what is a good natty T Level?

[.👽.]

what is the acceptable minimum and what is considered normal, high? from a blackpilled perspective. got my blood work and doc said everything is normal

@loox
@CupOfCoffee
@SteveRogers

 

[hebbewem]

3000

 

[DesperadoRatado]

you can get to 1200 natty and could maintain 900 almost all year around

 

[Jew_Supremacist]

800 ng/dL, I’m currently at 850-1250 depending on day on trt

 

[WontStopNorwooding]

200 ng/dl

 

[Sens]

Anything above normal range, the more the better

 

[.👽.]

Anything above normal range, the more the better

whats the normal range? i have 650

 

[.👽.]

you can get to 1200 natty and could maintain 900 almost all year around

how?

 

[Sens]

whats the normal range? i have 650

Not bad, but idealy you want to double that tbh

 

[Gad]

600-1200

 

[.👽.]

Not bad, but idealy you want to double that tbh

ok thanks. is it high enough for my planned sarms cycle? heard low T + SARMs are not a good idea

 

[Deusmaximus]

What matters is free T

 

[Deleted member 7725]

ok thanks. is it high enough for my planned sarms cycle? heard low T + SARMs are not a good idea

Why not?

 

[Deleted member 7725]

What matters is free T

What's a good free T level?

 

[.👽.]

Why not?

cuz sarms lower your T so if u r already low u r fucked. theres an article from mpmd

 

[Lihito]

what is the acceptable minimum and what is considered normal, high? from a blackpilled perspective. got my blood work and doc said everything is normal

@loox
@CupOfCoffee
@SteveRogers

950 is ideal but 850 is more realistic

 

[Lihito]

800 ng/dL, I’m currently at 850-1250 depending on day on trt

did you ever have a natural stack or just started using TRT

 

[Deleted member 15698]

Really should be 800+. If you're not, something is off

 

[DesperadoRatado]

how?

2.5g tongat ali cycle (5 days on, 2 off), ksm-66 ashwagandha 600mg. 1-3 months. Can add tar form shilajit if possible

reminder that tar form shilajit and ashwagandha are the only 2 food supplements that have been tested on HEALTHY men and improved their testosterone levels

To maintain:

Animal food diet. Exclude fruits and grains. Preferably eat raw ofc

Since animal foods provide cholesterol, you can absorb vitamin d from sun. Also animal foods already have Vit d present so you wont be defiecent.

Heavier weight workouts, but this is honestly optional.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

cuz sarms lower your T so if u r already low u r fucked. theres an article from mpmd

Well I have similar T level as you and did SARMs and felt good and had good gains.

 

[Sens]

What's a good free T level?

the more the better, usually if u have high overall T your free T is good, i would say in 90% of cases, ofc SHBG and liver health plays a huge role

 

[.👽.]

Really should be 800+. If you're not, something is off

what could it be? diet, Home-Office/not moving enough?

 

[.👽.]

tongat ali

I have this but cant take it, tastes so disgusting

 

[.👽.]

950 is ideal but 850 is more realistic

fuck im way below then. thanks. explains my low drive

 

[Deleted member 16262]

i have 900 ng/dl

 

[Deleted member 15698]

what could it be? diet, Home-Office/not moving enough?

Many causes. Most common ones are

-Less than 8-9hrs of high quality sleep
-Lifestyle stress
-Being non lifting faggot
-Poor diet & nutrient/micronutrient deficiencies
-More exposure than average to environmental anti androgens

 

[Deleted member 16262]

Many causes. Most common ones are

-Less than 8-9hrs of high quality sleep
-Lifestyle stress
-Being non lifting faggot
-Poor diet & nutrient/micronutrient deficiencies
-More exposure than average to environmental anti androgens

- You sit all day
- You have small balls
- You were abused in childhood
- You don't eat enough Tuna or other fish
- You don't take vitams

NO JOKE WHEN I TAKE A LOT OF VITAMINS MY LIBIDO GOES UP TO MUCH I HAVE TO JACK OFF OR I CANT FUNCTION

 

[Deleted member 16381]

I was 600ngdl a month cold turkey off “apple juice” and now im dealing with what could be a varicocele in my nut, libido is on and off atm

 

[Deleted member 15698]

- You sit all day
- You have small balls
- You were abused in childhood
- You don't eat enough Tuna or other fish
- You don't take vitams

NO JOKE WHEN I TAKE A LOT OF VITAMINS MY LIBIDO GOES UP TO MUCH I HAVE TO JACK OFF OR I CANT FUNCTION

I already said all this dude

Sitting all day=ur a non lifting faggot
Small balls=symptom of low test
Tuna fish vitamins=already said

Child abuse? Bro every black dude is abused as a kid, that shit doesn't lower your test

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Not being natty

 

[Deleted member 16262]

I already said all this dude

Sitting all day=ur a non lifting faggot
Small balls=symptom of low test
Tuna fish vitamins=already said

Child abuse? Bro every black dude is abused as a kid, that shit doesn't lower your test

no bro i sit most of the day but i do 15 pullups +20kg. 25 dips+20kg and run 3km in 12 mins

 

[Deleted member 16262]

symptom of low testosterone == you are member on looksmax.org

 

[one job away]

what is the acceptable minimum and what is considered normal, high? from a blackpilled perspective. got my blood work and doc said everything is normal

@loox
@CupOfCoffee
@SteveRogers

Tell your doc she’s a lil low t sissy

 

[one job away]

Tell your doc she’s a lil low t sissy

How did you get your bloodwork done? I want it as well

 

[Deleted member 13335]

600-2000 ng/dl are healthy levels

 

[Deleted member 15698]

no bro i sit most of the day but i do 15 pullups +20kg. 25 dips+20kg and run 3km in 12 mins

That's probably fine then. Sitting all day is bad for your test because it usually goes hand in hand with having a weak body and lack of stimulus. Obviously with these stats you're not weak and you train

 

[Deleted member 15698]

I sit most of the day too at work and my test is very high

 

[Slob]

at least quadruple digits

 

[Deleted member 7725]

what could it be? diet, Home-Office/not moving enough?

Yes. I went from 900 ng/dl when I was a college athlete to now being like 600 now that I work from home and don't exercise or eat as much anymore.

 

[Deleted member 14160]

2.5g tongat ali cycle (5 days on, 2 off), ksm-66 ashwagandha 600mg. 1-3 months. Can add tar form shilajit if possible

reminder that tar form shilajit and ashwagandha are the only 2 food supplements that have been tested on HEALTHY men and improved their testosterone levels

To maintain:

Animal food diet. Exclude fruits and grains. Preferably eat raw ofc

Since animal foods provide cholesterol, you can absorb vitamin d from sun. Also animal foods already have Vit d present so you wont be defiecent.

Heavier weight workouts, but this is honestly optional.

Is cruciferous veggies maxxing for the aromatase inhib legit?

 

[BearBoy]

4000 - 6000

 

[Htobrother]

1900+
I halfed the dose to 125mg weekly I’m depressed again probably put me around 1000-200

 

[Htobrother]

4000 - 6000

1g weekly Will put you in that range bro

 

[Htobrother]

I sit most of the day too at work and my test is very high

Chad trait

 

[.👽.]

How did you get your bloodwork done? I want it as well

dermatologist. i said i want it before i take fin

 

[CupOfCoffee]

At least 600, ideally around 900-1000 imo

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

T level difference is negligible in the natty range . It's all about androgen sensitivity.

300 ng/dl mogger with high androgen sensitivity > 900ng/dl incel with low androgen sensitivity

 

[Htobrother]

T level difference is negligible in the natty range . It's all about androgen sensitivity.

300 ng/dl mogger with high androgen sensitivity > 900ng/dl incel with low androgen sensitivity

For example someone on 250mg test having 1800ng/dL and more
Doesn’t that improve sensitivity ?
You can’t say that this guy is better of than the
500ng/dl?

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

For example someone on 250mg test having 1800ng/dL and more
Doesn’t that improve sensitivity ?
You can’t say that this guy is better of than the
500ng/dl?

At super physiological levels of T... the roid-cel has a big advantage obviously. I was talking about the natty range. Even then, natty gym-cel with above average genetics will mog roid-cels with piss poor genetics.

 

[Htobrother]

At super physiological levels of T... the roid-cel has a big advantage obviously. I was talking about the natty range. Even then, natty gym-cel with above average genetics will mog roid-cels with piss poor genetics.

Tbh 250mg test doesn’t build that much muscle it’s not like wow you turn into a different specie
I seen that in many cases including myself and friends
There are maybe genetic outliers

if a natty works hard and gains 5kg in a year
The testcel will gain 9-10kg with a visible cosmetic effect
It’s just the same testosterone makes it faster because of nitrogen retention at the end of the day it’s almost same