Why counting calories is a fucking scam

[Never Get Up]

What a clown, you are setting irrelevant terms to try and dodge actually debating. You know you can't debate because you make the same points in every retarded reply and your sources are youtube videos

I IQ mog this entire forum. Those YouTubers would dog walk you in the field of human nutrition. I’m currently in the works with a few of them myself.

 

[Rigged]

False

The first thing you ever learn as an upcoming scientist in any field is that if you can’t prove something without removing all variables then it can’t be classified as causal.

removing every variable isnt possible, ur limited by metabolic constraints also an example of my point is the link between sfats and cardio disease, it was originally correlation then we proved RCTs thru LDL impact and we got our causation

 

[Rigged]

I IQ mog this entire forum. Those YouTubers would dog walk you in the field of human nutrition. I’m currently in the works with a few of them myself.

Ive talked with alot of youtubers on their individual fields tyler from heightquest derek from mpmd ken from gettingbugger; all these guys know as much as they know theyre not geniuses, im not known publically but im active on dozens of private telegrams for these types of things

I would dogwalk any youtuber jfl

 

[appealmaxed]

Ive talked with alot of youtubers on their individual fields tyler from heightquest derek from mpmd ken from gettingbugger; all these guys know as much as they know theyre not geniuses, im not known publically but im active on dozens of private telegrams for these types of things

I would dogwalk any youtuber jfl

 

[Rigged]

TikTok Debate is peak in 2024.

Jfl sadly back in the day ud get clowned for debating like that

 

[Timmy.]

Sunlight is not only beneficial, it is required.

How come khoisan and hadzabe get wrinkled when theyre older? Who gives a shit about being healthy when you’re wrinkly

 

[Never Get Up]

removing every variable isnt possible, ur limited by metabolic constraints also an example of my point is the link between sfats and cardio disease, it was originally correlation then we proved RCTs thru LDL impact and we got our causation

That’s the entire point I’m making. There is 0 cause and effect studies with humans locked in a lab for multiple decades with the same genotypical DNA observing everything they do to prove ANY aspect of human nutrition as causal. This includes the carnivore diet.

However, based on the facts that exogenous carbohydrates do indeed cause glycation, elevated blood glucose levels, and activate the Randle Cycle is more than enough proof that humans evolved to only eat meat and animal fat.

Gluconeogenesis is also another proof that you don’t ever have to consume carbohydrates (sugar).

 

[Rigged]

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[Timmy.]

False

If you 2 knew anything about the Randle Cycle, which you don’t, then you would understand that eating a mixed macro diet is one of the worst things you can perform.

How come I feel euphoric after eating fruits?

 

[Never Get Up]

Ive talked with alot of youtubers on their individual fields tyler from heightquest derek from mpmd ken from gettingbugger; all these guys know as much as they know theyre not geniuses, im not known publically but im active on dozens of private telegrams for these types of things

I would dogwalk any youtuber jfl

This entire time I didn’t even realize it.

 

[appealmaxed]

How come I feel euphoric after eating fruits?

i feel euphoric when i ate chocolate and pizza . didn’t make it good

 

[Never Get Up]

How come I feel euphoric after eating fruits?

It’s called Ghrelin suppression. You will feel terrible later.

 

[Timmy.]

i feel euphoric when i ate chocolate and pizza . didn’t make it good

will I legit die if I have an orange or an apple

 

[Timmy.]

It’s called Ghrelin suppression. You will feel terrible later.

Most optimal diet, 24/7 under the sunlight yet still wrinkly

 

[appealmaxed]

will I legit die if I have an orange or an apple

no but it causes chronic inflammation, spikes insulin etc.

fruits now are manufactured bs anyway with all the shit they inject into it. may as well just eat chocolate if u were gonna eat a fruit, probably has less sugar in it anyway

 

[Never Get Up]

Most optimal diet, 24/7 under the sunlight yet still wrinkly
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Looks high T to me. They would brutally murder you, then proceed to use your carcass as tools.

 

[appealmaxed]

will I legit die if I have an orange or an apple

just look at everyone around you. legit all subhumans with subhuman aging. it never used to be like this. having diets filled with carbs is what changed

 

[Timmy.]

no but it causes chronic inflammation, spikes insulin etc.

fruits now are manufactured bs anyway with all the shit they inject into it. may as well just eat chocolate if u were gonna eat a fruit, probably has less sugar in it anyway

What abt shit in the forest?

 

[appealmaxed]

What abt shit in the forest?

nigga it’s irrelevant r u gonna walk to a forest when u want fruit??

it will activate randle cycle anyway which is what causes the inflammation

 

[Timmy.]

Looks high T to me. They would brutally murder you, then proceed to use your carcass as tools.

Im a boxer and I spar 6’6” and 6’3” people and people who’ve sparred olympic athletes. I am high T brody. Im talking about there ugly ass skin quality

Like wtf bro? If standing in the sunlight will make me have higher T but make me look like this? No thx

 

[Rigged]

That’s the entire point I’m making. There is 0 cause and effect studies with humans locked in a lab for multiple decades with the same genotypical DNA observing everything they do to prove ANY aspect of human nutrition as causal. This includes the carnivore diet.

Ur standard for causation is retarded lmao nutrition science gets causation from epidemiology and RCTs we get LDL sfat and cholesterol connection from bradford hill framework uve just never read a well made RCT

However, based on the facts that exogenous carbohydrates do indeed cause glycation, elevated blood glucose levels, and activate the Randle Cycle is more than enough proof that humans evolved to only eat meat and animal fat.

So ur conflating a physiological process with pathological outcomes? U dont understand evo bio, glycation is a normal process that happens with any metabolic subtrate, its pathoaffect depends on chronic dysregulation, the randle cycle doesnt have a preference for meat jfl

Gluconeogenesis is also another proof that you don’t ever have to consume carbohydrates (sugar).

Its not proof, only relying on it increases metabolic stress if u did ur research ud know this it also raises colestoral and takes away protein from anabolics, also carb intake supports several processes and every one of those processes is less efficient with glucose thats only from gluconeo


This debate is so pointless ur just a ranter whole never admit hes wrong

 

[appealmaxed]

Im a boxer and I spar 6’6” and 6’3” people and people who’ve sparred olympic athletes. I am high T brody. Im talking about there ugly ass skin quality

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Like wtf bro? If standing in the sunlight will make me have higher T but make me look like this? No thx

some mogger zygos tho

 

[Timmy.]

nigga it’s irrelevant r u gonna walk to a forest when u want fruit??

it will activate randle cycle anyway which is what causes the inflammation

I will legit consider doing this raw carnivore deal when I get the money to sustain myself without parents if it will give me 1 psl. Like legitimately give 1 psl boost

 

[Timmy.]

some mogger zygos tho

True, that could be from there diet 100%. But shit that is SOME UGLYY FUCKING WOMAN

 

[Rigged]

This entire time I didn’t even realize it.

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Good wise fold

 

[appealmaxed]

I will legit consider doing this raw carnivore deal when I get the money to sustain myself without parents if it will give me 1 psl. Like legitimately give 1 psl boost

your not gonna ascend to chad, but will give you everything you need to improve and continue developing nutrition wise

 

[Rigged]

Ur standard for causation is retarded lmao nutrition science gets causation from epidemiology and RCTs we get LDL sfat and cholesterol connection from bradford hill framework uve just never read a well made RCT

So ur conflating a physiological process with pathological outcomes? U dont understand evo bio, glycation is a normal process that happens with any metabolic subtrate, its pathoaffect depends on chronic dysregulation, the randle cycle doesnt have a preference for meat jfl

Its not proof, only relying on it increases metabolic stress if u did ur research ud know this it also raises colestoral and takes away protein from anabolics, also carb intake supports several processes and every one of those processes is less efficient with glucose thats only from gluconeo


This debate is so pointless ur just a ranter whole never admit hes wrong

@appealmaxed u think he folded jfl

 

[Never Get Up]

I will legit consider doing this raw carnivore deal when I get the money to sustain myself without parents if it will give me 1 psl. Like legitimately give 1 psl boost

I just hope you know that you’re not currently a Chad due to your parents, their parents, etc. not eating raw meat and animal fat only.

 

[Scottrg]

Good post

 

[Timmy.]

I just hope you know that you’re not currently a Chad due to your parents, their parents, etc. not eating raw meat and animal fat only.

Just to make u happy, 10 minutes ago I ate some lamb fat, it was dry aged under the sun but still.

I wont deny the diet part but sunlight can gtfo

 

[Timmy.]

your not gonna ascend to chad, but will give you everything you need to improve and continue developing nutrition wise

Then FUCK carnivore diet. No disrespect to you tho, ur a nice guy

 

[Never Get Up]

Just to make u happy, 10 minutes ago I ate some lamb fat, it was dry aged under the sun but still.

I wont deny the diet part but sunlight can gtfo

I don’t give a fuck what you put down your throat. If you want to eat poison (carbohydrates), then go for it. It’s your funeral.

 

[Timmy.]

I just hope you know that you’re not currently a Chad due to your parents, their parents, etc. not eating raw meat and animal fat only.

Low Prenatal T overload

 

[Timmy.]

I don’t give a fuck what you put down your throat. If you want to eat poison (carbohydrates, then go for it. It’s your funeral.

Why so mean (

 

[Never Get Up]

Why so mean (

You have low testosterone.

 

[appealmaxed]

@appealmaxed u think he folded jfl

i’ve not even read half the debate.

i’ve based my decision on cutting the carbs and eating protein and fat soley through anscestors.
we only recently started developing chronic illness, subhuman bone structure, subhuman ageing. i can only boil it down to all the processed and manufactured bs eveyone is consuming now days. they used to eat meats high in fat and had great bones, aging and weren’t fat despite never hearing the word calorie.

 

[Timmy.]

i’ve not even read half the debate.

i’ve based my decision on cutting the carbs and eating protein and fat soley through anscestors.
we only recently started developing chronic illness, subhuman bone structure, subhuman ageing. i can only boil it down to all the processed and manufactured bs eveyone is consuming now days. they used to eat meats high in fat and had great bones, aging and weren’t fat despite never hearing the word calorie.

What about honey? Dairy? And why fruits bro… not all carbs are the same

 

[appealmaxed]

the only people truly advocating that carbs are needed are bodybuilders and the general public who are brainwashed and eat mcdonald and cereal for breakfast

 

[Timmy.]

You have low testosterone.

But im a combat athlete, how? I sometimes dont have the opportunity to eat animal products all the time and avoid shitty grains and other fake ass food but I do my best everytime

 

[Never Get Up]

i’ve not even read half the debate.

i’ve based my decision on cutting the carbs and eating protein and fat soley through anscestors.
we only recently started developing chronic illness, subhuman bone structure, subhuman ageing. i can only boil it down to all the processed and manufactured bs eveyone is consuming now days. they used to eat meats high in fat and had great bones, aging and weren’t fat despite never hearing the word calorie.

Anyone with half a brain will realize that this 3rd world subhuman plant muncher is not credible whatsoever.

But hey, I will no longer preach raw carnivore to the masses! I am a proud vegan and attendant of the 7th Day Adventists!

 

[ey88]

What about honey? Dairy? And why fruits bro… not all carbs are the same

Bad for you

Dairy should only be consumed before you have teeth

 

[Timmy.]

the only people truly advocating that carbs are needed are bodybuilders and the general public who are brainwashed and eat mcdonald and cereal for breakfast

Sam sulek promoting kids to deink a gallon of chocolate milk a day, when instead they cpuld have a gallon of RAW milk a day…

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Eating Raw meat = retarded

 

[Never Get Up]

But im a combat athlete, how? I sometimes dont have the opportunity to eat animal products all the time and avoid shitty grains and other fake ass food but I do my best everytime

Fake food is an oxymoron.

Food = nourishment

Poison = malnourishment

Meat and animal fat = food

Poison = everything from a plant

 

[Timmy.]

Bad for you

Dairy should only be consumed before you have teeth

I refuse to believe, south sudan’s tallest tribes eating nothing but cow milk and grow heavily

 

[Sovvton]

Meat eaters:
@Never Get Up @FaceandBBC @PrimalPlasty @Scottrg

Getting tagged as a “Meat eater” is crazy ngl

 

[Timmy.]

Fake food is an oxymoron.

Food = nourishment

Poison = malnourishment

Meat and animal fat = food

Poison = everything from a plant

What about milk? And honey?

 

[DR. NICKGA]

I refuse to believe, south sudan’s tallest tribes eating nothing but cow milk and grow heavily

Genetics

 

[Never Get Up]

What about milk? And honey?

Those are both poison.

 

[Timmy.]

Genetics

Fake, koreans grew taller after nourishment came