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she was evil bitch and she enjoyed cucking me with her bfWhy bro
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she was evil bitch and she enjoyed cucking me with her bfWhy bro
exacty, he fucks stacies left and right. mogs me to oblivionFamous porn actor
Unironically would love to be 5'7.5"-5'8" ish. That's the minimum I need to not feel like shit about myself.5’7.5 hoping to grow
Over if i can’t
No there isn'tKeep going bro ngl, there's light at the end
He has status bro, do you think Devito slays because of any of his features (lol) no its bc statusexacty, he fucks stacies left and right. mogs me to oblivion
usa is ending soon, stick around 10 year u can watchNo there isn't
I won't be around in 10 years. I would have roped long before thenusa is ending soon, stick around 10 year u can watch
roping is retarded ngl, at least go out in a way that you would be in the history booksI won't be around in 10 years. I would have roped long before then
I don't see myself being here either in 2030. Hope I can prove myself wrong.I won't be around in 10 years. I would have roped long before then
ERing isn't the way. I take all the rage and inflict it on myself. It's hard to explain it but I could never hurt another person just because I'm hurt.roping is retarded ngl, at least go out in a way that you would be in the history books
my point is that this is all coming from your perspective, maybe it does happen, but men are notorious for misinterpreting actual iois and reading into shit too much. I've seen you be delusional abt saying your jaw is much better than arvids when that is simply untrue to a very large extent, I wouldn't be surprised if you are then also mistaken about whether women are actually interested you or not.If you want me to show you proof, I'm sorry but that's not actually possible IRL unless I buy hidden spy camera and film the women who check me out without them knowing.
fair enough for this I suppose.I said 7-8 psl because I didn't know what PSL actually meant, I meant 7-8/10, not 7-8 psl, I have corrected myself before.
I'll have to take your friends' and your word on this I suppose but again it's not beyond doubt that they are telling you white lies or that it affects your dating outcomes in ways that you fail to perceive.if I only talked to you in real life, you wouldn't notice, so it doesn't have a negative impact on my success with women. I know because my friends have told me that I talk like a completely different person in real life.
Maybe this is just me but in the pics I have seen you look 24-25ish and not overly babyfaced.Women do check me out but only when they are available and specifically looking for my type, I don't go out often to places where I can find 18 year old women but if I did, I would get checked out more often because they are the women who check me out the most.
In fact, back when I was 20 years old, 16 year old women were attracted to me because they thought I was their age, my baby face is just that powerful which is great because I am kind of behind everyone on my career and college studies so I'll always be around the women who are attracted to me the most, as I get older, I will always be able to date women who are around 4-5 years younger than me.
i dream of ending this world (no edge or emo jfl) tbh, good restraint of uERing isn't the way. I take all the rage and inflict it on myself. It's hard to explain it but I could never hurt another person just because I'm hurt.
I hope you’ll make it bro. It’s a shit-tier height but not a death sentence as all guys mention here. Especially when i wear inserts which i always do jflUnironically would love to be 5'7.5"-5'8" ish. That's the minimum I need to not feel like shit about myself.
It is just you, in the pics I don't look like a 25 year old, I have a baby face, it's easy to see if you compare guys who look more masculine at 20 years old, it's due to their genetics, some look younger when older while others look older while younger. I know a guy who is 20 but looks like he is 25. A lot of times where we compare people of different looks, we forget that very important factor, that a guy who looks like he is 25 or 30 is going to get much more tinder matches than a guy who looks like he is only 18, unless that guy is a Chad.my point is that this is all coming from your perspective, maybe it does happen, but men are notorious for misinterpreting actual iois and reading into shit too much. I've seen you be delusional abt saying your jaw is much better than arvids when that is simply untrue to a very large extent, I wouldn't be surprised if you are then also mistaken about whether women are actually interested you or not.
maybe they are but I am not gonna take your word for it, or the vast majority of anecdotal reports on this forum there is so much bs on here.
fair enough for this I suppose.
I'll have to take your friends' and your word on this I suppose but again it's not beyond doubt that they are telling you white lies or that it affects your dating outcomes in ways that you fail to perceive.
Maybe this is just me but in the pics I have seen you look 24-25ish and not overly babyfaced.
Jfl if you think a single soul is reading any of thisIt is just you, in the pics I don't look like a 25 year old, I have a baby face, it's easy to see if you compare guys who look more masculine at 20 years old, it's due to their genetics, some look younger when older while others look older while younger. I know a guy who is 20 but looks like he is 25. A lot of times where we compare people of different looks, we forget that very important factor, that a guy who looks like he is 25 or 30 is going to get much more tinder matches than a guy who looks like he is only 18, unless that guy is a Chad.
And of course I understand that you need proof, but if I had success with online dating, I wouldn't even be here. And if there wasn't a pandemic I wouldn't be here either. The only reason why I am here on this forum is because due to the pandemic, I can't meet women in real life anymore, it has literally become illegal to do so, I can get a 1000$ fine if I break the social distancing rule.
So, the only thing I can really do right now is focus on my studies, improve my physique by training 3 times per week and eating enough, and I can try to succeed on Tinder which is still going to be very difficult with my current look because for Tinder, being muscular is basically a requirement if you don't have a Chad face.
But I have the DSLR Camera that I need to get top tier quality Tinder photos in only a few days so I should be able to still get some decent level of success. My photos from my rating thread had poor natural lighting because they were taken on a dark cloudy day, the problem when it's sunny though is that it ruins my looks.
So, I bought a reflector stand so I can put my 5-in-1 reflector on it and take the best quality pictures even on a bright sunny day where the sun is high up.
The only days where I won't be able to practice taking pictures is when it will be too dark and/or rainy.
With this new equipment, I am sure that I can get some decent success with Tinder even right now with my current looks, as long as I find the best poses and style to stand out in my pictures, maybe I can even write my height in my photos with photoshop. I have also seen some guys use their big dick to get laid by taking photos in boxers, if I buy tight fitting boxers, I'll be able to do that because I have a big enough dick to do that.
I have my camera since late july but I've stopped practicing for a month because I wasn't able to get the right lighting or angle and had given up but now I am ready to start again and I am sure that it will work this time. I will have to pay for boosts and tinder gold but I will get laid this year I am sure of it. I'll show proof when it does happen. I have gotten some numbers from Tinder before even with my aspie pics, but the girls always ghosted me when I tried setting up a date after a short conversation.
I probably won't but all I need is 2-3cm. From a young age the doctors told me I'll be around 5'8 so I won't rest until I get what I deserveI hope you’ll make it bro. It’s a shit-tier height but not a death sentence as all guys mention here. Especially when i wear inserts which i always do jfl
I'll try to make shorter posts next time.Jfl if you think a single soul is reading any of this
@rightfulcel @Beetlejuice @Squirtoutmabooty
look at this coper
I’m about to end this mans whole careerwhere ur studies
where evidence
It’s definitely more than this.Over 94% of women will reject a man solely for him being too short
stop coping. you're a virgin bud. you are all talk and no action.This is false, there is a huge difference between 5 foot 10 and 6 foot 2 or taller but only when you're in real life.
For online dating, you need to fill out your frame with 30 lbs of muscle mass to look good enough to mog shorter muscular guys.
I know about that because in real life, I get checked out by hot 8/10 18 year old women who should be way out of my league in looks but that is because in my country (Canada), the average female height is 5 foot 4 so at 6 foot 4 I am a full foot taller than the average woman.
I have noticed that I mog even guys who are 5 foot 10 and muscular but only when the woman is actively searching for a very tall guy.
So, I don't get checked out often, because most women aren't looking specifically for my type since I am skinny and I look like I'm 18 even though I'm 22. The only women who check me out are much younger than me, but the benefit of that is that the ones who check me out are often the hottest girls in my class. Meanwhile, the average or below average girls want nothing to do with me.
And on the rare occasion where I see a tall girl, they always check me out because guys like me who are tall, white and healthy are actually very rare where I live since most tall guys are either fat or not white.
When I will be very muscular and ripped though, I will truly be even more attractive than right now, and I should be able to attract the average women too by that point so it'll be much easier to get laid.
The problem with my look however is that it doesn't work for online dating, because when girls see my picture, they don't know what my true height is, maybe I should write it on my first picture to make sure they see it, because most of the time, girls don't read the bio, so I get mogged by muscular manlets that I would easily mog in real life.
Also, most people on this forum have told me that I look average but with a great lower third, this just proves the point of your post, height is one of the strongest halos, and it's even more important than how your face looks if the girls are specifically looking for a very tall guy.
Even when I looked my worst, back before I got my double jaw surgery done, even back then, I was still getting attention from young women but I didn't realize it at the time because I was so insecure about my looks.
I did take action today and I will take action again and again to improve my pictures enough to get pics that are high quality enough to make me succeed on Tinder. I am improving the way that I pose in my pictures. In my rating thread, I looked autistic, but not anymore, now I look good. All I need to do now is replicate those same poses in better lighting with different clothes in different locations and I'll be at my best for Tinder, which will be good enough to get me enough matches to get laid at least once a month but probably more than that while I get muscular at the same time.stop coping. you're a virgin bud. you are all talk and no action.
Everything that I said comes from my own experiences, I don't get as much attention as a Chad, but just because of my amazing height, I can date girls who look above average or greater in the face even though I have a normie face. That is one important benefit of being really tall, and some women will look specifically for a really tall guy and never settle for less than that, I know because I have met such girls and they preferred me than the muscular guys who were hotter but shorter than me.
Has lookism gotten this bluepilled?Here you go ladies and gentleman.
Height is very underestimated on LooksMax.me
Lookism has it right.
Height is 60% of your attractive as a man. 35% is your face and 5% your shoulders' frame width.
(These percentages only works if you are at least 5/10 in looks btw)
I did take action today and I will take action again and again to improve my pictures enough to get pics that are high quality enough to make me succeed on Tinder. I am improving the way that I pose in my pictures. In my rating thread, I looked autistic, but not anymore, now I look good. All I need to do now is replicate those same poses in better lighting with different clothes in different locations and I'll be at my best for Tinder, which will be good enough to get me enough matches to get laid at least once a month but probably more than that while I get muscular at the same time.
Has lookism gotten this bluepilled?
Yea but face is unquestionably>heightWhat is blue pill about saying height is 60% of a man's attractiveness? It's like saying a woman's breasts and ass are 60% of her attractiveness, if not more.
Your height is part of your look. Black pill is about your look. Your appearance. It's very much BlackPill, but you keep looking for what you wanna see. I am not saying don't be obsessed with tongue exercises and posture etc, but also be mindful that your height and shoulders' frame width plays a huge impact. Neck width too and cranium shape.
Are you talking to me or op?Cope. You are misinterpreting the results of the first study. I crunched the numbers a while back and got a different conclusion, I'll write a thread tomorrow
Yea but face is unquestionably>height
Average height hurts much less than average face
Heights more important for success and socially though, but face is still your base
OPAre you talking to me or op?
bro tag me when u write the guideCope. You are misinterpreting the results of the first study. I crunched the numbers a while back and got a different conclusion, I'll write a thread tomorrow
You are 1" taller than me 6' isn't tall Fell happy to mog 5'4" mexicanas in Texas you redneck. But never vist Europe or you will feel averageYou need to tag germania so he can debunk your thread with his flawless logic.
Heightcels need to appreciate their underrated height jflIt was over right at this nanosecond.
I will prefix this post by saying that it's over and it never begin.
WIth that out of the way, let's start.
WHY HEIGHT IS EVERYTHING, BY YOUNGMAXXING.
Table of Contents
1st, Height Impact in Dating
2nd, Height Impact in Life
3rd, What Women Think of Short Men
Let's begin.
Height, as anyone with half a brain knows, is everything.
All credits to incel.wiki :
Stulp et al (2013) used a sample of 5782 North American speed-daters making 128,104 choices to determine preferences for partner height and how height influenced the formation of a match. They found that women were most likely to choose a speed-dater 25 cm taller than themselves, whereas men were most likely to choose women only 7 cm shorter than themselves. As a consequence, matches were most likely at an intermediate height difference (19 cm) that differed significantly from the preferred height difference of both sexes.
Their data can be further analyzed to provide data about women's height cutoffs, the benefit of each inch of height for a man, and the degree of competition each man faces based on his height.
1) Cutoffs:
Their findings demonstrated the cutoffs at which women consider a man too short or too tall:
90% of women will reject a man who is 5'4" based solely on his height.
65% of women will reject a man who is 5'7" based solely on his height.
50% of women will reject a man who is 5'8" based solely on his height.
14% of women will reject a man who is 5'10" based solely on his height.
1.5% of women will reject a man who is 6' based solely on his height.
Past 6'2", women begin to increase rejections of men for being too tall.
30% of women believe there is no such thing as a man being "too tall."
Over 94% of women will reject a man solely for him being too short.
Read through this. This is one of the thousand studies that prove height is everything for women.
2) Every Inch Counts:
Further analysis of their data demonstrates the importance of every inch of height for men, as two inches of height gain for a man can be found to have the following results:
A man in the 5'4-5'6" range will have more than double the potential number of female partners with 2" height gain.
A 5'4" man will have 2.3 times as many potential female partners by gaining 2" height.
A 5'7" man will have 1.86 times as many potential female partners by gaining 2" height.
Benefits become insignificant past 5'10".
Below 5'1" a 2" height gain also makes an insignificant difference, as even after 2" gain, a man at this height is still "too short" for most women to consider.
Brutal stuff.
3) Competition:
Because the few women who are willing to date a shorter men are also generally willing to date a taller man as well, the competition for women willing to date shorter men becomes extremely high. This means:
A 5' man must "beat" over 12 men (most of whom will be taller) to get a girl accepting of his height.
A 5'4" man will have to "beat" over 7 other men (most of whom will be taller) to get a girl accepting of his height.
5'10 to 6'4" men have the least competition as the demand for these men outpaces their supply, and statistically overall women must compete for these men rather than vice versa.
Men who are short must endlessly jester and compete for woman, as well as being able to beat up other men.
Alright, we have analyzed this study enough. Let us continue to the next. Again, all credits to the brocels at incel.wiki.
Stulp et al. (2013) conducted another study regarding the preferences for height in a romantic partner of (N = 693) mainly ethnic Dutch and German university students. The were asked a series of questions regarding their preferences in regards to the height of a potential partner, which was broken in three categories, minimally acceptable, ideal and maximally acceptable.
There was also queried as to their current relationship status, and if they were currently in a relationship, their partners height. Finally they were asked to indicate their level of satisfaction with their own height, on a 100 point scale.
It was found that an individual's height correlated significantly with preferred height in both sexes, with the taller men generally preferring much shorter women and the shorter women preferring much taller men. Shorter men and taller women both tended to prefer smaller height differences.
The researchers analyzed the data of the participants in relationships and found that women were most satisfied with their partner's heights when they were 8.24 inches (20.93 cm) taller them themselves, with men being the most satisfied with a partner 3.25 inches shorter (8.26 cm). Partner height was much more important for explaining partner satisfaction for women then men, by more then four times the variance.
It was also discovered that there was a curvilinear relation with men's heights and their self-reported satisfaction with their height, with the men that were 6' 4.5 inches tall (193.73 cm) being the most satisfied with their heights.
Thus, it was found that women and men disagreed on the 'ideal' height difference between partners in heterosexual relationships. Women desired taller men much more then men desired shorter women, women were far more restrictive with their minimum height requirements, and there existed a greater consensus among women as to the preferred height of a male partner. Lastly, it was shown that shorter women had some of the strongest preferences for very tall men, thus further limiting the partnership options for short men.
Quotes:
Men were most satisfied when their partner was slightly shorter than themselves, whereas women were most satisfied when their partner was much taller than themselves.
Women were much more restrictive in their range of acceptable heights compared to men. That is, women were more likely to rule out certain heights as completely unacceptable.
The increased satisfaction with their own height among taller men is also in line with studies indicating that tall men have higher self-esteem, display less jealousy towards other men, and display higher levels of subjective well-being.
In essence, tall is good, short is bad.
Have you taken the HeightandDatingPill?
Not yet?
TIme for the most brutal of all.
Mueller & Muzur (2001) examined survey data derived from surviving graduates of the class of 1950 of the United States Military Academy at West Point, that provided family and marriage information. These data were merged with measures of academic, career, athletic and social performance while at the academy.
In the 1950s West Point followed the practice of assigning cadets to companies according to their height; so they could present a uniform presence on the parade grounds, thus data pertaining to the cadet's heights could be discovered, with the Academy sorting cadets into 12 separate groups, depending on their heights. The 'facial dominance' of the cadets was also measured and collected, judging by yearbook photos.
It was found that taller cadets subsequently had a greater number of marriages, a younger second wife if remarried after a divorce, and an overall greater number of children. The researchers found no evidence that the cadets being subsequently married to more fertile women explained this discrepancy.
It was also found that cadet's heights had no effect on their future economic success (a finding that the researchers noted was unusual), therefore, the greater economic success that taller men generally experience didn't explain their greater reproductive success.
Other studies have also confirmed these findings (Pawlowski et al. 2000). There is also evidence that taller men are more likely to have long term mating partners and to have more partners than shorter men (Nettle, 2002).
Quotes:
Taller men had more reproductive opportunities (more marriages, younger second wives) and used them to have more children than shorter men. The chances of survival into adulthood of taller men’s children were not lower.
The positive effect of height on reproductive performance was not mediated by men’s social status, i.e., their military rank, or by the measures of academic, athletic, and military talent which helped in gaining high status.
Thus, selection seemingly follows most closely a “horse race” model, with a few winners taking most of the prize, measured in fitness differentials. Discerning no fitness disadvantage to tallness, we are left with the possibility of unconstrained directional sexual selection in favor of ever increasing male height within the observed phenotype range.
You will, in essence, never breed. All because of a few inch of height.
Now, let's begin the 2nd section - Height Impact in Life.
BodyLogicMD, a network of physician-owned medical practices, performed a survey of 1,105 Americans using Amazon's Mechanical Turk platform. Their goal was to explore emotional impacts of height, including implications for romantic prospects and self-esteem.
Evidence is discussed showing that increased male height provides professional advantages, including higher pay and better odds of career advancement, and an edge in matters of romance. Disadvantages of increased height are described by their review as including higher rates of medical issues like cancers and blood clots.
Primary findings of their survey on height's impact were:
Both men and women said the ideal male height is 6' tall (i.e. Taller than 82.1% of men in America).
Taller men reported they felt they were funnier, more desirable, more confident, more attractive, and more satisfied with their sex lives than shorter men.
As an example, 69.2% of taller men felt they were attractive to potential partners, compared to 51.8% of shorter men.
Short height was associated with feelings of being less masculine—48% of men under 5'5" felt less masculine due to their height.
Taller men were significantly more likely to feel they were successful in their careers and make the salaries they deserved.
In investigating perspectives on height enhancement surgeries, which are usually reserved to cases of medical deformity and carry risks of limb loss, permanent disability, and death:
60% of men overall wished they were taller.
21.1% of men under 5'9" had actively researched ways to become taller.
23.9% of men under 5'9" said they would surgically alter their height if possible to become taller.
On average, men wanting to be taller would pay 30.9% of their life savings to do so.
The study also confirmed that men were far more flexible about the heights of their potential partners than women. Women were 9.3x more likely to wish their partner was taller than to wish he was shorter. Specifically, 36.2% of women wished their partner was taller than he was, while only 3.9% of women wished their partner was shorter than he was.
To calculate your own height percentile, use the following calculator: https://tall.life/height-percentile-calculator-age-country/
Quotes:
At all heights, men were considerably less picky about the stature of their potential lovers.
More than three-quarters of short, average, and tall men said they'd give dating someone taller a try.
Started off with brutal one. This also relates to height, but it has some correlation with your life quality - it's absolutely brutal to be short. Many would rather die to be tall then live another day short, keek.
www.forbes.com/sites/traversmark/2020/04/16/your-height-has-a-big-impact-on-your-salary-new-research-seeks-to-understand-why/amp/
Brutality above, by a normie paper as well.
Here's some more I found :
Why tall people make more money - CNN.com
As if the vertically-challenged don't have to deal with enough (what with hemming pant legs, straining to peer over people at concerts, and struggling to reach the top shelf at grocery stores), it turns out taller people are better compensated than their shorter colleagues.edition.cnn.com
Archived CNN article.
amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/393518/
www.livescience.com/amp/5552-taller-people-earn-money.html
Do Tall Men Make More Money Than Short Men? % %
You've heard that taller men earn more than shorter men, but is it true? And if it is, what can shorter men do about it?www.themodestman.com
All good reading. And backs my earlier point.
Now let's get to the final and most BRUTAL of all - what do women think of short men?
This is what women, and society, thinks of them.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Diamond_London/status/554752344009998337
https://mobile.twitter.com/jg9325/status/530990917986316288
https://mobile.twitter.com/Randd3rz_/status/490617087593684992
https://mobile.twitter.com/JeremyCandelas/status/491741384194273280
https://mobile.twitter.com/deathcab420/status/383763328054464513
It's over.
So fucking trueHeightcels need to appreciate their underrated height jfl
Face can be easily fixed (to an extent for some)compared to fucking height
5'9 here
ded srs I hate tallSo fucking true
Benefits become insignificant past 5'10".
5'10 to 6'4" men have the least competition as the demand for these men outpaces their supply, and statistically overall women must compete for these men rather than vice versa.
Sometimes height is holding you back from even trying with girls. How can you get the confidence in a club to approach girls when you're sober and see that many guys are taller than you, which is the case at 5'11. What are you going to do when a 6'4 whiteknight shows up?true
i lol at guys on here who are 5'11 and say "it's my height" like dude no. being 6'1 might help u get more women than you are now, but if you're getting nothing at 5'11 you won't suddenly become with an extra 2"