeon's schedules. On top of saying a lof of "I will" without even having a consultation.

 

[cold_nano]

Yes, this is fact unfortunately. The maxilla is the hardest thing to fraud imo. Dang that's sad.

But still, cant you get rid of the genioplasty and simply smash your gonions and chin instead. The results are practically the same if not better if done correctly??

Since its not bone and rather hardened tissue, the growth and protrusion is fully customizable no?

Check pm bhai

 

[Usurper]

dude please dont jump to the gun this quickly bro. Don't end up like those roiders that go in with the expectations of getting forward growth but end up with closed growth plates and unideal bone protrusion from weird angles.

Anyone who says is cope have simply not done it, and, if they have then they weren't doing it enough. 1 time a day isnt enough sometimes, I do it every 2 hours of the day.

Look at this, ppl on this forum were too dumbstuck to believe thst this was a transformation, they even said he got this from filler. My point is pls try bs before you do something irreversible

Spoiler: 🔨 Transformation

View attachment 5638226View attachment 5638227

Don't hardmax yet

Unreal this lvl of bs

 

[jabr]

You don't have a wide mandible.

very bold of you to say without any pictures. I have nothing to lie about on here I am completely transparent, I admitted to having a recessed mandible, maxilla and infraorbitals, but my mandible is most definitely average to wide, despite the braces.

 

[jabr]

That means you got camouflaged, so you will probably need relatively long decomp.

we shall see, if that is so if I have to wait for over a year and a half, I will get the infraorbital rim implants before getting the double jaw ( if possible)

 

[Assymetry]

we shall see, if that is so if I have to wait for over a year and a half, I will get the infraorbital rim implants before getting the double jaw ( if possible)

It is possible, but why not combine?

 

[Assymetry]

very bold of you to say without any pictures. I have nothing to lie about on here I am completely transparent, I admitted to having a recessed mandible, maxilla and infraorbitals, but my mandible is most definitely average to wide, despite the braces.

I thought that random attachment was you, that comment of mine was giga retarted.

 

[jabr]

It is possible, but why not combine?

I don't want the swelling to last a year, I will be patient do one thing at a time, and in a two year timespan I would have achieved my goal. Also won't combining raise the prices? and you have to find a surgeon that will agree to doing the combined surgeries too, and I don't plan on going to turkey or anywhere where I could get botched with no consequence

 

[Assymetry]

I don't want the swelling to last a year, I will be patient do one thing at a time, and in a two year timespan I would have achieved my goal. Also won't combining raise the prices? and you have to find a surgeon that will agree to doing the combined surgeries too, and I don't plan on going to turkey or anywhere where I could get botched with no consequence

Combining will ofc be cheaper total than getting them seperately. Do you already have a surgeon for your infras? If you want custom, it takes about a year from personal experience (I am in the process in EU).

 

[jabr]

I thought that random attachment was you, that comment of mine was giga retarted.

Combining will ofc be cheaper total than getting them seperately. Do you already have a surgeon for your infras? If you want custom, it takes about a year from personal experience (I am in the process in EU).

but what about the risk factor, I am willing to spend more if it means I won't get botched, I am also in the EU area

 

[jabr]

Standard orthodontics positions teeth to compensate for skeletal deficiencies. Pre-op decompensation orthodontics position teeth in their ideal bone position.

This means movements done previously will have to be reverted.

Ngl the way you wrote your OP gave me bad vibes. You start talking about dates and all, with no consideration of pre-op treatments or surgeon's schedules. On top of saying a lof of "I will" without even having a consultation.

Whatever the case I will see after the consultation, whenever I was saying "I will" it was under "The Plan" which as of now isn't concrete in terms of dates and so on. ( I haven't had the first consultation yet)