Why counting calories is a fucking scam

since being carnivore i have never felt better and lost bf effortlessly without tracking calories just knowing how much meat i’ve eaten (1.5kg today so far).
you've been on carnivore for what? 3 days?
give it 3 months and your eating disorder will return, you're nothing but an animal
 
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you've been on carnivore for what? 3 days?
give it 3 months and your eating disorder will return, you're nothing but an animal
i’ve been on it for longer than half a year. i have eaten carbs as cheat before and felt like absolute shit
 
@MA_ascender his rules was show my face tiktok live debate
Niggas make any rule to make themselves seem smart, then he tried debating me here in replied if u want to check and then when i reply with something he cant debate he ignores me
There is no debate needed

He alr got destroyed by univer in this thread

After that he got destroyed is lying that he gained 11 lbs of muscle because of the carnivore raw meat diet
 
@MA_ascender his rules was show my face tiktok live debate
Niggas make any rule to make themselves seem smart, then he tried debating me here in replied if u want to check and then when i reply with something he cant debate he ignores me
You guys should meet in the middle and debate on discord, but anyone on .org can join the server to watch


@Never Get Up
 
you fucking pussy cunt
start the livestream


hahahjashjasdhjahsjhjahjahujahjahahhahaa, please do it
Ill run it any day but hes adding stipulations make it impossible for me lmao, all he needs to do is discord debate and stream it to tiktok we can even get a debate server judge and ik alot of them, and no face cam
 
i’ve been on it for longer than half a year. i have eaten carbs as cheat before and felt like absolute shit
you had a cheat day 3 days ago you absolute fucking mong.
according to your daddy @Never Get Up it takes MONTHS if not YEARS to truly be a carnivore, where all the carbs in your body have finally been detoxed out.

you're just coping with the fact that you can't handle low calorie diets
 
Ill run it any day but hes adding stipulations make it impossible for me lmao, all he needs to do is discord debate and stream it to tiktok we can even get a debate server judge and ik alot of them, and no face cam
@Never Get Up
come on nigger do it, why are you not doing it ?
 
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You guys should meet in the middle and debate on discord, but anyone on .org can join the server to watch


@Never Get Up
Exactly what i said id be down ofc no face too

He made 6?of the rules i can choose 2 very irrelavent ones to change i thnk thats fair
 
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Exactly what i said id be down ofc no face too

He made 6?of the rules i can choose 2 very irrelavent ones to change i thnk thats fair
I hope any one of you two actually values this and isn't just yapping to prove a point
 
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There is no debate needed

He alr got destroyed by univer in this thread

After that he got destroyed he started lying that he gained 11 lbs of muscle because of tis carnivore raw meat diet
 
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I hope any one of you two actually values this and isn't just yapping to prove a point
Wdym value? I dont value anything he says as he doesnt know what hes taking about
 
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you had a cheat day 3 days ago you absolute fucking mong.
according to your daddy @Never Get Up it takes MONTHS if not YEARS to truly be a carnivore, where all the carbs in your body have finally been detoxed out.

you're just coping with the fact that you can't handle low calorie diets
what difference does it make if i cheated this ain’t a religion. carbs taste good no doubt about it, i have them rarely now. idc what he thinks about it. your coping since carbs taste good and want to continue eating them. i eat meat eggs and butter most of the time and feel better for it
 
Wdym value? I dont value anything he says as he doesnt know what hes taking about
Nah I meant value the idea of actually having a civil debate


Even tho this is a "facts" subject and not really a "debate" subject, I think we would all benefit from hearing what everyone has to say and what lets them think that way.
 
what difference does it make if i cheated. carbs taste good no doubt about it, i have them rarely now. idc what he thinks about it. your coping since carbs taste good and want to continue eating them. i eat meat eggs and butter most of the time and feel better for it
just completely ignore what i've written and rant on emotionally about how I am the one coping and not the one with a literal eating disorder that he can't manage

even women have better self-control than you, i give up on arguing with a sub-woman.
 
Nah I meant value the idea of actually having a civil debate


Even tho this is a "facts" subject and not really a "debate" subject, I think we would all benefit from hearing what everyone has to say and what lets them think that way.
as ive stated before ive been debating professionaly for a while now, not as a job but as a hobby, ive judged and ran hundreds of debates on official servers id be civilized
 
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as ive stated before ive been debating professionaly for a while now, not as a job but as a hobby, ive judged and ran hundreds of debates on official servers id be civilized
@Never Get Up he's up to it, backing out = pussying out
 
as ive stated before ive been debating professionaly for a while now, not as a job but as a hobby, ive judged and ran hundreds of debates on official servers id be civilized
Well really?

If you were smart you would know that dht is a utterly trash hormone

I am pretty sure you are a dht lover
 
just completely ignore what i've written and rant on emotionally about how I am the one coping and not the one with a literal eating disorder that he can't manage

even women have better self-control than you, i give up on arguing with a sub-woman.
idk what your arguing for. eat as you wish. as will i. me saying you don’t need to count cals and eat carbs doesn’t mean you need to follow that.
it’s also indeed so i don’t have to eat low cals, i don’t see why i would eat low cals and starvemax instead of eating higher cals and be satiated and have nutrients and achieve the same and better results
 
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@lestoa imagine we gather 200 users, all waiting eagerly in the discord for the debate to Start, it took weeks to convince both parties to do this...


"NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIG-"

-discord disconnected sound
 
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@lestoa imagine we gather 200 users, all waiting eagerly in the discord for the debate to Start, it took weeks to convince both parties to do this...


"NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIG-"

-discord disconnected sound
it would be so funny man ; (
 
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Well really?

If you were smart you would know that dht is a utterly trash hormone
If u used ur eyes ud look at my profile post and see in my most recent convo i shit on dht, dht has different purposes i dont hink its a heavenly hormone but it has benefits im very neurtral on it and my stance changes depending on ur goal from it
 
Reminds me of when I was COUNTING my Cals at 12. Eating 1200 a day made real with counting. No cardio, gym only 3x a week and minimal walking. Lost 4 kg in 3 weeks
 
If u used ur eyes ud look at my profile post and see in my most recent convo i shit on dht, dht has different purposes i dont hink its a heavenly hormone but it has benefits im very neurtral on it and my stance changes depending on ur goal from it
Yeah i know

Dht is a trash hormone i know
 
@lestoa imagine we gather 200 users, all waiting eagerly in the discord for the debate to Start, it took weeks to convince both parties to do this...


"NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIG-"

-discord disconnected sound
Tbh neither of us are good speakers most likely lol, it would prolly be a bunch of ummms and likeees anyways
 
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idk what your arguing for. eat as you wish. as will i. me saying you don’t need to count cals and eat carbs doesn’t mean you need to follow that.
it’s also indeed so i don’t have to eat low cals, i don’t see why i would eat low cals and starvemax instead of eating higher cals and be satiated and have nutrients and achieve the same and better results
i've literally written earlier in this thread why you should keep shitposts like this thread in OFFTOPIC
there's too many gullible normal people in the looksmaxxing section who will follow this retarded advice and looksmin themselves, if not completely ruin their HEALTH.

i'm done arguing with you, you have zero clue of what you're talking about and don't even bother reading half the stuff i write
 
Ca
You probably heard @Never Get Up say this a million times but calories is a unit for measuring heat. We don't burn heat for energy, we are not a fucking train, we use ATP for energy. This heat energy in also in a closed system. You don’t eat heat energy, you’re not a closed system.

Calories are an excuse pushed by the carbohydrate industry to blame their victims for becoming obese and dying of diabetes. Eat when hungry, stop eating when your not hungry. It is such a simple idea yet so difficult for people to understand. Our ancestors counted nothing yet now everyone thinks we need a calculator to eat.

By law, food labels can be in error of the "calories" inside their product by up to 20%. This mean if you think you supposedly eat 2000 "calories" a day, your not, it could be anywhere from 1600 - 2400 "calories" in reality.

Also, protein shouldn't even be counted as calories as it's not even used for energy but as a building block. Ofc, if you overeat on protein your body will turn into glucose but that rarely happens for the average person, escpecially those that destroy their bodies on "caloric deficit" diets.

There are many more problems (bioavailability, enzymes, digestion health...) with counting calories.

The only reason caloric deficit works is because people vastly cut their food intake to a dangerous level where they do lose weight but fuck up their body in the long run.

You can only use glucose or fat for energy. If you combine both within a meal you activate your Randle cycle and you nuke your body with inflammation.

You have option A: use only glucose ie. plants for energy and risk severe malnourishment in 3-4 years and pretty bad chronic health problems.

Or option B: go on a high fat carnivore diet and compeltely forget about calories, meal counting and other autistic diet strategies. You will feel healthy, satiated, and your body will self-correct any weight problems.



Just remember, calories are a bullshit propaganda that the corrupt grain industry uses to blame their victims for obesity caused by grain and sugar merchants.
Can’t you just split your carbs and fats into different meals
 
im skinnyfat i just wanna be lean man
 
Face must be shown. I will not repeat myself.
do u not have employment, school or social life to worry about since its being livestreamed on tiktok?

and why didnt u reply to his long paragraph where he seemed to disprove everything you said about randle cycle etc (idk anything about this topic so i say "seemed")
 
do u not have employment, school or social life to worry about since its being livestreamed on tiktok?

and why didnt u reply to his long paragraph where he seemed to disprove everything you said about randle cycle etc (idk anything about this topic so i say "seemed")
He didn’t disprove anything, hence why I didn’t waste any time with those low IQ remarks. Any competent scientist would stop reading the moment he brought up cholesterol.
 
i’ve legit had to mute this thread, 4 pages in a few hours is wild
 
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i’ve legit had to mute this thread, 4 pages in a few hours is wild
They’re all trying to debunk me and it’s hilarious. Low T carbohydrate addicted faggots could never do what I do. They can’t handle the IQ mog.
 

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