the only non cope guide (SIMPLE AF) you newgens will need for height and body in general

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This is basically an info vomit that i had in my notes since 2020 and i just kept updating. I’m posting this now cause i want the VIP jfl

the information here is mostly water so don’t mind it

why would u listen to me?
I’ve been blackpilled for 5 years and i’m one of the og heightmaxxers that actually grew.


Aromatase Inhibitors (AI) and Their Use in Heightmaxxing

  1. Function and Importance
    • Aromatase inhibitors (AIs) reduce estrogen in the body, which can prevent growth plates from fusing, thereby allowing for continued growth.
    • They are crucial for height increase, especially for individuals under 15 years old.
  2. Methods to Enhance Growth
    • Combine AI use with exercises like sprinting, basketball, or swimming to stimulate HGH release.
    • Maintain a balanced diet to fuel growth.
  3. Types of AIs
    • Aromasin (Exemestane) is preferred over Letrozole and Anastrozole due to its steroidal nature, which is easier on lipid profiles and bone health.
    • Nonsteroidal AIs like Letrozole and Anastrozole can lead to decreased bone mineral density and lipid profile issues.
  4. Dosage and Administration
    • One full tablet of Aromasin is 25 mg; cut into quarters (6.25 mg each) and take 1-2 pieces (6.25-12.5 mg) daily or every other day.
    • Maintain estrogen levels between 10-15 pg/ml to prevent growth plate fusion and avoid an estrogen crash.
  5. Monitoring and Adjustments
    • Regular blood tests are recommended to monitor estrogen levels and adjust AI dosage accordingly.
    • If blood tests are not available, use the hit-and-trial method starting with lower doses and adjusting based on side effects.
  6. Side Effects and Precautions
    • Normal estrogen levels (10-15 pg/ml) side effects: mild bone/joint pain, libido changes, mild-moderate acne.
    • Estrogen crash (below 8-10 pg/ml) side effects: severe bone/joint pain, brain fog, extreme fatigue, and mood changes.
    • Avoid using Aromasin with vitamin D deficiency; ensure adequate vitamin D, K2, and magnesium intake.
  7. Supplementary Advice
    • For those older than 15 , external HGH and IGF1 injections are necessary for growth.
    • Use AI consistently and avoid missing doses to prevent estrogen rebound.

Framemaxxing

  1. Clavicles and Ribcage
    • Improve GH/IGF1 levels through low body fat, supplements , and high-intensity exercise.
    • Consider clavicle lengthening through medical procedures or medications like BMP7.
  2. Gym Routine
    • Weightlifting and wide grip exercises to stress bones for adaptation and growth.
    • include exercises like breathing squats, reeves deadlifts and breathing dumbbell pullovers
    • Swimming and contact sports to apply pressure on bones for structural growth.
  3. Additional Methods
    • Anti-aromatase medications, bone smashing, and injecting specific proteins for potential bone lengthening.
    • Optimize diet to avoid estrogenic foods and include vitamin K2.

Heightmaxxing

  1. Introduction
    • Experimental methods to increase height through cartilage hypertrophy and systemic hormone elevation.
  2. Methods
    • Cope stack: use mk677, Aromasin, and Huperzine A for GH boost. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9467534/
    • peptide stack: includes CJC-1295 DAC, MK-677, and Huperzine A.
    • Intensive method: high doses of mk677, CJC-1295, and additional peptides to create GH peaks.
    • most common method: gh 8-10uis daily combined with an AI
  3. Supporting Supplements (mostly cope)
  4. Estrogen Control
    • Use AIs (Aromasin, Arimidex, or Letrozole) based on HGH stack intensity.
  5. Androgens and Insulin
    • Use DHT gel or 11-KDHT drops for masculinizarion and penile growth.
    • Experimental use of insulin to synergize with GH and IGF-1 for muscle and bone growth.

Bodybuilding and Leanmaxxing

  1. First Cycle for Bulking
    • 500 mg of testosterone weekly for 12-15 weeks.
    • Use Arimidex or Aromasin to control estrogen levels.
  2. Post Cycle Therapy (PCT)
    • Nolvadex for 6 weeks after the cycle.
    • HCG during cycle to maintain testicular function.
  3. Leanmaxxing Basics
    • Follow a calorie deficit (calories in and calories out) to lose fat while preserving lean tissue.
    • Ensure adequate protein intake and balanced exercise routine.
  4. Exercise Recommendations
    • Weightlifting routine focusing on compound lifts.
    • Cardio: LISS for higher body fat percentages, HIIT for lower body fat percentages.
  5. Diet and Supplementation
    • Maintain protein, fat, and carb balance.
    • Consider fasting and ketogenic diets for specific goals.
  6. Maintaining Optimal Body Fat
    • Aim for 10-12% body fat for best aesthetics.
    • Regular hydration and sodium management to avoid facial bloat.

Additional Tests for Monitoring Health


  • Regular blood tests for estrogen, testosterone, DHT, vitamin D, and other markers.
  • Monthly and bi-monthly checks for critical health indicators like lipid profiles and liver enzymes.
 
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Height iq thread OP,read every single molecules
 
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mirin, i just dont know whether to still bother at my age
 
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brutal...reading this about 12-14 years too late
 
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mirin, i just dont know whether to still bother at my age
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all depends if your plates are closed. get your plates checked out and if their open blast gh if you want a chance of minimal growth
 
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Mike141 said:
all depends if your plates are closed. get your plates checked out and if their open blast gh if you want a chance of minimal growth
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it's too expensive to get it checked
 
@Clavicular is this worthy of getting free VIP jfl
 
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good read
 
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<6PSLcel said:
mirin, i just dont know whether to still bother at my age
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You’re 6’5, your height is definitely not the issue. It’s your face and low iq
 
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You’re 6’5, your height is definitely not the issue. It’s your face and low iq
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it's my face: obvious
low iq: since when do women give a fuck about ur iq lmao
 
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it's my face: obvious
low iq: since when do women give a fuck about ur iq lmao
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ur even taller than me jfl. no need to complain
 
Mike141 said:
happens tbh. i was lucky to start heightmaxxing+ looksmaxxing at 14
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im 16 but doctor said my growth plates are still open. Only thing im worried about is ai and its potential affects at making me low iq and also where the fuck do i get hgh from?
 
Found out im 5'8 and suifuel. 16 years old. worth or nah
 
Mike141 said:
This is basically an info vomit that i had in my notes since 2020 and i just kept updating. I’m posting this now cause i want the VIP jfl

the information here is mostly water so don’t mind it

why would u listen to me?
I’ve been blackpilled for 5 years and i’m one of the og heightmaxxers that actually grew.


Aromatase Inhibitors (AI) and Their Use in Heightmaxxing

  1. Function and Importance
    • Aromatase inhibitors (AIs) reduce estrogen in the body, which can prevent growth plates from fusing, thereby allowing for continued growth.
    • They are crucial for height increase, especially for individuals under 15 years old.
  2. Methods to Enhance Growth
    • Combine AI use with exercises like sprinting, basketball, or swimming to stimulate HGH release.
    • Maintain a balanced diet to fuel growth.
  3. Types of AIs
    • Aromasin (Exemestane) is preferred over Letrozole and Anastrozole due to its steroidal nature, which is easier on lipid profiles and bone health.
    • Nonsteroidal AIs like Letrozole and Anastrozole can lead to decreased bone mineral density and lipid profile issues.
  4. Dosage and Administration
    • One full tablet of Aromasin is 25 mg; cut into quarters (6.25 mg each) and take 1-2 pieces (6.25-12.5 mg) daily or every other day.
    • Maintain estrogen levels between 10-15 pg/ml to prevent growth plate fusion and avoid an estrogen crash.
  5. Monitoring and Adjustments
    • Regular blood tests are recommended to monitor estrogen levels and adjust AI dosage accordingly.
    • If blood tests are not available, use the hit-and-trial method starting with lower doses and adjusting based on side effects.
  6. Side Effects and Precautions
    • Normal estrogen levels (10-15 pg/ml) side effects: mild bone/joint pain, libido changes, mild-moderate acne.
    • Estrogen crash (below 8-10 pg/ml) side effects: severe bone/joint pain, brain fog, extreme fatigue, and mood changes.
    • Avoid using Aromasin with vitamin D deficiency; ensure adequate vitamin D, K2, and magnesium intake.
  7. Supplementary Advice
    • For those older than 15 , external HGH and IGF1 injections are necessary for growth.
    • Use AI consistently and avoid missing doses to prevent estrogen rebound.

Framemaxxing

  1. Clavicles and Ribcage
    • Improve GH/IGF1 levels through low body fat, supplements , and high-intensity exercise.
    • Consider clavicle lengthening through medical procedures or medications like BMP7.
  2. Gym Routine
    • Weightlifting and wide grip exercises to stress bones for adaptation and growth.
    • include exercises like breathing squats, reeves deadlifts and breathing dumbbell pullovers
    • Swimming and contact sports to apply pressure on bones for structural growth.
  3. Additional Methods
    • Anti-aromatase medications, bone smashing, and injecting specific proteins for potential bone lengthening.
    • Optimize diet to avoid estrogenic foods and include vitamin K2.

Heightmaxxing

  1. Introduction
    • Experimental methods to increase height through cartilage hypertrophy and systemic hormone elevation.
  2. Methods
    • Cope stack: use mk677, Aromasin, and Huperzine A for GH boost. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9467534/
    • peptide stack: includes CJC-1295 DAC, MK-677, and Huperzine A.
    • Intensive method: high doses of mk677, CJC-1295, and additional peptides to create GH peaks.
    • most common method: gh 8-10uis daily combined with an AI
  3. Supporting Supplements (mostly cope)
  4. Estrogen Control
    • Use AIs (Aromasin, Arimidex, or Letrozole) based on HGH stack intensity.
  5. Androgens and Insulin
    • Use DHT gel or 11-KDHT drops for masculinizarion and penile growth.
    • Experimental use of insulin to synergize with GH and IGF-1 for muscle and bone growth.

Bodybuilding and Leanmaxxing

  1. First Cycle for Bulking
    • 500 mg of testosterone weekly for 12-15 weeks.
    • Use Arimidex or Aromasin to control estrogen levels.
  2. Post Cycle Therapy (PCT)
    • Nolvadex for 6 weeks after the cycle.
    • HCG during cycle to maintain testicular function.
  3. Leanmaxxing Basics
    • Follow a calorie deficit (calories in and calories out) to lose fat while preserving lean tissue.
    • Ensure adequate protein intake and balanced exercise routine.
  4. Exercise Recommendations
    • Weightlifting routine focusing on compound lifts.
    • Cardio: LISS for higher body fat percentages, HIIT for lower body fat percentages.
  5. Diet and Supplementation
    • Maintain protein, fat, and carb balance.
    • Consider fasting and ketogenic diets for specific goals.
  6. Maintaining Optimal Body Fat
    • Aim for 10-12% body fat for best aesthetics.
    • Regular hydration and sodium management to avoid facial bloat.

Additional Tests for Monitoring Health


  • Regular blood tests for estrogen, testosterone, DHT, vitamin D, and other markers.
  • Monthly and bi-monthly checks for critical health indicators like lipid profiles and liver enzymes.
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Newcel
 
What if I were to hop on roids too? Not the more potent ones like Tren but DHT derivatives like Masteron for example which synergistically reduce estrogen to a noticeable extent. Would it be worth taking an AI then? Also wouldn't modified CJC be better than the DAC variant given that it complements the body's natural HGH spikes instead of giving a consistent bleed of HGH like pharma grade exogenous HGH which may result in unwanted acromegalic side effects?
 
Mike141 said:
metformin is for blood sugar. for hair loss use minox+ru or maybe stronger dht blockers if ur older than 23
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im 17. Isnt a dht blocker going against the principle of heightmaxxing
 
Ah okay. Where do you buy your magnesium, vit d and k2? ive heard 90% dont dose enough.
 
AscendableReal said:
Ah okay. Where do you buy your magnesium, vit d and k2? ive heard 90% dont dose enough.
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cope tbh. tried like a year ago didn’t see much of a change
 
where can i get ai and gh from?
 
Mike141 said:
This is basically an info vomit that i had in my notes since 2020 and i just kept updating. I’m posting this now cause i want the VIP jfl

the information here is mostly water so don’t mind it

why would u listen to me?
I’ve been blackpilled for 5 years and i’m one of the og heightmaxxers that actually grew.


Aromatase Inhibitors (AI) and Their Use in Heightmaxxing

  1. Function and Importance
    • Aromatase inhibitors (AIs) reduce estrogen in the body, which can prevent growth plates from fusing, thereby allowing for continued growth.
    • They are crucial for height increase, especially for individuals under 15 years old.
  2. Methods to Enhance Growth
    • Combine AI use with exercises like sprinting, basketball, or swimming to stimulate HGH release.
    • Maintain a balanced diet to fuel growth.
  3. Types of AIs
    • Aromasin (Exemestane) is preferred over Letrozole and Anastrozole due to its steroidal nature, which is easier on lipid profiles and bone health.
    • Nonsteroidal AIs like Letrozole and Anastrozole can lead to decreased bone mineral density and lipid profile issues.
  4. Dosage and Administration
    • One full tablet of Aromasin is 25 mg; cut into quarters (6.25 mg each) and take 1-2 pieces (6.25-12.5 mg) daily or every other day.
    • Maintain estrogen levels between 10-15 pg/ml to prevent growth plate fusion and avoid an estrogen crash.
  5. Monitoring and Adjustments
    • Regular blood tests are recommended to monitor estrogen levels and adjust AI dosage accordingly.
    • If blood tests are not available, use the hit-and-trial method starting with lower doses and adjusting based on side effects.
  6. Side Effects and Precautions
    • Normal estrogen levels (10-15 pg/ml) side effects: mild bone/joint pain, libido changes, mild-moderate acne.
    • Estrogen crash (below 8-10 pg/ml) side effects: severe bone/joint pain, brain fog, extreme fatigue, and mood changes.
    • Avoid using Aromasin with vitamin D deficiency; ensure adequate vitamin D, K2, and magnesium intake.
  7. Supplementary Advice
    • For those older than 15 , external HGH and IGF1 injections are necessary for growth.
    • Use AI consistently and avoid missing doses to prevent estrogen rebound.

Framemaxxing

  1. Clavicles and Ribcage
    • Improve GH/IGF1 levels through low body fat, supplements , and high-intensity exercise.
    • Consider clavicle lengthening through medical procedures or medications like BMP7.
  2. Gym Routine
    • Weightlifting and wide grip exercises to stress bones for adaptation and growth.
    • include exercises like breathing squats, reeves deadlifts and breathing dumbbell pullovers
    • Swimming and contact sports to apply pressure on bones for structural growth.
  3. Additional Methods
    • Anti-aromatase medications, bone smashing, and injecting specific proteins for potential bone lengthening.
    • Optimize diet to avoid estrogenic foods and include vitamin K2.

Heightmaxxing

  1. Introduction
    • Experimental methods to increase height through cartilage hypertrophy and systemic hormone elevation.
  2. Methods
    • Cope stack: use mk677, Aromasin, and Huperzine A for GH boost. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9467534/
    • peptide stack: includes CJC-1295 DAC, MK-677, and Huperzine A.
    • Intensive method: high doses of mk677, CJC-1295, and additional peptides to create GH peaks.
    • most common method: gh 8-10uis daily combined with an AI
  3. Supporting Supplements (mostly cope)
  4. Estrogen Control
    • Use AIs (Aromasin, Arimidex, or Letrozole) based on HGH stack intensity.
  5. Androgens and Insulin
    • Use DHT gel or 11-KDHT drops for masculinizarion and penile growth.
    • Experimental use of insulin to synergize with GH and IGF-1 for muscle and bone growth.

Bodybuilding and Leanmaxxing

  1. First Cycle for Bulking
    • 500 mg of testosterone weekly for 12-15 weeks.
    • Use Arimidex or Aromasin to control estrogen levels.
  2. Post Cycle Therapy (PCT)
    • Nolvadex for 6 weeks after the cycle.
    • HCG during cycle to maintain testicular function.
  3. Leanmaxxing Basics
    • Follow a calorie deficit (calories in and calories out) to lose fat while preserving lean tissue.
    • Ensure adequate protein intake and balanced exercise routine.
  4. Exercise Recommendations
    • Weightlifting routine focusing on compound lifts.
    • Cardio: LISS for higher body fat percentages, HIIT for lower body fat percentages.
  5. Diet and Supplementation
    • Maintain protein, fat, and carb balance.
    • Consider fasting and ketogenic diets for specific goals.
  6. Maintaining Optimal Body Fat
    • Aim for 10-12% body fat for best aesthetics.
    • Regular hydration and sodium management to avoid facial bloat.

Additional Tests for Monitoring Health


  • Regular blood tests for estrogen, testosterone, DHT, vitamin D, and other markers.
  • Monthly and bi-monthly checks for critical health indicators like lipid profiles and liver enzymes.
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Turning 15 tomorrow, have 98%+ pure genotropin coming soon, and pharma aromasin. Think I can grow 3 inches? Growth plates are open
 
Mike141 said:
This is basically an info vomit that i had in my notes since 2020 and i just kept updating. I’m posting this now cause i want the VIP jfl

the information here is mostly water so don’t mind it

why would u listen to me?
I’ve been blackpilled for 5 years and i’m one of the og heightmaxxers that actually grew.


Aromatase Inhibitors (AI) and Their Use in Heightmaxxing

  1. Function and Importance
    • Aromatase inhibitors (AIs) reduce estrogen in the body, which can prevent growth plates from fusing, thereby allowing for continued growth.
    • They are crucial for height increase, especially for individuals under 15 years old.
  2. Methods to Enhance Growth
    • Combine AI use with exercises like sprinting, basketball, or swimming to stimulate HGH release.
    • Maintain a balanced diet to fuel growth.
  3. Types of AIs
    • Aromasin (Exemestane) is preferred over Letrozole and Anastrozole due to its steroidal nature, which is easier on lipid profiles and bone health.
    • Nonsteroidal AIs like Letrozole and Anastrozole can lead to decreased bone mineral density and lipid profile issues.
  4. Dosage and Administration
    • One full tablet of Aromasin is 25 mg; cut into quarters (6.25 mg each) and take 1-2 pieces (6.25-12.5 mg) daily or every other day.
    • Maintain estrogen levels between 10-15 pg/ml to prevent growth plate fusion and avoid an estrogen crash.
  5. Monitoring and Adjustments
    • Regular blood tests are recommended to monitor estrogen levels and adjust AI dosage accordingly.
    • If blood tests are not available, use the hit-and-trial method starting with lower doses and adjusting based on side effects.
  6. Side Effects and Precautions
    • Normal estrogen levels (10-15 pg/ml) side effects: mild bone/joint pain, libido changes, mild-moderate acne.
    • Estrogen crash (below 8-10 pg/ml) side effects: severe bone/joint pain, brain fog, extreme fatigue, and mood changes.
    • Avoid using Aromasin with vitamin D deficiency; ensure adequate vitamin D, K2, and magnesium intake.
  7. Supplementary Advice
    • For those older than 15 , external HGH and IGF1 injections are necessary for growth.
    • Use AI consistently and avoid missing doses to prevent estrogen rebound.

Framemaxxing

  1. Clavicles and Ribcage
    • Improve GH/IGF1 levels through low body fat, supplements , and high-intensity exercise.
    • Consider clavicle lengthening through medical procedures or medications like BMP7.
  2. Gym Routine
    • Weightlifting and wide grip exercises to stress bones for adaptation and growth.
    • include exercises like breathing squats, reeves deadlifts and breathing dumbbell pullovers
    • Swimming and contact sports to apply pressure on bones for structural growth.
  3. Additional Methods
    • Anti-aromatase medications, bone smashing, and injecting specific proteins for potential bone lengthening.
    • Optimize diet to avoid estrogenic foods and include vitamin K2.

Heightmaxxing

  1. Introduction
    • Experimental methods to increase height through cartilage hypertrophy and systemic hormone elevation.
  2. Methods
    • Cope stack: use mk677, Aromasin, and Huperzine A for GH boost. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9467534/
    • peptide stack: includes CJC-1295 DAC, MK-677, and Huperzine A.
    • Intensive method: high doses of mk677, CJC-1295, and additional peptides to create GH peaks.
    • most common method: gh 8-10uis daily combined with an AI
  3. Supporting Supplements (mostly cope)
  4. Estrogen Control
    • Use AIs (Aromasin, Arimidex, or Letrozole) based on HGH stack intensity.
  5. Androgens and Insulin
    • Use DHT gel or 11-KDHT drops for masculinizarion and penile growth.
    • Experimental use of insulin to synergize with GH and IGF-1 for muscle and bone growth.

Bodybuilding and Leanmaxxing

  1. First Cycle for Bulking
    • 500 mg of testosterone weekly for 12-15 weeks.
    • Use Arimidex or Aromasin to control estrogen levels.
  2. Post Cycle Therapy (PCT)
    • Nolvadex for 6 weeks after the cycle.
    • HCG during cycle to maintain testicular function.
  3. Leanmaxxing Basics
    • Follow a calorie deficit (calories in and calories out) to lose fat while preserving lean tissue.
    • Ensure adequate protein intake and balanced exercise routine.
  4. Exercise Recommendations
    • Weightlifting routine focusing on compound lifts.
    • Cardio: LISS for higher body fat percentages, HIIT for lower body fat percentages.
  5. Diet and Supplementation
    • Maintain protein, fat, and carb balance.
    • Consider fasting and ketogenic diets for specific goals.
  6. Maintaining Optimal Body Fat
    • Aim for 10-12% body fat for best aesthetics.
    • Regular hydration and sodium management to avoid facial bloat.

Additional Tests for Monitoring Health


  • Regular blood tests for estrogen, testosterone, DHT, vitamin D, and other markers.
  • Monthly and bi-monthly checks for critical health indicators like lipid profiles and liver enzymes.
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What does huperzine A and CJC—1295 do?
 
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