The cons of an arranged marriage and why you should not get one - even if it means getting a virgin bride

I am honestly surprised you keep rotting here and beef with dudes like introvertednarc but never discuss getting a rhino and HT. Do you even want to ascend?
@Introvertednarc and I don't beef:Comfy::Comfy:

And no i'm not here to looksmax jfl if you think people come here to looksmax:LOL:

Im just here to shitpost:Comfy:
 
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It isn't bad advice. I plan on escortcelling too. It's far more convenient. People here want to convince themselves they are chads by slaying.
Advising religious guys to go against their religion isn't "bad advice"? Completely delusional. Unless you're also a murtadcuck in which case I can understand you think it's not bad advice though.
 
It isn't bad advice. I plan on escortcelling too. It's far more convenient. People here want to convince themselves they are chads by slaying.
Slippery slope mate. Have you gotten yourself rated yet?
 
@Introvertednarc and I don't beef:Comfy::Comfy:

And no i'm not here to looksmax jfl if you think people come here to looksmax:LOL:

Im just here to shitpost:Comfy:
That's the purpose of the forum btw. I use this to gather info for my surgeries. Rhino could actually ascend you very hard as your nose is very fucked up. You actually have an excuse too. My nose is bad but I probably won't get more than 0.5 PSL from rhino. You are lucky that your biggest flaw is a relatively easy fix. Unlike something like a bad IPD.
 
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I am honestly surprised you keep rotting here and beef with dudes like introvertednarc but never discuss getting a rhino and HT. Do you even want to ascend?
Truecel is pretty normal by this forums standards. One of the more sane users on this forum. Hope you ascend bhai. @TRUE_CEL :ROFLMAO:
 
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Truecel is pretty normal by this forums standards. One of the more sane users on this forum. Hope you ascend bhai. @TRUE_CEL :ROFLMAO:
Thing is he is the same age as me and hasn't taken action to looksmax and fix his life. I wanna see less shitposting and more ascensions. Thing is he has one or two fucked up features which are relatively easy to fix. Fixing them could be lifechanging especially if it's combined with normie softmaxxes like gymcelling. He doesn't take action and just rots. It's sad tbh.
 
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That's the purpose of the forum btw. I use this to gather info for my surgeries. Rhino could actually ascend you very hard as your nose is very fucked up. You actually have an excuse too. My nose is bad but I probably won't get more than 0.5 PSL from rhino. You are lucky that your biggest flaw is a relatively easy fix. Unlike something like a bad IPD.
This is just a part of the incelosphere hence why I'm here. And yes I've been told by @masaka that a rhinoplasty would help me ascend. My nose is definitely fucked up, he can verify since he's seen me irl. I'd say my nose and my eyes are my biggest flaws, they're quite buggy. :(
Truecel is pretty normal by this forums standards. One of the more sane users on this forum. Hope you ascend bhai. @TRUE_CEL :ROFLMAO:
Thanks bhai, I appreciate it. But I prefer to rot instead. :Comfy: These women just aren't worth it, man. They're retarded.
 
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Ratings here don't matter btw. IRL I got zero IOIs. I need surgery.
IOI isn't necessary for checking if you are LTR worth or not.What were you rated as mate? This forum is aspie and all but they give accurate ratings for the most part.
 
Thing is he is the same age as me and hasn't taken action to looksmax and fix his life.
Legit, I'm a neet, I don't go to school nor do I have a job. I don't even have a degree. How old are you then if you're my age?
 
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Thanks bhai, I appreciate it. But I prefer to rot instead. :Comfy: These women just aren't worth it, man. They're retarded.
Eh women are retarded but they feel nice and are v nice to you if you are gl
 
This is just a part of the incelosphere hence why I'm here. And yes I've been told by @masaka that a rhinoplasty would help me ascend. My nose is definitely fucked up, he can verify since he's seen me irl. I'd say my nose and my eyes are my biggest flaws, they're quite buggy. :(

Thanks bhai, I appreciate it. But I prefer to rot instead. :Comfy: These women just aren't worth it, man. They're retarded.
Bug eyes are more of an issue as eye surgeries are difficult to predict. If they are very bad, then OD is obviously worth it. But given the fact that you describe yourself as some deformed abomination, which you probably aren't, your eyes are probably only slightly buggy. I see this all the time on the forum. Dudes who can ascend but cope by making up some obstacle.

It's not just about women. Looking at pics of my side make me wanna rope tbh. I want to look good for myself and I don't need to be chad to for that. I can very easily get some girl forcibly married to me here but what's the point in that? I want to ascend. Simple as that.
 
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Eyes aren’t as buggy as you think imo. Rhino would ascend as you already knew. But softmaxxes will help you as well.
I figured. They are all excuses at the end of the day. He is coping by saying that thinking "If I get rhino, I'll still be cucked by my buggy eyes". He just wants to rot. And people here don't want to motivate him as they have a crabs in the bucket mentality.
 
Bug eyes are more of an issue as eye surgeries are difficult to predict. If they are very bad, then OD is obviously worth it. But given the fact that you describe yourself as some deformed abomination, which you probably aren't, your eyes are probably only slightly buggy. I see this all the time on the forum. Dudes who can ascend but cope by making up some obstacle.

It's not just about women. Looking at pics of my side make me wanna rope tbh. I want to look good for myself and I don't need to be chad to for that. I can very easily get some girl forcibly married to me here but what's the point in that? I want to ascend. Simple as that.
What. Is. Your. PSL. Rating. Mate Bhai.
 
Legit, I'm a neet, I don't go to school nor do I have a job. I don't even have a degree. How old are you then if you're my age?
25 almost. But I am doing a degree in Comp sci and close to landing this workcelling opportunity in the UK.
 
3-3.5 PSL.
Softmax to 4-4.5 PSL if you can. If you want to get laid, atleast don't do your first time with an escort. That would affect your mental wellbeing in the long run.
 
Advising religious guys to go against their religion isn't "bad advice"? Completely delusional. Unless you're also a murtadcuck in which case I can understand you think it's not bad advice though.
I see lots of dudes fantasizing about girls they are never going to fuck. If they really want to fuck hot girls, why not just straight up pay for them? It's a simple solution. And affordable too in many countries.
 
Softmax to 4-4.5 PSL if you can. If you want to get laid, atleast don't do your first time with an escort. That would affect your mental wellbeing in the long run.
Need surgeries boyo. Softmaxxing won't be enough to fix my subhumanity.

How would it affect my mental well being?
 
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Need surgeries boyo. Softmaxxing won't be enough to fix my subhumanity.

How would it affect my mental well being?
You would associate losing your virginity, something you have wanted to lose for a very long time, with a woman you don't even know, who you paid money to, who subconsciously thinks of you in disgust. She sold you your virginity, as she has had sold to dozens, if not hundreds of other men.
 
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You would associate losing your virginity, something you have wanted to lose for a very long time, with a woman you don't even know, who you paid money to, who subconsciously thinks of you in disgust. She sold you your virginity, as she has had sold to dozens, if not hundreds of other men.
That's most women btw. I get disgusted looks from my oneitises and get friendzoned by ugly girls. It's ropefuel being a subhuman.

It's a temporary measure as I get my surgeries and fillers. I should be at least average looking facially after everything.
 
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A lot of muslim-cels sit on their moral thrones and spit on other incels, often touting how lucky they are for having their arranged marriage and how good their lives will be.

In all honesty as someone who grew up in a house where parents had an arranged marriage, it's a lie. Muslim-cels will often tout the lower divorce rates as evidence of an arranged marriage being superior - truth being the low divorce rate is due to the stigma of a divorce + the women don't want to raise kids as single mothers in a foreign country where they barely can speak the language. I'll go further and say this, my parents arranged marrage is more legit than these muslim-cels because my parents didn't marry for the british citenzship.

Common copes of muslim-cels

>She's a virgin, she won't cheat on me

Counter:- It doesn't matter if she's a virgin or not, sure she won't cheat on you. But she will resent you and despise you for all you stand for, when you move to the west she will realise what a loser she married. She will be walking in the city centre with you, seeing how girls uglier than her are with taller, richer and more handsome men. She will understand how low status you are in the west. Sure she won't cheat, but she will resent you heavily, your life won't be happy. She isn't going to be the submissive housewife you are thinking of, her words are of milk and honey will have poison mixed in. You're being bluepilled.

>I don't need that romance bullshit, I just want a wife and kids

Counter:- Again heavy cope. If your wife doesn't love you, what example will that set to your son? That it's normal if no woman desires him? Total and utter bullshit you're begging to raise a child who won't know how to react in front of intimacy. Not just that, you truthfully think you will be happy not having a woman love you? The love a child gives you and the love a woman gives you is totally different and aren't comparable in the slightest. True you will be more attached to your child, but not having any love from your wife means you are missing a major part of your life. You really want to die without ever knowing how love from another woman felt? Pathetic and bullshit. I can even tell you a story of how important love is in a marriage. My grandmother got married off at 16 to another boy whom she knew when she was younger, they both got along and already did sort of like each other. That man being my grandfather, and you know what? They both loved each other deeply, my grandfather had never raised a finger or hit my grandmother or even screamed at her (which is amazing for 1950s bangladesh mind you). He died almost 35+ years ago now, and my grandmother still cries whenever she talks about him. I remember my grandmother was cooking in the kitchen once, and I snuck up behind her to give her a hug, and she started telling me how grandad used to do that to her, and she started crying a little thinking about him. She never remarried too. If you are telling me you don't want that sort of relationship, you're a liar.

>Hey at least I'm banging a hot girl!!

JFL, your "relationship" if you can even call it that, is an open betabux relationship. Normies at least have the plausible deniability of "she loves me", but you have none. She didn't fall in love with you when you met 2 weeks before the wedding and she never did. You're a betabux and will realise this. You will rush to have kids ASAP so you can trap her, otherwise she would just leave you. But now she has a baby chaining her down, she won't have a choice to leave.

>B-b-b-but muh wife and kids

Again, hardcore cope. You're really being a robot here, you are having kids for no reason. This woman doesn't even desire you, she and you are only having kids due to societal expectations, you have no real free will. You're just following orders. Again if you had a normal marriage then you could have had kids because you truly loved this person and felt ready for kids, but instead you are robotically doing things. Your relationship was never organic and you knew it all along.

>Fine I will marry a westernised muslim girl

Honestly dumbest move you can do, I as well as many users have posted countless JBW pills here, they view brown men as beta buxes.

>so what do I do?

Improve and looksmax. Arranged marriages are cope, your parents know this too. Why do you think Indian parents discourage sports and make their kids look ugly af? It's because they know if they looksmax and become indepedent they'll deviate from the arranged marriage plan.

Be an individual and spit the arranged marriage pill out. Embrace your struggle.
Bro arranged marriages are a retarded concept. They used to happen in Albania too as well as in many other eastern european Muslim countries and i tell you most of the time it was a shit life for the couple. No semblance of love or anything similar to it.
Also my grandparents were back in the day married through love and when my grandpa died 11 years ago my grandma still looks at his pictures and cries at them which is really sad tbh.


Even if i lived in the earlier days of the boomer generation I'd never get an arranged marriage. Why would i want to set myself up for some shit boring and dull life with no meaning. Also divorce isn't the worst thing in the world after all.
 
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That's most women btw. I get disgusted looks from my oneitises and get friendzoned by ugly girls. It's ropefuel being a subhuman.

It's a temporary measure as I get my surgeries and fillers. I should be at least average looking facially after everything.
Hope all goes well man.
 
Eyes aren’t as buggy as you think imo. Rhino would ascend as you already knew. But softmaxxes will help you as well.
I can't do some of these softmaxxes as they will only accentuate my nose. I should fashionmaxx like the guy we saw.
 
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Bug eyes are more of an issue as eye surgeries are difficult to predict. If they are very bad, then OD is obviously worth it. But given the fact that you describe yourself as some deformed abomination, which you probably aren't, your eyes are probably only slightly buggy. I see this all the time on the forum. Dudes who can ascend but cope by making up some obstacle.

It's not just about women. Looking at pics of my side make me wanna rope tbh. I want to look good for myself and I don't need to be chad to for that. I can very easily get some girl forcibly married to me here but what's the point in that? I want to ascend. Simple as that.
Well they're very bad in my opinion, they are disgusting to look at. The other guy is just too nice. Even a normie said to me that my eyes were bulging, and they weren't even blackpilled. They were also Pakistani though. Plus some people told me I look like Riz Ahmed and the only thing we have in common is bug eyes and bushy eyebrows. He has a better lower third and a better nose. I'm definitely an abomination. And tbh I don't care about being ugly, I just like to complain about my being ugly since it's literally the only thing that really holds me back.
 
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25 almost. But I am doing a degree in Comp sci and close to landing this workcelling opportunity in the UK.
I'm older than you man, you lifemog me since you are doing a degree. I am a neet. Jfl everyone that's younger than me has got more going on for them. Never began. I won't go back to college until at least 2023 though.
 
Jfl, :lul: anything but that.
I already have similar boots from 2014. I had a skinhead phase at the time. I buzzed all my hair off and shaved all my hair off. :ROFLMAO: I called the boots "jodenstompers" since some guy in a neo nazi film had them too and was kicking Jews with them. But I realized quickly I had a jew nose myself. :forcedsmile:
 
I see lots of dudes fantasizing about girls they are never going to fuck. If they really want to fuck hot girls, why not just straight up pay for them? It's a simple solution. And affordable too in many countries.
I don't want to do those things and I'm sure @masaka doesn't want that either. Guys like us don't want to engage in degeneracy. We want what Islam has taught us. Degeneracy is not for us.
 
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I don't want to do those things and I'm sure @masaka doesn't want that either. Guys like us don't want to engage in degeneracy. We want what Islam has taught us. Degeneracy is not for us.
PM pics of your face. I will do the same.
 
PM pics of your face. I will do the same.
I don't show my face anymore, just showed it once. You can see my nose and fivehead. They've been spammed here multiple times.
 
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I don't show my face anymore, just showed it once. You can see my nose and fivehead. They've been spammed here multiple times.
Figured. You are not subhuman. LTN probably. Am I right? @masaka

This is how I know you are LARPing about being a truecel.
 
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Figured. You are not subhuman. LTN probably. Am I right? @masaka

This is how I know you are LARPing about being a truecel.
I'm not larping at all. I'm older than you and khhv.
 
He is ltn, not truecel at all. i did not mog him irl we are around the same looks level, but he claims otherwise.
Exactly. You are both normies tbh. Maybe you may have more appeal to younger women. So LTN with deformed nose and high hairline. Easy ascension to HTN with rhino and HT. This is what I am talking about on here. Niggas who can make it but choose to rot.
 
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Same age. But you get IOIs.
I'm not fucking 24 dude. :ROFLMAO: I'm older than you. And those IOIs are cope, they mean nothing if you're not at least chadlite.
 
He is ltn, not truecel at all. i did not mog him irl we are around the same looks level, but he claims otherwise.
You definitely mog me, man. No buggy eyes, no crooked long jew nose. Your nose is just wide. From facial perspective you mog me hard and it's not even a question.
 
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Exactly. You are both normies tbh. Maybe you may have more appeal to younger women. So LTN with deformed nose and high hairline. Easy ascension to HTN with rhino and HT. This is what I am talking about on here. Niggas who can make it but choose to rot.
Dude have you seen what a rhinoplasty is like? I don't want that to happen to me. I don't want someone to cut into my face while I'm unconscious. If there's ever a technique that doesn't involve cutting into my nose, I'd do it. If I have to do something I don't want to do at all to ascend then I'd rather just rot.
 
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You definitely mog me, man. No buggy eyes, no crooked long jew nose. Your nose is just wide. From facial perspective you mog me hard and it's not even a question.
You just love being the victim. You are addicted to it. If you are not a truecel in your own eyes, you are just another normie who blends in. It's the opposite the narcy normies on here who think they are chads.
 
Dude have you seen what a rhinoplasty is like? I don't want that to happen to me. I don't want someone to cut into my face while I'm unconscious. If there's ever a technique that doesn't involve cutting into my nose, I'd do it. If I have to do something I don't want to do at all to ascend then I'd rather just rot.
You'd be fine.
 
I was actually taking everything into account, I may face mog you, but you height and frame mog me.
But isn't looks level about face, not height and frame? Btw I'm a skinny twig, I am only taller than you but that's it. Women care more about face than height.
 
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You just love being the victim. You are addicted to it. If you are not a truecel in your own eyes, you are just another normie who blends in. It's the opposite the narcy normies on here who think they are chads.
I can't be a normie, I am genuinely deformed. It's got nothing to do with "being the victim."
 
You'd be fine.
What part of not wanting to undergo a surgical procedure don't you understand? It doesn't matter what the outcome is, I just don't want it to be done. No ifs and buts.
 
Looks level is face, height and frame. Face is definitely the most important of the three. There is a big butt tho, having an average face with below average height and frame brings me down hard, that is why I think we’re the same lookslevel.(y)
Even with those failos you have, women would pick you over me, therefore we can't be on the same lookslevel. For instance that big butt chick you showed, you think she'd want to talk to me? Hell no. She cares about face. Like every other girl.
 
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Will share this thread on Incels.is. :love:
 
Bro I just guided to her and made some jokes here and there, my face had nothing do with it. If I was HTN-Chadlite facially I would agree with you. Anyone could do it.
But you said you talk to her every now and then which means you pass the looks threshold. I think you're a mid-tier normie facially. You're not a low-tier normie lol.
 
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It's not a cope, I am legitimately deformed. And I'm fine with rotting too. :Comfy:
People claim we don't see many ascensions on this forum. I think it's because of the rotter mentality that's so pervasive amongst the users here, no one takes action to improve their situation.

There was another normie dude for who I made a morph which he could achieve with non-invasive shit and softmaxxes but he kept on rotting and complaining about being a truecel.

Obviously, surgery is cope in the sense that it won't turn you into a chad. But people who have glaring but fixable flaws can benefit from the a lot. You fall into this category.
 

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