Why counting calories is a fucking scam

[appealmaxed]

You probably heard @Never Get Up say this a million times but calories is a unit for measuring heat. We don't burn heat for energy, we are not a fucking train, we use ATP for energy. This heat energy in also in a closed system. You don’t eat heat energy, you’re not a closed system.

Calories are an excuse pushed by the carbohydrate industry to blame their victims for becoming obese and dying of diabetes. Eat when hungry, stop eating when your not hungry. It is such a simple idea yet so difficult for people to understand. Our ancestors counted nothing yet now everyone thinks we need a calculator to eat.

By law, food labels can be in error of the "calories" inside their product by up to 20%. This mean if you think you supposedly eat 2000 "calories" a day, your not, it could be anywhere from 1600 - 2400 "calories" in reality.

Also, protein shouldn't even be counted as calories as it's not even used for energy but as a building block. Ofc, if you overeat on protein your body will turn into glucose but that rarely happens for the average person, escpecially those that destroy their bodies on "caloric deficit" diets.

There are many more problems (bioavailability, enzymes, digestion health...) with counting calories.

The only reason caloric deficit works is because people vastly cut their food intake to a dangerous level where they do lose weight but fuck up their body in the long run.

You can only use glucose or fat for energy. If you combine both within a meal you activate your Randle cycle and you nuke your body with inflammation.

You have option A: use only glucose ie. plants for energy and risk severe malnourishment in 3-4 years and pretty bad chronic health problems.

Or option B: go on a high fat carnivore diet and compeltely forget about calories, meal counting and other autistic diet strategies. You will feel healthy, satiated, and your body will self-correct any weight problems.



Just remember, calories are a bullshit propaganda that the corrupt grain industry uses to blame their victims for obesity caused by grain and sugar merchants.

 

[appealmaxed]

Meat eaters:
@Never Get Up @FaceandBBC @PrimalPlasty @Scottrg

 

[Orc]

when I cut I just feel hunger consistently, when I bulk I eat past satiety.

to maintain I eat when I feel hungry.

you don't have to track anything if you don't have impaired hormonal signaling.

 

[asdvek]

decades of bodybuilding, hours of bodybuilders counting calories and a dalit on org says counting calories dont work

 

[Jonas2k7]

 

[appealmaxed]

decades of bodybuilding, hours of bodybuilders counting calories and a dalit on org says counting calories dont work

when ur constantly spiking insulin with carbs and sugars. body builders keep fats to a minimum and protein constant and increase and decrease carbs depending on bulk, cut or maintain. this is not optimal diet and causes a ton of inflammation.

eating meat eggs and butter doesnt require calorie counting, there is no insulin spike, unless a large amount of protein is consumed at once.

even then there's the possible 20% error on each nutrition label

 

[asdvek]

butter

Let me guess, you're eating butter that's made from pasteurized milk

 

[SOCKS5]

You probably heard @Never Get Up say this a million times but calories is a unit for measuring heat. We don't burn heat for energy, we are not a fucking train, we use ATP for energy. This heat energy in also in a closed system. You don’t eat heat energy, you’re not a closed system.

Calories are an excuse pushed by the carbohydrate industry to blame their victims for becoming obese and dying of diabetes. Eat when hungry, stop eating when your not hungry. It is such a simple idea yet so difficult for people to understand. Our ancestors counted nothing yet now everyone thinks we need a calculator to eat.

By law, food labels can be in error of the "calories" inside their product by up to 20%. This mean if you think you supposedly eat 2000 "calories" a day, your not, it could be anywhere from 1600 - 2400 "calories" in reality.

Also, protein shouldn't even be counted as calories as it's not even used for energy but as a building block. Ofc, if you overeat on protein your body will turn into glucose but that rarely happens for the average person, escpecially those that destroy their bodies on "caloric deficit" diets.

There are many more problems (bioavailability, enzymes, digestion health...) with counting calories.

The only reason caloric deficit works is because people vastly cut their food intake to a dangerous level where they do lose weight but fuck up their body in the long run.

You can only use glucose or fat for energy. If you combine both within a meal you activate your Randle cycle and you nuke your body with inflammation.

You have option A: use only glucose ie. plants for energy and risk severe malnourishment in 3-4 years and pretty bad chronic health problems.

Or option B: go on a high fat carnivore diet and compeltely forget about calories, meal counting and other autistic diet strategies. You will feel healthy, satiated, and your body will self-correct any weight problems.



Just remember, calories are a bullshit propaganda that the corrupt grain industry uses to blame their victims for obesity caused by grain and sugar merchants.

holy not reading allat and it works just fine lost 50 pounds doing so

 

[FaceandBBC]

Counting calories has always been retarded as fuck to me. Even when I was a weightlifting slave I never counted them. But yeah, just eat when you feel like it and don’t starve or force feed yourself.

 

[appealmaxed]

Let me guess, you're eating butter that's made from pasteurized milk

jfl no. over if u buy this

only raw butter, raw milk or raw cheese

pasterization kills all the nutrients and enzymes to u can t digest a single nutrient

 

[Never Get Up]

when I cut I just feel hunger consistently, when I bulk I eat past satiety.

to maintain I eat when I feel hungry.

you don't have to track anything if you don't have impaired hormonal signaling.

 

[appealmaxed]

holy not reading allat and it works just fine lost 50 pounds doing so

The only reason caloric deficit works is because people vastly cut their food intake to a dangerous level where they do lose weight but fuck up their body in the long run.

where did i say it doesnt work??

 

[Orc]

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just because I think it's a valid strategy doesn't mean I follow it.

many people have lost weight tracking it.

 

[shieldzz]

dnr this garbage , everything checks out

losing weight or adding weight is just math , how it can be a scamm

 

[appealmaxed]

dnr this garbage , everything checks out

losing weight or adding weight is just math , how it can be a scamm

The only reason caloric deficit works is because people vastly cut their food intake to a dangerous level where they do lose weight but fuck up their body in the long run.

you really think people need fucking calculators to eat now adays jfl?

 

[Never Get Up]

just because I think it's a valid strategy doesn't mean I follow it.

many people have lost weight tracking it.

Weight is consisted of bone, fat, muscle, and water. You can lose weight in many aspects.

The goal is to lose fat, not the total weight.

Losing weight is NOT an indicator of health. Glycation damage via carbohydrates will still occur no matter what.

 

[autistic_tendencies]

Ancestors never counted one single calorie
If you eat a healthy diet the body acclimates itself

 

[Rigged]

You probably heard @Never Get Up say this a million times but calories is a unit for measuring heat. We don't burn heat for energy, we are not a fucking train, we use ATP for energy. This heat energy in also in a closed system. You don’t eat heat energy, you’re not a closed system.

Calories are an excuse pushed by the carbohydrate industry to blame their victims for becoming obese and dying of diabetes. Eat when hungry, stop eating when your not hungry. It is such a simple idea yet so difficult for people to understand. Our ancestors counted nothing yet now everyone thinks we need a calculator to eat.

By law, food labels can be in error of the "calories" inside their product by up to 20%. This mean if you think you supposedly eat 2000 "calories" a day, your not, it could be anywhere from 1600 - 2400 "calories" in reality.

Also, protein shouldn't even be counted as calories as it's not even used for energy but as a building block. Ofc, if you overeat on protein your body will turn into glucose but that rarely happens for the average person, escpecially those that destroy their bodies on "caloric deficit" diets.

There are many more problems (bioavailability, enzymes, digestion health...) with counting calories.

The only reason caloric deficit works is because people vastly cut their food intake to a dangerous level where they do lose weight but fuck up their body in the long run.

You can only use glucose or fat for energy. If you combine both within a meal you activate your Randle cycle and you nuke your body with inflammation.

You have option A: use only glucose ie. plants for energy and risk severe malnourishment in 3-4 years and pretty bad chronic health problems.

Or option B: go on a high fat carnivore diet and compeltely forget about calories, meal counting and other autistic diet strategies. You will feel healthy, satiated, and your body will self-correct any weight problems.



Just remember, calories are a bullshit propaganda that the corrupt grain industry uses to blame their victims for obesity caused by grain and sugar merchants.

Easily debunkable

 

[shieldzz]

you really think people need fucking calculators to eat now adays jfl?

yea because im not putting everything in my mouth like a whore ( you )

 

[Orc]

Weight is consisted of bone, fat, muscle, and water. You can lose weight in many aspects.

The goal is to lose fat, not the total weight.

Losing weight is NOT an indicator of health. Glycation damage via carbohydrates will still occur no matter what.

mTOR also causes oxidative stress which damages mitochondrial DNA and causes you to age prematurely, just about every aspect of your diet spikes mTOR more than any other diet.

mTOR signaling has been associated with mitochondrial dysfunction in aging and diseases like neurodegeneration and cancer.

 

[shieldzz]

Ancestors never counted one single calorie
If you eat a healthy diet the body acclimates itself

meds

 

[appealmaxed]

Easily debunkable

blud thinks i need this to eat food

@Never Get Up @autistic_tendencies @Never Get Up

 

[ascension124]

when ur constantly spiking insulin with carbs and sugars. body builders keep fats to a minimum and protein constant and increase and decrease carbs depending on bulk, cut or maintain. this is not optimal diet and causes a ton of inflammation.

eating meat eggs and butter doesnt require calorie counting, there is no insulin spike, unless a large amount of protein is consumed at once.

even then there's the possible 20% error on each nutrition label

Why keep fats to a minimum?

 

[Never Get Up]

mTOR also causes oxidative stress which damages mitochondrial DNA and causes you to age prematurely, just about every aspect of your diet spikes mTOR more than any other diet.

mTOR signaling has been associated with mitochondrial dysfunction in aging and diseases like neurodegeneration and cancer.

Association doesn’t equal causation.

Carbohydrate consumption is what accelerates aging, not meat and animal fat.

Stop listening to vegan propagandists that want you to avoid the one thing we evolved to eat for millions of years.

You are 32 years old and are still this low IQ.

Absolutely astonishing!

 

[Never Get Up]

Easily debunkable

Live debate me right now. DM for the rules.

 

[appealmaxed]

Why keep fats to a minimum?

no you shouldnt. keep them high.

bodybuilders do low fat to maximise the amount of carbs they can eat - idiots

 

[Rigged]

blud thinks i need this to eat food
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@Never Get Up @autistic_tendencies @Never Get Up

Having @autistic_tendencies agree with u should be a sign that ur takes ass

 

[Rigged]

Live debate me right now. DM for the rules.

im down lmao

 

[appealmaxed]

Having @autistic_tendencies agree with u should be a sign that ur takes ass

my and everyone's entire ancestry agrees with me - they will laugh at ur ass if u wip out a calculator while eating

 

[Orc]

Association doesn’t equal causation.

there's no association here, animal proteins, especially red meat directly spike mtor.

Carbohydrate consumption is what accelerates aging, not meat and animal fat.

both cause ageing, an extreme model towards any direction doesn't work due to this.

Stop listening to vegan propagandists that want you to avoid the one thing we evolved to eat for millions of years.

they live longer than meat eaters do, their quality of life is just lower.

You are 32 years old and are still this low IQ.

Absolutely astonishing!

you still haven't posted physique photos, surely the diet must be bearing fruits by now?

 

[Timmy.]

Weight is consisted of bone, fat, muscle, and water. You can lose weight in many aspects.

The goal is to lose fat, not the total weight.

Losing weight is NOT an indicator of health. Glycation damage via carbohydrates will still occur no matter what.

U still never responded to the sunlight argument bro

 

[Rigged]

my and everyone's entire ancestry agrees with me - they will laugh at ur ass if u wip out a calculator while eating

No ill pull out an abacus

Power play give the ancestors a sense of nostalgia

 

[Timmy.]

they live longer than meat eaters do, their quality of life is just lower

That means to eat both meat and veggies/fruit?

 

[Timmy.]

no you shouldnt. keep them high.

bodybuilders do low fat to maximise the amount of carbs they can eat - idiots
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400 grams of animal fat (brains specifically) wpuld make u ascend into a superhuman

 

[Never Get Up]

im down lmao

You must do the following:

• Face must be shown

• Up to 3 sources that are peer reviewed publications

• Any over talking will result in the moderator muting the person not in place to talk at the moment

• Provide only scientific hard outcomes (no associative data work)

• Will be live streamed via TikTok

• Must be at least 16 years old

• Discussing anything non-related to the topic at hand will result in an automatic ending of the debate

 

[Orc]

That means to eat both meat and veggies/fruit?

most foods cause problems in excess so the only way around that is moderation.

I usually stop eating fillers like bread/rice/potato when I'm cutting.

 

[Never Get Up]

U still never responded to the sunlight argument bro

Sunlight is not only beneficial, it is required.

 

[Never Get Up]

That means to eat both meat and veggies/fruit?

False

If you 2 knew anything about the Randle Cycle, which you don’t, then you would understand that eating a mixed macro diet is one of the worst things you can perform.

 

[Rigged]

You must do the following:

• Face must be shown

• Up to 3 sources that are peer reviewed publications

• Any over talking will result in the moderator muting the person not in place to talk at the moment

• Provide only scientific hard outcomes (no associative data work)

• Will be live streamed via TikTok

• Must be at least 16 years old

• Discussing anything non-related to the topic at hand will result in an automatic ending of the debate

A tiktok debate isnt a real debate… what r u on about i was in the powerscaling debate scene for a long time when i was younger and judged and ran hundreds of debates, im doing some shitty tiktok debate, thats not professional in any way


Also i dont have tiktok nor do i have an account and i cant show my face i can follow every rules besides that one

 

[Never Get Up]

A tiktok debate isnt a real debate… what r u on about i was in the powerscaling debate scene for a long time when i was younger and judged and ran hundreds of debates, im doing some shitty tiktok debate, thats not professional in any way


Also i dont have tiktok nor do i have an account and i cant show my face i can follow every rules besides that one

Then come back when you decide to actually debate a superior intellectual with 100% credibility in your name.

I want to know exactly who I am about to destroy infront of the world for show.

 

[Rigged]

You must do the following:

• Face must be shown

• Up to 3 sources that are peer reviewed publications

• Any over talking will result in the moderator muting the person not in place to talk at the moment

• Provide only scientific hard outcomes (no associative data work)

No associative data in science is retarded whats the mindset for that loo

• Will be live streamed via TikTok

• Must be at least 16 years old

• Discussing anything non-related to the topic at hand will result in an automatic ending of the debate

 

[Never Get Up]

No associative data in science is retarded whats the mindset for that loo

Association doesn’t inform on cause and effect outcomes.

 

[Rigged]

Then come back when you decide to actually debate a superior intellectual with 100% credibility in your name.

I want to know exactly who I am about to destroy infront of the world for show.

U couldnt beat me in a debate especially in this field? Not only do i have more scientific cred i also have way more professional debate experience than u + ur asking for a tiktok debate how is that in any way a professional debate

 

[Rigged]

Association doesn’t inform on cause and effect outcomes.

Correlation leads to causation not everything is proven

 

[N1666]

Then come back when you decide to actually debate a superior intellectual with 100% credibility in your name.

I want to know exactly who I am about to destroy infront of the world for show.

What a clown, you are setting irrelevant terms to try and dodge actually debating. You know you can't debate because you make the same points in every retarded reply and your sources are youtube videos

 

[Never Get Up]

U couldnt beat me in a debate especially in this field? Not only do i have more scientific cred i also way more professional debate experience than u + ur asking for a tiktok debate how is that in any way a professional debate

1. It won’t be a debate in the field of human nutrition. I would absolutely rape you. It will be a learning lesson for yourself.

2. You have 0 credibility just based off of how you type alone. Terrible word choice, grammar, and punctuation.

4. What does it matter where it’s streamed? How does that affect the discussion at all? It doesn’t.

 

[Rigged]

What a clown, you are setting irrelevant terms to try and dodge actually debating. You know you can't debate because you make the same points in every retarded reply and your sources are youtube videos

Yeh lol id be down to debate live, but for some reason wants me to make a tiktok acc and show my face? He didnt even set a falacy bound hes a goofy

 

[Never Get Up]

Correlation leads to causation not everything is proven

False

The first thing you ever learn as an upcoming scientist in any field is that if you can’t prove something without removing all variables then it can’t be classified as causal.

 

[Rigged]

1. It won’t be a debate in the field of human nutrition. I would absolutely rape you. It will be a learning lesson for yourself.

No u wouldnt

2. You have 0 credibility just based off of how you type alone. Terrible word choice, grammar, and punctuation.

3rd language, i dont have to good grammar to know what im talking about, also i do have cred by the fact im in med and have memorized and studied almost every sub catagory in 4/5 main branches of science

4. What does it matter where it’s streamed? How does that affect the discussion at all? It doesn’t.

 

[Blond3cel]

A tiktok debate isnt a real debate… what r u on about i was in the powerscaling debate scene for a long time when i was younger and judged and ran hundreds of debates, im doing some shitty tiktok debate, thats not professional in any way


Also i dont have tiktok nor do i have an account and i cant show my face i can follow every rules besides that one

TikTok Debate is peak in 2024.