Why won't any surgeons do Lefort 2 for cosmetic reasons.

[Deleted member 20914]

I keep hearing that surgeons only seem to do Lefort 1 for patients seeking cosmetic changes, and that Lefort 2 is reserved for severely deformed people. What makes this surgery so risky?

I hear a rumour that Dr. A would do Lefort 2, does anyone know what the price of this would be?

 

[HerpDerpson]

I keep hearing that surgeons only seem to do Lefort 1 for patients seeking cosmetic changes, and that Lefort 2 is reserved for severely deformed people. What makes this surgery so risky?

I hear a rumour that Dr. A would do Lefort 2, does anyone know what the price of this would be?

Brain exposing surgery and all it entices. You can get blind from the eyes getting exposed, you can get meningitis and brain damage, 5 percent death rate compared to 0.5% on Lefort 1.

 

[Deleted member 20914]

Brain exposing surgery and all it entices. You can get blind from the eyes getting exposed, you can get meningitis and brain damage, 5 percent death rate compared to 0.5% on Lefort 1.

How about high-cut lefort? does this expose the brain. Do you know is ramieri provides this

 

[Stopping@Nothing19]

they don't want the risk, it's as simple as that

 

[jaw_is_law]

if your face is deformed enough to need Le Fort 2 me personally, I would just kill myself at that point ngl 99.99% of people do not need it and its too risky anyway with a high death rate

 

[HerpDerpson]

if your face is deformed enough to need Le Fort 2 me personally, I would just kill myself

That's a bit harsh when almost all Asian people need it.

 

[Adonis]

Find a 3rd world backyard surgeon, they do everything jfl

 

[RecessedChinCel]

That's a bit harsh when almost all Asian people need it.
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Tbh at that point just get paranasal implants or fat grafting.

Also mongoloid noses make their maxillas look even worse.

 

[Deleted member 20914]

if your face is deformed enough to need Le Fort 2 me personally, I would just kill myself at that point ngl 99.99% of people do not need it and its too risky anyway with a high death rate

I need it bro

 

[TeenAscender]

Tbh at that point just get paranasal implants or fat grafting.

Also mongoloid noses make their maxillas look even worse.

paranasal + radix projection is what asians need cuz no one will do lefort 2

 

[grimy]

Brain exposing surgery and all it entices. You can get blind from the eyes getting exposed, you can get meningitis and brain damage, 5 percent death rate compared to 0.5% on Lefort 1.

There's actually a 5% death rate? Fuck that lol.

 

[Deleted member 17429]

There's actually a 5% death rate? Fuck that lol.

he pulled that statistic out his ass, there’s no fucking way

 

[Deleted member 20914]

he pulled that statistic out his ass, there’s no fucking way

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Le Fort I, II, and III fractures had mortality rates of 0%, 4.5%, and 8.7%, respectively and Le Fort II fractures were associated with a 1.94-fold increased mortality risk when compared to simple facial fractures [21]

 

[Deleted member 17429]

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Le Fort I, II, and III fractures had mortality rates of 0%, 4.5%, and 8.7%, respectively and Le Fort II fractures were associated with a 1.94-fold increased mortality risk when compared to simple facial fractures [21]

When was this study?

 

[BugeyeBigNoseCurry]

Mawgs me

if your face is deformed enough to need Le Fort 2 me personally, I would just kill myself at that point ngl 99.99% of people do not need it and its too risky anyway with a high death rate

 

[BugeyeBigNoseCurry]

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Le Fort I, II, and III fractures had mortality rates of 0%, 4.5%, and 8.7%, respectively and Le Fort II fractures were associated with a 1.94-fold increased mortality risk when compared to simple facial fractures [21]

Trauma not osteotomy

 

[BugeyeBigNoseCurry]

I need it bro

Fat cel stop coping and loose weight

 

[Deleted member 5892]

Its too dangerous
You're better off getting Paranasal implants + nose bridge augmentation

 

[TeenAscender]

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Le Fort I, II, and III fractures had mortality rates of 0%, 4.5%, and 8.7%, respectively and Le Fort II fractures were associated with a 1.94-fold increased mortality risk when compared to simple facial fractures [21]

Jesus Christ why would anyone do lefort 2

 

[Deleted member 13710]

I highly doubt plastic surgeons get asked about Le Fort 2 on a regular basis TBH. People forget about how much of a minority people in the PSL-sphere are.

 

[Deleted member 20914]

I highly doubt plastic surgeons get asked about Le Fort 2 on a regular basis TBH. People forget about how much of a minority people in the PSL-sphere are.

good point maybe 0.001% of their patients are from PSL autists

 

[Forget it]

I keep hearing that surgeons only seem to do Lefort 1 for patients seeking cosmetic changes, and that Lefort 2 is reserved for severely deformed people. What makes this surgery so risky?

I hear a rumour that Dr. A would do Lefort 2, does anyone know what the price of this would be?

If a doctor won’t do it please listen.
If doctors turn you down also please listen.

I am botched from implanting my entire skull and it ruined me. So many doctors refused to operate on me originally and of course I ignored them and kept going emailing hundreds until one said ok. Massive mistake.

 

[Deleted member 20914]

If a doctor won’t do it please listen.
If doctors turn you down also please listen.

I am botched from implanting my entire skull and it ruined me. So many doctors refused to operate on me originally and of course I ignored them and kept going emailing hundreds until one said ok. Massive mistake.

skull implant? sounds vased

 

[Forget it]

skull implant? sounds vased

Every feature on my skull

Brow forehead temples all malar area paranasal jaws and 2 genioplasties. Just terrible idea. I’m so sorry I did this to myself.

And the worst is I can’t remove the implants. They are large and the soft tissues are now stretched. So I have to live with it

 

[Deleted member 20914]

Every feature on my skull

Brow forehead temples all malar area paranasal jaws and 2 genioplasties. Just terrible idea. I’m so sorry I did this to myself.

And the worst is I can’t remove the implants. They are large and the soft tissues are now stretched. So I have to live with it

why did you go so OTT

 

[Forget it]

why did you go so OTT

I thought I could create the perfect look. And all would be needed. I was wrong. And I am paying the price

 

[Deleted member 20914]

I thought I could create the perfect look. And all would be needed. I was wrong. And I am paying the price

sorry to hear that bro, don't let 'perfect' be the enemy of 'good'

 

[Forget it]

sorry to hear that bro, don't let 'perfect' be the enemy of 'good'

Thanks.
Yes. Simple things would always be better. Best is accept and do nothing. Second, softmaxing and not get obsessed. Honestly I wouldn’t recommend any surgeries at all even simple. The changes will not be very noticeable in most cases at best

 

[Pumanator]

They don't want us to ascend.

Asked Dr z about Lefort 2. He said it makes midface look weird.

 

[Silver]

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"FRACTURES", how did you not catch that LOL. That study has nothing to do with Le Fort advancement

 

[AtlasTH]

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Le Fort I, II, and III fractures had mortality rates of 0%, 4.5%, and 8.7%, respectively and Le Fort II fractures were associated with a 1.94-fold increased mortality risk when compared to simple facial fractures [21]

What you need is lefort 2 osteotomy not lefort 2 fracture

 

[Deleted member 20914]

What you need is lefort 2 osteotomy not lefort 2 fracture

Pretty sure that when you get a lefort 2 surgery the process of them cutting the bone is considered a lefort 2 'fracture'. Fracture is just a technical term rather than what laymans deem as a fracture (i.e. an injury of some kind)

 

[Deleted member 20914]

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They don't want us to ascend.

Asked Dr z about Lefort 2. He said it makes midface look weird.

she still looks fucked up in the after

 

[AtlasTH]

Pretty sure that when you get a lefort 2 surgery the process of them cutting the bone is considered a lefort 2 'fracture'. Fracture is just a technical term rather than what laymans deem as a fracture (i.e. an injury of some kind)

Lefort 2 fracture = accident like your face getting hit by a car or car run through your face causing the fracture that's dead rate is so high

Lefort 2 osteotomy = lefort 2 with planned movement, controlled environment

 

[Deleted member 13710]

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They don't want us to ascend.

Asked Dr z about Lefort 2. He said it makes midface look weird.

In that picture, the girl looks a lot better in the after. She had a terrible base, though.

 

[Forget it]

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They don't want us to ascend.

Asked Dr z about Lefort 2. He said it makes midface look weird.

She looks amazing now I think. So happy for her. Thanks for this success story

 

[Deleted member 20914]

Lefort 2 fracture = accident like your face getting hit by a car or car run through your face causing the fracture that's dead rate is so high

Lefort 2 osteotomy = lefort 2 with planned movement, controlled environment

this may be true, but there must be a reason surgeons refuse to perform it. If they could sell lefort 2 at a premium they would

 

[AtlasTH]

this may be true, but there must be a reason surgeons refuse to perform it. If they could sell lefort 2 at a premium they would

It's very easy, high risk surgery, especially lefort 2, is more risky then lefort 3, due to the cut being more near optic nerve

 

[ascension!]

"FRACTURES", how did you not catch that LOL. That study has nothing to do with Le Fort advancement

Hey, Silver! Can you send me a PM? I need to contact you.

 

[AtlasTH]

How about high-cut lefort? does this expose the brain. Do you know is ramieri provides this

Ramieri do high cut lefort

 

[Deleted member 20914]

Ramieri do high cut lefort

Yeah I know this now, thanks

 

[longjohnmong]

why the fuck would you think about Lefort 2 before losing weight?

 

[Deleted member 20914]

why the fuck would you think about Lefort 2 before losing weight?

This is a very old thread, and why the fuck not, I am only about 15 lbs above my ideal bf% which I could lose in 2 months, it takes ages to plan out surgery. I've already lost weight since posting this

 

[longjohnmong]

This is a very old thread, and why the fuck not, I am only about 15 lbs above my ideal bf% which I could lose in 2 months, it takes ages to plan out surgery. I've already lost weight since posting this

Your ideal bf% is the one where your face looks the best and until you're there you really have no idea what your face needs. Plus Lefort 2 is a complete fantasy for you. No one is going to do Lefort 2 on you.

 

[Deleted member 20914]

Your ideal bf% is the one where your face looks the best and until you're there you really have no idea what your face needs. Plus Lefort 2 is a complete fantasy for you. No one is going to do Lefort 2 on you.

This is a thread from august, I know they won't, I've learnt a lot since then and I don't need lefort 2 anyway.