Jonas2k7
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I'm tired of trannies here trying to convince people that DHT is useless. This thread will cover the importance of DHT and why you should not block it by the use of 5ARIs.
My friend @20/04/2008 made a really good thread on it, so I will just TLDR it:
DHT is not only the stronger version of Testosterone (2-4 times higher affinity to the androgen receptor), but also binds differently to the AR because of its unique structure.
This means each androgen exerts unique effects, including DHT. So only using Testosterone is not the right solution.
Now to the other uses of the enzyme 5α-reductase: It doesn't only affect the conversion of T to DHT, here are some other reactions:
Cholestenone → 5α-Cholestanone
Progesterone → 5α-Dihydroprogesterone
3α-Dihydroprogesterone → Allopregnanolone
3β-Dihydroprogesterone → Isopregnanolone
Deoxycorticosterone → 5α-Dihydrodeoxycorticosterone
Corticosterone → 5α-Dihydrocorticosterone
Aldosterone → 5α-Dihydroaldosterone
Androstenedione → 5α-Androstanedione
Nandrolone → 5α-Dihydronandrolone
The functions of some of the 5α-reduced steroids are unknown, that's why it isn't a good idea to "just use fin bro because you'll be fine."
Allopregnanolone is an important neurosteroid made from 3α-dihydroprogesterone. Without 5α-reductase on the other hand, this important neurosteroid can't be synthesized.
Progesterone → DHP via 5α-reductase
DHP → Allopregnanolone via 3α-HSD
Allopregnanolone → Positive allosteric modulator of GABA-A receptors
TLDR: No allopregnanolone -> More Anxiety, brain fog, stress, etc.
Not forgetting the sexual dysfunction aspect of inhibiting 5AR.
The cells of the corpus cavernosum have androgen receptors, when you agonize these receptors they produce endothelial nitric oxide. NO triggers the relaxation of smooth muscle cells, leading to vasodilation and increased blood flow, which is needed for achieving and maintaining an erection. This can't be replaced with cialis, you need the local AR activation.
The only solution to solve this, is to have high levels of testosterone especially locally in the area of the penis or to use topical DHT/testosterone gels, just to maintain the normal function of the penis.
There is also the mental aspect of the erectile dysfunction. The main role of the sex drive of males consists of the dopamine/oxytocin signalling, which is inhibited by the use of 5ARIs. So in short, 5ARIs result in a reduction of libido.
DHT is important for bone mass, which in the cited study even resulted in an increase of bone mass. DHT is also important for muscle strength.
"We have previously reported that DHT treatment increases bone mass in orchidectomized mice and that this effect is independent of estrogen receptors."
5AR is important for the metabolism of cortisol in the liver according to this study.
Persistent sexual side effects by the way... "Subjects reported new-onset persistent sexual dysfunction associated with the use of finasteride: 94% developed low libido, 92% developed erectile dysfunction, 92% developed decreased arousal, and 69% developed problems with orgasm."
Also ever wondered why most of the Finasteride users like Orc and Clavicular here never experience that many side effects from the 5ARI use? It's because they blast exogenous hormones to the point where the accumulated testosterone compensates for most of the side effects of the lacking DHT.
See? DHT is a vital male hormone, blocking it completely is harmful and has many other harms like discussed in this thread.
Tag list: @halloweed @JohnDoe @Always Stay You @ConfusedBolivian
My friend @20/04/2008 made a really good thread on it, so I will just TLDR it:
DHT is not only the stronger version of Testosterone (2-4 times higher affinity to the androgen receptor), but also binds differently to the AR because of its unique structure.
This means each androgen exerts unique effects, including DHT. So only using Testosterone is not the right solution.
Now to the other uses of the enzyme 5α-reductase: It doesn't only affect the conversion of T to DHT, here are some other reactions:
Cholestenone → 5α-Cholestanone
Progesterone → 5α-Dihydroprogesterone
3α-Dihydroprogesterone → Allopregnanolone
3β-Dihydroprogesterone → Isopregnanolone
Deoxycorticosterone → 5α-Dihydrodeoxycorticosterone
Corticosterone → 5α-Dihydrocorticosterone
Aldosterone → 5α-Dihydroaldosterone
Androstenedione → 5α-Androstanedione
Nandrolone → 5α-Dihydronandrolone
The functions of some of the 5α-reduced steroids are unknown, that's why it isn't a good idea to "just use fin bro because you'll be fine."
Allopregnanolone is an important neurosteroid made from 3α-dihydroprogesterone. Without 5α-reductase on the other hand, this important neurosteroid can't be synthesized.
Progesterone → DHP via 5α-reductase
DHP → Allopregnanolone via 3α-HSD
Allopregnanolone → Positive allosteric modulator of GABA-A receptors
TLDR: No allopregnanolone -> More Anxiety, brain fog, stress, etc.
Not forgetting the sexual dysfunction aspect of inhibiting 5AR.
The cells of the corpus cavernosum have androgen receptors, when you agonize these receptors they produce endothelial nitric oxide. NO triggers the relaxation of smooth muscle cells, leading to vasodilation and increased blood flow, which is needed for achieving and maintaining an erection. This can't be replaced with cialis, you need the local AR activation.
The only solution to solve this, is to have high levels of testosterone especially locally in the area of the penis or to use topical DHT/testosterone gels, just to maintain the normal function of the penis.
There is also the mental aspect of the erectile dysfunction. The main role of the sex drive of males consists of the dopamine/oxytocin signalling, which is inhibited by the use of 5ARIs. So in short, 5ARIs result in a reduction of libido.
DHT is important for bone mass, which in the cited study even resulted in an increase of bone mass. DHT is also important for muscle strength.
"We have previously reported that DHT treatment increases bone mass in orchidectomized mice and that this effect is independent of estrogen receptors."
5AR is important for the metabolism of cortisol in the liver according to this study.
Persistent sexual side effects by the way... "Subjects reported new-onset persistent sexual dysfunction associated with the use of finasteride: 94% developed low libido, 92% developed erectile dysfunction, 92% developed decreased arousal, and 69% developed problems with orgasm."
Also ever wondered why most of the Finasteride users like Orc and Clavicular here never experience that many side effects from the 5ARI use? It's because they blast exogenous hormones to the point where the accumulated testosterone compensates for most of the side effects of the lacking DHT.
See? DHT is a vital male hormone, blocking it completely is harmful and has many other harms like discussed in this thread.
Tag list: @halloweed @JohnDoe @Always Stay You @ConfusedBolivian