There is simply no point in trying if you don't ascend to HTN first

[Clown Show]

If you try to date as a sub HTN, you are in a world of pain. Casual sex is basically a foreign realm for ltn-mtn, you will experience so many rejections, cuckoldry, humiliation that you will only further ruin your mental health. As a ltn-mtn, your only option is to get into a relationshit and if you, god forbid, get into one, you will get absolutely tortured.

I as a ltn, have had few zero result, pathetic dates in a last year only to get absolutely cucked by a guy who is slightly better looking and taller. Foids literally rejected me for some "reasons" only to remove those reasons for the next guy, I swEaR my little city should be thankful that I didn't go ER on all of them.

If you are blackpilled ltn-mtn, just stop torturing yourself with dating and ascend to HTN first. HTN is the level when foids actively show interest in you.

 

[Yliaster]

sounds similar to the thread @SecularIslamist made recently

Spoiler

https://looksmax.org/threads/trucel...l-differences-from-womens-perspective.872057/

 

[Numb]

water, you knew it was going to happen and still did it

 

[cytoplasm]

How do you get dates in the first place

 

[Clown Show]

Also I want to add that I mog idiots that cuck me in absolutely everything other than looks. Normscum would be taller than me and have slightly better face, but height is the most deciding factor when foid is in process of cucking me, even though I can probably beat her and tallfag together at the same time.

You can't compensate as a LTN.

 

[Unknown21]

Homie, you got to go to dates and didn't get laid? That sounds like a skill issue

 

[Clown Show]

How do you get dates in the first place

By cold approaching once in a blue moon when perfect opportunity arises and getting a foid's social. Foid might show some pathetic "interest" at first, she would agree on a date where she would act asexual, after the date she would tell me that "it would be better to keep a professional relationship" only to hook up literally few days after with someone else who is also her colleague.

 

[Clown Show]

Homie, you got to go to dates and didn't get laid? That sounds like a skill issue

There is no "skill". If a foid is attracted to you, she will show enthusiasm on a date and flirt with you on her own which makes it easy for you to escalate. As a LTN, foids are literally asexual on dates.

Don't bring redpill/bluepill bullshit into my thread you greycel.

 

[the BULL]

.org users must practice some black magic shit. just completely change your face bro, just ascend to HTN. JFL.

 

[Yliaster]

Also I want to add that I mog idiots that cuck me in absolutely everything other than looks. Normscum would be taller than me and have slightly better face, but height is the most deciding factor when foid is in process of cucking me, even though I can probably beat her and tallfag together at the same time.

You can't compensate as a LTN.

you are prob being harsh on yourself based on org's warped standards for men

pm face I will give you constructive feedback

 

[Clown Show]

.org users must practice some black magic shit. just completely change your face bro, just ascend to HTN. JFL.

Usually, leanmaxxing, blasting accutane, hairfrauding to the max and maybe some fillers can bring one to HTN or close to HTN if he is not a subhuman.

 

[standardcel]

im chadlite and get dumped for ltn. Young girls don’t want to settle they want to whore around with all kind of guys

 

[Clown Show]

im chadlite and get dumped for ltn. Young girls don’t want to settle they want to whore around with all kind of guys

Never project image that you are for serious relationship. 100% of young women have told me that they first want to "experience life" before settling down. They have been utterly brainwashed, every single one of them, and they think that men will put up with their whoring forever. At the moment, sadly, men are putting up with everything...

 

[the BULL]

Never project image that you are for serious relationship. 100% of young women have told me that they first want to "experience life" before settling down. They have been utterly brainwashed, every single one of them, and they think that men will put up with their whoring forever. At the moment, sadly, men are putting up with everything...

men are just straight inferior. when i meet with my friends, they all act like supreme cucks, and i have to beat em up every single time. it gets tiring bro

 

[Copeful]

.
. HTN is the level when foids actively show interest in you.

what does that look like
iois or cold approaches or what

 

[Lefty Rankin]

If you try to date as a sub HTN, you are in a world of pain. Casual sex is basically a foreign realm for ltn-mtn, you will experience so many rejections, cuckoldry, humiliation that you will only further ruin your mental health. As a ltn-mtn, your only option is to get into a relationshit and if you, god forbid, get into one, you will get absolutely tortured.

I as a ltn, have had few zero result, pathetic dates in a last year only to get absolutely cucked by a guy who is slightly better looking and taller. Foids literally rejected me for some "reasons" only to remove those reasons for the next guy, I swEaR my little city should be thankful that I didn't go ER on all of them.

If you are blackpilled ltn-mtn, just stop torturing yourself with dating and ascend to HTN first. HTN is the level when foids actively show interest in you.

Start wearing tighter clothes. Start wearing booty shorts. Dudes will start showing you keener interest.

 

[Kamui]

im chadlite and get dumped for ltn. Young girls don’t want to settle they want to whore around with all kind of guys

Chadlite in the slums of Tamil Nadu probably

 

[Unknown21]

There is no "skill". If a foid is attracted to you, she will show enthusiasm on a date and flirt with you on her own which makes it easy for you to escalate. As a LTN, foids are literally asexual on dates.

Don't bring redpill/bluepill bullshit into my thread you greycel.

Homie, you went on dates. They were attracted to you. Maybe you were to much of a pussy to take the initiative and that disappointed them

 

[Clown Show]

Homie, you went on dates. They were attracted to you. Maybe you were to much of a pussy to take the initiative and that disappointed them

Random faggot GrAYcel's opinion completely dismissed and obliterated.

 

[Deleted member 1140]

as a mtn/ltn u should max out your smv with roids/tats/hair/tanning. many facial ugly people get girls because of everything else they got

 

[Unknown21]

Random faggot GrAYcel's opinion completely dismissed and obliterated.

Keep coping. You're not an incel. Just a guy that don't know how to make the woman want to have with you. I'm sorry to tell, but you look more like a failed normie

 

[Clown Show]

as a mtn/ltn u should max out your smv with roids/tats/hair/tanning. many facial ugly people get girls because of everything else they got

Roids, tats are basically you ruining your body.

Hairfrauding is legit which I will do.
Skinmaxxing is also great for mtn.
Leanmaxxing and some fillers here and there can potentially bring me to strong MTN - lower HTN.

 

[Clown Show]

Keep coping. You're not an incel. Just a guy that don't know how to make the woman want to have with you. I'm sorry to tell, but you look more like a failed normie

You know nothing about me, you can leave my thread.

 

[Deleted member 1140]

Roids, tats are basically you ruining your body.

Hairfrauding is legit which I will do.
Skinmaxxing is also great for mtn.
Leanmaxxing and some fillers here and there can potentially bring me to strong MTN - lower HTN.

believe what u want. im an oldcel who goes to the gym for soon 10 years and see ugly roided freaks get good pussy

 

[Clown Show]

believe what u want. im an oldcel who goes to the gym for soon 10 years and see ugly roided freaks get good pussy

If you want to utterly destroy your hormones and age your body for some low class slut who is also probably destroying her body in the gym then go for it.

In the end, nothing can beat height and face, better spend time and money improving your face which will benefit your dating the most, and not only dating but your life in general.

 

[Unknown21]

You know nothing about me, you can leave my thread.

I know you have had dates, that's enough for me, fakecel jfl

 

[Deleted member 1140]

If you want to utterly destroy your hormones and age your body for some low class slut who is also probably destroying her body in the gym then go for it.

In the end, nothing can beat height and face, better spend time and money improving your face which will benefit your dating the most, and not only dating but your life in general.

theres a limit to improving your face. most surgeries barely improve faces and softmaxing should be mandority anyways

 

[Clown Show]

I know you have had dates, that's enough for me, fakecel jfl

I've never had unpaid sex with a woman.

 

[Unknown21]

I've never had unpaid sex with a woman.

Because you don't know how to speak with them. You literally had dates

 

[Clown Show]

theres a limit to improving your face. most surgeries barely improve faces and softmaxing should be mandority anyways

Yes there is a limit to improving your face but that is the only thing that will make you more attractive as a man besides having height.

There is also a limit for your body, but foids don't care about the body that much.

I have experience with gymcelling. I gymcelled for quite some time and I have above average physique, I have very wide shoulders and lats, it did absolutely nothing in terms of attracting foids. They see my ltn face with bad skin, they see my balding hair, I don't have height to compensate for it and it's over.

 

[Clown Show]

Because you don't know how to speak with them. You literally had dates

I will no longer engage you, go kill yourself.

 

[NewOneXY]

Tall normies, means 5/10 face and 6'1 height, can easily date hundreds of beckys.

 

[negativetiltedheart]

Vh

 

[autistic_tendencies]

Be more dark triad and low inhibition

 

[negativetiltedheart]

Yes there is a limit to improving your face but that is the only thing that will make you more attractive as a man besides having height.

There is also a limit for your body, but foids don't care about the body that much.

I have experience with gymcelling. I gymcelled for quite some time and I have above average physique, I have very wide shoulders and lats, it did absolutely nothing in terms of attracting foids. They see my ltn face with bad skin, they see my balding hair, I don't have height to compensate for it and it's over.

I have tried to tell this to many user here but they think Im coping. Girls give mostly fuck about face because thats is the Main attraction point. Height will decrease u attraction but not near as much as face do. Gymmaxed body is only small upgrade. Many sex symbols like michael jackson, river phoenix, kurt cobain, DiCaprion, johnny dep where lean ass fuck instead of shredded. They did not have big frame or large muscles.. they were more popular as this days super hero actors.

 

[Unknown21]

I will no longer engage you, go kill yourself.

Ok then, good luck having more dates and not sleeping with any woman because you don't know how to speak to them.
Just don't come here acting like you're the biggest incel of the planet

 

[Clown Show]

Be more dark triad and low inhibition

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[Alt Number 3]

By cold approaching once in a blue moon when perfect opportunity arises and getting a foid's social. Foid might show some pathetic "interest" at first, she would agree on a date where she would act asexual, after the date she would tell me that "it would be better to keep a professional relationship" only to hook up literally few days after with someone else who is also her colleague.
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did that actually happen bro?? she wanted to keep it professional with u but fucked another coworker??

 

[forevergymcelling]

Everything you said is legit

Dating as a normie or below must be hell on earth

You have to be a fucking idiot to enter a LTR as an average looking man

I made a similar thread on lookism, but it looks like many of you faggots need to hear this here. I've seen far too many average looking cuckolds crying on this forum day in, day out about their lack of gfs. Listen up and listen good How can you expect to look like this and think any girl is...

looksmax.org

 

[Clown Show]

did that actually happen bro?? she wanted to keep it professional with u but fucked another coworker??

Happened already two times from two different foids. I mog those idiots in everything except height, they have full head of hair and slightly better faces and they were lower class and I explained why high class is falio:
Thread 'Being high class is a falio' https://looksmax.org/threads/being-high-class-is-a-falio.875584/

Everything is predetermined

 

[Clown Show]

did that actually happen bro?? she wanted to keep it professional with u but fucked another coworker??

I am on a brink of ER.

I had an incel rage and called one of the foids hypocrite over text messages.

 

[Clown Show]

what does that look like
iois or cold approaches or what

Iois, cold approaches and instagram dms, all initiated by foids.

 

[the next o'pry]

If you try to date as a sub HTN, you are in a world of pain. Casual sex is basically a foreign realm for ltn-mtn, you will experience so many rejections, cuckoldry, humiliation that you will only further ruin your mental health. As a ltn-mtn, your only option is to get into a relationshit and if you, god forbid, get into one, you will get absolutely tortured.

I as a ltn, have had few zero result, pathetic dates in a last year only to get absolutely cucked by a guy who is slightly better looking and taller. Foids literally rejected me for some "reasons" only to remove those reasons for the next guy, I swEaR my little city should be thankful that I didn't go ER on all of them.

If you are blackpilled ltn-mtn, just stop torturing yourself with dating and ascend to HTN first. HTN is the level when foids actively show interest in you.

I agree in parts, HTN is enough if you're looking at the face only, but a HTN still needs to compensate with other attributes (+decent finances, decent height, decent body, decent penis size, etc.)

Another thing to consider is a HTN will never get treated in an ideal way unless he's the girl's type or is well above average in other aspects (height, status, money, personality, socially dominant). Unironically, you'll only get treated as the prize if you're Chadlite and above, period like this.

This woman's profile on tiktok is based on showing off her husband

looksmax.org

good thread man, can relate.

 

[LipstickAlley]

If you try to date as a sub HTN, you are in a world of pain. Casual sex is basically a foreign realm for ltn-mtn, you will experience so many rejections, cuckoldry, humiliation that you will only further ruin your mental health. As a ltn-mtn, your only option is to get into a relationshit and if you, god forbid, get into one, you will get absolutely tortured.

I as a ltn, have had few zero result, pathetic dates in a last year only to get absolutely cucked by a guy who is slightly better looking and taller. Foids literally rejected me for some "reasons" only to remove those reasons for the next guy, I swEaR my little city should be thankful that I didn't go ER on all of them.

If you are blackpilled ltn-mtn, just stop torturing yourself with dating and ascend to HTN first. HTN is the level when foids actively show interest in you.

why are you fools all mocking him? He's correct

 

[Deleted member 7580]

Buddy I swear majority of zoomer white and Asian girls I see are with skinny fat Indians