religion is stupidity

[lookismfugee]

what's the point of this saying? are you just trying to call us all ugly? No shit, this is an incel forum

lol

 

[Deleted member 2352]

How can you actually believe in god
You have to be retarded and out of reality

 

[Chintuck22]

You are stupidity

If people were religious, and lived according to bible, you wouldn't have inceldom, trueceldom, crimes, none of that bullshit.

 

[Krezo]

Abrahamic religious God doesn't make sense, whats the reason for humans to be created? At least in the Quran it says that we are only created to worship him and after that we just go into this heaven or hell forever, what kind of existence is that? Just makes zero sense. Also the biggest contradiction in the abrahamic religions is how God knows exactly what you will do and where you will end up in but he still decided to make you and put you on this world, he knew some people would end up being atheist and end up in hell yet he still created them. He is not all-good

That's known as the omniscience paradox. There is an answer but it's a little complicated and if you're not well read on philosophy you might not understand it but I'll go ahead anyway.

God is said to be atemporal, that is he doesn't exist in time but outside of it. Therefore every single 'moment' of existence is present to God, part of his eternal 'now'. This means that some event in the future to us is present to God. God is atemporally aware of today and 50 years in the future simultaneously. God knows future events because all temporal events (things happening in time) are present to god (since exists outside of time). God's knowledge is therefore not in time. He does not know anthing 'now' in the temporal sense. God does not see future events before they happen because there is no 'before' for God (since he exists atemporally). God can only ever know what is happening as it is happening. Therefore free will is compatible with God's omniscience

U mirin my philosophy skills @streege?

 

[Deleted member 5522]

You are stupidity

If people were religious, and lived according to bible, you wouldn't have inceldom, trueceldom, crimes, none of that bullshit.

Impossible to live by a set of contradictory rules

 

[Chadelite]

IF PEOPLE FOLLOWED ISLAM THEN THERE WOULD NEVER BE INCELDOM JFL

 

[Deleted member 2205]

IF PEOPLE FOLLOWED ISLAM THEN THERE WOULD NEVER BE INCELDOM JFL

Islam is for cucks

 

[Chadelite]

Islam is for cucks

4 STACY VIRGIN WIVES = CUCK?

IF YOU WIN A WAR YOU KEEP THE WOMEN AS CONCUBINES (WHICH IS FAIR YOU WON FFS)

IF YOUR WIFE CHEATS ON YOU SHE GETS STONED TO DEATH

PRE MARITAL SEX = 100 LASHES IN PUBLIC

ISLAM IS BASED ALPHA BEST AND ONLY TRUE RELIGION

 

[Deleted member 2205]

4 STACY VIRGIN WIVES = CUCK?

IF YOU WIN A WAR YOU KEEP THE WOMEN AS CONCUBINES (WHICH IS FAIR YOU WON FFS)

IF YOUR WIFE CHEATS ON YOU SHE GETS STONED TO DEATH

PRE MARITAL SEX = 100 LASHES IN PUBLIC

ISLAM IS BASED ALPHA BEST AND ONLY TRUE RELIGION

pastafarianism mogs

 

[MiroslavBulldosex]

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You mean

 

[Aesthetics_III]

religion claims god is "perfect".

What standard of perfection are they comparing God to?

Religion claims god is "just:

What standard are you comparing God to in terms of "justice"

The only truth is nihlism. But your egos won't let you accept that

 

[Entschuldigung]

guys stop that's cringe
where we are? twitter jfl

 

[MiroslavBulldosex]

4 STACY VIRGIN WIVES = CUCK?

IF YOU WIN A WAR YOU KEEP THE WOMEN AS CONCUBINES (WHICH IS FAIR YOU WON FFS)

IF YOUR WIFE CHEATS ON YOU SHE GETS STONED TO DEATH

PRE MARITAL SEX = 100 LASHES IN PUBLIC

ISLAM IS BASED ALPHA BEST AND ONLY TRUE RELIGION

Islam works so well that the sex-starved muslim men flood Europe so they can rape white women.

 

[Deleted member 534]

Sometimes I agree with you ngl

Because why god made people with 70IQ and ugly and short while other people are tall,north Atlantid and 120IQ?

There is no justice in this world man
Genetic is random, everything is random

But I don’t want to be an atheist because I’m afraid of hell ngl

But you got a solid point.

 

[SayNoToRotting]

u missed the point of religion

the herd, majority of the people, needs guidance and religion fills that spot

A bluepill basically.

 

[BonesAndHarmony]

Are people still discussing about religion in 2020? I grew out of this ''snobbish atheist anticonformist high IQ wannabe'' phase a long time ago. Of course religion doesn't make any sense but it's useful as it gives guidance to people. Without religion humanity falls into a spiral of nihilism, meaninglessness and mindless hedonism. As I've always been saying, coping is the driving force of humanity. That being said, I personally would rather know what the truth is without coping and shoot myself than lead a life based on copes and comfortable lies.

 

[Arkantos]

the jews man

 

[lookismfugee]

4 STACY VIRGIN WIVES = CUCK?

IF YOU WIN A WAR YOU KEEP THE WOMEN AS CONCUBINES (WHICH IS FAIR YOU WON FFS)

IF YOUR WIFE CHEATS ON YOU SHE GETS STONED TO DEATH

PRE MARITAL SEX = 100 LASHES IN PUBLIC

ISLAM IS BASED ALPHA BEST AND ONLY TRUE RELIGION

mashallah brother. may allah release his wrath on worthless westerners indeed

 

[SMVbender]

you are a degenerate

 

[TsarTsar444]

That's known as the omniscience paradox. There is an answer but it's a little complicated and if you're not well read on philosophy you might not understand it but I'll go ahead anyway.

God is said to be atemporal, that is he doesn't exist in time but outside of it. Therefore every single 'moment' of existence is present to God, part of his eternal 'now'. This means that some event in the future to us is present to God. God is atemporally aware of today and 50 years in the future simultaneously. God knows future events because all temporal events (things happening in time) are present to god (since exists outside of time). God's knowledge is therefore not in time. He does not know anthing 'now' in the temporal sense. God does not see future events before they happen because there is no 'before' for God (since he exists atemporally). God can only ever know what is happening as it is happening. Therefore free will is compatible with God's omniscience

U mirin my philosophy skills @streege?

I already knew about this, but still completely doesn't make sense, why would God create simple creatures like us just yo test us or something, why would he care? He is everything basically, creator of everything so why would he randomly make a whole hell to punish humans because they didn't believe in him?

Basically you are trying to give more credit to the Abrahamic God then there is already. For instance in thr Quran it has a verse where it says how one day of God is 1000 days on Earth, how does this make sense? Also think there is such thing in the bible, with the 6 days of creation lmao, present in Quran too. Apologists say this means 6 days in terms of God but why would God need days? These religion were cleary made by not the smartest humans back then, they literally didn't understand what true omnipotence meant

 

[Krezo]

I already knew about this, but still completely doesn't make sense, why would God create simple creatures like us just yo test us or something, why would he care? He is everything basically, creator of everything so why would he randomly make a whole hell to punish humans because they didn't believe in him?

Basically you are trying to give more credit to the Abrahamic God then there is already. For instance in thr Quran it has a verse where it says how one day of God is 1000 days on Earth, how does this make sense? Also think there is such thing in the bible, with the 6 days of creation lmao, present in Quran too. Apologists say this means 6 days in terms of God but why would God need days? These religion were cleary made by not the smartest humans back then, they literally didn't understand what true omnipotence meant

Fair enough. That is a question for Theology. I am not a Christian so I can't answer this.

 

[Deleted member 5143]

Religion and Islam is a guide to show humanity how to live. Think of the Quran as a instructional manual to show humans how to live their lives. Yes they are strict rules because we have to cut the roots of evil. Drinking,premartial sex, music ,gambling, interest etc.. all have negative consequences and are root to the devil likings. Islam and the Quran has the wisdom to tell us this stuff is haram (forbidden) because they are harmful to us and a society. Look at the west. The west can only be saved by Sharia Law. Islam is a way of life, tell us about our purpose of life, and what happens when we die and life after death. A lot of evidences within the Quran that suggest that’s it’s the word of God. And MUHAMMED is the final prophet of god. God sends prophets to humanity for guidance because man is lost.

 

[TsarTsar444]

Religion and Islam is a guide to show humanity how to live. Think of the Quran as a instructional manual to show humans how to live their lives. Yes they are strict rules because we have to cut the roots of evil. Drinking,premartial sex, music ,gambling, interest etc.. all have negative consequences and are root to the devil likings. Islam and the Quran has the wisdom to tell us this stuff is haram (forbidden) because they are harmful to us and a society. Look at the west. The west can only be saved by Sharia Law. Islam is a way of life, tell us about our purpose of life, and what happens when we die and life after death. A lot of evidences within the Quran that suggest that’s it’s the word of God. And MUHAMMED is the final prophet of god. God sends prophets to humanity for guidance because man is lost.

There are no evidences in the Quran bro, every thing about science there was already known in that time, like hundreds of years before the Prophet by Greeks and Egyptians. Also not only was it known it also was inaccurate. For instance in the Quran there is a ayet that says how "mountans were put on Earth to stop or lower earthquakes", thats literally opposite of truth, mountains themselves are result of places where there is high tectonic activity, and after they are formed the place doesn't magically become less active.

Also the ayets about creation of the Earth in Quran, it basically says how the Earth was created before the universe

41:10
And He placed on the earth firmly set mountains over its surface, and He blessed it and determined therein its [creatures'] sustenance in four days without distinction - for [the information] of those who ask

41:11
Then He directed Himself to the heaven while it was smoke and said to it and to the earth, "Come [into being], willingly or by compulsion." They said, "We have come willingly."

41:12
And He completed them as seven heavens within two days and inspired in each heaven its command. And We adorned the nearest heaven with lamps and as protection. That is the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing.

So basically, Earth and Heaven were a single entity once and then they were separated (this is the ayet the apologists state means the big bang lmao), after that the Earth was made in only 4 days and then God turned to the Smoke(Heaven) and he made from that 7 "Heavens" and adorned the lowest of these heavens with stars. Basically the lowest heavens are this Universe while the other 6 are the other world.

Many wrong things here, the Earth didn't take more then the universe to make, the Earth was created billions of yeats after the Bigbang, and stars are much older then Earth yet they were put into our universe after everything else was already made like mountains, creatures, rivers etc.

 

[Chadelite]

For instance in thr Quran it has a verse where it says how one day of God is 1000 days on Earth

where does it say this?

i've never heard of such BS before

quote the verse and surah when you make a claim against Islam

edit: i think you are talking abt 1 day on earth is 1000 years with God

if you are that is talking about the day of judgement - it will be 50k years long

but for the pious people it will feel like a hours

 

[Deleted member 4563]

where does it say this?

i've never heard of such BS before

quote the verse and surah when you make a claim against Islam

edit: i think you are talking abt 1 day on earth is 1000 years with God

if you are that is talking about the day of judgement - it will be 50k years long

but for the pious people it will feel like a hours

Is he not a muslim anymore? why is he making claims against islam?

 

[Chadelite]

There are no evidences in the Quran bro, every thing about science there was already known in that time, like hundreds of years before the Prophet by Greeks and Egyptians. Also not only was it known it also was inaccurate. For instance in the Quran there is a ayet that says how "mountans were put on Earth to stop or lower earthquakes", thats literally opposite of truth, mountains themselves are result of places where there is high tectonic activity, and after they are formed the place doesn't magically become less active.

Also the ayets about creation of the Earth in Quran, it basically says how the Earth was created before the universe

41:10
And He placed on the earth firmly set mountains over its surface, and He blessed it and determined therein its [creatures'] sustenance in four days without distinction - for [the information] of those who ask

41:11
Then He directed Himself to the heaven while it was smoke and said to it and to the earth, "Come [into being], willingly or by compulsion." They said, "We have come willingly."

41:12
And He completed them as seven heavens within two days and inspired in each heaven its command. And We adorned the nearest heaven with lamps and as protection. That is the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing.

So basically, Earth and Heaven were a single entity once and then they were separated (this is the ayet the apologists state means the big bang lmao), after that the Earth was made in only 4 days and then God turned to the Smoke(Heaven) and he made from that 7 "Heavens" and adorned the lowest of these heavens with stars. Basically the lowest heavens are this Universe while the other 6 are the other world.

Many wrong things here, the Earth didn't take more then the universe to make, the Earth was created billions of yeats after the Bigbang, and stars are much older then Earth yet they were put into our universe after everything else was already made like mountains, creatures, rivers etc.

also

prophet muhammad saw had prophecies that no one can deny

he SAW said "the barefoot bedouins will compete to build tall buildings"

JFL PROPHET MUHAMMAD SAW SAID THIS 1400+ YEARS AGO

50 YEARS AGO DUBAI LOOKED LIKE THIS:

NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THIS:

IN 50 YEARS DUBAI WENT FROM BEING A SHITHOLE DESERT TO HAVING THE TALLEST BUILDINGS IN THE WORLD

THIS COULDN'T HAVE BEEN A GUESS

YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE RETARDED TO BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE - LET ALONE A MAN WHO COULDN'T READ OR WRITE COULD GUESS SOMETHING LIKE THAT

THE TRUTH IS ALLAH (GOD) IS REAL AND PROPHET MUHAMMAD SAW IS THE FINAL PROPHET OF ALLAH AND ISLAM IS THE ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN

IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR A HUMAN AT ALL TO PULL SOMETHING THAT RIDICULOUS OUT OF THIN AIR

STOP COPING ISLAM IS THE TRUTH

YOU NEED TO FIX UR RELIGION LOL REPENT ASAP IT'S RAMADAN TOO

Is he not a muslim anymore? why is he making claims against islam?

IDK TBH

 

[TsarTsar444]

where does it say this?

i've never heard of such BS before

quote the verse and surah when you make a claim against Islam

edit: i think you are talking abt 1 day on earth is 1000 years with God

if you are that is talking about the day of judgement - it will be 50k years long

but for the pious people it will feel like a hours

Yeah 1000 years, but where does it talk in the Quran about Judgement day being 50k years? Wasn't it a hadith?

 

[Chadelite]

Yeah 1000 years, but where does it talk in the Quran about Judgement day being 50k years? Wasn't it a hadith?

IT IS A BASIC BELIEF IN ISLAM THAT JUDGEMENT DAY IS 50K YEARS LONG

@Tellem--t @IncelWithNoLuck @streege

JFL @TsarTsar444 BRO U NEED TO RESEARCH FIRST

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG IN ISLAM - IM NOT A SCHOLAR SO I CAN'T ANSWER MOST OF YOUR QUESTIONS - BUT I CAN LOOK FOR THE ANSWERS

 

[Deleted member 5143]

There are no evidences in the Quran bro, every thing about science there was already known in that time,

This is where you are severely wrong, the Quran has zero scienctifall errors btw I didn’t read that text because I know you don’t know the context behind the ayats. And you say everything was discovered by science well then you are gravely wrong. Technology to discover the the embryo or how the forelock of the head is responsible for lying didn’t exist, the Quran discovered this first. No way an Arab that couldn’t read or write know about this. So that means the Quran is a word of God

 

[Chadelite]

This is where you are severely wrong, the Quran has zero scienctifall errors btw I didn’t read that text because I know you don’t know the context behind the ayats. And you say everything was discovered by science well then you are gravely wrong. Technology to discover the the embryo or how the forelock of the head is responsible for lying the Quran discovered this first. No way an Arab that couldn’t read or write know about this. So that means the Quran is a word of God

bRO @TsarTsar444 IS COPING TOOO HARD

HE WILL LEARN HOPEFULLY IN THIS THREAD

IF HE DOESN'T HELL ISN'T A GOOD PLACE

 

[Blackout.xl]

You keep making these threads over and over, it’s almost as if you’re obsessed with religion. For something that’s so “shit” and “bluepilled”, you sure do talk about it much.

To answer your question, religion gives morals, meaning, necessary explanations and in general, guidance. Which is still relevant to the modern day because even atheists (western athiests) follow the same morals instilled into society by Christianity and Judaism

There was a really good argument for the existence of a higher being but I can't quite remember

Argument from fine tuning and argument from first cause maybe?

I already knew about this, but still completely doesn't make sense, why would God create simple creatures like us just yo test us or something, why would he care? He is everything basically, creator of everything so why would he randomly make a whole hell to punish humans because they didn't believe in him?

Basically you are trying to give more credit to the Abrahamic God then there is already. For instance in thr Quran it has a verse where it says how one day of God is 1000 days on Earth, how does this make sense? Also think there is such thing in the bible, with the 6 days of creation lmao, present in Quran too. Apologists say this means 6 days in terms of God but why would God need days? These religion were cleary made by not the smartest humans back then, they literally didn't understand what true omnipotence meant

The 6 days and scripture within genesis isn’t meant to be taken literally. It’s there to represent the relationship between god and humanity.

 

[Chadelite]

@TsarTsar444 @personalityinkwell CAN YOU DENY THIS?

NO YOU CAN'T LOL U CAN'T EVEN WATCH THIS OR REPLY TO MY COMMENTS

 

[Deleted member 6427]

yeah its kinda unnecessary

 

[TsarTsar444]

@TsarTsar444 @personalityinkwell CAN YOU DENY THIS?

NO YOU CAN'T LOL U CAN'T EVEN WATCH THIS OR REPLY TO MY COMMENTS

Im questioning religion in general, but i would still consider myself muslim for now

 

[Chadelite]

Im questioning religion in general, but i would still consider myself muslim for now

listen bro i gave u the evidence

islam is the real religion clearly but u do u

 

[lookismfugee]

yeah its kinda unnecessary

actually its neccesary.

 

[TsarTsar444]

This is where you are severely wrong, the Quran has zero scienctifall errors btw I didn’t read that text because I know you don’t know the context behind the ayats. And you say everything was discovered by science well then you are gravely wrong. Technology to discover the the embryo or how the forelock of the head is responsible for lying didn’t exist, the Quran discovered this first. No way an Arab that couldn’t read or write know about this. So that means the Quran is a word of God

Both Aristotle 1000 years before Quran and Galen 500 years before described embryology much more in detail then in the Quran bro. And the prophet used to travel frequently in the Greco-Roman Empire in his youth before 610

 

[Deleted member 6427]

actually its neccesary.

true tbh monogamy was at its peak when religion still mattered

 

[SHARK]

If something is "perfect", that means it is impossible to be disliked.

Many people dislike god.

Therefore, god is not perfect.

 

[Ritalincel]

Islam works so well that the sex-starved muslim men flood Europe so they can rape white women.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

You keep making these threads over and over

I think I've only made one other religion thread on this site. I have posted on other religion threads though

 

[Blackout.xl]

I think I've only made one other religion thread on this site. I have posted on other religion threads though

Cope I swear u made at least 2-3 other threads on this. It’s a beaten horse

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Cope I swear u made at least 2-3 other threads on this. It’s a beaten horse

You "swear" because you've seen me post in other people's threads.

You are stupidity

If people were religious, and lived according to bible, you wouldn't have inceldom, trueceldom, crimes, none of that bullshit.

cope. Incels have always existed. Just not to the degree they do today

But I don’t want to be an atheist because I’m afraid of hell ngl

this is understandable tbh

 

[Blackout.xl]

You "swear" because you've seen me post in other people's threads.

cope. Incels have always existed. Just not to the degree they do today

this is understandable tbh

The biggest truecels in the past had wives

 

[Deleted member 2597]

The biggest truecels in the past had wives

Exactly.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

The biggest truecels in the past had wives

king solomon had 1000 wives. not all men got a wife

you do realize that men outnumber women at birth? the gender ratio is about 105:100

 

[Blackout.xl]

king solomon had 1000 wives. not all men got a wife

you do realize that men outnumber women at birth? the gender ratio is about 105:100

It wasn’t based on looks back then, it was based on resources. You could of been a truecel and get a wife based on being able to provide for yourself and a family.

Not all men got a wife but it wouldn’t be because you’re ugly. It would be because you can’t provide and are useless

edit: religion also cracked down hard on that shit Muslim allowed 4 wives max

 

[Deleted member 4612]

It would be because you can’t provide and are useless

not every man was born in a decent situation. some were born in dog shit poverty and had no shot

 

[Blackout.xl]

not every man was born in a decent situation. some were born in dog shit poverty and had no shot

When I say resources it was relative to location and time. You didn’t have to be rich. You just had to have a place to live and a way to provide for yourself. This is even the case today in the 3rd world. So that isn’t much of an excuse

 

[Deleted member 4612]

When I say resources it was relative to location and time. You didn’t have to be rich. You just had to have a place to live and a way to provide for yourself. This is even the case today in the 3rd world. So that isn’t much of an excuse

well

you do realize that men outnumber women at birth? the gender ratio is about 105:100