Vitamin D = Bonemass?

[jxcob.79]

Well obviously, I know there's other factors like genetics but as a teenager (15), is taking let's say 3,000IU's (maybe 2 if 3 is too much) beneficial for an increase in bonemass? That being zygos, maybe my chin. I know vitamin d helps with muscle building and bone health/growth, something to do with calcium.

Would it be of good use for a teenager? I already get enough sun exposure, but i was thinking to up it. I take as much vitamins everyday as I can get my hands on, c & d through pills and the rest of the alphabet through food.

 

[FiendFiend]

Well obviously, I know there's other factors like genetics but as a teenager (15), is taking let's say 3,000IU's (maybe 2 if 3 is too much) beneficial for an increase in bonemass? That being zygos, maybe my chin. I know vitamin d helps with muscle building and bone health/growth, something to do with calcium.

Would it be of good use for a teenager? I already get enough sun exposure, but i was thinking to up it. I take as much vitamins everyday as I can get my hands on, c & d through pills and the rest of the alphabet through food.

yup it is, i grew bonemass on it, do it.

 

[jxcob.79]

yup it is, i grew bonemass on it, do it.

is it noticeable? or is it just minor

and thanks

 

[FiendFiend]

is it noticeable? or is it just minor

and thanks

over months i legit never touched grass and supplemented vitamin d yeah its essential for bone growth

 

[Rome4]

 

[Eat My Dust]

Yeah, its better then hgh, pth analogs, and genetics

 

[jxcob.79]

Yeah, its better then hgh, pth analogs, and genetics

I smell sarcasm

 

[TheTD7]

yeah vitamin d promotes osteoblast differentiation, but once your blood 25(OH)D level reaches 30-50 ng/mL (75-125 nmol/L), your bones and calcium levels are already optimized. above that there's not much difference.


if theres a deficiency (<20 ng/mL), you can see improved bone mineral density when supplemented w 600-2K IU/day.

sufficient levels (>30 ng/dL) = no further improvement in BMD/growth.

your facial bone growth is genetically regulated by hGH, IGF-1, T, nutrition (protein, calcium, phosphorus etc). So beyond correcting deficiency, vit d supplementation doesn't do much.

 

[Aryan Incel]

Well obviously, I know there's other factors like genetics but as a teenager (15), is taking let's say 3,000IU's (maybe 2 if 3 is too much) beneficial for an increase in bonemass? That being zygos, maybe my chin. I know vitamin d helps with muscle building and bone health/growth, something to do with calcium.

Would it be of good use for a teenager? I already get enough sun exposure, but i was thinking to up it. I take as much vitamins everyday as I can get my hands on, c & d through pills and the rest of the alphabet through food.

Nope

 

[jxcob.79]

yeah vitamin d promotes osteoblast differentiation, but once your blood 25(OH)D level reaches 30-50 ng/mL (75-125 nmol/L), your bones and calcium levels are already optimized. above that there's not much difference.


if theres a deficiency (<20 ng/mL), you can see improved bone mineral density when supplemented w 600-2K IU/day.

sufficient levels (>30 ng/dL) = no further improvement in BMD/growth.

your facial bone growth is genetically regulated by hGH, IGF-1, T, nutrition (protein, calcium, phosphorus etc). So beyond correcting deficiency, vit d supplementation doesn't do much.

I see, thanks. So if im a teenager, who already produces lots of hgh, I do things that obviously optimize and increase testosterone and consume calcium (like I don't know, eggshell powder) with vitamin d supplements I should see a great increase in bonemass? Also how does igf-1 signaling and that stuff work?

 

[theübermenschboy]

You say you get sunexposure?
Then depending upon your phototype and the UV levels in your geography you most probably don’t need VIT D supps.
Also the Cholecalciferol(D3) produced by sunlight exposure is far superior to synthetic Cholecalciferol as it is sulfated and supps aren’t .
I am pretty sure no room rotting nugget here will tell you this. Best is to get sunexposure at 12 at noon . Thank me later !

 

[powerliftercoco]

Holy gray holy grey holy grei

 

[rotation]

Well obviously, I know there's other factors like genetics but as a teenager (15), is taking let's say 3,000IU's (maybe 2 if 3 is too much) beneficial for an increase in bonemass? That being zygos, maybe my chin. I know vitamin d helps with muscle building and bone health/growth, something to do with calcium.

Would it be of good use for a teenager? I already get enough sun exposure, but i was thinking to up it. I take as much vitamins everyday as I can get my hands on, c & d through pills and the rest of the alphabet through food.

no way this was the nigga hating on me in my thread

 

[TheTD7]

I see, thanks. So if im a teenager, who already produces lots of hgh, I do things that obviously optimize and increase testosterone and consume calcium (like I don't know, eggshell powder) with vitamin d supplements I should see a great increase in bonemass? Also how does igf-1 signaling and that stuff work?

at your age, your bones are already in their peak anabolic phase. If your GH, calcium, testosterone levels are in good range, your skeleton is functioning at maximum physiological capacity.
Extra calcium/vit d beyond what your body needs won't make your bones denser/larger (bone formation becomes substrate-saturated). But it's better to max out everything that's in your control (obv).

and the IGF-1 signaling -
1. GH binds to GH receptors (GHR) on liver cells.
2. This leads to JAK2-STAT5 signaling, which then leads to igf-1 synthesis.
3. igf-1 enters circulation and binds to IGF1R on: i) growth plate chondrocytes (height increase), ii) osteoblasts (increased bone matrix formation), iii) myocytes (muscle hypertrophy)
4. igf-1 activates PI3K-Akt and MAPK pathways which stimulates protein synthesis, dna replication blah blah blah
5. igf-1 also inhibits apoptosis of osteoblasts which prolongs growth activity.

 

[jxcob.79]

at your age, your bones are already in their peak anabolic phase. If your GH, calcium, testosterone levels are in good range, your skeleton is functioning at maximum physiological capacity.
Extra calcium/vit d beyond what your body needs won't make your bones denser/larger (bone formation becomes substrate-saturated). But it's better to max out everything that's in your control (obv).

and the IGF-1 signaling -
1. GH binds to GH receptors (GHR) on liver cells.
2. This leads to JAK2-STAT5 signaling, which then leads to igf-1 synthesis.
3. igf-1 enters circulation and binds to IGF1R on: i) growth plate chondrocytes (height increase), ii) osteoblasts (increased bone matrix formation), iii) myocytes (muscle hypertrophy)
4. igf-1 activates PI3K-Akt and MAPK pathways which stimulates protein synthesis, dna replication blah blah blah
5. igf-1 also inhibits apoptosis of osteoblasts which prolongs growth activity.

thanks brotha, im mirin the intelligence

I wanna be like you when i grow up

 

[jxcob.79]

no way this was the nigga hating on me in my thread

yes im hating on you, you're doing test at 14 you absolute iqlet

you're literally producing so much natural test nigga and you're still doing trt, unless you're a transgender fag who wants to be a guy I don't see why you're doing this

 

[cursedpaki19]

Well obviously, I know there's other factors like genetics but as a teenager (15), is taking let's say 3,000IU's (maybe 2 if 3 is too much) beneficial for an increase in bonemass? That being zygos, maybe my chin. I know vitamin d helps with muscle building and bone health/growth, something to do with calcium.

Would it be of good use for a teenager? I already get enough sun exposure, but i was thinking to up it. I take as much vitamins everyday as I can get my hands on, c & d through pills and the rest of the alphabet through food.

Doesnt necessarily grow your bones a lot but without it you can’t expect your bones to grow. High amounts of calcium and vitamin D is bare minimum if you want bone growth

 

[jxcob.79]

Doesnt necessarily grow your bones a lot but without it you can’t expect your bones to grow. High amounts of calcium and vitamin D is bare minimum if you want bone growth

Yeah, just making sure supplementing vitamin d isn't useless in any way. I already get sun exposure but I don't think it feels as *sure* as taking 2 pills and knowing that's like 2000 iu

 

[slaters]

Well it sure as hell won’t make u lose bonemass so y not

 

[jxcob.79]

Well it sure as hell won’t make u lose bonemass so y not

that's the spirit

 

[rotation]

yes im hating on you, you're doing test at 14 you absolute iqlet

you're literally producing so much natural test nigga and you're still doing trt, unless you're a transgender fag who wants to be a guy I don't see why you're doing this

15* and 350-400mg of testosterone is not trt, you obviously don’t understand how it works - and yes I know it’s retarded and hate is correct, but never hate if you are a retard yourself, even if i deserve it

 

[jxcob.79]

15* and 350-400mg of testosterone is not trt, you obviously don’t understand how it works - and yes I know it’s retarded and hate is correct, but never hate if you are a retard yourself, even if i deserve it

no we're both retarded, im asking if vitamin d which absorbs fucking calcium which obviously supports bone growth increases bonemass, and you're doing trt at 15

i suppose were equals amigo

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Well obviously, I know there's other factors like genetics but as a teenager (15), is taking let's say 3,000IU's (maybe 2 if 3 is too much) beneficial for an increase in bonemass? That being zygos, maybe my chin. I know vitamin d helps with muscle building and bone health/growth, something to do with calcium.

Would it be of good use for a teenager? I already get enough sun exposure, but i was thinking to up it. I take as much vitamins everyday as I can get my hands on, c & d through pills and the rest of the alphabet through food.

Fuck no nigga you wont even grow bones on peptides let alone Vitamin D JFL

 

[jxcob.79]

Fuck no nigga you wont even grow bones on peptides let alone Vitamin D JFL

fair enough tbh

 

[beckyslayer191]

Well obviously, I know there's other factors like genetics but as a teenager (15), is taking let's say 3,000IU's (maybe 2 if 3 is too much) beneficial for an increase in bonemass? That being zygos, maybe my chin. I know vitamin d helps with muscle building and bone health/growth, something to do with calcium.

Would it be of good use for a teenager? I already get enough sun exposure, but i was thinking to up it. I take as much vitamins everyday as I can get my hands on, c & d through pills and the rest of the alphabet through food.

Mogs and will ascend u

 

[sub5incel6741]

Well obviously, I know there's other factors like genetics but as a teenager (15), is taking let's say 3,000IU's (maybe 2 if 3 is too much) beneficial for an increase in bonemass? That being zygos, maybe my chin. I know vitamin d helps with muscle building and bone health/growth, something to do with calcium.

Would it be of good use for a teenager? I already get enough sun exposure, but i was thinking to up it. I take as much vitamins everyday as I can get my hands on, c & d through pills and the rest of the alphabet through food.

Vitamin D only helps with making the bones, if you want to increase bone mass try taking vitamin D with calcium and going on a high protein diet

 

[gigacumster3000]

i've done some research on vitamin d and bone growth in teens myself. it does seem to play a role in calcium absorption and overall bone health, which is definitely important for facial structure development during puberty.