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So God simply is
So you didn’t read, got it
You ruined my erectionwhat
God is the ignorance of the origin, it's a negative concept, just like freedom is the absence of obstacles
These conversations aren’t for you boyo
Holy shit you fucking retard now i’m shriveled up and soft
u might be a retard i don't think your brain comprehends wtf i said in that post u told me i dnr. Your concept of god is of complete philosophical beliefs no inbetween that's why i said omnipotent. I described that u are using gods name as a property to knowledge and creation in a tldr which is what he's not or is. You are loosely misunderstanding what he is saying an sucking his cock hard like you do, i'll leave it at that.
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Gonna respond later, my phone got took by my teacher bc of this
#NeverRunning
You guys quite literally are explaining what I did and don’t even realize it. I think you guys may have gotten me mixed up with another Spiritualist in this thread. I never gave god a Definition as I’ve stated in previous messages. this is why I’m claiming you simply didn’t read what I said thoroughly.
You avoided my question. Let’s not be ignorant.
Yeah and the implication is that they're not convinced there is a god, what is the positive proposition they're putting forth when they reject the god proposition and how would that necessarily make it so that they think the universe came from nothing? Enlighten me.
That is separate from their atheistic position, it has no bearing on their atheism as a direct and inherent component of it. Big bang is not inherently and necessarily implied in atheism, evolution is not inherently and necessarily implied in atheism, nor is secular humanism, nazism, homosexualism, you name it. In order for it to be a worldview it has to make positive claims in regards to what it proposes and they need to be inherent to it by definition.
I didn’t post all of the quotes because it would be a massive TLDR. as your an idiot who doesn’t understand what “idolatry” is, you think like a Protestant or pisslam thinking we PRAY to the cross? Worship the cross? When we use it as a symbol an insignia of gods power we worship god and god alone. This unironically means ANYTHING CAN BE AN IDOL IF YOU PLACE TOO MUCH IMPORTANCE ON IT STOP BUTCHERING THE BIBLE THE CHURCH HAS BEEN EXPLAINING HOW TO INTERPRET THE TEXT FOR OVER 2k YEARS NOW, LISTEN TO WHAT THEY SAY INSTEAD OF YOUR STUPID IGNORANT MOUTH THE CHURCH DICTATES THE EXEGESIS OF SCRIPTURE NOT A RANDOM MAN WHO DOESNT UNDERSTAND CONTEXT NOT ME OR EVEN YOU BUT THE CHURCH WHO COMPILED THE BIBLE ONLT THEY HAVE AUTHRITY TO SAY HOW IT SHOULD BE INTERPRETED AND ITS NOT HOW YOU SAY (only protescucks do what you do but that’s why they are heretics and have over 30 sects no shit when every Protestant is their own church and pope like you they make the same mistake)
OK then try to look at it like this. If a person comes to you with a theory regarding who the killer is in a murder investigation, does your rejection of their theory carry any baggage insofar as you presenting an alternative to the theory? Are you under an obligation to propose an alternative when you reject what was brought up in the first place? A response to a proposition can never be a worldview or a proposition of its own. All the other things an atheist believes are irrelevant, these things are not necessarily implied in the atheistic position in and of itself, those are at best just holes they can poke in the theistic position. This is not hard to understand.
Im lazy man fuck of you should have posted that 2 hours ago I moved on.
One thing we agree on is that Roman Catholicism is retarded I’m not a Roman Catholic so yes I agree fuck Roman Catholicism due to their heresy they created the most brainless branch of Christianity which is exploding like a cancer called “Protestantism”
I moved on
Well I’ll leave you with this. Next time you read a verse or chapter remember that there is over 2k years of expert interpretation of the verse from the Orthodox Church (Roman Catholics errored in 1054 and started adding random shit) and to use that.
IM LAZY maybe tomorrow, man I have waited you at least one hour, fuck off now
The thing is, those things aren't observed as positions or opinions that atheists hold to with 100% consistency. You can have an atheistic that will subscribe to all the established scientific theories while another won't. Do you see why it can't be a worldview when the alledged positive implications of it you're tying to point out aren't even held with total consistency among atheists? This is what I mean when I say a certain characteristic or description needs to be inherent to a proposition for it to be an all-encompaasing, positive worldview or proposition of its own. Atheism in itself is the response to a proposition, all the arguments and beliefs that can follow from it will be separate.
No. That’s your own personal beliefs. Richard Dawkins makes it clear he has 3 proposed hyphothesis regarding human evolution and the creation of the universe 1 being the Big Bang just proofing into existence 2 an alien life form and 3 its eternal maybe?
Exactly this is why GAYthiests despise philosophy because it’s literally their kyrtonite. Gaytheists pride themselves on their pragmatism but the reality is they are one of the least logical worldviews out there no different from a child in the dark making assumptions on his surroundings based upon what he can make out. Atheists break down and realise their worldviews are incoherent, contradictory and illogical when confronted with the brutal reality of philosophy that’s why IM NOT AN ATHEIST.
Ok mr gay boy explain you position where do you stand in this what’s your opinion (so I can dismantle it and show how much of a pathetic dumbass bitch you are) because if you can’t bring a concise alternative or even a decent counter argument then your simply arguing for the sake of it and just being an typical obnoxious GAYthiest.
You need to make a claim about your position first so I can respond to it, that's what it means for atheism to be a response to a proposition, it doesn't make independent claims that stand on their own. What is your claim? If you say a god created the universe i can simply say I reject that because there is zero reason to believe a consciousness can exist outside a brain and that you're appealing to a mystery to solve another mystery with unnecessary leaps of logic which ultimately puts you back at the origin of the mystery you're trying to solve. Do you know what occams razor is? Your position violates this in spectacular fashion. I don't need to do much other than just point out that you believe in an invisible, silent, intangible and undetectable thing therefore have no evidential warrant to propose it as an explanation because those traits are indistinguishable from that which doesn't exist. Do you really think this is difficult for me or that I need to propose an alternative to what caused the universe into being to poke the infinite number of holes in your stupid account?
Lmao I spat my water. If you think theism is some established widely accepted position in philosophy you have just set yourself up to have your ass handed to you once again and be exposed for the deluded retard you are. Please go and look up the philpapers survey on positions philosophers hold to, this is the most commonly appealed to survey when it comes to data on contemporary professional philosophers' positions. Report back to me on what percentage identified as theists, I will wait.
may i ask why you beleive in god even without any evidence proving its existence?Nope. Wrong. Sure he’d correct the heretics known as Protestants and Roman Catholics but Eastern Orthodox we will pray and follow Jesus the same way the apostles did with 0 deviation we essentially haven’t changed anything. Protestants would be told off though that’s true
They will keep rambling forever.
Both require trust in the ability of our senses to tell us the world as it really is. How do we even know our outside perception of the world is real?
Idk what this whole argument is abt but from what ive read here’s what i think
Français?
It mean terrible child in french. Nice
The pagan gods are real. Their reality can be proven by summoning them.
There are many things we believe and act upon every day that cannot be proven through empirical evidence alone. Concepts like love, justice, logical principles, or even the laws of mathematics aren’t ‘proven’ by empirical evidence, yet no one doubts their existence or applicability. Similarly, the existence of God is a metaphysical issue, not something confined to the empirical domain. Asking for empirical proof of a metaphysical reality misunderstands the nature of what you’re asking about.
It’s true that concepts like love justice and logical aren’t always empirically provable but they are grounded in shared human experiences and logical consistency. The existence of God as a metaphysical claim similarly demands a rigorous examination.
Well that’s why most philosophers were theists and only a few such as can’t and Hume were atheists and even then they admitted that they don’t know jack shit and they are as knowledgable as an blind rabbit with 0 justification for their beliefs at least Hume is honest I respect that about him.
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