Why Surgeons Never Get Surgeries?

[randomvanish]

I don't get why exactly they look like shit all the time. Look at ramieri or coceancig for example. Just get BIMAX for ffs. Why they never do ?

 

[Deleted member 18361]

jam packed schedule

c said if he was younger, he’d get custom bimax and custom peek implants

 

[andy9432]

they are content with being betabuxers

 

[Artemis]

I don't get why exactly they look like shit all the time. Look at ramieri or coceancig for example. Just get BIMAX for ffs. Why they never do ?

Because they are clever, and know that

MONEY >>> LOOKS

Have money, and all the roads are open. Be it societal approval, life experiences, or women.

Also, some surgeons DO have surgeries themselves. E.g. Niamtu has cheek implants. But IMO at that point, it is already about ego, not the benefits that looks give, since they already have everything needed

 

[randomvanish]

Because they are clever, and know that

MONEY >>> LOOKS

Have money, and all the roads are open. Be it societal approval, life experiences, or women.

Also, some surgeons DO have surgeries themselves. E.g. Niamtu has cheek implants.

why you think it's like a trade off? you can have BOTH. it's freely accesible.

 

[6ft4]

I've also wondered about this, especially when they have a midface or lower third that could benefit
I have a feeling Rami looks good irl in motion, he has decent harmony in videos but he's failoed by small neck/frame

@Gaia262

How does he look in person?

 

[stevielake]

why you think it's like a trade off? you can have BOTH. it's freely accesible.

People on this forum cope with 'money doesn't matter' because they're too low-iq to grasp basic economics to moneymaxx

Being a wealthy chad is the closest thing to a God.

 

[Artemis]

why you think it's like a trade off? you can have BOTH. it's freely accesible.

I wouldn't say so. As you know, most surgeries that people need have long recovery periods, and associated risks.

For example, even something minor like cheek implants, can cause 3 months of swelling. And more serious stuff like Bimax can cause disfigurement or nerve damage, or many other sides. Surgeons themselves know about all this stuff, and their risk-benefit analysis probably prohibits them from undertaking the procedures themselves.

Also, no surgeon can operate on themselves. Thus, they need to trust the "other guy". Which means a BIG hit to their ego as the "best surgeon". Srsly, if i were e.g. Epply, I would probably rather eat shit than to go for cheek implants to Yaremchuk

 

[beachdude123]

Because they are clever, and know that

MONEY >>> LOOKS

Have money, and all the roads are open. Be it societal approval, life experiences, or women.

Also, some surgeons DO have surgeries themselves. E.g. Niamtu has cheek implants. But IMO at that point, it is already about ego, not the benefits that looks give, since they already have everything needed

attracting women from money is not even close to being the same thing as attracting a woman with looks. Genuine desire is completely different than gold digging

 

[6ft4]

Or maybe they've operated on enough mentalcel patients to know that on average the aesthetic benefit from surgery will be minimal for someone with a proper occlusion that isn't giga recessed

Every time a surgery result of someone who's 40+ is posted here, even if they ascend by a point everyone will say they look like shit in the after because it wasn't enough to take their looks into the realm where the can compete for 20 year old pussy

 

[beachdude123]

People on this forum cope with 'money doesn't matter' because they're too low-iq to grasp basic economics to moneymaxx

Being a wealthy chad is the closest thing to a God.

Money is good yes but it can't make u chad that's the thing. People talk shit on money copers here because sub 5 idiots thing money can make up for all their problems when in reality you can be rich asf and the best thing you will end up with is a pretty gold digger who fucks chad while ur busy working. Money will never create desire in YOU only what you have

 

[randomvanish]

Also, no surgeon can operate on themselves. Thus, they need to trust the "other guy". Which means a BIG hit to their ego as the "best surgeon". Srsly, if i were e.g. Epply, I would probably rather eat shit than to go for cheek implants to Yaremchuk

this sounds legit

 

[Artemis]

attracting women from money is not even close to being the same thing as attracting a woman with looks. Genuine desire is completely different than gold digging

Sry man, no offence, this is childish thinking. You become 30+, you understand.

It does not matter how you attract, as long as she does this:

 

[Artemis]

in reality you can be rich asf and the best thing you will end up with is a pretty gold digger who fucks chad while ur busy working. Money will never create desire in YOU only what you have

You sound like it is something bad...

What is even this mythical "desire"? For the whole course of human history, there was NO LOVE. It is literally an invention of modern feminist times. In the past love was this, and this is how 99% males reproduced:

 

[Racky]

I don't get why exactly they look like shit all the time. Look at ramieri or coceancig for example. Just get BIMAX for ffs. Why they never do ?

Most of them are old men who spent like a decade studying to have a lucrative career.
What's the point now?
They know enough to not be delusional enough to think this :

Can ascend with "just get bimax bro!"

 

[randomvanish]

Most of them are old men who spent like a decade studying to have a lucrative career.
What's the point now?
They know enough to not be delusional enough to think this :
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Can ascend with "just get bimax bro!"

well, not now maybe. younger ones don't get too. stop cherrypicking

 

[Artemis]

Most of them are old men who spent like a decade studying to have a lucrative career.
What's the point now?
They know enough to not be delusional enough to think this :
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Can ascend with "just get bimax bro!"

Yep one more reason. I think in 90% cases, to achieve ideal results, "just doing bimax" is not enough, you need like 5-10 procedure in succession, with probably years of recuperation.

 

[Racky]

well, not now maybe. younger ones don't get too. stop cherrypicking

When was the last time you saw a 20 years old plastic surgeon?
Most of them are old because it takes a good decade of studying to become a plastic surgeon. And more to become a good, recognized one. You don't become a plastic surgeon in one night.
They probably didn't have much money when they were studying, and were too focused on their studies to think about investing in expensive surgeries for themselves. Then after getting a lucrative career, it was just too late to bother, they are old men.

 

[Gandy]

My local PS is actually a pretty looksmaxed guy in his early 40s. Also knows about RTT (has full sleeve tats as well). Very competent guy.

Not every plastic surgeon is a balding oldcel. But those balding old guys are often some of the best surgeons in the field. They just choose not to invest in their own looks. Probably knowing the futility of doing so at an age like 57.

Looksmaxing is a young mans game. You want to look good when it matters which is between ages 15-40 or so. You get rapidly diminishing returns at ages like 45, 50+. Very few people have Tom Cruises aging genetics. It just doesn't pay off to get plastic surgery for most guys who are age 62. They will never be seen as attractive anymore anyway.

Hell, young people are already mocking Brad Pitt for his new skincare line on YouTube comments because he looks so old.

Life is over in some ways after you lose all your neoteny and youthfulness. It simply doesn't pay off to get aesthetic surgery after that point. You may as well focus on money, career or blast steroids to get size instead of looking good.

Please, stop forgetting that human life is very short and the sexual prime of humans is very short (for women laughably short, for men, just a couple decades). You need to get surgery when you are in your prime. What point is there trying to reverse the clock when you're a decade or two away from death?

 

[Rich giù]

Sry man, no offence, this is childish thinking. You become 30+, you understand.

It does not matter how you attract, as long as she does this:

I'm over 30 and I don't agree

Probably, Ramieri's contact with women is all a kind of "pay and take", which, even at his age( I don't know, but he looks well into his 40s), is, at least in my opinion, very humiliating towards himself

He can have sex, as long as he provides, just the same as we could get a lot of sex paying pros instead of paying surgeons
It's not the point
We are talking about genuine desire, which, trust me, is not as much a matter of money as a matter of look, even at his age

To me, they just don't give a fuck, they take the money and they live, aware that they are physically uglier than the average man

 

[latincell95]

I don't get why exactly they look like shit all the time. Look at ramieri or coceancig for example. Just get BIMAX for ffs. Why they never do ?

Plastic surgeons make so much money that they have a harem of GIGAStacy escorts a phone call away. They're literally the equivalent of a gigachad, moneywise.

 

[beachdude123]

You sound like it is something bad...

What is even this mythical "desire"? For the whole course of human history, there was NO LOVE. It is literally an invention of modern feminist times. In the past love was this, and this is how 99% males reproduced:

True I might be chadsplaining. Having a hot gold digger wife might be the best thing a sub5 can do since they will never have the option of having a woman that thirsts over them. It also requires them to make wayy more money than the average man and that's easier said than done

 

[Gandy]

I'm over 30 and I don't agree

Probably, Ramieri's contact with women is all a kind of "pay and take", which, even at his age( I don't know, but he looks well into his 40s), is, at least in my opinion, very humiliating towards himself

He can have sex, as long as he provides, just the same as we could get a lot of sex paying pros instead of paying surgeons
It's not the point
We are talking about genuine desire, which, trust me, is not as much a matter of money as a matter of look, even at his age

To me, they just don't give a fuck, they take the money and they live, aware that they are physically uglier than the average man

Ramieri is 48, he is not going to get any more one night stands with looks anyway (if he ever had any to begin with, he is not very good looking). The few women his age who are divorced or single and engage in ONS are doing that with 30-somethings who still have looks.

He can just exchange the 100s of thousands of euros he gets from maxillofacial surgery for female companionship and not lose sleep over it.

No it's not genuine desire, but it beats the life of an average wageslave his age whose wife probably hasn't touched their beer bellied 48 year husband in years.

 

[latincell95]

You sound like it is something bad...

What is even this mythical "desire"? For the whole course of human history, there was NO LOVE. It is literally an invention of modern feminist times. In the past love was this, and this is how 99% males reproduced:

This!! Bitches never had true desire for males. You generated desire by raping the living shit out of her and then killing the men from her tribe and everyone else. Now you generate desire by having above average looks, lots of money, status.

 

[randomvanish]

Ramieri is 48, he is not going to get one night stands with looks anyway. The few women his age who are divorced or single and engage in ONS are doing that with 30-somethings who still have looks.

I know an old chadlite (or maybe chad) veterinarian and constantly having ONS with 20s,30s. Old chads/chadlites also desirable for ONS. Daddy issues I guess.

 

[Gandy]

I know an old chadlite (or maybe chad) veterinarian and constantly having ONS with 20s,30s. Old chads/chadlites also desirable for ONS. Daddy issues I guess.

True, not denying it can't happen. Some rare guys like Dolph Lundgren could get those without his money at age 50+. But as you noted - it requires the person was good looking to begin with. Plastic surgery will never yield those results for average 50+ year olds.

(This is him at age 55 in 2013 - insane aging genetics.)

 

[randomvanish]

This!! Bitches never had true desire for males. You generated desire by raping the living shit out of her and then killing the men from her tribe and everyone else. Now you generate desire by having above average looks, lots of money, status.

quite ignorant take on evolutionary physcology. there is a reason why chads are chads, why some ratios found attractive. not easy like you describe, stop coping.

 

[Rich giù]

My local PS is actually a pretty looksmaxed guy in his early 40s. Also knows about RTT (has full sleeve tats as well). Very competent guy.

Not every plastic surgeon is a balding oldcel. But those balding old guys are often some of the best surgeons in the field. They just choose not to invest in their own looks. Probably knowing the futility of doing so at an age like 57.

Looksmaxing is a young mans game. You want to look good when it matters which is between ages 15-40 or so. You get rapidly diminishing returns at ages like 45, 50+. Very few people have Tom Cruises aging genetics. It just doesn't pay off to get plastic surgery for most guys who are age 62. They will never be seen as attractive anymore anyway.

Hell, young people are already mocking Brad Pitt for his new skincare line on YouTube comments because he looks so old.

Life is over in some ways after you lose all your neoteny and youthfulness. It simply doesn't pay off to get aesthetic surgery after that point. You may as well focus on money, career or blast steroids to get size instead of looking good.

I went to many surgeons in Italy, all in Rome

TRUST ME, I OVERHEARD TWO HOT NURSES SAYING THAT PAGNONI IS BEAUTIFUL

And Pagnoni, I think u know his name, is, in real, a very hot tall man
He has a nice and pretty masculine face, harmony, and a smart look
It's everything you need here

I was asked at the reception of the clinic which doctor I was waiting for and I said Pagnoni( I did genio, infra implants and browlift, it'off topic now anyway)
One nurse asked the other "who is pagnoni" and the other answered "the one TALL AND BEAUTIFUL" ahahahah
They were bha 25 yo at or something like that

I think Pagnoni was a chad, maybe even now he is

In real, another very hot is Michele Pascali
Take a lokk at his Instagram
He is 170 cm, so a bit short, but makes it up for it with masculine body, top physique and a nice, harmonic face

When I was talking to him about my nose, he was very redpilled
He said himself two times like " Beauty is everything in life" and " In real life all you have to do is being beautiful"
And he is, I mean, at least for italy he is hot enough, probably is still chad

Ramieri is ugly I don't know why he doesn't get surgery

Marianetti had a nose job 2 years ago I remember, he needs bimax and implants though

 

[latincell95]

there is a reason why chads are chads,

Yes, I just told you the reason. Primitive Chads raped the living shit out of foids and then killed the rest of the tribe/children included. No looksmaxxing needed.

Imagine looking like that and raping a hairy blonde Stacy foid.

The reason we need to looksmaxx is to appeal to female's beauty standards, not masculine beauty standards since we no longer live in primitive society.

 

[Rich giù]

Plastic surgeons make so much money that they have a harem of GIGAStacy escorts a phone call away. They're literally the equivalent of a gigachad, moneywise.

Escorts sucks

 

[Deleted member 18361]

maybe go with a surgeon who’s had work done on themselves like antipov and his jaw angle implants

 

[latincell95]

Escorts sucks

It was just an example. When you have "plastic surgeon" money and all those credentials backing you up, you can literally either a) marry/betabuxx one of your "attractive clientele" or b) geomaxx and get any women of your dreams.

 

[beachdude123]

Sry man, no offence, this is childish thinking. You become 30+, you understand.

It does not matter how you attract, as long as she does this:

It's not childish thinking it's just chad thinking. I understand if you're sub 5 or just normie and not able to attract women who desire your appearance then making money is your only option (if you can even make a lot which isn't guaranteed whatsoever)

You know lots of rich ugly/average men with gold digging Stacy wives will get cheated on because the Stacy doesn't give a shit about fucking the sub 5 she just wants his lifestyle while she is probably fucking chad whenever he's away working.

Do you seriously think a Stacy is going to be sexually satisfied with a below average/sub 5 man? You are coping if you think so. The sex life will ultimately suffer if she is not attracted to you and she will get what she wants from somebody else

 

[Rich giù]

True I might be chadsplaining. Having a hot gold digger wife might be the best thing a sub5 can do since they will never have the option of having a woman that thirsts over them. It also requires them to make wayy more money than the average man and that's easier said than done

Yes but u have to get the hot wife in 3rd world countries

I mean, it's not easy here to get married only because of the money you make, you literally need millions(there are many millionaires, if u are very ugly u need to make up for and be at the same level) and be careful because you know that you have an enemy in your home, it's not easy, many man ended up in bankrupt because of that
Those kind of women only look for the money and they are expert at taking it, for someone like the typical incel, with poor lofe experiences, it's very dangerous

 

[ReadBooksEveryday]

They already have a wife, a social life and their priorities set

This is one of the classic low incel sentience questions that pop up every now and then

Why would a well settled, super rich guy want to get custom jaw angle implants at the age of 56 when he's happily married, has 3-4 kids and lives in a nice area. He's not a 20 something narcy guy lookin to strike in the clubs, or on reddit simping for onlyfan chicks

Y'all need to use your brains a bit tbh. Its not that complicated to see priorities change in life.

 

[Deprived]

I've also wondered about this, especially when they have a midface or lower third that could benefit
I have a feeling Rami looks good irl in motion, he has decent harmony in videos but he's failoed by small neck/frame

@Gaia262

How does he look in person?

He’s easily the best looking surgeon I’ve seen

 

[Deleted member 22639]

I don't get why exactly they look like shit all the time. Look at ramieri or coceancig for example. Just get BIMAX for ffs. Why they never do ?

Thanks for asking this… idk if there is a clear answer, I guess it’s a career path for them rather than coming from a personal looks focus

 

[Deleted member 7725]

maybe go with a surgeon who’s had work done on themselves like antipov and his jaw angle implants

How do you know he got them?

 

[randomvanish]

How do you know he got them?

demand xray from them before consultation

 

[Deleted member 18361]

How do you know he got them?

ive talked to him before

 

[datboijj]

True, not denying it can't happen. Some rare guys like Dolph Lundgren could get those without his money at age 50+. But as you noted - it requires the person was good looking to begin with. Plastic surgery will never yield those results for average 50+ year olds.

(This is him at age 55 in 2013 - insane aging genetics.)

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looks old as shit
this cope of "big bones = age better"
is the funniest cope
i know old bone moggers, who still look old as shit
you guys are retarded

 

[dough]

You either slay by looks or become extremely successful like surgeons

They made it in life and don't need looks to slay

 

[LightSkinNoob]

They already get women, the have wives, if I could get a gf I wouldn’t even think about surgery

 

[Deleted member 7725]

ive talked to him before

What material are they?

 

[Lorsss]

I don't get why exactly they look like shit all the time. Look at ramieri or coceancig for example. Just get BIMAX for ffs. Why they never do ?

the cobbler who goes out with broken shoes

 

[Foreverbrad]

By the time they're rich famous surgeons they're too old for it to matter.

 

[Swole bravo]

I wouldn't say so. As you know, most surgeries that people need have long recovery periods, and associated risks.

For example, even something minor like cheek implants, can cause 3 months of swelling. And more serious stuff like Bimax can cause disfigurement or nerve damage, or many other sides. Surgeons themselves know about all this stuff, and their risk-benefit analysis probably prohibits them from undertaking the procedures themselves.

Also, no surgeon can operate on themselves. Thus, they need to trust the "other guy". Which means a BIG hit to their ego as the "best surgeon". Srsly, if i were e.g. Epply, I would probably rather eat shit than to go for cheek implants to Yaremchuk

All very true. But the 60-70% swelling from cheek implants usually Dissipate within the first 10 days. People won’t notice after this. More invasive Surgeries is where you’re looking super swollen for months.

 

[Artemis]

Marianetti had a nose job 2 years ago I remember, he needs bimax and implants though

i want a rhino with Marianetti.

Can you tell me which surgeon Marianetti went to? we need to go deeper...

 

[Artemis]

looks old as shit
this cope of "big bones = age better"
is the funniest cope
i know old bone moggers, who still look old as shit
you guys are retarded

Sry man, i bet a 100, if he comes into a party, he takes your girl, despite him being 55 and you in 20s.

 

[Artemis]

They already get women, the have wives, if I could get a gf I wouldn’t even think about surgery

TBH, i think many people still would...

... narcissism IS a thing...