So Many People are still coping with "Beauty is Subjective".

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when bluepilled people say, "beauty is subjective"
what they really mean is that coloring/styling choices are subjective, which is true (all of you know guys who all prefer different hair colors, it works the same for girls)
but the bones are objective
 
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when bluepilled people say, "beauty is subjective"
what they really mean is that coloring/styling choices are subjective, which is true (all of you know guys who all prefer different hair colors, it works the same for girls)
but the bones are objective
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It’s subjective after a certain point

I’d rather take this
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The only subjectiveness in beauty is if a woman prefers Brad Pitts or Henry Cavills face
well if some girls prefer brad over cavill thats means looks cant be fully objective..
 
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well if some girls prefer brad over cavill thats means looks cant be fully objective..
Both of them have 99% Objectively Ideal features.

Once you pass a threshold, ofc it's subjective.

But then again not really, studies show white women are percieved as more feminine and sttractive due to lighter skin.
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studies show white women are percieved as more feminine and sttractive due to lighter skin.
So that means I’m normal and niggas like @Ethereal and @AscendingHero are coping

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yea but there are women who say they dont find brad Pitt attractive at all. but they love DiCaprio for example. but yea the better features u have more girls will find u attractive
 
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I can't get over her lopface LMAO.

That's why she's always doing something with her lips in pics.

She's giga asymmetrical there.
@looksmaxxer234 ignore this coper

kate li absolutely makes lima invisible
 
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Some ridiculous shit.....you really think you're an incel because of "muh I have low appeal"?
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

What do you guys even think determines Appeal?

What is objectively attractive, will determine subjectivity.

STOP COPING.


I'm going to jump right into a few things.

1.) Nose
2.) Eye Area
3.) Skin Complexion
4.) Hair Texture
5.) Chin
6.) Maxilla



OH. MY. GOD. The cope I see about the nose.
"My boulbous nose is masculine"
"Hooked noses are masculine, so they aren't that bad"
"Upturned noses aren't a failo"
"Straight slim noses are feminine"

Are you guys fucking serious lol?


I'm going to breifly go over the 3 most important Nasal Angles.

Nasofrontal Angle.

This angle is SO important. It determines how projected your Nasal Bridge is from the skull. You have NO IDEA how much this influences the nose. Right away lemme show you the average black nose.


View attachment 1575418 View attachment 1575419View attachment 1575428
DO YOU SEE WHAT'S WRONG??????

That yucky nasal bridge "projection". If I can call it that.

Straight up, this is death tier bro.....you can INSANTLY tell when someone has shit nasal projection.

When a Black or Asian guy as even slight nasal bridge protrustion, you're one step closer to escaping deathnic nose camp.

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1st pic (127.9°) 2nd (126°)

They are barely within the ideal. Yet still, the difference is night & day.

The Ideal angle is 106 - 130. If you don't have this, I GUARENTEE your nose is below average.


Nasal Angle. Ideal is (105 - 113)

This angle is great for measuring the amount of bulbosity show you have in FRONT profile.

This is the average state of alar width of a black nose.

View attachment 1575435View attachment 1575436View attachment 1575437

This look "maScUlInE" to you bro?

The reason why blacks on average have this so bad, is due to the common nasal bridge.

Most blacks have a subhuman "Ski Slope" nasal bridge, which is very repulsive. If you have this rope immediately.

The "Nubian" nose SHAPE shouldn't be confused with the bridge of the nose though.

You can still have a Nubian nose with a straight bridge, that ski slope shit is SO bad tho.



The average ALAR WIDTH for African Americans........ 49±7mm.

Whilst, the avg ALAR WIDTH for Caucasians is 38±4mm

This is extremely serious bro......

For a black guy, if you got a straight nasal bridge and 42mm and under ALAR WIDTH.

You fuckin' winning rn.
View attachment 1575446
From 23 to 24. DO NOT DO THIS SHIT IN A SELFIE BRO LOL OK!!!!!! It's obv gonna be distorted.



Now for the shape.

As you seen above, those wide bulbous noses take on a WIDE U appearance. While the ideal nose is a triangle.

This is water shit, so I don't have to explain why a minimally boulbous triangle nose is superior.



Nasolabial Angle. Ideal is (93 - 115).

This angle determines how much nostril show you likely have in FRONT profile.

Overly shown nostrils are BAD BAD BAD!!!

I do not have to explain why this shit sucks. It's related to wide alar width & ski slope nasal bridge.

ATLEAST SOME Nasal Projection in side profile. Ideal Nasal Angles(obv). Slim Triangle Shape. Minimal to No Nostril show or bulbosity. A STRAIGHT NASAL BRIDGE YOU COPING FUCKS!!!


Eye Area

I haven't seen too much cope on this topic actually.

EXCEPT....."muh low appeal eye area".

You do realize that an objectively attractive trait, cannot possibly be low appeal?

Yes, I'm speaking of "Hunter Eyes".

You guys are coping out of your ass saying shit like "Hunter Eyes aren't ideal".

Then, y'all show a picture of bloated barrett to prove your point LMAO.

My point is, while non-fully hooded eyes are great, if someone has a good pair of hunter eyes. It's just as fucking good. Please stop coping.



Skin Complextion.

Ok, this might be the biggest thing besides the nose & maxilla.

It is OBJECTIVELY UNATTRACTIVE to have very dark skin or very pale skin.


White & Asian guys should be going for "Natural" with Red Undertones. AKA a Tan.
Black Guys should be going for Golden or Honey with Red Undertones. Commonly referred to as being "Red-Bone".

If you do not have these skin complexions, you're automatically at a lower starting point than someone who does.

Pale or Dark Brown skin is objectively unattractive, therefore having "loW ApPEaL". (See what I'm trying to get at?)



Hair Texture.

This is going to be super quick.

2c to 3c Hair Mogs.

There's no fucking question.

Having Frizzy and or Straight Thin hair is OBJECTIVELY UNATTRACTIVE.

Which means, you are at a disadvantage if you have the other hair types.



Chin

This pill is should be easy as fuck to swallow. Ethnics usually have plain recessed & SHORT chins.

Rope if your chin isn't 50mm + or FIX THAT SHIT.

Also, one thing is can vouch for is side profile projection for blacks. (Asians don't get this protection.)

There are plently have attractive black men with minimally projecting chins. That's because it's a caucasian feature, not a beauty standard.



Maxilla.

"mUh fORwArD gRowTH"
"bArReTt oR DeATH"
"i FoRWArd gRowTH mOg BaRrEtT"

Do you guys not realize how repulsive a fully projected maxilla is on men?

THAT'S A FEMININE TRAIT.

If you actually have a fully forward grown maxilla and are forward growth mogging FEMALES. ROPE.
View attachment 1575485View attachment 1575486

A very forward grown maxilla is a key trait to attaining a ANGEL SKULL.

Also, this shit 9/10 causes and overbite, THAT THEN GOES ON THE RECESS YOUR CHIN.

A horizontally well developed male, will NEVER forward growth mog a fucking female bro lmao.

So, this would make having a extremely forward grown maxilla an OBJECTIVELY UNATTRACTIVE trait.

Thus, making you have less "apPEal".




TLDR bro, If you're black and don't have a good nose, masculine forward growth, good orbitals, non recessed chin, and soft hair.

Your SMV is capped at fucking 5/10

TLDR for White ppl. If you don't fit your own beauty standards to a T. It's fucking over.

Like usual, I expect 99% of people to completely miss the point of this thread. The truth is.



Ethnics are predisposed to being OBJECTIVELY unattractive, therefore having less SUBJECTIVE appeal.

Same goes for Whites. The more OBJECTIVELY unattractive trait your face carries, the less SUBJECTIVE appeal your face will have.


If you can't understand this, it is way too over for you.

Beauty is not fucking Subjective idiots lmao.

@AscendingHero lol also, I didn't steal this thread from my sister. I wrote it.
Beauty is heavily subjective.
 
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well if some girls prefer brad over cavill thats means looks cant be fully objective..
After a certain point atleast. For example it’s hard to decide if Gandys or De poots eye area is objectively better because they both almost fulfill every aspect of a perfect eye area.

And when it comes to just appeal beauty definitely can become quite subjective.
Objectively speaking brad Pitts eye area is better. But that doesn’t mean that there won’t be some girls who prefer Cavills eyes
 
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Both of them have 99% Objectively Ideal features.

Once you pass a threshold, ofc it's subjective.

But then again not really, studies show white women are percieved as more feminine and sttractive due to lighter skin.
Muh studies

99.9999999% of men would turn into slobbering dogs in their presence
 
Fuark I have seen this Girl on Instagram :love:
I think she is german

This is what Dove Cameron wanted to look like after plastic surgery jfl.
 
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appeal beauty definitely can become quite subjecti
appeal is subjective yea. thats why different kind of men (masc, prettyboy) can Appeal to different women even if both are let's say 6psl
 
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Im not a man of big words.


It’s just heavily dependent on how we perceive a person.


For example if you watch a movie with Justin Timberlake, Time I think it’s called, he will be the best looking dude in the movie. There is a scene with Ian sommerhalder in it. Still Ian isn’t seen as the hot guy. Justin is. And he is rated as htn here. Ian a gigachad


Same for how I met your mother. You remember the karate guy who stole back his wife from Ted mosby? To me he was just a guy. Turns out that dude was actually Jason Lewis.


I have many more examples.


The most important one is there is no such thing as subjective best traits. Beauty is the overall appearance. For example Angelina Jolie’s jaw makes her so special and attractive. On paper that’s a bad feature.
 
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Don't think he means a subhuman will be seen as more attractive than gandy. But a foid might find one Chad attractive but another repulsive.
 
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Some ridiculous shit.....you really think you're an incel because of "muh I have low appeal"?
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

What do you guys even think determines Appeal?

What is objectively attractive, will determine subjectivity.

STOP COPING.


I'm going to jump right into a few things.

1.) Nose
2.) Eye Area
3.) Skin Complexion
4.) Hair Texture
5.) Chin
6.) Maxilla



OH. MY. GOD. The cope I see about the nose.
"My boulbous nose is masculine"
"Hooked noses are masculine, so they aren't that bad"
"Upturned noses aren't a failo"
"Straight slim noses are feminine"

Are you guys fucking serious lol?


I'm going to breifly go over the 3 most important Nasal Angles.

Nasofrontal Angle.

This angle is SO important. It determines how projected your Nasal Bridge is from the skull. You have NO IDEA how much this influences the nose. Right away lemme show you the average black nose.


View attachment 1575418 View attachment 1575419View attachment 1575428
DO YOU SEE WHAT'S WRONG??????

That yucky nasal bridge "projection". If I can call it that.

Straight up, this is death tier bro.....you can INSANTLY tell when someone has shit nasal projection.

When a Black or Asian guy as even slight nasal bridge protrustion, you're one step closer to escaping deathnic nose camp.

View attachment 1575430View attachment 1575431

1st pic (127.9°) 2nd (126°)

They are barely within the ideal. Yet still, the difference is night & day.

The Ideal angle is 106 - 130. If you don't have this, I GUARENTEE your nose is below average.


Nasal Angle. Ideal is (105 - 113)

This angle is great for measuring the amount of bulbosity show you have in FRONT profile.

This is the average state of alar width of a black nose.

View attachment 1575435View attachment 1575436View attachment 1575437

This look "maScUlInE" to you bro?

The reason why blacks on average have this so bad, is due to the common nasal bridge.

Most blacks have a subhuman "Ski Slope" nasal bridge, which is very repulsive. If you have this rope immediately.

The "Nubian" nose SHAPE shouldn't be confused with the bridge of the nose though.

You can still have a Nubian nose with a straight bridge, that ski slope shit is SO bad tho.



The average ALAR WIDTH for African Americans........ 49±7mm.

Whilst, the avg ALAR WIDTH for Caucasians is 38±4mm

This is extremely serious bro......

For a black guy, if you got a straight nasal bridge and 42mm and under ALAR WIDTH.

You fuckin' winning rn.
View attachment 1575446
From 23 to 24. DO NOT DO THIS SHIT IN A SELFIE BRO LOL OK!!!!!! It's obv gonna be distorted.



Now for the shape.

As you seen above, those wide bulbous noses take on a WIDE U appearance. While the ideal nose is a triangle.

This is water shit, so I don't have to explain why a minimally boulbous triangle nose is superior.



Nasolabial Angle. Ideal is (93 - 115).

This angle determines how much nostril show you likely have in FRONT profile.

Overly shown nostrils are BAD BAD BAD!!!

I do not have to explain why this shit sucks. It's related to wide alar width & ski slope nasal bridge.

ATLEAST SOME Nasal Projection in side profile. Ideal Nasal Angles(obv). Slim Triangle Shape. Minimal to No Nostril show or bulbosity. A STRAIGHT NASAL BRIDGE YOU COPING FUCKS!!!


Eye Area

I haven't seen too much cope on this topic actually.

EXCEPT....."muh low appeal eye area".

You do realize that an objectively attractive trait, cannot possibly be low appeal?

Yes, I'm speaking of "Hunter Eyes".

You guys are coping out of your ass saying shit like "Hunter Eyes aren't ideal".

Then, y'all show a picture of bloated barrett to prove your point LMAO.

My point is, while non-fully hooded eyes are great, if someone has a good pair of hunter eyes. It's just as fucking good. Please stop coping.



Skin Complextion.

Ok, this might be the biggest thing besides the nose & maxilla.

It is OBJECTIVELY UNATTRACTIVE to have very dark skin or very pale skin.


White & Asian guys should be going for "Natural" with Red Undertones. AKA a Tan.
Black Guys should be going for Golden or Honey with Red Undertones. Commonly referred to as being "Red-Bone".

If you do not have these skin complexions, you're automatically at a lower starting point than someone who does.

Pale or Dark Brown skin is objectively unattractive, therefore having "loW ApPEaL". (See what I'm trying to get at?)



Hair Texture.

This is going to be super quick.

2c to 3c Hair Mogs.

There's no fucking question.

Having Frizzy and or Straight Thin hair is OBJECTIVELY UNATTRACTIVE.

Which means, you are at a disadvantage if you have the other hair types.



Chin

This pill is should be easy as fuck to swallow. Ethnics usually have plain recessed & SHORT chins.

Rope if your chin isn't 50mm + or FIX THAT SHIT.

Also, one thing is can vouch for is side profile projection for blacks. (Asians don't get this protection.)

There are plently have attractive black men with minimally projecting chins. That's because it's a caucasian feature, not a beauty standard.



Maxilla.

"mUh fORwArD gRowTH"
"bArReTt oR DeATH"
"i FoRWArd gRowTH mOg BaRrEtT"

Do you guys not realize how repulsive a fully projected maxilla is on men?

THAT'S A FEMININE TRAIT.

If you actually have a fully forward grown maxilla and are forward growth mogging FEMALES. ROPE.
View attachment 1575485View attachment 1575486

A very forward grown maxilla is a key trait to attaining a ANGEL SKULL.

Also, this shit 9/10 causes and overbite, THAT THEN GOES ON THE RECESS YOUR CHIN.

A horizontally well developed male, will NEVER forward growth mog a fucking female bro lmao.

So, this would make having a extremely forward grown maxilla an OBJECTIVELY UNATTRACTIVE trait.

Thus, making you have less "apPEal".




TLDR bro, If you're black and don't have a good nose, masculine forward growth, good orbitals, non recessed chin, and soft hair.

Your SMV is capped at fucking 5/10

TLDR for White ppl. If you don't fit your own beauty standards to a T. It's fucking over.

Like usual, I expect 99% of people to completely miss the point of this thread. The truth is.



Ethnics are predisposed to being OBJECTIVELY unattractive, therefore having less SUBJECTIVE appeal.

Same goes for Whites. The more OBJECTIVELY unattractive trait your face carries, the less SUBJECTIVE appeal your face will have.


If you can't understand this, it is way too over for you.

Beauty is not fucking Subjective idiots lmao.

@AscendingHero lol also, I didn't steal this thread from my sister. I wrote it.
You say "objectively unattractive" a lot, but I see no objective data about it in your post.
Objective things are, for the most part, measurable in some shape or form; if you want people to believe you when you say something is objectively X, you need to provide something that proves your stance.
 
appeal is subjective yea. thats why different kind of men (masc, prettyboy) can Appeal to different women even if both are let's say 6psl
It also depends always on the whole face.

Like I said in the post before there will be girls who say that they prefer cavills eyes over Pitts.
But that’s maybe just because cavills face looks overall good and masc enough to „compensate“ for less hunterish eyes. And these same girl could find cavills eyes on a less robust skull less attractive.
 
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Im not a man of big words.


It’s just heavily dependent on how we perceive a person.


For example if you watch a movie with Justin Timberlake, Time I think it’s called, he will be the best looking dude in the movie. There is a scene with Ian sommerhalder in it. Still Ian isn’t seen as the hot guy. Justin is. And he is rated as htn here. Ian a gigachad


Same for how I met your mother. You remember the karate guy who stole back his wife from Ted mosby? To me he was just a guy. Turns out that dude was actually Jason Lewis.


I have many more examples.


The most important one is there is no such thing as subjective best traits. Beauty is the overall appearance. For example Angelina Jolie’s jaw makes her so special and attractive. On paper that’s a bad feature.
That's just status actor halo and mere exposure effect.

This explains why dudes like tom Holland are elevated to chad status in spite of being normie facially.
 
You say "objectively unattractive" a lot, but I see no objective data about it in your post.
Objective things are, for the most part, measurable in some shape or form; if you want people to believe you when you say something is objectively X, you need to provide something that proves your stance.
I could've included studies.

In reality, all I did was regurgitate things people already know.

You can search up each topic, and find plenty of studies for what I said here.
 
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Im not a man of big words.


It’s just heavily dependent on how we perceive a person.


For example if you watch a movie with Justin Timberlake, Time I think it’s called, he will be the best looking dude in the movie. There is a scene with Ian sommerhalder in it. Still Ian isn’t seen as the hot guy. Justin is. And he is rated as htn here. Ian a gigachad
This is a good take, and I can't actually deny it. What I can say is, this is a major outlier to the rule. It won't really happen in the situation of 2 normies or 2 chads etc.
Same for how I met your mother. You remember the karate guy who stole back his wife from Ted mosby? To me he was just a guy. Turns out that dude was actually Jason Lewis.
Same response.
I have many more examples.


The most important one is there is no such thing as subjective best traits. Beauty is the overall appearance. For example Angelina Jolie’s jaw makes her so special and attractive. On paper that’s a bad feature.
Her jaw isn't really a bad feature. It's only 86% to the Zygos, so it's still proportionate.

I believe if you took her jaw, and put it onto a becky, she'd look like shit. The entire facial harmony is important.
 
I could've included studies.

In reality, all I did was regurgitate things people already know.

You can search up each topic, and find plenty of studies for what I said here.
Yeah. People for the most part agree on who is and isn't attractive. Though you can't always predict whether a specific would find a guy attractive.

Also, we don't 100% know what makes a face attractive. There are certain things we haven't fully explained yet.
 
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