What’s, on average, the optimal amount of physique-building for men who’re in it for women and mogging?

[TITUS]

Gym and cardio are just too good, and your diet should be optimal regardless, if the gym is too far build your own power rack for 200 bucks and buy an olympic bb and weights, or do your own with concrete and metal rods. You don't need supplements, besides a couple cheap ones. Learning how to hack your body through diet-exercise requires some time investment, knowledge and experience, but then you are set for life.

If you lack willpower because of too much work and life is too hard, JUST ROID, get on TRT so you can deal with life and keep your routines and become the beast you were meant to be. Injecting T for better life performance is probably much healthier than being too tired to hit the gym and cardio and doing none of it.

You can't really know how much time you need to invest in the gym/cardio, since it's totally dependent on yourself and how advanced you are. A cycle for slaying season is also optimal, i wouldn't do TRT or several cycles a year, unless you NEED it due to time constraints or whatever, but there is a cost to roids too and most people don't need to abuse them.

 

[TITUS]

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6'1 hamza ahmed lifting for 8 years, you saying this isn't natty achievable

You are stupid, don't trust any guy on internet claiming natty.

 

[coolguy1]

You cant get to the optimal limit natty

 

[twilight]

You are stupid, don't trust any guy on internet claiming natty.

Trust me I’m not stupid. I don’t like Hamza but I know a fake natty when I see one. His bod shows no signs of steroid use (massive traps and delts with insane vascularity 24/7). He’s been lifting on and off for 8 years and has admitted his own brother use to molest him jfl he’s a no bullshit guy why would he lie

 

[Stopping@Nothing19]

No need to be jealous brah.

lmao if you say so, all I'm saying is your physique can be achieved natty

 

[Deleted member 7725]

lmao if you say so, all I'm saying is your physique can be achieved natty

Sure brah. Find me 1 guy with my physique natty and also 6'7" barefoot like me. No need for petty attempts bring me down because you're jealous.

 

[Stopping@Nothing19]

Sure brah. Find me 1 guy with my physique natty and also 6'7" barefoot like me. No need for petty attempts bring me down because you're jealous.

it makes no sense, i never said you physique was bad jfl, you sound insecure, I'm simply stating you can get the physique without roids

 

[Deleted member 7725]

it makes no sense, i never said you physique was bad jfl, you sound insecure, I'm simply stating you can get the physique without roids

You can't. Show me 1 person with my physique natty.

 

[Stopping@Nothing19]

You can't. Show me 1 person with my physique natty.

natty btw, not everyone needs roids, you could have gotten your physique without them

 

[Deleted member 7725]

View attachment 1640441natty btw, not everyone needs roids, you could have gotten your physique without them

My physique mogs him hard and he's shorter than me. Looks like a dyel guy with abs.

Also 0 proof that he's natty.

 

[Stopping@Nothing19]

My physique mogs him hard and he's shorter than me. Looks like a dyel guy with abs.

Also 0 proof that he's natty.

he competed in the Olympics, use your brain, that shit is illegal and tested for

 

[Deleted member 7725]

he competed in the Olympics, use your brain, that shit is illegal and tested for

JFL if you think Olympics testing can detect professional cycles. Regardless, he looks like an average lean guy. Not a halo, just not a (skinny) fat fuck like most normies. I looked like that natty and didn't do shit for me. Invisible with clothes on.

Also he's a fucking Olympic athlete. JFL at thinking a dopamine-starved incel can achieve that.

 

[Stopping@Nothing19]

JFL if you think Olympics testing can detect professional cycles. Regardless, he looks like an average lean guy. Not a halo, just not a (skinny) fat fuck like most normies. I looked like that natty and didn't do shit for me. Invisible with clothes on.

Also he's a fucking Olympic athlete. JFL at thinking a dopamine-starved incel can achieve that.

he's 100% natty jfl, if you want a physique like his it's completely possible natty, you stopped your natty production for diminishing returns imo

 

[Deleted member 7725]

he's 100% natty jfl, if you want a physique like his it's completely possible natty, you stopped your natty production for diminishing returns imo

His physique is invisible with clothes on. He's also much shorter than me. I didn't "stop my natty production" jfl. I've been lifting for 4 years natty. You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. You're comparing the average incel to an olympic athlete. Nobody has the motivation to autistically track their calories and lift for years on end. Not to mention having the genes for it.

I didn't expect much from someone with an anime avi. You've probably never hit the gym because "muh body is cope".

 

[Stopping@Nothing19]

Nobody has the motivation to autistically track their calories and lift for years on end. Not to mention having the genes for it.

speak for yourself, you're the one on steroids

 

[Deleted member 7725]

speak for yourself, you're the one on steroids

Yup, took steroids after lifting for 4 years and being a D1 athlete. You will never get my physique natty and I mog that olympic athlete's body to smithereens. Jfl are you thinking that body looks good in clothes.

 

[Stopping@Nothing19]

You will never get my physique natty and I mog that olympic athlete's body to smithereens. Jfl are you thinking that body looks good in clothes.

You've never seen my body, that body looks good in tight clothes, you can't call yourself an athlete unless you've actually competed which you more than likely haven't.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

You've never seen my body, that body looks good in tight clothes, you can't call yourself an athlete unless you've actually competed which you more than likely haven't.

I played D1 sports. You're a coping incel who thinks a DYEL guy with abs is an impressive body.

 

[reputation]

Anything less than my physique is a failo:

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Are these arms natural?

 

[Stopping@Nothing19]

I played D1 sports. You're a coping incel who thinks a DYEL guy with abs is an impressive body.

i could claim the exact same thing. His body is impressive compared to the average NATTY male

 

[Deleted member 7725]

i could claim the exact same thing. His body is impressive compared to the average NATTY male

Yeah no shit. He's a fucking olympic athlete lmfao.

 

[Stopping@Nothing19]

Yeah no shit. He's a fucking olympic athlete lmfao.

a NATTY olympic athlete, not a fake, like yourself

 

[Deleted member 7725]

a NATTY olympic athlete, not a fake, like yourself

I played D1 sports natty.

There's no pride in staying natty as a blackpiller. I'd rather have a body that people drool over rather than acting like an autist tracking calories and working my ass off for a non-existent natty card.

 

[Stopping@Nothing19]

I played D1 sports natty.

There's no pride in staying natty as a blackpiller. I'd rather have a body that people drool over rather than acting like an autist tracking calories and working my ass off for a non-existent natty card.

fair enough, my point is you could have gotten than physique without the roids and unnecessarily taxing your organs

 

[Deleted member 7725]

fair enough, my point is you could have gotten than physique without the roids and unnecessarily taxing your organs

No I couldn't. I was already at my max potential. Nobody has my physique natty, especially at 6'7". Not even an olympic athlete. I love how you say all this shit when you have never hit the gym and have an anime avi.

 

[Stopping@Nothing19]

No I couldn't. I was already at my max potential. Nobody has my physique natty, especially at 6'7". Not even an olympic athlete. I love how you say all this shit when you have never hit the gym and have an anime avi.

at 6'7 you can easily get away with being lean, it makes no sense to do roids and tax your body like that

 

[Deleted member 7725]

at 6'7 you can easily get away with being lean, it makes no sense to do roids and tax your body like that

No I can't. It's 2022. Being lean doesn't do shit in the age of Tinder.

You keep coming up with copes. I actually did something while your bio is "wont stop rotting". Get out of your room and become a do-er.

 

[Stopping@Nothing19]

No I can't. It's 2022. Being lean doesn't do shit in the age of Tinder.

You keep coming up with copes. I actually did something while your bio is "wont stop rotting". Get out of your room and become a do-er.

at 6'7 you can get away with having a shit face, i'm 5'10 it's over for me, i accepted that

 

[Deleted member 7725]

at 6'7 you can get away with having a shit face, i'm 5'10 it's over for me, i accepted that

No you can't. You're 5'10". You have absolutely 0 authority to say what tall people experience and can get away with.

 

[Stopping@Nothing19]

No you can't. You're 5'10". You have absolutely 0 authority to say what tall people experience and can get away with.

your face must be terrible in that case

 

[TITUS]

Trust me I’m not stupid. I don’t like Hamza but I know a fake natty when I see one. His bod shows no signs of steroid use (massive traps and delts with insane vascularity 24/7). He’s been lifting on and off for 8 years and has admitted his own brother use to molest him jfl he’s a no bullshit guy why would he lie

You can hop off roids and keep the muscle for a while and wont have the traps and delts, but you will have the massive muscles and definition, You are not stupid, you are retarded, get out of my board.

 

[twilight]

You can hop off roids and keep the muscle for a while and wont have the traps and delts, but you will have the massive muscles and definition, You are not stupid, you are retarded, get out of my board.

You are an aspie faggot who randomly calls people retarded on an incel forum, congrats! Now get on my ignore list

 

[poopmaster22]

No you can't. You're 5'10". You have absolutely 0 authority to say what tall people experience and can get away with.

What you take I want to get big like you?

 

[user5321]

Anything less than my physique is a failo:

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why are you larping so hard? thats not you, that's piersonfit. unless you somehow are him which I really find that hard to believe

 

[thecel]

why are you larping so hard? thats not you, that's piersonfit. unless you somehow are him which I really find that hard to believe

shit 1st post

 

[randomuser2407]

Lifting just for women is stupid because many women have different criterias for looks.
Not all women care about muscles, and of the women who care about muscles, many would be satisfied with a physique like Brad Pitt in Fight Club.

But me personally, I prefer a Superhero type physique like what Jason Momoa had in Aquaman, even though most women who love muscles would be satisfied with something less muscular, or some would even be turned off by Jason Momoa's muscular look, this is the natural physique that I find the most aesthetic in my opinion:

But like I said, it is not necessary to look like that to be attractive, it is just what I prefer.

 

[user5321]

shit 1st post

lol shut up retard i bet u lie about your looks too

 

[Blackgymmax]

22-25 ffmi where the bf has to be around 12% if at 25 and 10% in lower ffmis. In that range you keep the natural look.

 

[Blackgymmax]

Obviously not lmfao.

What's up with you guys roiding to look natty. Youre smaller than me when I was natty

 

[Deleted member 18340]

My physique mogs him hard and he's shorter than me. Looks like a dyel guy with abs.

Also 0 proof that he's natty.

Mate just the fact that you doubt his natty status ..says that you are new to this stuff .he literally has no arms , delts , even chest ...it looks like he just does bodyweight runs and keeps bodyweight in check ..this is the nattiest of natty physiques

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Mate just the fact that you doubt his natty status ..says that you are new to this stuff .he literally has no arms , delts , even chest ...it looks like he just does bodyweight runs and keeps bodyweight in check ..this is the nattiest of natty physiques

He's an olympiad. He can be taking roids but not looking for size, just leanness and explosiveness.

JFL at calling me new when I mog your physique to smithereens.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

What's up with you guys roiding to look natty. Youre smaller than me when I was natty

Are you 6'7" barefoot? No.

And also you're highly delusional if you think you looked like me natty jfl.

 

[Deleted member 18340]

He's an olympiad. He can be taking roids but not looking for size, just leanness and explosiveness.

JFL at calling me new when I mog your physique to smithereens.

You ain't mogging me any day ..you can get that lean while natty ..I do MMA and slot of MMA dudes are natty af and even. MORE shredded than that ..this is me generally and in the lower pic I'm at my heaviest ..I like to be small cause it favors me for fighting..and as you can see my physique looks more like someone who fights and less like a bodybuilder

 

[Blackgymmax]

Are you 6'7" barefoot? No.

And also you're highly delusional if you think you looked like me natty jfl.

Nope but your muscularity looks worse than mine natty. You probably don't even fill out normal sized shirts dude lol you look like a swimmer. Leme grab a pic because you really don't look bigger than me natty lol. You look like a year 3-4 natty kinda like David laid but he's dyel In a shirt and is in the natty range but with good height and frame

 

[Deleted member 18340]

Nope but your muscularity looks worse than mine natty. You probably don't even fill out normal sized shirts dude lol you look like a swimmer. Leme grab a pic because you really don't look bigger than me natty lol. You look like a year 3-4 natty kinda like David laid but he's dyel In a shirt and is in the natty range but with good height and frame

The delusions of these newfags never cease to amuse me ..and could you post a pic of your physique brocel ??

 

[Blackgymmax]

Are you 6'7" barefoot? No.

And also you're highly delusional if you think you looked like me natty jfl.

Mattdoesfitness is just outside the natty zone and I've just about hit that rn. You are like 3 ffmi pts beneath that. I just don't know why youd take roid sides for what you can get natty. Your physique is great but it's definitely attainable natty lol even Eric helms looks more jacked than you

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Mattdoesfitness is just outside the natty zone and I've just about hit that rn. You are like 3 ffmi pts beneath that. I just don't know why youd take roid sides for what you can get natty. Your physique is great but it's definitely attainable natty lol even Eric helms looks more jacked than you

Find me 1 person 6'7" barefoot who looks like me natty. Comparing me to manlets u fucking retard.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

You ain't mogging me any day ..you can get that lean while natty ..I do MMA and slot of MMA dudes are natty af and even. MORE shredded than that ..this is me generally and in the lower pic I'm at my heaviest ..I like to be small cause it favors me for fighting..and as you can see my physique looks more like someone who fights and less like a bodybuilder

Looks like absolute shit. Also ur not 6'7".

Nope but your muscularity looks worse than mine natty. You probably don't even fill out normal sized shirts dude lol you look like a swimmer. Leme grab a pic because you really don't look bigger than me natty lol. You look like a year 3-4 natty kinda like David laid but he's dyel In a shirt and is in the natty range but with good height and frame

Idgaf. I'm 6'7" and ur not. I wear XL and everyone I meet tells me how big I am (including girls) while you're just a compensating manlet. Keep seething for me.

 

[Deleted member 18340]

Looks like absolute shit. Also ur not 6'7".

Idgaf. I'm 6'7" and ur not. I'm XL and everyone I meet tells me how big I am. Keep seething for me manlet.

Newfag cope ...you're a lanklet

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Newfag cope ...you're a lanklet

LOL keep being jealous of me. I would dwarf you to oblivion IRL. You look unimpressive af. I looked like you when I didn't even lift lmfao.