What creates a "chimp" look & examples

[Deleted member 5891]

Many people criticize because bimax supposedly create the infamous "chimp" look
From my understanding in which the upper maxilla lacks forwards growth compared to the newly forward brought mandible.

Do you have examples between a chimp look and a normal side profile?
Preferably on the same person so the difference is much more visible?

Implants should be able to counter this problem right

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[goat2x]

alveolar ridge and teeth sticks out to oblivion

 

[Looksmax305]

it’s caused by mouth area being to forward grown

 

[Deleted member 11406]

Long philtrum and thin lips

 

[randomuser2407]

It's a racist idea. Most black people have bigger lips and they are going to have that look no matter what.

 

[MedMaxxing]

You would be wrong in the first point. That just makes the upper midface look flatter from profile (doesn't do anything frontally). Chimp look comes from too much maxillary protrusion (aka more advancement than needed). Ideally there should be a balance between maxillary projection (mainly the lip area) and mandibular projection but for most backgrounds the chin and mandible being slightly more forward (not enough to be an underbite though).

 

[Deleted member 9344]

'Chimp' look is caused by excessive prognathous jaws. The ideal side profile should fall behind the E-Plane: https://looksmax.org/threads/e-plane-forward-growth.233309/

 

[Deleted member 4797]

You avoid this by doing less than 5mm upper jaw advancement, 4mm is enough for 99% of people without severe underbites, and will give enough anteface without ruining your philtrum shape.

LF1 that has been advanced too much gives chimp lip, because it makes the middle part of the philtrum project more than the upper lip and nostril area, making philtrum from side profile convex as opposed to concave.

 

[InnsmouthLook]

It's most common in sleep apneacels who get bimax with a ton of forward movement.

 

[GetShrekt]

Recessed upper midface + protruding mouth area. Although a lot of people just mistake it for big lips

 

[GetShrekt]

 

[Deleted member 6128]

Flat upper maxilla protruding lower maxilla and recessed chin

 

[GetShrekt]

Flat upper maxilla protruding lower maxilla and recessed chin

Chin is cope. It’s more the long ass Philtrum + mouth

 

[Deleted member 5891]

Recessed upper midface

How does a recessed upper midface look like?

 

[Deleted member 5891]

Flat upper maxilla

Examples please?

 

[GetShrekt]

How does a recessed upper midface look like?

Usually , bad under eye support is indicative of it, bulging eyes etc.

Also the ‘before’ on this cheekbone augmentation

 

[tyronelite]

Just look at my side profile. I have one of the worst midface recessions

 

[MedMaxxing]

Just look at my side profile. I have one of the worst midface recessions

Bad infraorbitals?

 

[oatmeal]

How does a recessed upper midface look like?

flat zygos, recessed infraorbitals, tear troughs, negative orbital vector, shallow set eyes.

some of this is dictated by your frontal bone as well (you can have deep set eyes with negative orbital vector, for example) or genes (look at zygomatic breadth in Asians, or forward protrusion as well, or recessed infraorbitals in Indians)

 

[oatmeal]

Implants should be able to counter this problem right

You avoid this by doing less than 5mm upper jaw advancement, 4mm is enough for 99% of people without severe underbites, and will give enough anteface without ruining your philtrum shape.

LF1 that has been advanced too much gives chimp lip, because it makes the middle part of the philtrum project more than the upper lip and nostril area, making philtrum from side profile convex as opposed to concave.

yes.

but even then if you don't end up with a chimp side profile, it will still benefit to get infraorbital rim implants so the maxilla has a harmonious look where it all seems to have been brought forward.

 

[tyronelite]

Bad infraorbitals?

Yeah pretty much my upper maxilla. I have X-Rays and it makes it look like I have an underbite

 

[tyronelite]

@MedMaxxing @oatmeal

 

[goat2x]

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@MedMaxxing @oatmeal

despite your midface being recessed i dont think you would fit into the chimp look that much

 

[goat2x]

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look at this shit

[Rate]Pics of how I'd look if I kiss a girl

This is chico kissing a girl. I don't know how those facial bone structure can make him still look good on kissing position. Cause you'd generally would stick your lips out and make your jaw more pronounced. Compare with my pics. I'm aware that the existence of jaw would make your kissing face...

looksmax.org

 

[MedMaxxing]

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You do not have the "chimp" profile. Your maxillary protrusion is fine. Also, infraorbital implants or undereye far grafts would ascend your profile hard. I am assuming the second picture is a morph of CCW?

 

[tyronelite]

You do not have the "chimp" profile. Your maxillary protrusion is fine. Also, infraorbital implants or undereye far grafts would ascend your profile hard. I am assuming the second picture is a morph of CCW?

Yes. the before pic is also a morph, my nose was moved ahead of my lips. My lips and chin protrude farther than my nose.

 

[MedMaxxing]

Yes. the before pic is also a morph, my nose was moved ahead of my lips. My lips and chin protrude farther than my nose.

You have potential my friend. Good mandible length. You have a pretty easy path to ascension.

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

paranasal implants can in most cases fix the problem.

 

[GetShrekt]

despite your midface being recessed i dont think you would fit into the chimp look that much

I mog his side hard, yet his front mogs me into suicide. Side profile is just cope @tyronelite confirm pls.

 

[Mr.cope]

It's a racist idea. Most black people have bigger lips and they are going to have that look no matter what.

hes talking about bimax results

 

[Mr.cope]

It's a racist idea. Most black people have bigger lips and they are going to have that look no matter what.

you can not look like chimp with big lips bro
its the teeth protrusion and maxilla angle that causes the chimp look

 

[tyronelite]

I mog his side hard, yet his front mogs me into suicide. Side profile is just cope @tyronelite confirm pls.

Its true. Side is cope for slaying or looking good. But for aesthetics, self validation I'd rather improve it.

 

[Deleted member 5891]

Its true. Side is cope for slaying or looking good. But for aesthetics, self validation I'd rather improve it.

nigga why do you have your insta in your signature

 

[tyronelite]

nigga why do you have your insta in your signature

So y'all can watch me shine when I make it

 

[lasthope]

So y'all can watch me shine when I make it

Mirin low inhibition
Niggas here are afraid being doxxed by posting their eye area and you just straight give your insta

 

[Deleted member 2748]

chimp mouth Is what happens when people with 0 orbital and browridge/nasal projection think they're gonna look better by moving their mouth forward

 

[AscendingHero]

alveolar ridge and teeth sticks out to oblivion

How does one fix that shit?

 

[goat2x]

How does one fix that shit?

teeth shaving,expansion, jaw surgery, bands w braces, pulling out teeth

just a few fixes (not every on of them will be beneficial overall)

 

[AscendingHero]

teeth shaving,expansion, jaw surgery, bands w braces, pulling out teeth

just a few fixes (not every on of them will be beneficial overall)

Can Palatal Expansion+ Invisalign fix this?

Also regarding bands can't that shit fuck up ur aesthetics?

 

[goat2x]

Can Palatal Expansion+ Invisalign fix this?

Also regarding bands can't that shit fuck up ur aesthetics?

Probably wont pull back the ridges tbh

mike mew said it does but its been one year that ive had my braces removed and my ridges didnt move back at all despite perfect mouth posture



it can, not neceserrarily will, especially if your ridges are extreme

 

[AscendingHero]

Probably wont pull back the ridges tbh

mike mew said it does but its been one year that ive had my braces removed and my ridges didnt move back at all despite perfect mouth posture



it can, not neceserrarily will, especially if your ridges are extreme

Age?

Can you show me where Mike Mew said this

 

[AscendingHero]

@Chintuck22 Imagine going through my posting history to give me a WTF reaction, jfl

 

[goat2x]

Age?

Can you show me where Mike Mew said this

19

if you just search mike mew lips you will get few results

 

[AscendingHero]

19

if you just search mike mew lips you will get few results

No bro I meant to ask where he said that braces can pull back the alveolar ridges

I've seen most of his lip videos

 

[goat2x]

No bro I meant to ask where he said that braces can pull back the alveolar ridges

I've seen most of his lip videos

thats what i said and its not braces its braces + bands or IPR or and bands

 

[AscendingHero]

thats what i said and its not braces its braces + bands or IPR or and bands

What's IPR?

 

[goat2x]

What's IPR?

interproximal reduction

i had it twice that helped actually

 

[AscendingHero]

interproximal reduction

i had it twice that helped actually

What does that shit do? If someone is young enough can Palatal Expansion+Bands+IPR fix a fucked alveolar ridge?

Are there any surgeries that help with this shit?

 

[goat2x]

What does that shit do? If someone is young enough can Palatal Expansion+Bands+IPR fix a fucked alveolar ridge?

Are there any surgeries that help with this shit?

reduces horiztan teeth size, probably yes.


yes, lefort 1, imdo, bsso

 

[AscendingHero]

reduces horiztan teeth size, probably yes.


yes, lefort 1, imdo, bsso

Why would someone want to reduce teeth width horizontally?

IMDO is for the lower jaw right, how could that fix my alveolar ridge? Also is IMDO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BSSO?