Spirituality question: why does the ego and anger exist?

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Carl Jung talked about the ego, the shadow, the persona (the dark side of the personality which includes anger), the Self and said that the goal of life is individuation, which is the integration of all these into one's life. It is the merging of the conscious and unconscious. As a man of the right, Jung was actually a supporter of the German Reich and "viewed regression as a necessary step towards individuation" (that is, the mass killing of Jewish civilians was to him the integration of the shadow).

The least one could infer was that Jung talked about seeing oneself above just the ego but also all the elements of the unconscious of a universal nature. We see many parallels of this statement in other religions.

In religions like Hinduism and Buddhism, however, they teach that anger is a demonic quality which should be avoided. From a Jungian perspective, this would be detrimental, as to avoid being angry when such complexes and instincts which originate in the personal and collective unconscious is essentially to repress it. Jung said that repressing unconscious elements is a bad thing and can lead to neurosis.

Either way, regardless of your belief, one must question from both perspectives why such elements as the ego and anger existed in the first place, and why God created them if they were so bad. From a Jungian perspective, the instincts of rage, anger and storm (the Wotan archetype) reside in the unconscious, and are therefore something you cannot consciously change but were born with. In this sense it would make a lot more sense to say we evolved from tribal peoples, than to say we were created by God, would it not?

Also, why does the ego exist in the first place if it is a bad thing? I get that the persona exists because that is what society forced upon us from a young age: it exists to allow us to fit in and function in society. But if ego is such a barrier to self improvement, self-realization, e.t.c. to so many people then why does it exist or was created in the first place?
Can the existence of the ego be tied to the symbolism of the fall of Atlantis by the practice of dark magic, or the fall of Adam and Eve from the tree of life caused by their disobedience to God?
 
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Ambition and force.

The former drives you to seek and achieve greatness [very broad ik but you get the idea].

The latter is usually, though not always, a response to something perceived as wrong [again, broad]
 
 
It makes much more sense if you view the ego and its consequences through the lens of survival.

I don’t really understand all that spirituality stuff because it creates more questions than answers.

You’re angry because you feel like something someone does or something that has happened has reduced the likelihood you will reproduce or be able to survive long enough to eventually reproduce. Or even just straight up lowers your quality of life in a way that creates pain.

Adding spirituality into the mix confuses this tremendously. While without spirituality it’s rather cut and dry.

An ego is the result of a big complex brain and is a random emergent phenomenon tied to increased intelligence.

There’s no spiritual answer to any of it. Just evolution and the drive to sustain life. Terror management theory can also be viewed through this lens. We are too smart for our own good and have developed egos that respond negatively to the thought of death, which drives all sorts of emotional responses to the situation of life.
 

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