The ULTIMATE NT guide for speaking to normies/females- How to get normies to like you and why it's important

Thread song (got the idea from @PseudoMaxxer ):


(At first, it may seem like the song is telling you to be yourself, but really I see it as Ava saying you should conform to whatever audience you're dealing with at the moment)

Salutations autists
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I realize many of you guys don't know how to speak to ppl in general which is a massive problem. You see, personality might be a meme, but neurotypicality is not. You cannot come off as abrasive or hostile to normies, or else they will reject you. Normies are stupid but are necessary to climbing the social ladder.

This is a true story. I suffered so fucking much as a kid because I didn't understand basic social norms, as an only child Pajeet with immigrant parents. I still struggle a lot with not pissing off normies, so this guide is also for me as well as you. It can make the difference between a girl spending another hour with you, when you can rizz her up, or whether she packs up and leaves to get away from you.

Being NT isn't being a pushover/doormat/submissive to society. Rather, it's a preventative measure to ensure normies don't REJECT you. In other words, none of this will make you more likeable, rather it prevents you from being unlikeable. Basically what I'm trying to say is that if you're 2/10 truecel this guide won't magically make girls hop on your dick in the middle of the college library. Rather, it will prevent people from avoiding you in the college library. And yes, you will still have to interact with normies even if you are truecel whether for academically related reasons or other reasons. Besides, most people here are in the LTN-HTN range (I know that 99% of .org thinks they are HTN.)

Furthermore, many of your future male friends (that you need in order to be NT) will start off as normies as well until you get to know them better. Don't make the mistake of making them think you're weak.

Just to let you know, I have taken inspiration from three other threads which I will link in this thread but will cite whenever I borrow something from them.

TL;DR: There are certain things you cannot talk about with normies if you want them to accept you.

inb4 "muh chad can speak however he wants :soy: ." Yes, but YOU are not Chad.


This will be a common theme throughout this post so if you find yourself asking this when I tell you to do something, tell your brain to shut the fuck up and listen to me.



You need to swear a little, among peers and not authority figures like teachers or bosses of course.

If you never swear, you run the risk of being too "Mormon" and looking like a nerd:

Spongebob Roundpants | Magnet


If you curse too much, you run the risk of looking edgy and immature, which is honestly worse. That doesn't fly by a lot of normies.

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I say the best ratio of swear words to other words should be like 1:150. Obviously don't count every time like a sperg but my point is just sprinkle "fuck" or "shit" like once. Don't call women "bitches" or "cunts". In fact, never use the word "retard", "faggot", "cunt", and especially not "nigga/nigger" (should go without saying). STAY AWAY FROM ALL SLURS. Also don't use swear words when talking about people, only inanimate things or occasionally, yourself.

Good: "Bruh I can't believe Professor Mike Mew gave us 10 pages of orthotropics homework. Dude, I don't know if I can go out to the bar tonight. I'm so fucked."

Bad: "Bruh Julia is such an ugly cunt and Bella is borderline retarded. I don't know how she got that job at Starbucks, that bitch."

Flag Palestine GIF by Guy with Red Beard


I am aware that your hoejabi Arab oneitis can't stop posting about "muh Palestine" but as a man you need to shut the fuck up about anything unless prompted to answer. For instance, if someone asks what you think about Da Joos vs Muzzies, the best answer to give is to deflect and say, "It's sad to think about how many innocent children have been killed on both sides. It's tragic really...". Do not ever, ever speak about religion or politicians unless prompted. Depending on who you speak you, you will have to follow the Overton Window.


This BOTB thread goes into far more detail than I do about the Overton Window, and honestly, it's the thread that inspired me to write this ULTIMATE thread.

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One more thing I want to touch on: LGBT rights. Despite what normies say, being gay is not widely accepted among normies, it's just that they tolerate it. So basically most "progressive" liberal women will be okay if you say you are fine with gay marriage but are not gay yourself. Like everything else mentioned, NEVER BRING IT UP unless prompted/necessary. Most "Christian" women don't like gay people.

Do you see a pattern here? Being balanced is the key, because most normies are balanced. They aren't special or strong in one particular thing, which makes them prone to disliking extremism.


This might take a bit of introspection and self-awareness which I struggled with for a long time. Don't be sarcastic or condescending to normfags. They don't like it when you talk down to them (despite their peanut brains mentally judging ugly incels 24/7 :feelskek:).

Think about why people on here don't like users like @anthony111553 and @moggathon ...it's because they started insulting people as soon as they registered, which pitted them against everyone at once. Social dynamics are everywhere, even on freakshow websites such as this.

Bullying anyone, even if it's a subhuman, never looks good. Just avoid it at all costs.

Occasionally, it's healthy to poke fun at a buddy or a girl you have a crush on in a group setting. Don't make fun of a flaw they can't control or something serious. NEVER EVER call a normie ugly. Go for something small, like an error in the way they recently comported themselves. Don't make an esoteric complex joke no one will understand, and don't mock multiple people at once because they can gang up on you and "ratio" you IRL.

On the flip side, this is why @Kamui and @Gengar can get away with insulting me sometimes. It's because they are relevant I "know" them (as well as you can know someone on a racist Indian forum), so I don't get super mad when they call me a Dalit or something.

Good joke: 2 weeks after getting to know Bella, I say "Bella is so clumsy. She spilled her water all over me haha." to her friend group.

Bad joke: 8 hours after knowing Julia and Bella, I say "Shut up, Julia, you ugly big-nosed recessed bitch :lul: :lul::lul:), it's over for you and Bella's flat maxilla. No wonder you will be a wageslave forever. It's OVER." At this point, I would be fucked, because I'm pitting my ugly ass against two white women who will tell me to shut up in front of a gaggle of normie freaks.

Girl after I knew her for an hour: are you allergic to pineapple? What if you smell it?

Me: it's not like I'm gonna fucking snort it, am I?

See how this can be offensive? I was clearly joking but even this subtle comment pissed her off and her hatred for me snowballed from there, leading to me getting fired from my job this summer.


You can still be funny in other ways. Just stick to TikTok humor. Reference memes and stuff from NT sources as well when necessary, just make sure they are POPULAR. No one will understand some gay nerdy joke from Skyrim mod #1049583, which leads me to my next point...



This used to be hard for me

In 8th grade, I told a girl I had a crush on that I was excited Star Wars Battlefront 2 was coming out, and she was like "wtf is that". Needless to say, I never pulled her.


Movies, Games, and Sports to talk about from most to least popular:

Good (most normies can relate)Okay (passable to mention a few times or with certain niches)Bad (don't ever bring up or catch people seeing you do this when they don't know you well)
Movies/TVStar Wars (main movies only), Marvel (Big movies only, like spider-man or Avengers Infinity War), Batman, Harry Potter, Twilight (women only), Euphoria, Breaking Bad, The Boys (men only), Invincible, Spongebob, Family Guy, Scream, Vampire Diaries (women only), Barbie Movie, any christopher nolan movie (men only), Disney movies/shows (with girls), FriendsThe Sopranos (sadly most women and young normies haven't seen), Boardwalk Empire, The Wire (outdated for Gen Z/Alpha), Attack on Titan, Death Note, Jujitsu Kaisen, Chainsaw man, Clueless, Young Sheldon (ironically)August Underground (if you know what this is you're fucked), slaughtered vomit dolls, or any other disgusting fetish gory movie. Nerd things like Battlestar Galactica or childish things like Transformers or My Little Pony are bad too. If you watch any of this shit and tell ppl about it IT'S OVER.
GamesFortnite, Minecraft, COD, Apex Legends, Halo, Mario Kart, Roblox (foids LOVE this game for some reason...)Cyberpunk, Fallout, Spider-Man PS4/5 Resident Evil (some girls love this game cuz of Leon), and the Red Dead Redemption series. Basically any popular story game as most women don't like these things.Baldur's Gate (a.k.a Dungeons and Dragons), Sonic, Skyrim, FNAF, or any esoteric title that no one has heard of
SportsFootball, Soccer, Weight Lifting, Basketball (very NT), swimmingBaseball, Running (either participating or watching), Horseracing
Curling, Water polo, anything else niche or gay
MusicThe Weeknd, Dua Lipa, Travis Scott, Taylor Swift, Drake, Lil Uzi Vert,Marina and the Diamonds, Nirvana, Deftones, Cigarettes After Sex, Maneskin, my chemical romance (basically any alt music that emo whores listen to), One Direction (outdated)Video game music (I don't care if I put it in a popular category above, absolutely do not let your girl find out you listen to the Halo soundtrack), Anime OSTs, Nickelback unironically. Will add more as I think of them in the shower...

REMINDER YOU CAN STILL ENJOY THINGS FROM ANY OF THE ABOVE CATEGORIES JUST EXERCISE CAUTION IF THEY ARE IN THE OKAY CATEGORY AND DON'T TALK ABOUT THEM IF THEY ARE IN THE BAD CATEGORY.


Another note from the aforementioned @John Cracovizk thread. In fact, he says it better than I do so I will just copy and paste it here. Hopefully that is okay, John:

"From incels :incel: (people who are disgusted or bully you) to chads :chad: (envy and shit), sometimes people who have a dislike towards you may appear, it may be by reference or by remembering a behavior, look or even remembering another person who antagonized them at another time.

It's natural, and to deal with these people you need to have little contact as possible, stay away from those who don't like you for whatever reason, whether it's your fault or not it's always your responsibility to deal with it, your conflict is for the one who will gain the most social credit, the one who will gain the most validation from the group, leave your pride aside and remember: it is a war of morals not of pride.

It is better to be defeated personally than morally.
So, stay within the group's precepts, because everyone will think you did it right, everyone will pat you on the back and you won't lose social credit, the situation and the conflict are temporary, it's better that your antagonist emerge morally defeated with his pride intact than otherwise, but also remember not to let the mask dominate and you lose yourself to the point of allowing yourself to be humiliated and trampled to the point of not being worth the social credit.

There are moments that aren't worth it, if you impose yourself, you'll be trampled on and the group won't come to defend you, but in small conflicts that won't get physical, it's just a fight of pride, they're quite silly and nothing serious. Just be careful when it comes to a discussion with women, as they naturally already have high social credit in our society, and as a man you probably DEFINITELY have less than her, you will have to bite the bullet and don't challenge it, it's better to bite the bullet than end up imposing yourself and seeming the COWARD against a woman."

Very well written. It actually opened my eyes when I first read it.


Not gonna expand on this since I already said so much. All I'll say for this one is that most normfags and women do not think your 9/11 Hitler-Obama animal sodomy slave joke is funny.

Also NEVER don't brag about doing dumb things. Your oneitis doesn't think you're macho because you inject heroin for fun. In fact, many foids can get turned off by alcohol or cig use so be careful who you tell

Furthermore, if you brag about breaking the rules or getting away with something to someone else you’re putting yourself in a position where that person can potentially snitch on you.

This is what normies mean when they say "Just be confident bro :soy:". They mean don't be weak.

Never reach out to normies and tell them about how you are lonely or can't make friends. Opening up to vicious normies is like dropping blood into shark-infested waters. Rehab room goes into depth better than I do:



Furthermore, do not ever, EVER, make self-deprecating jokes or try to be clingy with people who clearly aren't interested in you. Don't ask them to hang out after they cancel on plans or say no to you more than 3 times in a row. Never joke about yourself in any capacity. No, you aren't self-aware, you're just a dance monkey. Also, don't be the class clown if you're in school. Those guys are usually bully victims and no girl goes "he's so hot :aheago:" even if they laugh at his gay jokes.


At this point, you are probably tired of all the reading, so imagine how much effort I put into writing it...

Okay, so I told you what you shouldn't do for the most part. Here is what you should do instead. You might be worried that you won't be funny or charismatic enough, but the good news is that you can still stand out as a "likable and popular guy" if you do these things:

1) "Pick a slayer you know IRL and then LARP as them." This is not my advice but I found that it works quite well. Here's the guy I got it from. (RIP User Vic Mackey):


Gotta fake it till you make it. Obviously don't pretend to be a 10/10 chad who gets laid every weekend because it looks like you're being fake and cocky, but be like "oh yeah I was talking to this girl" (don't mention names so it's harder to verify) which makes it seem like you're popular with the other gender and get around.

2) Unironically lift people up. Normies are incredibly vain and love complements. If you go for a compliment, start with something they did themselves, such as telling them "That shirt goes hard", "I like the way you did your hair", or "you're genuinely the funniest person I've met in a long time". If you know them for a while or are more intimate (i.e. rizzing up a girl) pick a non-erotic-body part. Example: You have really nice eyes. Bonus points if it's something they're obviously insecure about as it makes them feel even safer around you, e.g: "you have a beautiful nose Julia" (actually, she has a giant Jew nose and I secretly hope she gets a rhinoplasty asap).

3) Be funny. Being edgy or racist isn't funny. What IS funny are anecdotes. There are plenty of good videos on how to tell funny stories without being long or complex.

4) say good things about people behind their back. This one is so genius. I ONLY SAY good things about normies whenever they aren't around. If their friends overhear, even better. This will get back to them and they will think extremely highly of them.


General tips:

1) this mostly applies to normalfags and women, not guy friends you are incredibly close with. With my three best friends I use borderline .org humor and am incredibly edgy and obviously, they're not gonna say anything. However, if you aren't close to them err on the side of caution and follow this guide.

2) If it's funny on .org or incels.is , it's probably not funny IRL. Don't go around calling people recessed Dalits and joking about 5' 3" balding Indians. Never bring up the blackpill to women, EVER. This one is so hard for me jfl.

3) This should be your default setting when you don't know someone, but you should adapt as you find more info about them. If you find the group you're with to be slightly more one-way (i.e. finds Andrew Tate funny, feel free to say something about how smoking is cool or something).

4) don’t tell people your business unless you have to. Keep details to a minimum. Everyone must be on a need to know basis. That is how you properly look mysterious, not “muh walk around sulking like an edgelord”.

5) all normies follow this thread subconsciously, 100%. They all know this info in and out. They have an advantage compared to socially stunted dogs like us, so if you choose to ignore this don't come crying to me when you can't solve your "mentalceldom". Think about that when you write DNRD.

6) if you fuck up a little at first, it's okay. I know there are so many rules that it will be hard for the first month or so, but eventually, you should get the hang of it.

Threads referenced (repeated from above):




tagging people who actually show signs of brain activity: @Squirtle @pneumocystosis

shit i literally can't think of anyone else. Whoops.

EDIT: 1/30/2024. Since making this guide i have gotten into exactly ZERO altercations or problems with anyone on a day-to-day basis despite talking to way more people now than i did during my autistic jabbermouth days. Almost like this guide works or something. Crazy.
 
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listening to nigger rap music is just as revolting to me as watching gay porn.

Gay porn is scientifically less gay than worshipping niggers and women
what music u listen to
 
It is better to be defeated personally than morally. So, stay within the group's precepts, because everyone will think you did it right, everyone will pat you on the back and you won't lose social credit, the situation and the conflict are temporary, it's better that your antagonist emerge morally defeated with his pride intact than otherwise, but also remember not to let the mask dominate and you lose yourself to the point of allowing yourself to be humiliated and trampled to the point of not being worth the social credit.
can you expand on this? seems like some cuck shit
 
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I thought most of this was very very obvious lmao
Bro you have no idea haha, there are many people here who do not understand how to speak to people. Once they clean this up they may have a chance at a somewhat normal social life.
 
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you can’t teach NTness to sombody

It’s Unironically more likely for a 4/10 to ascend into a 8/10 than become NT

It’s deeply rooted in the brain if your not born with it you’ll never have it

The ability to sense these things should be instinct to every human

It’s like teaching a psychopath to feel empathy

Ur whole tutorial is coming from the perspective of someone who’s already nt you can’t teach people that even if they know the theory they won’t be able to put it into practice
So u saying all this ain't BOTB material and it's just...cope..?
 
good thread read everything but i think this won't actually work for me i am a true nd and spent most of my life alone so i think my brain is gone beyond repair
 
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Every word. Not. Either you're NT or you aren't
 
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mogs i do all of them
 
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why is your username at the bottom of the thread? never seen this before
also increase font size to max my eyesight is shit
 
Thread song (got the idea from @PseudoMaxxer ):


(At first, it may seem like the song is telling you to be yourself, but really I see it as Ava saying you should conform to whatever audience you're dealing with at the moment)

Salutations autists
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I realize many of you guys don't know how to speak to ppl in general which is a massive problem. You see, personality might be a meme, but neurotypicality is not. You cannot come off as abrasive or hostile to normies, or else they will reject you.

This is a true story. I suffered so fucking much as a kid because I didn't understand basic social norms, as an only child Pajeet with immigrant parents. I still struggle a lot with not pissing off normies, so this guide is also for me as well as you. It can make the difference between a girl spending another hour with you, when you can rizz her up, or whether she packs up and leaves to get away from you.

Being NT isn't being a pushover/doormat/submissive to society. Rather, it's a preventative measure to ensure normies don't REJECT you. In other words, none of this will make you more likeable, rather it prevents you from being unlikeable. Basically what I'm trying to say is that if you're 2/10 truecel this guide won't magically make girls hop on your dick in the middle of the college library. Rather, it will prevent people from avoiding you in the college library. And yes, you will still have to interact with normies even if you are truecel whether for academically related reasons or other reasons. Besides, most people here are in the LTN-HTN range (I know that 99% of .org thinks they are HTN. Normies are stupid but are necessary to climbing the social ladder.

Furthermore, many of your future male friends (that you need in order to be NT) will start off as normies as well until you get to know them better. Don't make the mistake of making them think you're weak.

Just to let you know, I have taken inspiration from three other threads which I will link in this thread but will cite whenever I borrow something from them.

TL;DR: There are certain things you cannot talk about with normies if you want them to accept you.

inb4 "muh chad can speak however he wants :soy: ." Yes, but YOU are not Chad.


This will be a common theme throughout this post so if you find yourself asking this when I tell you to do something, tell your brain to shut the fuck up and listen to me.



You need to swear a little, among peers and not authority figures like teachers or bosses of course.

If you never swear, you run the risk of being too "Mormon" and looking like a nerd:

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If you curse too much, you run the risk of looking edgy and immature, which is honestly worse. That doesn't fly by a lot of normies.

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I say the best ratio of swear words to other words should be like 1:150. Obviously don't count every time like a sperg but my point is just sprinkle "fuck" or "shit" like once. Don't call women "bitches" or "cunts". In fact, never use the word "retard", "faggot", "cunt", and especially not "nigga/nigger" (should go without saying). STAY AWAY FROM ALL SLURS. Also don't use swear words when talking about people, only inanimate things or occasionally, yourself.

Good: "Bruh I can't believe Professor Mike Mew gave us 10 pages of orthotropics homework. Dude, I don't know if I can go out to the bar tonight. I'm so fucked."

Bad: "Bruh Julia is such an ugly cunt and Bella is borderline retarded. I don't know how she got that job at Starbucks, that bitch."

Flag Palestine GIF by Guy with Red Beard


I am aware that your hoejabi Arab oneitis can't stop posting about "muh Palestine" but as a man you need to shut the fuck up about anything unless prompted to answer. For instance, if someone asks what you think about Da Joos vs Muzzies, the best answer to give is to deflect and say, "It's sad to think about how many innocent children have been killed on both sides. It's tragic really...". Do not ever, ever speak about religion or politicians unless prompted. Depending on who you speak you, you will have to follow the Overton Window.


This BOTB thread goes into far more detail than I do about the Overton Window, and honestly, it's the thread that inspired me to write this ULTIMATE thread.

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One more thing I want to touch on: LGBT rights. Despite what normies say, being gay is not widely accepted among normies, it's just that they tolerate it. So basically most "progressive" liberal women will be okay if you say you are fine with gay marriage but are not gay yourself. Like everything else mentioned, NEVER BRING IT UP unless prompted/necessary. Most "Christian" women don't like gay people.

Do you see a pattern here? Being balanced is the key, because most normies are balanced. They aren't special or strong in one particular thing, which makes them prone to disliking extremism.


This might take a bit of introspection and self-awareness which I struggled with for a long time. Don't be sarcastic or condescending to normfags. They don't like it when you talk down to them (despite their peanut brains mentally judging ugly incels 24/7 :feelskek:).

Think about why people on here don't like users like @anthony111553 and @moggathon ...it's because they started insulting people as soon as they registered, which pitted them against everyone at once. Social dynamics are everywhere, even on freakshow websites such as this.

Bullying anyone, even if it's a subhuman, never looks good. Just avoid it at all costs.

Occasionally, it's healthy to poke fun at a buddy or a girl you have a crush on in a group setting. Don't make fun of a flaw they can't control or something serious. NEVER EVER call a normie ugly. Go for something small, like an error in the way they recently comported themselves. Don't make an esoteric complex joke no one will understand, and don't mock multiple people at once because they can gang up on you and "ratio" you IRL.

On the flip side, this is why @Kamui and @Gengar can get away with insulting me sometimes. It's because they are relevant I "know" them (as well as you can know someone on a racist Indian forum), so I don't get super mad when they call me a Dalit or something.

Good joke: 2 weeks after getting to know Bella, I say "Bella is so clumsy. She spilled her water all over me haha." to her friend group.

Bad joke: 8 hours after knowing Julia and Bella, I say "Shut up, Julia, you ugly big-nosed recessed bitch :lul: :lul::lul:), it's over for you and Bella's flat maxilla. No wonder you will be a wageslave forever. It's OVER." At this point, I would be fucked, because I'm pitting my ugly ass against two white women who will tell me to shut up in front of a gaggle of normie freaks.

Girl after I knew her for an hour: are you allergic to pineapple? What if you smell it?

Me: it's not like I'm gonna fucking snort it, am I?

See how this can be offensive? I was clearly joking but even this subtle comment pissed her off and her hatred for me snowballed from there, leading to me getting fired from my job this summer.


You can still be funny in other ways. Just stick to TikTok humor. Reference memes and stuff from NT sources as well when necessary, just make sure they are POPULAR. No one will understand some gay nerdy joke from Skyrim mod #1049583, which leads me to my next point...



This used to be hard for me

In 8th grade, I told a girl I had a crush on that I was excited Star Wars Battlefront 2 was coming out, and she was like "wtf is that". Needless to say, I never pulled her.


Movies, Games, and Sports to talk about from most to least popular:

Good (most normies can relate)Okay (passable to mention a few times or with certain niches)Bad (don't ever bring up or catch people seeing you do this when they don't know you well)
Movies/TVStar Wars (main movies only), Marvel (Big movies only, like spider-man or Avengers Infinity War), Batman, Harry Potter, Twilight (women only), Euphoria, Breaking Bad, The Boys (men only), Invincible, Spongebob, Family Guy, Scream, Vampire Diaries (women only), Barbie Movie, any christopher nolan movie (men only), Disney movies/shows (with girls), FriendsThe Sopranos (sadly most women and young normies haven't seen), Boardwalk Empire, The Wire (outdated for Gen Z/Alpha), Attack on Titan, Death Note, Jujitsu Kaisen, Chainsaw man, Clueless, Young Sheldon (ironically)August Underground (if you know what this is you're fucked), slaughtered vomit dolls, or any other disgusting fetish gory movie. Nerd things like Battlestar Galactica or childish things like Transformers or My Little Pony are bad too. If you watch any of this shit and tell ppl about it IT'S OVER.
GamesFortnite, Minecraft, COD, Apex Legends, Halo, Mario KartCyberpunk, Fallout, and Red Dead Redemption series. Basically any popular story game as most women don't like these things.Baldur's Gate (a.k.a Dungeons and Dragons), Sonic, Skyrim, FNAF, or any esoteric title that no one has heard of
SportsFootball, Soccer, Weight Lifting, Basketball (very NT), swimmingBaseball, Running (either participating or watching), Horseracing
Curling, Water polo, anything else niche or gay
MusicThe Weeknd, Dua Lipa, Travis Scott, Taylor Swift, Drake, Lil Uzi Vert, One Direction,Marina and the Diamonds, Nirvana, Deftones, Cigarettes After Sex, Maneskin, my chemical romance (basically any alt music that emo whores listen to)Video game music (I don't care if I put it in a popular category above, absolutely do not let your girl find out you listen to the Halo soundtrack), Anime OSTs, Nickelback unironically. Will add more as I think of them in the shower...

REMINDER YOU CAN STILL ENJOY THINGS FROM ANY OF THE ABOVE CATEGORIES JUST EXERCISE CAUTION IF THEY ARE IN THE OKAY CATEGORY AND DON'T TALK ABOUT THEM IF THEY ARE IN THE BAD CATEGORY.


Another note from the aforementioned @John Cracovizk thread. In fact, he says it better than I do so I will just copy and paste it here. Hopefully that is okay, John:

"From incels :incel: (people who are disgusted or bully you) to chads :chad: (envy and shit), sometimes people who have a dislike towards you may appear, it may be by reference or by remembering a behavior, look or even remembering another person who antagonized them at another time.

It's natural, and to deal with these people you need to have little contact as possible, stay away from those who don't like you for whatever reason, whether it's your fault or not it's always your responsibility to deal with it, your conflict is for the one who will gain the most social credit, the one who will gain the most validation from the group, leave your pride aside and remember: it is a war of morals not of pride.

It is better to be defeated personally than morally.
So, stay within the group's precepts, because everyone will think you did it right, everyone will pat you on the back and you won't lose social credit, the situation and the conflict are temporary, it's better that your antagonist emerge morally defeated with his pride intact than otherwise, but also remember not to let the mask dominate and you lose yourself to the point of allowing yourself to be humiliated and trampled to the point of not being worth the social credit.

There are moments that aren't worth it, if you impose yourself, you'll be trampled on and the group won't come to defend you, but in small conflicts that won't get physical, it's just a fight of pride, they're quite silly and nothing serious. Just be careful when it comes to a discussion with women, as they naturally already have high social credit in our society, and as a man you probably DEFINITELY have less than her, you will have to bite the bullet and don't challenge it, it's better to bite the bullet than end up imposing yourself and seeming the COWARD against a woman."

Very well written. It actually opened my eyes when I first read it.


Not gonna expand on this since I already said so much. All I'll say for this one is that most normfags and women do not think your 9/11 Hitler-Obama animal sodomy slave joke is funny.

This is what normies mean when they say "just be confident bro". They mean don't be weak. Do not ever, EVER, make self-deprecating jokes or try to be clingy with people who clearly aren't interested in you. Don't ask them to hang out after they cancel on plans or say no to you more than 3 times in a row. Never joke about yourself in any capacity. No, you aren't self-aware, you're just a dance monkey. Also, don't be the class clown if you're in school. Those guys are usually bully victims and no girl goes "he's so hot :aheago:" even if they laugh at his gay jokes.

At this point, you are probably tired of all the reading, so imagine how much effort I put into writing it...

Okay, so I told you what you shouldn't do for the most part. Here is what you should do instead. You might be worried that you won't be funny or charismatic enough, but the good news is that you can still stand out as a "likable and popular guy" if you do these things:

1) "Pick a slayer you know IRL and then LARP as them." This is not my advice but I found that it works quite well. Here's the guy I got it from. (RIP User Vic Mackey):


Gotta fake it till you make it. Obviously don't pretend to be a 10/10 chad who gets laid every weekend because it looks like you're being fake and cocky, but be like "oh yeah I was talking to this girl" (don't mention names so it's harder to verify) which makes it seem like you're popular with the other gender and get around.

2) Unironically lift people up. Normies are incredibly vain and love complements. If you go for a compliment, start with something they did themselves, such as telling them "That shirt goes hard", "I like the way you did your hair", or "you're genuinely the funniest person I've met in a long time". If you know them for a while or are more intimate (i.e. rizzing up a girl) pick a non-erotic-body part. Example: You have really nice eyes. Bonus points if it's something they're obviously insecure about as it makes them feel even safer around you, e.g: "you have a beautiful nose Julia" (actually, she has a giant Jew nose and I secretly hope she gets a rhinoplasty asap).

3) Be funny. Being edgy or racist isn't funny. What IS funny are anecdotes. There are plenty of good videos on how to tell funny stories without being long or complex.

4) say good things about people behind their back. This one is so genius. I ONLY SAY good things about normies whenever they aren't around. If their friends overhear, even better. This will get back to them and they will think extremely highly of them.


General tips:

1) this mostly applies to normalfags and women, not guy friends you are incredibly close with. With my three best friends I use borderline .org humor and am incredibly edgy and obviously, they're not gonna say anything. However, if you aren't close to them err on the side of caution on follow this guide.

2) If it's funny on .org or incels.is , it's probably not funny IRL. Don't go around calling people recessed Dalits and joking about 5' 3" balding Indians. Never bring up the blackpill to women, EVER. This one is so hard for me jfl.

3) This should be your default setting when you don't know someone, but you should adapt as you find more info about them. If you find the group you're with to be slightly more one-way (i.e. finds Andrew Tate funny, feel free to say something about how smoking is cool or something).

4) all normies follow this thread subconsciously, 100%. They all know this info in and out. They have an advantage compared to socially stunted dogs like us, so if you choose to ignore this don't come crying to me when you can't solve your "mentalceldom". Think about that when you write DNRD.

5) if you fuck up a little at first, it's okay. I know there are so many rules that it will be hard for the first month or so, but eventually, you should get the hang of it.

Threads referenced (repeated from above):




tagging people who actually show signs of brain activity: @Squirtle @pneumocystosis

shit i literally can't think of anyone else. Whoops.

Why worry about whether or not normies like you when you can make them worry about whether or not you like them?
 
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Dnrd, I honestly don't give a single fuck about normies liking me, I just want to bust inside Stacy ass.
 
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made small adjustments. Praying this gets to 20 reps so it can get stickied. I think this is one of the only good NT guides on here
 
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Thread song (got the idea from @PseudoMaxxer ):


(At first, it may seem like the song is telling you to be yourself, but really I see it as Ava saying you should conform to whatever audience you're dealing with at the moment)

Salutations autists
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I realize many of you guys don't know how to speak to ppl in general which is a massive problem. You see, personality might be a meme, but neurotypicality is not. You cannot come off as abrasive or hostile to normies, or else they will reject you. Normies are stupid but are necessary to climbing the social ladder.

This is a true story. I suffered so fucking much as a kid because I didn't understand basic social norms, as an only child Pajeet with immigrant parents. I still struggle a lot with not pissing off normies, so this guide is also for me as well as you. It can make the difference between a girl spending another hour with you, when you can rizz her up, or whether she packs up and leaves to get away from you.

Being NT isn't being a pushover/doormat/submissive to society. Rather, it's a preventative measure to ensure normies don't REJECT you. In other words, none of this will make you more likeable, rather it prevents you from being unlikeable. Basically what I'm trying to say is that if you're 2/10 truecel this guide won't magically make girls hop on your dick in the middle of the college library. Rather, it will prevent people from avoiding you in the college library. And yes, you will still have to interact with normies even if you are truecel whether for academically related reasons or other reasons. Besides, most people here are in the LTN-HTN range (I know that 99% of .org thinks they are HTN.)

Furthermore, many of your future male friends (that you need in order to be NT) will start off as normies as well until you get to know them better. Don't make the mistake of making them think you're weak.

Just to let you know, I have taken inspiration from three other threads which I will link in this thread but will cite whenever I borrow something from them.

TL;DR: There are certain things you cannot talk about with normies if you want them to accept you.

inb4 "muh chad can speak however he wants :soy: ." Yes, but YOU are not Chad.


This will be a common theme throughout this post so if you find yourself asking this when I tell you to do something, tell your brain to shut the fuck up and listen to me.



You need to swear a little, among peers and not authority figures like teachers or bosses of course.

If you never swear, you run the risk of being too "Mormon" and looking like a nerd:

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If you curse too much, you run the risk of looking edgy and immature, which is honestly worse. That doesn't fly by a lot of normies.

shadow the hedgehog GIF


I say the best ratio of swear words to other words should be like 1:150. Obviously don't count every time like a sperg but my point is just sprinkle "fuck" or "shit" like once. Don't call women "bitches" or "cunts". In fact, never use the word "retard", "faggot", "cunt", and especially not "nigga/nigger" (should go without saying). STAY AWAY FROM ALL SLURS. Also don't use swear words when talking about people, only inanimate things or occasionally, yourself.

Good: "Bruh I can't believe Professor Mike Mew gave us 10 pages of orthotropics homework. Dude, I don't know if I can go out to the bar tonight. I'm so fucked."

Bad: "Bruh Julia is such an ugly cunt and Bella is borderline retarded. I don't know how she got that job at Starbucks, that bitch."

Flag Palestine GIF by Guy with Red Beard


I am aware that your hoejabi Arab oneitis can't stop posting about "muh Palestine" but as a man you need to shut the fuck up about anything unless prompted to answer. For instance, if someone asks what you think about Da Joos vs Muzzies, the best answer to give is to deflect and say, "It's sad to think about how many innocent children have been killed on both sides. It's tragic really...". Do not ever, ever speak about religion or politicians unless prompted. Depending on who you speak you, you will have to follow the Overton Window.


This BOTB thread goes into far more detail than I do about the Overton Window, and honestly, it's the thread that inspired me to write this ULTIMATE thread.

Gay Pride GIF by Hello All


One more thing I want to touch on: LGBT rights. Despite what normies say, being gay is not widely accepted among normies, it's just that they tolerate it. So basically most "progressive" liberal women will be okay if you say you are fine with gay marriage but are not gay yourself. Like everything else mentioned, NEVER BRING IT UP unless prompted/necessary. Most "Christian" women don't like gay people.

Do you see a pattern here? Being balanced is the key, because most normies are balanced. They aren't special or strong in one particular thing, which makes them prone to disliking extremism.


This might take a bit of introspection and self-awareness which I struggled with for a long time. Don't be sarcastic or condescending to normfags. They don't like it when you talk down to them (despite their peanut brains mentally judging ugly incels 24/7 :feelskek:).

Think about why people on here don't like users like @anthony111553 and @moggathon ...it's because they started insulting people as soon as they registered, which pitted them against everyone at once. Social dynamics are everywhere, even on freakshow websites such as this.

Bullying anyone, even if it's a subhuman, never looks good. Just avoid it at all costs.

Occasionally, it's healthy to poke fun at a buddy or a girl you have a crush on in a group setting. Don't make fun of a flaw they can't control or something serious. NEVER EVER call a normie ugly. Go for something small, like an error in the way they recently comported themselves. Don't make an esoteric complex joke no one will understand, and don't mock multiple people at once because they can gang up on you and "ratio" you IRL.

On the flip side, this is why @Kamui and @Gengar can get away with insulting me sometimes. It's because they are relevant I "know" them (as well as you can know someone on a racist Indian forum), so I don't get super mad when they call me a Dalit or something.

Good joke: 2 weeks after getting to know Bella, I say "Bella is so clumsy. She spilled her water all over me haha." to her friend group.

Bad joke: 8 hours after knowing Julia and Bella, I say "Shut up, Julia, you ugly big-nosed recessed bitch :lul: :lul::lul:), it's over for you and Bella's flat maxilla. No wonder you will be a wageslave forever. It's OVER." At this point, I would be fucked, because I'm pitting my ugly ass against two white women who will tell me to shut up in front of a gaggle of normie freaks.

Girl after I knew her for an hour: are you allergic to pineapple? What if you smell it?

Me: it's not like I'm gonna fucking snort it, am I?

See how this can be offensive? I was clearly joking but even this subtle comment pissed her off and her hatred for me snowballed from there, leading to me getting fired from my job this summer.


You can still be funny in other ways. Just stick to TikTok humor. Reference memes and stuff from NT sources as well when necessary, just make sure they are POPULAR. No one will understand some gay nerdy joke from Skyrim mod #1049583, which leads me to my next point...



This used to be hard for me

In 8th grade, I told a girl I had a crush on that I was excited Star Wars Battlefront 2 was coming out, and she was like "wtf is that". Needless to say, I never pulled her.


Movies, Games, and Sports to talk about from most to least popular:

Good (most normies can relate)Okay (passable to mention a few times or with certain niches)Bad (don't ever bring up or catch people seeing you do this when they don't know you well)
Movies/TVStar Wars (main movies only), Marvel (Big movies only, like spider-man or Avengers Infinity War), Batman, Harry Potter, Twilight (women only), Euphoria, Breaking Bad, The Boys (men only), Invincible, Spongebob, Family Guy, Scream, Vampire Diaries (women only), Barbie Movie, any christopher nolan movie (men only), Disney movies/shows (with girls), FriendsThe Sopranos (sadly most women and young normies haven't seen), Boardwalk Empire, The Wire (outdated for Gen Z/Alpha), Attack on Titan, Death Note, Jujitsu Kaisen, Chainsaw man, Clueless, Young Sheldon (ironically)August Underground (if you know what this is you're fucked), slaughtered vomit dolls, or any other disgusting fetish gory movie. Nerd things like Battlestar Galactica or childish things like Transformers or My Little Pony are bad too. If you watch any of this shit and tell ppl about it IT'S OVER.
GamesFortnite, Minecraft, COD, Apex Legends, Halo, Mario Kart, Roblox (foids LOVE this game for some reason...)Cyberpunk, Fallout, Spider-Man PS4/5 Resident Evil (some girls love this game cuz of Leon), and the Red Dead Redemption series. Basically any popular story game as most women don't like these things.Baldur's Gate (a.k.a Dungeons and Dragons), Sonic, Skyrim, FNAF, or any esoteric title that no one has heard of
SportsFootball, Soccer, Weight Lifting, Basketball (very NT), swimmingBaseball, Running (either participating or watching), Horseracing
Curling, Water polo, anything else niche or gay
MusicThe Weeknd, Dua Lipa, Travis Scott, Taylor Swift, Drake, Lil Uzi Vert, One Direction,Marina and the Diamonds, Nirvana, Deftones, Cigarettes After Sex, Maneskin, my chemical romance (basically any alt music that emo whores listen to)Video game music (I don't care if I put it in a popular category above, absolutely do not let your girl find out you listen to the Halo soundtrack), Anime OSTs, Nickelback unironically. Will add more as I think of them in the shower...

REMINDER YOU CAN STILL ENJOY THINGS FROM ANY OF THE ABOVE CATEGORIES JUST EXERCISE CAUTION IF THEY ARE IN THE OKAY CATEGORY AND DON'T TALK ABOUT THEM IF THEY ARE IN THE BAD CATEGORY.


Another note from the aforementioned @John Cracovizk thread. In fact, he says it better than I do so I will just copy and paste it here. Hopefully that is okay, John:

"From incels :incel: (people who are disgusted or bully you) to chads :chad: (envy and shit), sometimes people who have a dislike towards you may appear, it may be by reference or by remembering a behavior, look or even remembering another person who antagonized them at another time.

It's natural, and to deal with these people you need to have little contact as possible, stay away from those who don't like you for whatever reason, whether it's your fault or not it's always your responsibility to deal with it, your conflict is for the one who will gain the most social credit, the one who will gain the most validation from the group, leave your pride aside and remember: it is a war of morals not of pride.

It is better to be defeated personally than morally.
So, stay within the group's precepts, because everyone will think you did it right, everyone will pat you on the back and you won't lose social credit, the situation and the conflict are temporary, it's better that your antagonist emerge morally defeated with his pride intact than otherwise, but also remember not to let the mask dominate and you lose yourself to the point of allowing yourself to be humiliated and trampled to the point of not being worth the social credit.

There are moments that aren't worth it, if you impose yourself, you'll be trampled on and the group won't come to defend you, but in small conflicts that won't get physical, it's just a fight of pride, they're quite silly and nothing serious. Just be careful when it comes to a discussion with women, as they naturally already have high social credit in our society, and as a man you probably DEFINITELY have less than her, you will have to bite the bullet and don't challenge it, it's better to bite the bullet than end up imposing yourself and seeming the COWARD against a woman."

Very well written. It actually opened my eyes when I first read it.


Not gonna expand on this since I already said so much. All I'll say for this one is that most normfags and women do not think your 9/11 Hitler-Obama animal sodomy slave joke is funny. Also don't brag about doing dumb things. Your oneitis doesn't think you're macho because you inject heroin for fun. In fact, many foids can get turned off by alcohol or cig use so be careful who you tell.

This is what normies mean when they say "just be confident bro". They mean don't be weak.

Never reach out to normies and tell them about how you are lonely or can't make friends. Opening up to vicious normies is like dropping blood into shark-infested waters.

Furthermore, do not ever, EVER, make self-deprecating jokes or try to be clingy with people who clearly aren't interested in you. Don't ask them to hang out after they cancel on plans or say no to you more than 3 times in a row. Never joke about yourself in any capacity. No, you aren't self-aware, you're just a dance monkey. Also, don't be the class clown if you're in school. Those guys are usually bully victims and no girl goes "he's so hot :aheago:" even if they laugh at his gay jokes.

At this point, you are probably tired of all the reading, so imagine how much effort I put into writing it...

Okay, so I told you what you shouldn't do for the most part. Here is what you should do instead. You might be worried that you won't be funny or charismatic enough, but the good news is that you can still stand out as a "likable and popular guy" if you do these things:

1) "Pick a slayer you know IRL and then LARP as them." This is not my advice but I found that it works quite well. Here's the guy I got it from. (RIP User Vic Mackey):


Gotta fake it till you make it. Obviously don't pretend to be a 10/10 chad who gets laid every weekend because it looks like you're being fake and cocky, but be like "oh yeah I was talking to this girl" (don't mention names so it's harder to verify) which makes it seem like you're popular with the other gender and get around.

2) Unironically lift people up. Normies are incredibly vain and love complements. If you go for a compliment, start with something they did themselves, such as telling them "That shirt goes hard", "I like the way you did your hair", or "you're genuinely the funniest person I've met in a long time". If you know them for a while or are more intimate (i.e. rizzing up a girl) pick a non-erotic-body part. Example: You have really nice eyes. Bonus points if it's something they're obviously insecure about as it makes them feel even safer around you, e.g: "you have a beautiful nose Julia" (actually, she has a giant Jew nose and I secretly hope she gets a rhinoplasty asap).

3) Be funny. Being edgy or racist isn't funny. What IS funny are anecdotes. There are plenty of good videos on how to tell funny stories without being long or complex.

4) say good things about people behind their back. This one is so genius. I ONLY SAY good things about normies whenever they aren't around. If their friends overhear, even better. This will get back to them and they will think extremely highly of them.


General tips:

1) this mostly applies to normalfags and women, not guy friends you are incredibly close with. With my three best friends I use borderline .org humor and am incredibly edgy and obviously, they're not gonna say anything. However, if you aren't close to them err on the side of caution and follow this guide.

2) If it's funny on .org or incels.is , it's probably not funny IRL. Don't go around calling people recessed Dalits and joking about 5' 3" balding Indians. Never bring up the blackpill to women, EVER. This one is so hard for me jfl.

3) This should be your default setting when you don't know someone, but you should adapt as you find more info about them. If you find the group you're with to be slightly more one-way (i.e. finds Andrew Tate funny, feel free to say something about how smoking is cool or something).

4) all normies follow this thread subconsciously, 100%. They all know this info in and out. They have an advantage compared to socially stunted dogs like us, so if you choose to ignore this don't come crying to me when you can't solve your "mentalceldom". Think about that when you write DNRD.

5) if you fuck up a little at first, it's okay. I know there are so many rules that it will be hard for the first month or so, but eventually, you should get the hang of it.

Threads referenced (repeated from above):




tagging people who actually show signs of brain activity: @Squirtle @pneumocystosis

shit i literally can't think of anyone else. Whoops.

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i'd remove taylor swift 100% bc girls will automatically tell you are just lying or they'll think ur gay, I'd add Tyler the creator, brent faiyaz, SZA, bruno mars, could add yeat and ken carson too but that might scare the hoes away
Bruh you arent NT and not smart

I will add Koffi Olomide, Micheal Jackson etc
 
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that is exactly what you do around people you don’t fucking know. As I have mentioned a million times you can loosen up around your friends
 
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Average normie theory consists of “nigger good, Jew good, women rights good”

“Me need latest slop entertainment”

“Me like thing that gets most corporate and government promotion”
You WILL love the jews, you WILL love the niggers and you WILL love the faggots:feelshah:
 
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I will add Koffi Olomide, Micheal Jackson etc
1) I'm actually in high school so I know what music is popular
2) Who tf is Koffi Olomide
 
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Back in early high school, I was the typical quiet and smart nerd. I was tired of it so I spent the last 2 years NTmaxxing. Now I’m in a popular frat at my uni and regularly go out to bars and do pregames w sorority girls, which gave me couple of successes. I also befriended a lot of normies and chads (still, a lot of them r shallow friendships cause I can’t be my true self. My best friend is a fellow autist jfl) What I realized is that NTness is so much more important than looks (ONCE u pass a certain threshold, still over if ur sub5) I know a 5’6 fillipino guy who slays hella girls just cause of his ntness (but also hes facially 6/10).

***NTmaxx for LIFE!!!***
 
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Surely your just NT or your not. If you can't fake it easily don't think reading any amount of guides can help
 
Thread song (got the idea from @PseudoMaxxer ):


(At first, it may seem like the song is telling you to be yourself, but really I see it as Ava saying you should conform to whatever audience you're dealing with at the moment)

Salutations autists
.

I realize many of you guys don't know how to speak to ppl in general which is a massive problem. You see, personality might be a meme, but neurotypicality is not. You cannot come off as abrasive or hostile to normies, or else they will reject you. Normies are stupid but are necessary to climbing the social ladder.

This is a true story. I suffered so fucking much as a kid because I didn't understand basic social norms, as an only child Pajeet with immigrant parents. I still struggle a lot with not pissing off normies, so this guide is also for me as well as you. It can make the difference between a girl spending another hour with you, when you can rizz her up, or whether she packs up and leaves to get away from you.

Being NT isn't being a pushover/doormat/submissive to society. Rather, it's a preventative measure to ensure normies don't REJECT you. In other words, none of this will make you more likeable, rather it prevents you from being unlikeable. Basically what I'm trying to say is that if you're 2/10 truecel this guide won't magically make girls hop on your dick in the middle of the college library. Rather, it will prevent people from avoiding you in the college library. And yes, you will still have to interact with normies even if you are truecel whether for academically related reasons or other reasons. Besides, most people here are in the LTN-HTN range (I know that 99% of .org thinks they are HTN.)

Furthermore, many of your future male friends (that you need in order to be NT) will start off as normies as well until you get to know them better. Don't make the mistake of making them think you're weak.

Just to let you know, I have taken inspiration from three other threads which I will link in this thread but will cite whenever I borrow something from them.

TL;DR: There are certain things you cannot talk about with normies if you want them to accept you.

inb4 "muh chad can speak however he wants :soy: ." Yes, but YOU are not Chad.


This will be a common theme throughout this post so if you find yourself asking this when I tell you to do something, tell your brain to shut the fuck up and listen to me.



You need to swear a little, among peers and not authority figures like teachers or bosses of course.

If you never swear, you run the risk of being too "Mormon" and looking like a nerd:

View attachment 2662457

If you curse too much, you run the risk of looking edgy and immature, which is honestly worse. That doesn't fly by a lot of normies.

shadow the hedgehog GIF


I say the best ratio of swear words to other words should be like 1:150. Obviously don't count every time like a sperg but my point is just sprinkle "fuck" or "shit" like once. Don't call women "bitches" or "cunts". In fact, never use the word "retard", "faggot", "cunt", and especially not "nigga/nigger" (should go without saying). STAY AWAY FROM ALL SLURS. Also don't use swear words when talking about people, only inanimate things or occasionally, yourself.

Good: "Bruh I can't believe Professor Mike Mew gave us 10 pages of orthotropics homework. Dude, I don't know if I can go out to the bar tonight. I'm so fucked."

Bad: "Bruh Julia is such an ugly cunt and Bella is borderline retarded. I don't know how she got that job at Starbucks, that bitch."

Flag Palestine GIF by Guy with Red Beard


I am aware that your hoejabi Arab oneitis can't stop posting about "muh Palestine" but as a man you need to shut the fuck up about anything unless prompted to answer. For instance, if someone asks what you think about Da Joos vs Muzzies, the best answer to give is to deflect and say, "It's sad to think about how many innocent children have been killed on both sides. It's tragic really...". Do not ever, ever speak about religion or politicians unless prompted. Depending on who you speak you, you will have to follow the Overton Window.


This BOTB thread goes into far more detail than I do about the Overton Window, and honestly, it's the thread that inspired me to write this ULTIMATE thread.

Gay Pride GIF by Hello All


One more thing I want to touch on: LGBT rights. Despite what normies say, being gay is not widely accepted among normies, it's just that they tolerate it. So basically most "progressive" liberal women will be okay if you say you are fine with gay marriage but are not gay yourself. Like everything else mentioned, NEVER BRING IT UP unless prompted/necessary. Most "Christian" women don't like gay people.

Do you see a pattern here? Being balanced is the key, because most normies are balanced. They aren't special or strong in one particular thing, which makes them prone to disliking extremism.


This might take a bit of introspection and self-awareness which I struggled with for a long time. Don't be sarcastic or condescending to normfags. They don't like it when you talk down to them (despite their peanut brains mentally judging ugly incels 24/7 :feelskek:).

Think about why people on here don't like users like @anthony111553 and @moggathon ...it's because they started insulting people as soon as they registered, which pitted them against everyone at once. Social dynamics are everywhere, even on freakshow websites such as this.

Bullying anyone, even if it's a subhuman, never looks good. Just avoid it at all costs.

Occasionally, it's healthy to poke fun at a buddy or a girl you have a crush on in a group setting. Don't make fun of a flaw they can't control or something serious. NEVER EVER call a normie ugly. Go for something small, like an error in the way they recently comported themselves. Don't make an esoteric complex joke no one will understand, and don't mock multiple people at once because they can gang up on you and "ratio" you IRL.

On the flip side, this is why @Kamui and @Gengar can get away with insulting me sometimes. It's because they are relevant I "know" them (as well as you can know someone on a racist Indian forum), so I don't get super mad when they call me a Dalit or something.

Good joke: 2 weeks after getting to know Bella, I say "Bella is so clumsy. She spilled her water all over me haha." to her friend group.

Bad joke: 8 hours after knowing Julia and Bella, I say "Shut up, Julia, you ugly big-nosed recessed bitch :lul: :lul::lul:), it's over for you and Bella's flat maxilla. No wonder you will be a wageslave forever. It's OVER." At this point, I would be fucked, because I'm pitting my ugly ass against two white women who will tell me to shut up in front of a gaggle of normie freaks.

Girl after I knew her for an hour: are you allergic to pineapple? What if you smell it?

Me: it's not like I'm gonna fucking snort it, am I?

See how this can be offensive? I was clearly joking but even this subtle comment pissed her off and her hatred for me snowballed from there, leading to me getting fired from my job this summer.


You can still be funny in other ways. Just stick to TikTok humor. Reference memes and stuff from NT sources as well when necessary, just make sure they are POPULAR. No one will understand some gay nerdy joke from Skyrim mod #1049583, which leads me to my next point...



This used to be hard for me

In 8th grade, I told a girl I had a crush on that I was excited Star Wars Battlefront 2 was coming out, and she was like "wtf is that". Needless to say, I never pulled her.


Movies, Games, and Sports to talk about from most to least popular:

Good (most normies can relate)Okay (passable to mention a few times or with certain niches)Bad (don't ever bring up or catch people seeing you do this when they don't know you well)
Movies/TVStar Wars (main movies only), Marvel (Big movies only, like spider-man or Avengers Infinity War), Batman, Harry Potter, Twilight (women only), Euphoria, Breaking Bad, The Boys (men only), Invincible, Spongebob, Family Guy, Scream, Vampire Diaries (women only), Barbie Movie, any christopher nolan movie (men only), Disney movies/shows (with girls), FriendsThe Sopranos (sadly most women and young normies haven't seen), Boardwalk Empire, The Wire (outdated for Gen Z/Alpha), Attack on Titan, Death Note, Jujitsu Kaisen, Chainsaw man, Clueless, Young Sheldon (ironically)August Underground (if you know what this is you're fucked), slaughtered vomit dolls, or any other disgusting fetish gory movie. Nerd things like Battlestar Galactica or childish things like Transformers or My Little Pony are bad too. If you watch any of this shit and tell ppl about it IT'S OVER.
GamesFortnite, Minecraft, COD, Apex Legends, Halo, Mario Kart, Roblox (foids LOVE this game for some reason...)Cyberpunk, Fallout, Spider-Man PS4/5 Resident Evil (some girls love this game cuz of Leon), and the Red Dead Redemption series. Basically any popular story game as most women don't like these things.Baldur's Gate (a.k.a Dungeons and Dragons), Sonic, Skyrim, FNAF, or any esoteric title that no one has heard of
SportsFootball, Soccer, Weight Lifting, Basketball (very NT), swimmingBaseball, Running (either participating or watching), Horseracing
Curling, Water polo, anything else niche or gay
MusicThe Weeknd, Dua Lipa, Travis Scott, Taylor Swift, Drake, Lil Uzi Vert, One Direction,Marina and the Diamonds, Nirvana, Deftones, Cigarettes After Sex, Maneskin, my chemical romance (basically any alt music that emo whores listen to)Video game music (I don't care if I put it in a popular category above, absolutely do not let your girl find out you listen to the Halo soundtrack), Anime OSTs, Nickelback unironically. Will add more as I think of them in the shower...

REMINDER YOU CAN STILL ENJOY THINGS FROM ANY OF THE ABOVE CATEGORIES JUST EXERCISE CAUTION IF THEY ARE IN THE OKAY CATEGORY AND DON'T TALK ABOUT THEM IF THEY ARE IN THE BAD CATEGORY.


Another note from the aforementioned @John Cracovizk thread. In fact, he says it better than I do so I will just copy and paste it here. Hopefully that is okay, John:

"From incels :incel: (people who are disgusted or bully you) to chads :chad: (envy and shit), sometimes people who have a dislike towards you may appear, it may be by reference or by remembering a behavior, look or even remembering another person who antagonized them at another time.

It's natural, and to deal with these people you need to have little contact as possible, stay away from those who don't like you for whatever reason, whether it's your fault or not it's always your responsibility to deal with it, your conflict is for the one who will gain the most social credit, the one who will gain the most validation from the group, leave your pride aside and remember: it is a war of morals not of pride.

It is better to be defeated personally than morally.
So, stay within the group's precepts, because everyone will think you did it right, everyone will pat you on the back and you won't lose social credit, the situation and the conflict are temporary, it's better that your antagonist emerge morally defeated with his pride intact than otherwise, but also remember not to let the mask dominate and you lose yourself to the point of allowing yourself to be humiliated and trampled to the point of not being worth the social credit.

There are moments that aren't worth it, if you impose yourself, you'll be trampled on and the group won't come to defend you, but in small conflicts that won't get physical, it's just a fight of pride, they're quite silly and nothing serious. Just be careful when it comes to a discussion with women, as they naturally already have high social credit in our society, and as a man you probably DEFINITELY have less than her, you will have to bite the bullet and don't challenge it, it's better to bite the bullet than end up imposing yourself and seeming the COWARD against a woman."

Very well written. It actually opened my eyes when I first read it.


Not gonna expand on this since I already said so much. All I'll say for this one is that most normfags and women do not think your 9/11 Hitler-Obama animal sodomy slave joke is funny.

Also NEVER don't brag about doing dumb things. Your oneitis doesn't think you're macho because you inject heroin for fun. In fact, many foids can get turned off by alcohol or cig use so be careful who you tell

Furthermore, if you brag about breaking the rules or getting away with something to someone else you’re putting yourself in a position where that person can potentially snitch on you.

This is what normies mean when they say "just be confident bro". They mean don't be weak.

Never reach out to normies and tell them about how you are lonely or can't make friends. Opening up to vicious normies is like dropping blood into shark-infested waters.

Furthermore, do not ever, EVER, make self-deprecating jokes or try to be clingy with people who clearly aren't interested in you. Don't ask them to hang out after they cancel on plans or say no to you more than 3 times in a row. Never joke about yourself in any capacity. No, you aren't self-aware, you're just a dance monkey. Also, don't be the class clown if you're in school. Those guys are usually bully victims and no girl goes "he's so hot :aheago:" even if they laugh at his gay jokes.

At this point, you are probably tired of all the reading, so imagine how much effort I put into writing it...

Okay, so I told you what you shouldn't do for the most part. Here is what you should do instead. You might be worried that you won't be funny or charismatic enough, but the good news is that you can still stand out as a "likable and popular guy" if you do these things:

1) "Pick a slayer you know IRL and then LARP as them." This is not my advice but I found that it works quite well. Here's the guy I got it from. (RIP User Vic Mackey):


Gotta fake it till you make it. Obviously don't pretend to be a 10/10 chad who gets laid every weekend because it looks like you're being fake and cocky, but be like "oh yeah I was talking to this girl" (don't mention names so it's harder to verify) which makes it seem like you're popular with the other gender and get around.

2) Unironically lift people up. Normies are incredibly vain and love complements. If you go for a compliment, start with something they did themselves, such as telling them "That shirt goes hard", "I like the way you did your hair", or "you're genuinely the funniest person I've met in a long time". If you know them for a while or are more intimate (i.e. rizzing up a girl) pick a non-erotic-body part. Example: You have really nice eyes. Bonus points if it's something they're obviously insecure about as it makes them feel even safer around you, e.g: "you have a beautiful nose Julia" (actually, she has a giant Jew nose and I secretly hope she gets a rhinoplasty asap).

3) Be funny. Being edgy or racist isn't funny. What IS funny are anecdotes. There are plenty of good videos on how to tell funny stories without being long or complex.

4) say good things about people behind their back. This one is so genius. I ONLY SAY good things about normies whenever they aren't around. If their friends overhear, even better. This will get back to them and they will think extremely highly of them.


General tips:

1) this mostly applies to normalfags and women, not guy friends you are incredibly close with. With my three best friends I use borderline .org humor and am incredibly edgy and obviously, they're not gonna say anything. However, if you aren't close to them err on the side of caution and follow this guide.

2) If it's funny on .org or incels.is , it's probably not funny IRL. Don't go around calling people recessed Dalits and joking about 5' 3" balding Indians. Never bring up the blackpill to women, EVER. This one is so hard for me jfl.

3) This should be your default setting when you don't know someone, but you should adapt as you find more info about them. If you find the group you're with to be slightly more one-way (i.e. finds Andrew Tate funny, feel free to say something about how smoking is cool or something).

4) don’t tell people your business unless you have to. Keep details to a minimum. Everyone must be on a need to know basis. That is how you properly look mysterious, not “muh walk around sulking like an edgelord”.

5) all normies follow this thread subconsciously, 100%. They all know this info in and out. They have an advantage compared to socially stunted dogs like us, so if you choose to ignore this don't come crying to me when you can't solve your "mentalceldom". Think about that when you write DNRD.

6) if you fuck up a little at first, it's okay. I know there are so many rules that it will be hard for the first month or so, but eventually, you should get the hang of it.

Threads referenced (repeated from above):




tagging people who actually show signs of brain activity: @Squirtle @pneumocystosis

shit i literally can't think of anyone else. Whoops.

Good thread for people who were ostacized because of shit looks and now ascended and want to be NT
 
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good thread, will read later
 
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great thread, gonna put it in practice with my nt friends. Hope it works
 
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Good thread for people who were ostacized because of shit looks and now ascended and want to be NT
That’s exactly the demographic I had in mind

When you are like me and grow up ugly you will always be behind normies
 
This list is ok and mostly accurate but not everything applies to Gen Z normies. Zoomers love to shit on people they know.

The thing about insults is that the energy you give off is more important than what you actually say. Once you've made your first impressions on someone else and they see you positively, they won't react badly to an insult from you if you are 1: being fair, and 2: not coming across as being mean. As long as you know that person's boundaries in terms of humor and general conversation you won't fuck anything up.

Literally just be funny, don't take what others say too seriously and find good ways to stand out. For example, I'm witty and use a lot of blunt humor. That thin line that normies won't cross? I'm a couple steps behind it, which gives me more options.

Don't make yourself the focus btw. Let other people talk. Make them feel funny and well liked, that makes them feel good and they'll want to hang with you more.
 
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Good guide bro, but you should also add that in certain environments its not to be racist af. Where I am its a given and its awesome
 
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Thread song (got the idea from @PseudoMaxxer ):


(At first, it may seem like the song is telling you to be yourself, but really I see it as Ava saying you should conform to whatever audience you're dealing with at the moment)

Salutations autists
.

I realize many of you guys don't know how to speak to ppl in general which is a massive problem. You see, personality might be a meme, but neurotypicality is not. You cannot come off as abrasive or hostile to normies, or else they will reject you. Normies are stupid but are necessary to climbing the social ladder.

This is a true story. I suffered so fucking much as a kid because I didn't understand basic social norms, as an only child Pajeet with immigrant parents. I still struggle a lot with not pissing off normies, so this guide is also for me as well as you. It can make the difference between a girl spending another hour with you, when you can rizz her up, or whether she packs up and leaves to get away from you.

Being NT isn't being a pushover/doormat/submissive to society. Rather, it's a preventative measure to ensure normies don't REJECT you. In other words, none of this will make you more likeable, rather it prevents you from being unlikeable. Basically what I'm trying to say is that if you're 2/10 truecel this guide won't magically make girls hop on your dick in the middle of the college library. Rather, it will prevent people from avoiding you in the college library. And yes, you will still have to interact with normies even if you are truecel whether for academically related reasons or other reasons. Besides, most people here are in the LTN-HTN range (I know that 99% of .org thinks they are HTN.)

Furthermore, many of your future male friends (that you need in order to be NT) will start off as normies as well until you get to know them better. Don't make the mistake of making them think you're weak.

Just to let you know, I have taken inspiration from three other threads which I will link in this thread but will cite whenever I borrow something from them.

TL;DR: There are certain things you cannot talk about with normies if you want them to accept you.

inb4 "muh chad can speak however he wants :soy: ." Yes, but YOU are not Chad.


This will be a common theme throughout this post so if you find yourself asking this when I tell you to do something, tell your brain to shut the fuck up and listen to me.



You need to swear a little, among peers and not authority figures like teachers or bosses of course.

If you never swear, you run the risk of being too "Mormon" and looking like a nerd:

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If you curse too much, you run the risk of looking edgy and immature, which is honestly worse. That doesn't fly by a lot of normies.

shadow the hedgehog GIF


I say the best ratio of swear words to other words should be like 1:150. Obviously don't count every time like a sperg but my point is just sprinkle "fuck" or "shit" like once. Don't call women "bitches" or "cunts". In fact, never use the word "retard", "faggot", "cunt", and especially not "nigga/nigger" (should go without saying). STAY AWAY FROM ALL SLURS. Also don't use swear words when talking about people, only inanimate things or occasionally, yourself.

Good: "Bruh I can't believe Professor Mike Mew gave us 10 pages of orthotropics homework. Dude, I don't know if I can go out to the bar tonight. I'm so fucked."

Bad: "Bruh Julia is such an ugly cunt and Bella is borderline retarded. I don't know how she got that job at Starbucks, that bitch."

Flag Palestine GIF by Guy with Red Beard


I am aware that your hoejabi Arab oneitis can't stop posting about "muh Palestine" but as a man you need to shut the fuck up about anything unless prompted to answer. For instance, if someone asks what you think about Da Joos vs Muzzies, the best answer to give is to deflect and say, "It's sad to think about how many innocent children have been killed on both sides. It's tragic really...". Do not ever, ever speak about religion or politicians unless prompted. Depending on who you speak you, you will have to follow the Overton Window.


This BOTB thread goes into far more detail than I do about the Overton Window, and honestly, it's the thread that inspired me to write this ULTIMATE thread.

Gay Pride GIF by Hello All


One more thing I want to touch on: LGBT rights. Despite what normies say, being gay is not widely accepted among normies, it's just that they tolerate it. So basically most "progressive" liberal women will be okay if you say you are fine with gay marriage but are not gay yourself. Like everything else mentioned, NEVER BRING IT UP unless prompted/necessary. Most "Christian" women don't like gay people.

Do you see a pattern here? Being balanced is the key, because most normies are balanced. They aren't special or strong in one particular thing, which makes them prone to disliking extremism.


This might take a bit of introspection and self-awareness which I struggled with for a long time. Don't be sarcastic or condescending to normfags. They don't like it when you talk down to them (despite their peanut brains mentally judging ugly incels 24/7 :feelskek:).

Think about why people on here don't like users like @anthony111553 and @moggathon ...it's because they started insulting people as soon as they registered, which pitted them against everyone at once. Social dynamics are everywhere, even on freakshow websites such as this.

Bullying anyone, even if it's a subhuman, never looks good. Just avoid it at all costs.

Occasionally, it's healthy to poke fun at a buddy or a girl you have a crush on in a group setting. Don't make fun of a flaw they can't control or something serious. NEVER EVER call a normie ugly. Go for something small, like an error in the way they recently comported themselves. Don't make an esoteric complex joke no one will understand, and don't mock multiple people at once because they can gang up on you and "ratio" you IRL.

On the flip side, this is why @Kamui and @Gengar can get away with insulting me sometimes. It's because they are relevant I "know" them (as well as you can know someone on a racist Indian forum), so I don't get super mad when they call me a Dalit or something.

Good joke: 2 weeks after getting to know Bella, I say "Bella is so clumsy. She spilled her water all over me haha." to her friend group.

Bad joke: 8 hours after knowing Julia and Bella, I say "Shut up, Julia, you ugly big-nosed recessed bitch :lul: :lul::lul:), it's over for you and Bella's flat maxilla. No wonder you will be a wageslave forever. It's OVER." At this point, I would be fucked, because I'm pitting my ugly ass against two white women who will tell me to shut up in front of a gaggle of normie freaks.

Girl after I knew her for an hour: are you allergic to pineapple? What if you smell it?

Me: it's not like I'm gonna fucking snort it, am I?

See how this can be offensive? I was clearly joking but even this subtle comment pissed her off and her hatred for me snowballed from there, leading to me getting fired from my job this summer.


You can still be funny in other ways. Just stick to TikTok humor. Reference memes and stuff from NT sources as well when necessary, just make sure they are POPULAR. No one will understand some gay nerdy joke from Skyrim mod #1049583, which leads me to my next point...



This used to be hard for me

In 8th grade, I told a girl I had a crush on that I was excited Star Wars Battlefront 2 was coming out, and she was like "wtf is that". Needless to say, I never pulled her.


Movies, Games, and Sports to talk about from most to least popular:

Good (most normies can relate)Okay (passable to mention a few times or with certain niches)Bad (don't ever bring up or catch people seeing you do this when they don't know you well)
Movies/TVStar Wars (main movies only), Marvel (Big movies only, like spider-man or Avengers Infinity War), Batman, Harry Potter, Twilight (women only), Euphoria, Breaking Bad, The Boys (men only), Invincible, Spongebob, Family Guy, Scream, Vampire Diaries (women only), Barbie Movie, any christopher nolan movie (men only), Disney movies/shows (with girls), FriendsThe Sopranos (sadly most women and young normies haven't seen), Boardwalk Empire, The Wire (outdated for Gen Z/Alpha), Attack on Titan, Death Note, Jujitsu Kaisen, Chainsaw man, Clueless, Young Sheldon (ironically)August Underground (if you know what this is you're fucked), slaughtered vomit dolls, or any other disgusting fetish gory movie. Nerd things like Battlestar Galactica or childish things like Transformers or My Little Pony are bad too. If you watch any of this shit and tell ppl about it IT'S OVER.
GamesFortnite, Minecraft, COD, Apex Legends, Halo, Mario Kart, Roblox (foids LOVE this game for some reason...)Cyberpunk, Fallout, Spider-Man PS4/5 Resident Evil (some girls love this game cuz of Leon), and the Red Dead Redemption series. Basically any popular story game as most women don't like these things.Baldur's Gate (a.k.a Dungeons and Dragons), Sonic, Skyrim, FNAF, or any esoteric title that no one has heard of
SportsFootball, Soccer, Weight Lifting, Basketball (very NT), swimmingBaseball, Running (either participating or watching), Horseracing
Curling, Water polo, anything else niche or gay
MusicThe Weeknd, Dua Lipa, Travis Scott, Taylor Swift, Drake, Lil Uzi Vert, One Direction,Marina and the Diamonds, Nirvana, Deftones, Cigarettes After Sex, Maneskin, my chemical romance (basically any alt music that emo whores listen to)Video game music (I don't care if I put it in a popular category above, absolutely do not let your girl find out you listen to the Halo soundtrack), Anime OSTs, Nickelback unironically. Will add more as I think of them in the shower...

REMINDER YOU CAN STILL ENJOY THINGS FROM ANY OF THE ABOVE CATEGORIES JUST EXERCISE CAUTION IF THEY ARE IN THE OKAY CATEGORY AND DON'T TALK ABOUT THEM IF THEY ARE IN THE BAD CATEGORY.


Another note from the aforementioned @John Cracovizk thread. In fact, he says it better than I do so I will just copy and paste it here. Hopefully that is okay, John:

"From incels :incel: (people who are disgusted or bully you) to chads :chad: (envy and shit), sometimes people who have a dislike towards you may appear, it may be by reference or by remembering a behavior, look or even remembering another person who antagonized them at another time.

It's natural, and to deal with these people you need to have little contact as possible, stay away from those who don't like you for whatever reason, whether it's your fault or not it's always your responsibility to deal with it, your conflict is for the one who will gain the most social credit, the one who will gain the most validation from the group, leave your pride aside and remember: it is a war of morals not of pride.

It is better to be defeated personally than morally.
So, stay within the group's precepts, because everyone will think you did it right, everyone will pat you on the back and you won't lose social credit, the situation and the conflict are temporary, it's better that your antagonist emerge morally defeated with his pride intact than otherwise, but also remember not to let the mask dominate and you lose yourself to the point of allowing yourself to be humiliated and trampled to the point of not being worth the social credit.

There are moments that aren't worth it, if you impose yourself, you'll be trampled on and the group won't come to defend you, but in small conflicts that won't get physical, it's just a fight of pride, they're quite silly and nothing serious. Just be careful when it comes to a discussion with women, as they naturally already have high social credit in our society, and as a man you probably DEFINITELY have less than her, you will have to bite the bullet and don't challenge it, it's better to bite the bullet than end up imposing yourself and seeming the COWARD against a woman."

Very well written. It actually opened my eyes when I first read it.


Not gonna expand on this since I already said so much. All I'll say for this one is that most normfags and women do not think your 9/11 Hitler-Obama animal sodomy slave joke is funny.

Also NEVER don't brag about doing dumb things. Your oneitis doesn't think you're macho because you inject heroin for fun. In fact, many foids can get turned off by alcohol or cig use so be careful who you tell

Furthermore, if you brag about breaking the rules or getting away with something to someone else you’re putting yourself in a position where that person can potentially snitch on you.

This is what normies mean when they say "just be confident bro". They mean don't be weak.

Never reach out to normies and tell them about how you are lonely or can't make friends. Opening up to vicious normies is like dropping blood into shark-infested waters.

Furthermore, do not ever, EVER, make self-deprecating jokes or try to be clingy with people who clearly aren't interested in you. Don't ask them to hang out after they cancel on plans or say no to you more than 3 times in a row. Never joke about yourself in any capacity. No, you aren't self-aware, you're just a dance monkey. Also, don't be the class clown if you're in school. Those guys are usually bully victims and no girl goes "he's so hot :aheago:" even if they laugh at his gay jokes.

At this point, you are probably tired of all the reading, so imagine how much effort I put into writing it...

Okay, so I told you what you shouldn't do for the most part. Here is what you should do instead. You might be worried that you won't be funny or charismatic enough, but the good news is that you can still stand out as a "likable and popular guy" if you do these things:

1) "Pick a slayer you know IRL and then LARP as them." This is not my advice but I found that it works quite well. Here's the guy I got it from. (RIP User Vic Mackey):


Gotta fake it till you make it. Obviously don't pretend to be a 10/10 chad who gets laid every weekend because it looks like you're being fake and cocky, but be like "oh yeah I was talking to this girl" (don't mention names so it's harder to verify) which makes it seem like you're popular with the other gender and get around.

2) Unironically lift people up. Normies are incredibly vain and love complements. If you go for a compliment, start with something they did themselves, such as telling them "That shirt goes hard", "I like the way you did your hair", or "you're genuinely the funniest person I've met in a long time". If you know them for a while or are more intimate (i.e. rizzing up a girl) pick a non-erotic-body part. Example: You have really nice eyes. Bonus points if it's something they're obviously insecure about as it makes them feel even safer around you, e.g: "you have a beautiful nose Julia" (actually, she has a giant Jew nose and I secretly hope she gets a rhinoplasty asap).

3) Be funny. Being edgy or racist isn't funny. What IS funny are anecdotes. There are plenty of good videos on how to tell funny stories without being long or complex.

4) say good things about people behind their back. This one is so genius. I ONLY SAY good things about normies whenever they aren't around. If their friends overhear, even better. This will get back to them and they will think extremely highly of them.


General tips:

1) this mostly applies to normalfags and women, not guy friends you are incredibly close with. With my three best friends I use borderline .org humor and am incredibly edgy and obviously, they're not gonna say anything. However, if you aren't close to them err on the side of caution and follow this guide.

2) If it's funny on .org or incels.is , it's probably not funny IRL. Don't go around calling people recessed Dalits and joking about 5' 3" balding Indians. Never bring up the blackpill to women, EVER. This one is so hard for me jfl.

3) This should be your default setting when you don't know someone, but you should adapt as you find more info about them. If you find the group you're with to be slightly more one-way (i.e. finds Andrew Tate funny, feel free to say something about how smoking is cool or something).

4) don’t tell people your business unless you have to. Keep details to a minimum. Everyone must be on a need to know basis. That is how you properly look mysterious, not “muh walk around sulking like an edgelord”.

5) all normies follow this thread subconsciously, 100%. They all know this info in and out. They have an advantage compared to socially stunted dogs like us, so if you choose to ignore this don't come crying to me when you can't solve your "mentalceldom". Think about that when you write DNRD.

6) if you fuck up a little at first, it's okay. I know there are so many rules that it will be hard for the first month or so, but eventually, you should get the hang of it.

Threads referenced (repeated from above):




tagging people who actually show signs of brain activity: @Squirtle @pneumocystosis

shit i literally can't think of anyone else. Whoops.

Overall good thread things that y'all know but can't follow just like me I can't really open up or talk alot to new people or people I don't relate personally I will try my best now on
 
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Thread song (got the idea from @PseudoMaxxer ):


(At first, it may seem like the song is telling you to be yourself, but really I see it as Ava saying you should conform to whatever audience you're dealing with at the moment)

Salutations autists
.

I realize many of you guys don't know how to speak to ppl in general which is a massive problem. You see, personality might be a meme, but neurotypicality is not. You cannot come off as abrasive or hostile to normies, or else they will reject you. Normies are stupid but are necessary to climbing the social ladder.

This is a true story. I suffered so fucking much as a kid because I didn't understand basic social norms, as an only child Pajeet with immigrant parents. I still struggle a lot with not pissing off normies, so this guide is also for me as well as you. It can make the difference between a girl spending another hour with you, when you can rizz her up, or whether she packs up and leaves to get away from you.

Being NT isn't being a pushover/doormat/submissive to society. Rather, it's a preventative measure to ensure normies don't REJECT you. In other words, none of this will make you more likeable, rather it prevents you from being unlikeable. Basically what I'm trying to say is that if you're 2/10 truecel this guide won't magically make girls hop on your dick in the middle of the college library. Rather, it will prevent people from avoiding you in the college library. And yes, you will still have to interact with normies even if you are truecel whether for academically related reasons or other reasons. Besides, most people here are in the LTN-HTN range (I know that 99% of .org thinks they are HTN.)

Furthermore, many of your future male friends (that you need in order to be NT) will start off as normies as well until you get to know them better. Don't make the mistake of making them think you're weak.

Just to let you know, I have taken inspiration from three other threads which I will link in this thread but will cite whenever I borrow something from them.

TL;DR: There are certain things you cannot talk about with normies if you want them to accept you.

inb4 "muh chad can speak however he wants :soy: ." Yes, but YOU are not Chad.


This will be a common theme throughout this post so if you find yourself asking this when I tell you to do something, tell your brain to shut the fuck up and listen to me.



You need to swear a little, among peers and not authority figures like teachers or bosses of course.

If you never swear, you run the risk of being too "Mormon" and looking like a nerd:

View attachment 2662457

If you curse too much, you run the risk of looking edgy and immature, which is honestly worse. That doesn't fly by a lot of normies.

shadow the hedgehog GIF


I say the best ratio of swear words to other words should be like 1:150. Obviously don't count every time like a sperg but my point is just sprinkle "fuck" or "shit" like once. Don't call women "bitches" or "cunts". In fact, never use the word "retard", "faggot", "cunt", and especially not "nigga/nigger" (should go without saying). STAY AWAY FROM ALL SLURS. Also don't use swear words when talking about people, only inanimate things or occasionally, yourself.

Good: "Bruh I can't believe Professor Mike Mew gave us 10 pages of orthotropics homework. Dude, I don't know if I can go out to the bar tonight. I'm so fucked."

Bad: "Bruh Julia is such an ugly cunt and Bella is borderline retarded. I don't know how she got that job at Starbucks, that bitch."

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I am aware that your hoejabi Arab oneitis can't stop posting about "muh Palestine" but as a man you need to shut the fuck up about anything unless prompted to answer. For instance, if someone asks what you think about Da Joos vs Muzzies, the best answer to give is to deflect and say, "It's sad to think about how many innocent children have been killed on both sides. It's tragic really...". Do not ever, ever speak about religion or politicians unless prompted. Depending on who you speak you, you will have to follow the Overton Window.


This BOTB thread goes into far more detail than I do about the Overton Window, and honestly, it's the thread that inspired me to write this ULTIMATE thread.

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One more thing I want to touch on: LGBT rights. Despite what normies say, being gay is not widely accepted among normies, it's just that they tolerate it. So basically most "progressive" liberal women will be okay if you say you are fine with gay marriage but are not gay yourself. Like everything else mentioned, NEVER BRING IT UP unless prompted/necessary. Most "Christian" women don't like gay people.

Do you see a pattern here? Being balanced is the key, because most normies are balanced. They aren't special or strong in one particular thing, which makes them prone to disliking extremism.


This might take a bit of introspection and self-awareness which I struggled with for a long time. Don't be sarcastic or condescending to normfags. They don't like it when you talk down to them (despite their peanut brains mentally judging ugly incels 24/7 :feelskek:).

Think about why people on here don't like users like @anthony111553 and @moggathon ...it's because they started insulting people as soon as they registered, which pitted them against everyone at once. Social dynamics are everywhere, even on freakshow websites such as this.

Bullying anyone, even if it's a subhuman, never looks good. Just avoid it at all costs.

Occasionally, it's healthy to poke fun at a buddy or a girl you have a crush on in a group setting. Don't make fun of a flaw they can't control or something serious. NEVER EVER call a normie ugly. Go for something small, like an error in the way they recently comported themselves. Don't make an esoteric complex joke no one will understand, and don't mock multiple people at once because they can gang up on you and "ratio" you IRL.

On the flip side, this is why @Kamui and @Gengar can get away with insulting me sometimes. It's because they are relevant I "know" them (as well as you can know someone on a racist Indian forum), so I don't get super mad when they call me a Dalit or something.

Good joke: 2 weeks after getting to know Bella, I say "Bella is so clumsy. She spilled her water all over me haha." to her friend group.

Bad joke: 8 hours after knowing Julia and Bella, I say "Shut up, Julia, you ugly big-nosed recessed bitch :lul: :lul::lul:), it's over for you and Bella's flat maxilla. No wonder you will be a wageslave forever. It's OVER." At this point, I would be fucked, because I'm pitting my ugly ass against two white women who will tell me to shut up in front of a gaggle of normie freaks.

Girl after I knew her for an hour: are you allergic to pineapple? What if you smell it?

Me: it's not like I'm gonna fucking snort it, am I?

See how this can be offensive? I was clearly joking but even this subtle comment pissed her off and her hatred for me snowballed from there, leading to me getting fired from my job this summer.


You can still be funny in other ways. Just stick to TikTok humor. Reference memes and stuff from NT sources as well when necessary, just make sure they are POPULAR. No one will understand some gay nerdy joke from Skyrim mod #1049583, which leads me to my next point...



This used to be hard for me

In 8th grade, I told a girl I had a crush on that I was excited Star Wars Battlefront 2 was coming out, and she was like "wtf is that". Needless to say, I never pulled her.


Movies, Games, and Sports to talk about from most to least popular:

Good (most normies can relate)Okay (passable to mention a few times or with certain niches)Bad (don't ever bring up or catch people seeing you do this when they don't know you well)
Movies/TVStar Wars (main movies only), Marvel (Big movies only, like spider-man or Avengers Infinity War), Batman, Harry Potter, Twilight (women only), Euphoria, Breaking Bad, The Boys (men only), Invincible, Spongebob, Family Guy, Scream, Vampire Diaries (women only), Barbie Movie, any christopher nolan movie (men only), Disney movies/shows (with girls), FriendsThe Sopranos (sadly most women and young normies haven't seen), Boardwalk Empire, The Wire (outdated for Gen Z/Alpha), Attack on Titan, Death Note, Jujitsu Kaisen, Chainsaw man, Clueless, Young Sheldon (ironically)August Underground (if you know what this is you're fucked), slaughtered vomit dolls, or any other disgusting fetish gory movie. Nerd things like Battlestar Galactica or childish things like Transformers or My Little Pony are bad too. If you watch any of this shit and tell ppl about it IT'S OVER.
GamesFortnite, Minecraft, COD, Apex Legends, Halo, Mario Kart, Roblox (foids LOVE this game for some reason...)Cyberpunk, Fallout, Spider-Man PS4/5 Resident Evil (some girls love this game cuz of Leon), and the Red Dead Redemption series. Basically any popular story game as most women don't like these things.Baldur's Gate (a.k.a Dungeons and Dragons), Sonic, Skyrim, FNAF, or any esoteric title that no one has heard of
SportsFootball, Soccer, Weight Lifting, Basketball (very NT), swimmingBaseball, Running (either participating or watching), Horseracing
Curling, Water polo, anything else niche or gay
MusicThe Weeknd, Dua Lipa, Travis Scott, Taylor Swift, Drake, Lil Uzi Vert, One Direction,Marina and the Diamonds, Nirvana, Deftones, Cigarettes After Sex, Maneskin, my chemical romance (basically any alt music that emo whores listen to)Video game music (I don't care if I put it in a popular category above, absolutely do not let your girl find out you listen to the Halo soundtrack), Anime OSTs, Nickelback unironically. Will add more as I think of them in the shower...

REMINDER YOU CAN STILL ENJOY THINGS FROM ANY OF THE ABOVE CATEGORIES JUST EXERCISE CAUTION IF THEY ARE IN THE OKAY CATEGORY AND DON'T TALK ABOUT THEM IF THEY ARE IN THE BAD CATEGORY.


Another note from the aforementioned @John Cracovizk thread. In fact, he says it better than I do so I will just copy and paste it here. Hopefully that is okay, John:

"From incels :incel: (people who are disgusted or bully you) to chads :chad: (envy and shit), sometimes people who have a dislike towards you may appear, it may be by reference or by remembering a behavior, look or even remembering another person who antagonized them at another time.

It's natural, and to deal with these people you need to have little contact as possible, stay away from those who don't like you for whatever reason, whether it's your fault or not it's always your responsibility to deal with it, your conflict is for the one who will gain the most social credit, the one who will gain the most validation from the group, leave your pride aside and remember: it is a war of morals not of pride.

It is better to be defeated personally than morally.
So, stay within the group's precepts, because everyone will think you did it right, everyone will pat you on the back and you won't lose social credit, the situation and the conflict are temporary, it's better that your antagonist emerge morally defeated with his pride intact than otherwise, but also remember not to let the mask dominate and you lose yourself to the point of allowing yourself to be humiliated and trampled to the point of not being worth the social credit.

There are moments that aren't worth it, if you impose yourself, you'll be trampled on and the group won't come to defend you, but in small conflicts that won't get physical, it's just a fight of pride, they're quite silly and nothing serious. Just be careful when it comes to a discussion with women, as they naturally already have high social credit in our society, and as a man you probably DEFINITELY have less than her, you will have to bite the bullet and don't challenge it, it's better to bite the bullet than end up imposing yourself and seeming the COWARD against a woman."

Very well written. It actually opened my eyes when I first read it.


Not gonna expand on this since I already said so much. All I'll say for this one is that most normfags and women do not think your 9/11 Hitler-Obama animal sodomy slave joke is funny.

Also NEVER don't brag about doing dumb things. Your oneitis doesn't think you're macho because you inject heroin for fun. In fact, many foids can get turned off by alcohol or cig use so be careful who you tell

Furthermore, if you brag about breaking the rules or getting away with something to someone else you’re putting yourself in a position where that person can potentially snitch on you.

This is what normies mean when they say "just be confident bro". They mean don't be weak.

Never reach out to normies and tell them about how you are lonely or can't make friends. Opening up to vicious normies is like dropping blood into shark-infested waters.

Furthermore, do not ever, EVER, make self-deprecating jokes or try to be clingy with people who clearly aren't interested in you. Don't ask them to hang out after they cancel on plans or say no to you more than 3 times in a row. Never joke about yourself in any capacity. No, you aren't self-aware, you're just a dance monkey. Also, don't be the class clown if you're in school. Those guys are usually bully victims and no girl goes "he's so hot :aheago:" even if they laugh at his gay jokes.

At this point, you are probably tired of all the reading, so imagine how much effort I put into writing it...

Okay, so I told you what you shouldn't do for the most part. Here is what you should do instead. You might be worried that you won't be funny or charismatic enough, but the good news is that you can still stand out as a "likable and popular guy" if you do these things:

1) "Pick a slayer you know IRL and then LARP as them." This is not my advice but I found that it works quite well. Here's the guy I got it from. (RIP User Vic Mackey):


Gotta fake it till you make it. Obviously don't pretend to be a 10/10 chad who gets laid every weekend because it looks like you're being fake and cocky, but be like "oh yeah I was talking to this girl" (don't mention names so it's harder to verify) which makes it seem like you're popular with the other gender and get around.

2) Unironically lift people up. Normies are incredibly vain and love complements. If you go for a compliment, start with something they did themselves, such as telling them "That shirt goes hard", "I like the way you did your hair", or "you're genuinely the funniest person I've met in a long time". If you know them for a while or are more intimate (i.e. rizzing up a girl) pick a non-erotic-body part. Example: You have really nice eyes. Bonus points if it's something they're obviously insecure about as it makes them feel even safer around you, e.g: "you have a beautiful nose Julia" (actually, she has a giant Jew nose and I secretly hope she gets a rhinoplasty asap).

3) Be funny. Being edgy or racist isn't funny. What IS funny are anecdotes. There are plenty of good videos on how to tell funny stories without being long or complex.

4) say good things about people behind their back. This one is so genius. I ONLY SAY good things about normies whenever they aren't around. If their friends overhear, even better. This will get back to them and they will think extremely highly of them.


General tips:

1) this mostly applies to normalfags and women, not guy friends you are incredibly close with. With my three best friends I use borderline .org humor and am incredibly edgy and obviously, they're not gonna say anything. However, if you aren't close to them err on the side of caution and follow this guide.

2) If it's funny on .org or incels.is , it's probably not funny IRL. Don't go around calling people recessed Dalits and joking about 5' 3" balding Indians. Never bring up the blackpill to women, EVER. This one is so hard for me jfl.

3) This should be your default setting when you don't know someone, but you should adapt as you find more info about them. If you find the group you're with to be slightly more one-way (i.e. finds Andrew Tate funny, feel free to say something about how smoking is cool or something).

4) don’t tell people your business unless you have to. Keep details to a minimum. Everyone must be on a need to know basis. That is how you properly look mysterious, not “muh walk around sulking like an edgelord”.

5) all normies follow this thread subconsciously, 100%. They all know this info in and out. They have an advantage compared to socially stunted dogs like us, so if you choose to ignore this don't come crying to me when you can't solve your "mentalceldom". Think about that when you write DNRD.

6) if you fuck up a little at first, it's okay. I know there are so many rules that it will be hard for the first month or so, but eventually, you should get the hang of it.

Threads referenced (repeated from above):




tagging people who actually show signs of brain activity: @Squirtle @pneumocystosis

shit i literally can't think of anyone else. Whoops.

literally just be chad and you can say anything. even as someone who isn’t full on chad i say the most sexist jokes to women and they laugh. NTpill is water
 
no point living as subchad
 
+i’m living proof you don’t have to be chad to be non NT and still be fine
 
already over for u if u need to read a word of this post
 
Never bring up the blackpill to women, EVER
This shit is so real, I said all that counts is the personality is to several girls I know and they think I'm a genuinely good guy and most importantly NT.
 
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good thread tbh, being NT is very important not only to establish social ties, but also to communicate effectively when you have to meet your plastic surgeon, good communication is the key to good results
 
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Dnr apart from Spoiler: 6. Don't be edgy racist/offensive/etc

Jokes on you gen z is unironically becoming increasingly more racist, especially foidz LMAO (at least the ones I know). They're done with all the alphabet people and niggers invading their countries. Niggers and asylum seekers get preferential treatment here. Most of them get permanent residence within a year and are prioritized when it comes to getting a home, which has resulted in housing prices going through the roof here and living becoming unaffordable for the natives.
 
all normies follow this thread subconsciously, 100%.
Well I guess I'm a Normie, incredible if there are people that need to be told to not use racist humor among other people.
 
Well I guess I'm a Normie, incredible if there are people that need to be told to not use racist humor among other people.
i didn't know for the longest time jfl. I would openly be offensive and racist in front of women as a kid
 
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BOTB thread
 
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Great guide!
 
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