Looksmax Short Mandibular Body + Long Bigonial Distance = Subhuman

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This is mainly why custom /off-to-shelf jaw implants looks like shit on some people. That's also why some people with good&big jaw looks like shit regardless.
They also cannot have hollow cheek since they have short mandibular body, there isn't enough space to create hollow unless they got giant protruding zygos.
That's why some people with implants look bloated but not hollow at all.

If you have short ramus, careful having big jaw implants. I first thought bad implant results mainly related with mouth size but no.
e.g. Johnny Depp has a small mouth , but he has a big jaw.


But he has a long, good Mandibular Body Length.




Recessed people has short mandibular body length in general. That's why they need bimax first and that's why Salieri's implant results are the best. He first do the osteotomy then the implant.
 
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randomvanish said:
yes, with only veritcal jaw angle implant, since there is no width, there won't be any uncanny look.

however it useless for most people. people need both length & width in general for looking attractive.
what if i need only width?i have decent ramus

would it look better than most?
 
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LastHopeForNorman said:
what if i need only width?i have decent ramus

would it look better than most?
if you have good ramus but recessed or short mandibular body, then you probably will look bloated.
 
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randomvanish said:
if you have good ramus but recessed or short mandibular body, then you probably will look bloated.
i need bimax and genio anyway
 
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randomvanish said:
This is mainly why custom /off-to-shelf jaw implants looks like shit on some people. That's also why some people with good&big jaw looks like shit regardless.
They also cannot have hollow cheek since they have short mandibular body, there isn't enough space to create hollow unless they got giant protruding zygos.
That's why some people with implants look bloated but not hollow at all.

If you have short ramus, careful having big jaw implants. I first thought bad implant results mainly related with mouth size but no.
e.g. Johnny Depp has a small mouth , but he has a big jaw.
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But he has a long, good Mandibular Body Length.
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Recessed people has short mandibular body length in general. That's why they need bimax first and that's why Salieri's implant results are the best. He first do the osteotomy then the implant.
does mandibular length mean length of chin and ramus??
 
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faggotchadlite said:
does mandibular length mean length of chin and ramus??
i saw some implant designs which add more length on the ramus part along with the earside but generally they won't do that.
see the picture below
 

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randomvanish said:
This is mainly why custom /off-to-shelf jaw implants looks like shit on some people. That's also why some people with good&big jaw looks like shit regardless.
They also cannot have hollow cheek since they have short mandibular body, there isn't enough space to create hollow unless they got giant protruding zygos.
That's why some people with implants look bloated but not hollow at all.

If you have short ramus, careful having big jaw implants. I first thought bad implant results mainly related with mouth size but no.
e.g. Johnny Depp has a small mouth , but he has a big jaw.
View attachment 1316100 View attachment 1316099

But he has a long, good Mandibular Body Length.
View attachment 1316102



Recessed people has short mandibular body length in general. That's why they need bimax first and that's why Salieri's implant results are the best. He first do the osteotomy then the implant.
what about downward grown ppl, they are recessed but have long jaws
 
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dnrd said:
what about downward grown ppl, they are recessed but have long jaws
don't think so. show examples
 
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thats what went wrong with tyrion
 
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"there isn't enough space to create hollow unless they got giant protruding zygos."

Let's fucking go, Eppley here I come :feelsez:
 
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I read somewhere that it was thick skin that caused the bloated look :feelswat:
 
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khvirgin said:
I read somewhere that it was thick skin that caused the bloated look :feelswat:
i doubt it. some people just fat/skinny fat and call themselves "thick skinned" btw.
dnrd said:
yeah he seems to have a long enough mandibular body tbh
AlwaysHaveQuestions said:
thats what went wrong with tyrion
who's that ? any b/a pics ?
 
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randomvanish said:
i doubt it. some people just fat/skinny fat and call themselves "thick skinned" btw.

yeah he seems to have a long enough mandibular body tbh

who's that ? any b/a pics ?
I plan to have jaw implants after my bimax, do you think having zygos implants too and not being recessed would save me from the bloated looks?
another thing I was thinking was getting just jaw implants, I feel most of the implants I've seen seem natural at the angles and not so much infront
but that depends on how my chin will look after the osteotomy
 
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randomvanish said:
if you have good ramus but recessed or short mandibular body, then you probably will look bloated.
pm me, pls
 
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khvirgin said:
I plan to have jaw implants after my bimax, do you think having zygos implants too and not being recessed would save me from the bloated looks?
another thing I was thinking was getting just jaw implants, I feel most of the implants I've seen seem natural at the angles and not so much infront
but that depends on how my chin will look after the osteotomy
i would rather go step by step. i got fillers to understand my face last week, in 2 months i'll get custom jaw implants (or maybe jaw angle +chin) and then i will get zygo implants.
i don't think anyone can precisely answer your questions, it needs proper investigation and making it small changes every procedure.
 
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randomvanish said:
i would rather go step by step. i got fillers to understand my face last week, in 2 months i'll get custom jaw implants (or maybe jaw angle +chin) and then i will get zygo implants.
i don't think anyone can precisely answer your questions, it needs proper investigation and making it small changes every procedure.
Are you gonna post the before/afters? you could censor anything except the filler areas
 
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randomvanish said:
yes, with only veritcal jaw angle implant, since there is no width, there won't be any uncanny look.

however it useless for most people. people need both length & width in general for looking attractive.
I think jaw implants that give height have a lot more potential than ones that give width. At least, that's my observation from looking at photos.
 
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Chinlet Ascension said:
I think jaw implants that give height have a lot more potential than ones that give width. At least, that's my observation from looking at photos.
i lack of width so i need width
 
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hollow cheeks is soft tissue mostly
 
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randomvanish said:
i had hollowish cheeks at near obesity with a short mandible
 
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TheEndHasNoEnd said:
i had hollowish cheeks at near obesity with a short mandible
then your zygos must be a compensative force to hollow cheek
 
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randomvanish said:
then your zygos must be a compensative force to hollow cheek
theyre wide and high set but definitely not forward projecting
 
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TheEndHasNoEnd said:
theyre wide and high set but definitely not forward projecting
How can u tell if they are foward projecting?
 
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Phillybeard1996 said:
How can u tell if they are foward projecting?
orbital vector and ogee curve
 
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Phillybeard1996 said:
Does he have a short mandible body?
randomvanish said:
no but he has a short chin and his gonial angle is nearly like 90 degree so it looks bad.
Is short chin and low gonial angle fixable with bimax cw?
 
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TheEndHasNoEnd said:
i had hollowish cheeks at near obesity with a short mandible
Any pics you can show me?
 
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changcel said:
Is short chin and low gonial angle fixable with bimax cw?
i'm not very sophisticated on bimax since i don't have that problems, i haven't research enough
 
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randomvanish said:
If you have short ramus, careful having big jaw implants
I need to chew on a megadose of K2 bruh
Ramus is life
 

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