💀 The 3 Most Important Craniofacial Plane Angles for Aesthetics [3D Morphs]

Mandibular Plane Angle

Animation Range: 0º to 45º Below Horizon

Ideal Pitch: 12.5º Degrees Below Horizon

Spoiler: Examples of Good Mandibular Plane Angles

Spoiler: Subhuman Examples

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Orbitomaxillary Plane Angle

Animation Range: 2.5º Inward to 30º Outward

Ideal Yaw: 25º Outward

Spoiler: Examples of Good Orbitomaxillary Plane Angles

Spoiler: Subhuman Examples

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Temporal Plane Angle

Animation Range: 0º to 30º

Ideal Yaw: 10º

Spoiler: Examples of Good Temporal Plane Angles

Spoiler: Subhuman Examples

 

[Djimo]

We thought the look of high temporal plane angles were because of eye spacing. But there is a technical distinction you may refresh yourself about by reading these two threads.

Is IPD/bizygomatic (ESR) a bad ratio? A new ratio for eye spacing?

I feel like ICD is more important than ESR. The reason why I think this is that I see people with bad ESR due to a wide face but the eyes don't look close set. I was talking to @iblamemygenes yesterday and he made the point that Jordan Barrett doesn't look like he has close set eyes even...

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yeah i remember the 1st thread, i used to be correct back than about the reason why JB his eyes looked closer set due to the temporal plane angle. My explanations were just a mess with extra stuff which wasnt needed at all.

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I feel like we could do better with other stuff aswell like the jaw frontal angle.
sometimes i see narrow-faced people with still good jaw frontal angles due to the chin's horizontal length being shorter on some individuals.

so we should basicly start using the bigonial width : horizontal chin length more.

shorter horizontal chin length on narrow faces = more angularity due to the jaw having a wider angle to go to the gonions.

second person's jfa is worse due to him having a wider chin : bigonial

bad example but whatever.

so we should start using the chin more to measure.

 

[Djimo]

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try to lower his nasolabial angle
its gonna be really hard looking at his face but a good challenge!

 

[Djimo]

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try to lower his nasolabial angle
its gonna be really hard looking at his face but a good challenge!

@Lookologist003 why did you jfl was your plan to not morph him entirely?

 

[Lookologist003]

@Lookologist003 why did you jfl was your plan to not morph him entirely?

Not really jfl I just got home and was raging about good looking guys I saw on my commute

 

[Lookologist003]

sometimes i see narrow-faced people with still good jaw frontal angles due to the chin's horizontal length being shorter on some individuals.

so we should basicly start using the bigonial width : horizontal chin length more.

shorter horizontal chin length on narrow faces = more angularity due to the jaw having a wider angle to go to the gonions.

Yeah Djimo I have thought about this too. I visualize the jaws of the skull as like a trapezoidal prism extended downwards by its base and its base is cut by the MPA and the shorter of its parallel sides is the chin breadth. I think the shape of this contributes greatly to the fullness of a face. But that's a thread for another time. I am still evaluating the repercussions of this thread on my thought process, because little to say these ideas are profound.

Wait, a trapezoidal prism has two sets of parallel lines... Imagine that the top of the prism would touch the teeth or take the teeth's place when imposed onto the shape of the jaws as an abstract representation of the jaws.