Why are you so against surgery @lurkingtrucel

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@lurking truecel you were the biggest giant glazer, extremely pro surgery but now you’re making so many threads that surgery is cope and all that. Double jaw can ascend people so fucking hard. And many in the forum done it.
 
Surgery one of the very few looksmaxes that isn’t completely cope
 
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Probably like 0,1% of this forum have gotten a bimax despite 50% of the people saying they are going to get one.
I mean yes but there are also countless Reddit results and if they don’t over advance, get it by a good surgeon, have a short small lower third they always ascend literally one tier
 
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MOST people dont need an osteotomy, unless your a subhuman with a caved in skull that struggles to breath or your VERY well off financially its never worth :feelswhy: after surgery your gonna be a subhuman swollen nigga for about half a year or more and thats very valuable time if your in your prime years, the only "hardmaxxes" that a lot people should be doing are slight augmentations etc not whole osteotomies that drain your life savings and force you to go on leave from your job or quit entirely, MOST people in this forum just need to accept their fate and stop chasing this unreachable delusion of becoming chad
 
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Bro he’s just lieing cause he’s bored
 
MOST people dont need an osteotomy, unless your a subhuman with a caved in skull that struggles to breath or your VERY well off financially its never worth :feelswhy: after surgery your gonna be a subhuman swollen nigga for about half a year or more and thats very valuable time if your in your prime years, the only "hardmaxxes" that a lot people should be doing are slight augmentations etc not whole osteotomies that drain your life savings and force you to go on leave from your job or quit entirely, MOST people in this forum just need to accept their fate and stop chasing this unreachable delusion of becoming chad
Yea people think you get a bonus point for doing a more invasive surgery. Just because you see the biggest ascension from them(on deformedcels) doesnt mean its worth. People really forgot the concept of you are a few mm away from looking a lot better. Bimax is like the last tool in the tool box thats made to create some sort of starting point for deformed people. Like you need to be a unlucky fellow to need bimax. Also surgery has so many drawbacks thats its often better to stay away unless its truly bad. Filler, genio, small implants, rhino, fat graft, lifts is the primary tools and ehats needed for none deformed none functional peeps
 
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Yea people think you get a bonus point for doing a more invasive surgery. Just because you see the biggest ascension from them(on deformedcels) doesnt mean its worth. People really forgot the concept of you are a few mm away from looking a lot better. Bimax is like the last tool in the tool box thats made to create some sort of starting point for deformed people. Like you need to be a unlucky fellow to need bimax. Also surgery has so many drawbacks thats its often better to stay away unless its truly bad. Filler, genio, small implants, rhino, fat graft, lifts is the primary tools and ehats needed for none deformed none functional peeps
Bimax or dbjs mostly look natural
 
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MOST people dont need an osteotomy, unless your a subhuman with a caved in skull that struggles to breath or your VERY well off financially its never worth :feelswhy: after surgery your gonna be a subhuman swollen nigga for about half a year or more and thats very valuable time if your in your prime years, the only "hardmaxxes" that a lot people should be doing are slight augmentations etc not whole osteotomies that drain your life savings and force you to go on leave from your job or quit entirely, MOST people in this forum just need to accept their fate and stop chasing this unreachable delusion of becoming chad
It depends on the surgery how long the recovery is but yeah in dbj or bimax it takes one year to heal fully but it can also make the difference between mtn and htn. And who tf cares if you „waste“ a year of youre prime years if you’re just doing nothing
 
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yea it looks natural but the time and effort and money aint it. Also the risks are severe, and people do it for fun mostly
Best case is that you work from home and maybe be you’re own boss so you can work when you want and not do a 9-5
 
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MOST people dont need an osteotomy, unless your a subhuman with a caved in skull that struggles to breath or your VERY well off financially its never worth :feelswhy: after surgery your gonna be a subhuman swollen nigga for about half a year or more and thats very valuable time if your in your prime years, the only "hardmaxxes" that a lot people should be doing are slight augmentations etc not whole osteotomies that drain your life savings and force you to go on leave from your job or quit entirely, MOST people in this forum just need to accept their fate and stop chasing this unreachable delusion of becoming chad
No your not gonna be a subhuman for half a year lol. You will look presentable in like a month or so. You'll just look like you gained weight.

But the new forward growth and harmony fucking mogs your old lean self anyways.

If ur recessed, you will get a huge benefit from it. But true, it is an invasive surgery. It's not that hard to save up if ur not a complete loser.
 
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Yea people think you get a bonus point for doing a more invasive surgery. Just because you see the biggest ascension from them(on deformedcels) doesnt mean its worth. People really forgot the concept of you are a few mm away from looking a lot better. Bimax is like the last tool in the tool box thats made to create some sort of starting point for deformed people. Like you need to be a unlucky fellow to need bimax. Also surgery has so many drawbacks thats its often better to stay away unless its truly bad. Filler, genio, small implants, rhino, fat graft, lifts is the primary tools and ehats needed for none deformed none functional peeps
I went to my ortho. She looked at my side profile and said it looks nice, unique and aesthetic LOL. She said I have a moderate underbite and if I came to her back when I was a kid, she told me that my case would be surgery pretty much 100%.

She said though that I would benefit from it but that she thinks my side already looks nice lol and that she wouldn't go for a surgery if she was me hahaha.
My scan data:

SNA 79.5 Degrees,
SNB 84 degrees,
ANB -4.6 Degrees,
Wits -4.3mm,
Mp-SN 25,5 Degrees
 
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I went to my ortho. She looked at my side profile and said it looks nice, unique and aesthetic LOL. She said I have a moderate underbite and if I came to her back when I was a kid, she told me that my case would be surgery pretty much 100%.

She said though that I would benefit from it but that she thinks my side already looks nice lol and that she wouldn't go for a surgery if she was me hahaha.
My scan data:

SNA 79.5 Degrees,
SNB 84 degrees,
ANB -4.6 Degrees,
Wits -4.3mm,
Mp-SN 25,5 Degrees
did u get her number
 
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did u get her number
Nah. But fun fact, she got a BSSO and she planned it herself lol. She was her own ortho. And her lower jaw looks aesthetic.
 
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MOST people in this forum just need to accept their fate and stop chasing this unreachable delusion of becoming chad
And do what else? This sounds like the opinion of somebody who a 6/10 or 7/10.

If you're 5 or sub5, there is nothing else to do in life that brings any change into your life. The goal is to become attractive, so guys who are Clavicular and get a nose job are BDD and will only find trouble when speaking to surgeons who are bluepilled and don't understand how the twenty-year-old 6'3 7/10 Chad can't become better looking.

If I wasn't giving up my dream of having a wife, then I would stop when I run out of money or am 40 or reach that 6/10 sexual-entity cutoff.
 
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MOST people dont need an osteotomy, unless your a subhuman with a caved in skull that struggles to breath or your VERY well off financially its never worth :feelswhy: after surgery your gonna be a subhuman swollen nigga for about half a year or more and thats very valuable time if your in your prime years, the only "hardmaxxes" that a lot people should be doing are slight augmentations etc not whole osteotomies that drain your life savings and force you to go on leave from your job or quit entirely, MOST people in this forum just need to accept their fate and stop chasing this unreachable delusion of becoming chad
im not sure whats worse, the fact that ull be swollen for half a year during ur prime years, or the fact that even if u werent swollen it would pass without a single ioi or any female attraction, rendering that half a year useless.
 
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I went to my ortho. She looked at my side profile and said it looks nice, unique and aesthetic LOL. She said I have a moderate underbite and if I came to her back when I was a kid, she told me that my case would be surgery pretty much 100%.

She said though that I would benefit from it but that she thinks my side already looks nice lol and that she wouldn't go for a surgery if she was me hahaha.
My scan data:

SNA 79.5 Degrees,
SNB 84 degrees,
ANB -4.6 Degrees,
Wits -4.3mm,
Mp-SN 25,5 Degrees
brutal, "she" wouldn't need to get surgery cause she innately has chad smv so any time wasted in her prime years is never worth it
 
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brutal, "she" wouldn't need to get surgery cause she innately has chad smv so any time wasted in her prime years is never worth it
Shes like fucking 50 or something but she looks like she is around 30
 
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yea it looks natural but the time and effort and money aint it. Also the risks are severe, and people do it for fun mostly
im not sure whats worse, the fact that ull be swollen for half a year during ur prime years, or the fact that even if u werent swollen it would pass without a single ioi or any female attraction, rendering that half a year useless.
he’s right. You’re saying muh prime years, firstly prime years is bull shit bro. What do you even mean by them? and I know that you’re not Nt enough to make friends go to local clubs and travel around (probably). So better get the surgery you needs fast so you can stop rotting at home all day
 
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MOST people dont need an osteotomy, unless your a subhuman with a caved in skull that struggles to breath or your VERY well off financially its never worth :feelswhy: after surgery your gonna be a subhuman swollen nigga for about half a year or more
people exaggerate tf out of this. i was swollen for like a month
 
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he’s right. You’re saying muh prime years, firstly prime years is bull shit bro. What do you even mean by them? and I know that you’re not Nt enough to make friends go to local clubs and travel around (probably). So better get the surgery you needs fast so you can stop rotting at home all day
im not sure if ur talking to me but yeah gt ascend hard and fast so you spend the rest of your life being the dude that ur supposed to be.
 
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Best case is that you work from home and maybe be you’re own boss so you can work when you want and not do a 9-5
if u have a good enough job to pay for the bimax, odds are u earn a decent amount of vacation days and can get the time off
 
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if u have a good enough job to pay for the bimax, odds are u earn a decent amount of vacation days and can get the time off
I mean bimax or dbjs are extremely invasive surgery’s but they pay off hard. What I mean by that is that genio, alarplasty, fat grafting and orbital implants are way cheaper and can also easily ascend you hard
 
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if u have a good enough job to pay for the bimax, odds are u earn a decent amount of vacation days and can get the time off
Jaw surgeries are cheaper in Europe though. I'm 21 and living with my parents and I can afford it lol
 
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Jaw surgeries are cheaper in Europe though. I'm 21 and living with my parents and I can afford it lol
living with parents is a great strat. a lot of young fellas would be in better positions if they did it
 
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people exaggerate tf out of this. i was swollen for like a month
if you were swollen only for a month then that proves timothy got butchered rofl (im guessing your counting functionality and not aesthetics when it comes to the swelling?), I did preface when I said "MOST" because there are special cases like you where it didnt affect your career/bank acc as much and you actually got good results unlike a lot of cases ive seen where its "before vs before" or poorly executed. im not saying people should opt out of it completely as a viable option its just when people constantly push bimax n shit as the only option for ascension onto people who dont need it whatsoever :forcedsmile:
 
if you were swollen only for a month then that proves timothy got butchered rofl (im guessing your counting functionality and not aesthetics when it comes to the swelling?), I did preface when I said "MOST" because there are special cases like you where it didnt affect your career/bank acc as much and you actually got good results unlike a lot of cases ive seen where its "before vs before" or poorly executed. im not saying people should opt out of it completely as a viable option its just when people constantly push bimax n shit as the only option for ascension onto people who dont need it whatsoever :forcedsmile:
i mean timothy did do alot more surgeries at the same time, and tbh it is kinda crazy how he got buccal fat removal but his fat pads are still bloated so im kinda basing the timefrace off that. Once his buccal fat pad removal starts showing i think thatll be a good enough time to judge.
 
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when I saw GIANTS new lefort 2 patient I couldnt help but chuckle lol, that nga is the last person id think of when it comes to actually needing a very serious surgery like that :lul:
 
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living with parents is a great strat. a lot of young fellas would be in better positions if they did it
Mom asked when I'll start spending money on other stuff than surgeries lol
 
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when I saw GIANTS new lefort 2 patient I couldnt help but chuckle lol, that nga is the last person id think of when it comes to actually needing a very serious surgery like that :lul:
yeah much better example. could be a simple implant and soft tissue case
 
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i mean timothy did do alot more surgeries at the same time, and tbh it is kinda crazy how he got buccal fat removal but his fat pads are still bloated so im kinda basing the timefrace off that. Once his buccal fat pad removal starts showing i think thatll be a good enough time to judge.
damn forgot he got that done as well
And do what else? This sounds like the opinion of somebody who a 6/10 or 7/10.

If you're 5 or sub5, there is nothing else to do in life that brings any change into your life. The goal is to become attractive, so guys who are Clavicular and get a nose job are BDD and will only find trouble when speaking to surgeons who are bluepilled and don't understand how the twenty-year-old 6'3 7/10 Chad can't become better looking.

If I wasn't giving up my dream of having a wife, then I would stop when I run out of money or am 40 or reach that 6/10 sexual-entity cutoff.
srry skimmed over comments, "MOST people dont need an osteotomy, unless your a subhuman with a caved in skull that struggles to breath" i did say most because there are people who really need it (functionally), itll give you a slightly better base to work with if your subhuman but it isnt some magic pill thats gonna bump you up a couple point even if you have it planned by a so called "blackpill" surgeon, there are exceptions to the rule though
 
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damn forgot he got that done as well

srry skimmed over comments, "MOST people dont need an osteotomy, unless your a subhuman with a caved in skull that struggles to breath" i did say most because there are people who really need it (functionally), itll give you a slightly better base to work with if your subhuman but it isnt some magic pill thats gonna bump you up a couple point even if you have it planned by a so called "blackpill" surgeon, there are exceptions to the rule though
Well I have a recessed maxilla. A moderate underbite. No functional problems or shit like that. But I'm getting it and my ortho said that I'd benefit from it aswell. So yeah.
 
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Well I have a recessed maxilla. A moderate underbite. No functional problems or shit like that. But I'm getting it and my ortho said that I'd benefit from it aswell. So yeah.
wouldnt a moderate underbite count as a functional problem tho?
 
wouldnt a moderate underbite count as a functional problem tho?
Well yes but the thing is I have no functional problems that I'm aware of.
 
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damn forgot he got that done as well

srry skimmed over comments, "MOST people dont need an osteotomy, unless your a subhuman with a caved in skull that struggles to breath" i did say most because there are people who really need it (functionally), itll give you a slightly better base to work with if your subhuman but it isnt some magic pill thats gonna bump you up a couple point even if you have it planned by a so called "blackpill" surgeon, there are exceptions to the rule though
pretty brutal, my jaws my best feature yet Im a class 2 lol
 
i mean if you do actually have a class 3 djs is 100% worth for you no doubt
 

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