Discussion Why won't any surgeons do Lefort 2 for cosmetic reasons.

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I keep hearing that surgeons only seem to do Lefort 1 for patients seeking cosmetic changes, and that Lefort 2 is reserved for severely deformed people. What makes this surgery so risky?

I hear a rumour that Dr. A would do Lefort 2, does anyone know what the price of this would be?
 
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I keep hearing that surgeons only seem to do Lefort 1 for patients seeking cosmetic changes, and that Lefort 2 is reserved for severely deformed people. What makes this surgery so risky?

I hear a rumour that Dr. A would do Lefort 2, does anyone know what the price of this would be?
Brain exposing surgery and all it entices. You can get blind from the eyes getting exposed, you can get meningitis and brain damage, 5 percent death rate compared to 0.5% on Lefort 1.
 
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they don't want the risk, it's as simple as that
 
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if your face is deformed enough to need Le Fort 2 me personally, I would just kill myself at that point ngl 99.99% of people do not need it and its too risky anyway with a high death rate

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if your face is deformed enough to need Le Fort 2 me personally, I would just kill myself at that point ngl 99.99% of people do not need it and its too risky anyway with a high death rate

Le Fort II Distraction With Zygomatic Repositioning: A Technique for Differential Correction of ...
I need it bro
 

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Brain exposing surgery and all it entices. You can get blind from the eyes getting exposed, you can get meningitis and brain damage, 5 percent death rate compared to 0.5% on Lefort 1.
There's actually a 5% death rate? Fuck that lol.
 
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he pulled that statistic out his ass, there’s no fucking way
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Le Fort I, II, and III fractures had mortality rates of 0%, 4.5%, and 8.7%, respectively and Le Fort II fractures were associated with a 1.94-fold increased mortality risk when compared to simple facial fractures [21]
 
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Le Fort I, II, and III fractures had mortality rates of 0%, 4.5%, and 8.7%, respectively and Le Fort II fractures were associated with a 1.94-fold increased mortality risk when compared to simple facial fractures [21]
When was this study?
 
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if your face is deformed enough to need Le Fort 2 me personally, I would just kill myself at that point ngl 99.99% of people do not need it and its too risky anyway with a high death rate

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Le Fort I, II, and III fractures had mortality rates of 0%, 4.5%, and 8.7%, respectively and Le Fort II fractures were associated with a 1.94-fold increased mortality risk when compared to simple facial fractures [21]
Trauma not osteotomy
 
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Its too dangerous
You're better off getting Paranasal implants + nose bridge augmentation
 
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Le Fort I, II, and III fractures had mortality rates of 0%, 4.5%, and 8.7%, respectively and Le Fort II fractures were associated with a 1.94-fold increased mortality risk when compared to simple facial fractures [21]
Jesus Christ why would anyone do lefort 2
 
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I highly doubt plastic surgeons get asked about Le Fort 2 on a regular basis TBH. People forget about how much of a minority people in the PSL-sphere are.
 
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I keep hearing that surgeons only seem to do Lefort 1 for patients seeking cosmetic changes, and that Lefort 2 is reserved for severely deformed people. What makes this surgery so risky?

I hear a rumour that Dr. A would do Lefort 2, does anyone know what the price of this would be?
If a doctor won’t do it please listen.
If doctors turn you down also please listen.

I am botched from implanting my entire skull and it ruined me. So many doctors refused to operate on me originally and of course I ignored them and kept going emailing hundreds until one said ok. Massive mistake.
 
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If a doctor won’t do it please listen.
If doctors turn you down also please listen.

I am botched from implanting my entire skull and it ruined me. So many doctors refused to operate on me originally and of course I ignored them and kept going emailing hundreds until one said ok. Massive mistake.
skull implant? sounds vased
 
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skull implant? sounds vased
Every feature on my skull

Brow forehead temples all malar area paranasal jaws and 2 genioplasties. Just terrible idea. I’m so sorry I did this to myself.

And the worst is I can’t remove the implants. They are large and the soft tissues are now stretched. So I have to live with it
 
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Every feature on my skull

Brow forehead temples all malar area paranasal jaws and 2 genioplasties. Just terrible idea. I’m so sorry I did this to myself.

And the worst is I can’t remove the implants. They are large and the soft tissues are now stretched. So I have to live with it
why did you go so OTT
 
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I thought I could create the perfect look. And all would be needed. I was wrong. And I am paying the price
sorry to hear that bro, don't let 'perfect' be the enemy of 'good'
 
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sorry to hear that bro, don't let 'perfect' be the enemy of 'good'
Thanks.
Yes. Simple things would always be better. Best is accept and do nothing. Second, softmaxing and not get obsessed. Honestly I wouldn’t recommend any surgeries at all even simple. The changes will not be very noticeable in most cases at best
 
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Asked Dr z about Lefort 2. He said it makes midface look weird.
 
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Le Fort I, II, and III fractures had mortality rates of 0%, 4.5%, and 8.7%, respectively and Le Fort II fractures were associated with a 1.94-fold increased mortality risk when compared to simple facial fractures [21]
"FRACTURES", how did you not catch that LOL. That study has nothing to do with Le Fort advancement
 
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What you need is lefort 2 osteotomy not lefort 2 fracture
 
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What you need is lefort 2 osteotomy not lefort 2 fracture
Pretty sure that when you get a lefort 2 surgery the process of them cutting the bone is considered a lefort 2 'fracture'. Fracture is just a technical term rather than what laymans deem as a fracture (i.e. an injury of some kind)
 
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Pretty sure that when you get a lefort 2 surgery the process of them cutting the bone is considered a lefort 2 'fracture'. Fracture is just a technical term rather than what laymans deem as a fracture (i.e. an injury of some kind)

Lefort 2 fracture = accident like your face getting hit by a car or car run through your face causing the fracture that's dead rate is so high

Lefort 2 osteotomy = lefort 2 with planned movement, controlled environment
 
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Lefort 2 fracture = accident like your face getting hit by a car or car run through your face causing the fracture that's dead rate is so high

Lefort 2 osteotomy = lefort 2 with planned movement, controlled environment
this may be true, but there must be a reason surgeons refuse to perform it. If they could sell lefort 2 at a premium they would
 
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this may be true, but there must be a reason surgeons refuse to perform it. If they could sell lefort 2 at a premium they would

It's very easy, high risk surgery, especially lefort 2, is more risky then lefort 3, due to the cut being more near optic nerve
 

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