💀 The 3 Most Important Craniofacial Plane Angles for Aesthetics [3D Morphs]

LEFORT17 · Monday at 12:56 PM

mvp2v1 said:
it becomes elongated with vertical growth. resulting in a long midface and large nose

how would u even reverse that IF it really comes with everyone having downward growth

Mitläufer · Monday at 3:34 PM

Good thread

Joaquin · Monday at 5:20 PM

Do people with ideal mandibular plane angle always tend to have proportionate midfaces?I think so right? Because the maxilla is well rotated therefore creating a more compact look.

Joaquin · Monday at 5:26 PM

My mandibular plane angle has changed noticably in 2 years but its still unideal causing my philtrum to be long

Joaquin · Monday at 5:39 PM

@alix

mvp2v1 · Tuesday at 11:30 AM

LEFORT17 said:
how would u even reverse that IF it really comes with everyone having downward growth

idk but many possibilities. Won Moon N2 Implant studies show that it can be corrected with protraction at certain angles with certain anchorage points.

slaters · Tuesday at 11:41 AM

Joaquin said:
Do people with ideal mandibular plane angle always tend to have proportionate midfaces?I think so right? Because the maxilla is well rotated therefore creating a more compact look.

Not really I have a slightly longer midface but my mandibular plane is still ideal

LEFORT17 · Tuesday at 12:08 PM

mvp2v1 said:
idk but many possibilities. Won Moon N2 Implant studies show that it can be corrected with protraction at certain angles with certain anchorage points.

mental masturbation.

UtahParentCenterPSL · Tuesday at 12:36 PM

thecel said:
Mandibular Plane Angle

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Animation Range: 0º to 45º Below Horizon

Ideal Pitch: 12.5º Degrees Below Horizon

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Orbitomaxillary Plane Angle

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Animation Range: 2.5º Inward to 30º Outward

Ideal Yaw: 25º Outward

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Temporal Plane Angle

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Animation Range: 0º to 30º

Ideal Yaw: 10º

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This explains it far better then the stupid video ever could

UtahParentCenterPSL · Tuesday at 12:39 PM

thecel said:
Mandibular Plane Angle

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Animation Range: 0º to 45º Below Horizon

Ideal Pitch: 12.5º Degrees Below Horizon

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Orbitomaxillary Plane Angle

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Animation Range: 2.5º Inward to 30º Outward

Ideal Yaw: 25º Outward

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Temporal Plane Angle

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Animation Range: 0º to 30º

Ideal Yaw: 10º

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I love that all of mine are ideal

Joaquin · Tuesday at 4:22 PM

slaters said:
Not really I have a slightly longer midface but my mandibular plane is still ideal

Not really my case tho

Tomer Solomon · Tuesday at 5:16 PM

thecel said:
Mandibular Plane Angle

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Animation Range: 0º to 45º Below Horizon

Ideal Pitch: 12.5º Degrees Below Horizon

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View attachment 4054632 View attachment 4054633 View attachment 4054636 View attachment 4054637

Orbitomaxillary Plane Angle

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Animation Range: 2.5º Inward to 30º Outward

Ideal Yaw: 25º Outward

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Temporal Plane Angle

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Animation Range: 0º to 30º

Ideal Yaw: 10º

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I got all of these (except for the last 1) ideal but I'm still sub 5

ostri99 · Tuesday at 6:11 PM

Tomer Solomon said:
I got all of these (except for the last 1) ideal but I'm still sub 5

it can happen. this guy is decent in all of 3 angles yet still looks bad, way too compact looking @thecel

prescient · Tuesday at 6:52 PM

Nonsense. Human skull is way more complex than that all plane, degree, ratio stuff. Otherwise there would be only one ideal skull-orbital design and all attractive people would suit this type.

All guys below are chads but what do they have in common? Their skulls, orbitals, angles etc. stuff differs. As you can see there is no such thing as "ideal degree/ratio"

All these faces have something that you cant explain but see. Genetic jackpot or whatever you say.

thecel · Thursday at 10:06 AM

prescient said:
Nonsense. Human skull is way more complex than that all plane, degree, ratio stuff. Otherwise there would be only one ideal skull-orbital design and all attractive people would suit this type.

All guys below are chads but what do they have in common? Their skulls, orbitals, angles etc. stuff differs. As you can see there is no such thing as "ideal degree/ratio"

All these faces have something that you cant explain but see. Genetic jackpot or whatever you say.

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They all have the 3 plane angles near ideal

Lookologist003 · 2025-09-07T16:00:42-0500

Hey, you made it @thecel

Congrats on BTOB.

Lookologist003 · 2025-09-07T16:30:41-0500

AscendingHero said:
Besides everything else you mentioned any other underrated or significant hall makers for facial aesthetics

Broadly those things I mentioned I believe can capture the 3-D shape of the head and its scale well. If you measure well in the majority of those I guess that you are attractive.

There is one more part to this idea ITT which I will elaborate on soon.

But at this state of the science, the rudiments are blossoming, so much so that a subhuman student could read a few important threads and have attained the knowledge he needs to understand if his situation with women can improve by consultation with a surgeon.

Lookologist003 · 2025-09-07T17:15:43-0500

Foreverbrad said:
wide but surely this can be easily frauded by shaping the hair?

If you have hair. Easily frauded? If the winds are not blowing or you stay indoors. Those hairdos look weird on guys who aren't young.

Orthognathic said:
Very interesting thread and nice illustrations. I never realized how important your temporals are.

In the dark ages of four months ago, we thought that it was because of eye spacing.

Foreverbrad said:
The orbitomaxillary plane is the one that giga fucks you and can’t be fixed without some insane combination of OBO, LF2 and forehead and cheekbone implants.

Asians are the group that suffer under low orbitomaxillary plane angles the most. I pour one out for all sub5 Asians having made this realisation.

💀 The 3 Most Important Craniofacial Plane Angles for Aesthetics [3D Morphs]

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