You just weren’t meant to reproduce

Same thoughts.

Most here can go moneymaxx and enjoy single life with decent career.

Yet most incels here waste their life in basementmaxing then betabuxing.
Fail in school then at their LTN job -- lost their hope.

TBH if you don't have looks the worst thing that could happen is not having kids (under the condition you are not deformed )

In the future genetic editing babies is ideal.
This and the next generation should be the last two generations to hardmax
A lot of incels who have aesthetic problems have functional issues as well. Like having very recessed jaws or a fuck up bite is not healthy for you at all. Some features simply shouldn't exist so there is a good reason for foids to select against them. They just want what is best for humanity.
 
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Imagine fixing your subhuman jaw and watching your kid grow up with it. How can you live with yourself as a blackpiller.
Almost everything is environmental/can be fixed environmentally

If you get your kid to chew and mew from birth, play sports, have good posture, eat very healthily, take AIs/GH if they need to they are going to turn out way above average
 
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I had my first kid about a month ago and it still feels like a great life decision.

There isn't much meaningful left to do after you turn 30, 35 anyway. I would have felt immense regret if I chose to live alone until my death.

As much as I respect the looksmax journey of people like Amnesia, I don't want to be childless, 45 and still trying to go to clubs and hit on prime women. At some point you just have to accept the game is over and move on.

Most modern women are also very skeptical about having kids with an older man unless he's a president, billionaire or Hollywood actor. If you don't have kids by 35 the odds rapidly decrease each year as an ordinary citizen.
Holy shit joined 2018 - 5 years ago - and just gotten the first kid. You’ve actually achieved the goal. Mirin hard. I hope I never delete my account and look back on my posts in my rotten early 20s
 
Coming to terms with the fact that no matter what you do on the operating table, even if you reach chad; your base DNA is just sub optimal.

Should we really be frauding to put these dirty genes back into the pool?

Anyone planning to have kids someday, what do you think?
Nah, if you marry a good looking girl your children will ascend.
 
Bringing a kid with subhuman genes into this world only to make him go through what you went through is pretty cruel if you think about it. Could be even worse, since everybody is looksmaxxing now
 
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Someone with Cruise's neoteny can definitely push the envelope for having fun as a single guy far past 35, probably as far as 45 or longer. But the unfortunate reality is he represents a 0,01% elite genetically. It's hard to strive to be at his or Chuando Tan's level when on top of their very hard work, they were gifted with the best aging genetics possible.

(And as you said, he has money and status on top of that - he can just pick anyone he wants and most women would be flattered)

My wall would have probably approached within 3-5 years and I just wanted to fast forward out of it.

IMO, once you completely lose your facial neoteny and collagen, there is no point in going to apps and clubs anymore. The only women who will be attracted to you past that point will be very old single moms or weird old cat ladies.
I haven't read replies lately because I only had extremely limited time to be online. That is nothing personal.

Tldr; Men do hit a wall physically too. Never listen to redpill theorists who think men age like fine wine and are in their 'prime' in their 50's.
It's ideal to look like a 28 year old Tom Cruise or Nick Bateman forever. It's not ideal to look your age at 50 especially if you want good looking young women (without resorting to some sort of payment).
Definitely, but the sad reality is that he represents 0.01% elite genetically like you said on top of their very hard work.

Money and status on top of being good looking as Tom Cruise is incredibly rare and impressive.

Makes sense, but at least you did for what you think is right for you and being aware of your wall approaching.

Facial neoteny and collagen is definitely the key to looking youthful, so once that is gone. It's brutal after that point.

Thanks for letting me know, and I appreciate your response. I am looking forward to hearing your responses to my other messages.

Yes, the wall is definitely real and legit for both men and women. Those red pill theorists are just coping and not accepting reality.

Agreed, Tom Cruise and Nick Bateman have high appeal so looking like them is great as they can attract all sorts of women without any issues for the most part. For sure, and that's the reality of it. I respect your honesty and realism in this response.
 
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not like it’s a bad thing tbh, it’s extreme rn but a little bit of natural selection is needed
women don't pick good men. just look at how many violent offenders doing time in prison are incel compared to a class full of STEM graduates. we need monogamy otherwise we have dysgenics where worthless apes get the most women
 
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women don't pick good men. just look at how many violent offenders doing time in prison are incel compared to a class full of STEM graduates. we need monogamy otherwise we have dysgenics where worthless apes get the most women
Not true tbh look at Netherlands, they’re like gods amongst men just because of female selection @SurgeryEnjoyer
 
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Not true tbh look at Netherlands, they’re like gods amongst men just because of female selection @SurgeryEnjoyer
wdym gods? if its to do with intelligence its because of monogamy
 
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Not true tbh look at Netherlands, they’re like gods amongst men just because of female selection @SurgeryEnjoyer
Ok but we can’t honestly say that a completely free market for women to choose wouldn’t encourage some brain dead traits in the next generations
 
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Ok but we can’t honestly say that a completely free market for women to choose wouldn’t encourage some brain dead traits in the next generations
I think monogamy is good but strict marriage like poligamy (arabs) just for good achieving men would be even better
 
i think i have reproduced. will confirm in months time
 
I think monogamy is good but strict marriage like poligamy (arabs) just for good achieving men would be even better

Hella bums can manage multiple women even in the west jfl. We just need strong fathers to mate select
 
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Hella bums can manage multiple women even in the west jfl. We just need strong fathers to mate select
We can’t even sustain a single whore, how can we manage to keep multiple of them jfl
 
We can’t even sustain a single whore, how can we manage to keep multiple of them jfl
We shit on pErSoNaLiTY, but in the right scenarios knowing how to act can get you so much play. Social circle game is real. Not hard to mog if you’re surrounded by subhumans. Basically a layup
 
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I had my first kid about a month ago and it still feels like a great life decision.

There isn't much meaningful left to do after you turn 30, 35 anyway. I would have felt immense regret if I chose to live alone until my death.

As much as I respect the looksmax journey of people like Amnesia, I don't want to be childless, 45 and still trying to go to clubs and hit on prime women. At some point you just have to accept the game is over and move on.

Most modern women are also very skeptical about having kids with an older man unless he's a president, billionaire or Hollywood actor. If you don't have kids by 35 the odds rapidly decrease each year as an ordinary citizen.
The kid isn't yours cuck.
 
women don't pick good men. just look at how many violent offenders doing time in prison are incel compared to a class full of STEM graduates. we need monogamy otherwise we have dysgenics where worthless apes get the most women
They do pick good men. You're just mad that your definition of good (tamed subhuman nerd) and their definition of good (untamed facial features and tall height) don't match. You think you should be able to get laid because you re a good slave that contributes to society, well nope, women will never love you.
Also prisons are full incels.
 
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wdym gods? if its to do with intelligence its because of monogamy
Height and facial attractiveness are correlated with intelligence. Monogamy obviously causes dumber people to reproduce.
 
Even if i was a 4'3 poojeet in the slums of mumbai working as sewer cleaner. I am still entitled to make at least 10 kids
Need to genghis khan max ded srs
 
Coming to terms with the fact that no matter what you do on the operating table, even if you reach chad; your base DNA is just sub optimal.

Should we really be frauding to put these dirty genes back into the pool?

Anyone planning to have kids someday, what do you think?
True, don’t want to pass down manlet genes :feelsrope:
 
Height and facial attractiveness are correlated with intelligence. Monogamy obviously causes dumber people to reproduce.
no it's not. people on the extreme level of intelligence are usually ugly like terence tao and that's why there are no physicists who look like nick bateman
They do pick good men. You're just mad that your definition of good (tamed subhuman nerd) and their definition of good (untamed facial features and tall height) don't match.
no shit they don't match and that's why man's definition of good ie. intelligent, heroic, altruistic, noble etc. is valued over what the woman thinks because who gives a shit what women think, they have never created a successful society and never will. LOL at siding with the female gender. what a shitty estrogenic response.
 
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no it's not. people on the extreme level of intelligence are usually ugly like terence tao and that's why there are no physicists who look like nick bateman

no shit they don't match and that's why man's definition of good ie. intelligent, heroic, altruistic, noble etc. is valued over what the woman thinks because who gives a shit what women think, they have never created a successful society and never will. LOL at siding with the female gender. what a shitty estrogenic response.

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no it's not. people on the extreme level of intelligence are usually ugly like terence tao and that's why there are no physicists who look like nick bateman
It could also be that people that aren't genetical failures have better shit to do than study physics to cope.
why man's definition of good ie. intelligent, heroic, altruistic, noble etc.
That's a slave's definition. And it also shows how pathetic you are. Basically you're saying that you'll be a good useful dog and that you should be loved in return for that. Well tough luck retard, not gonna happen.
is valued over what the woman thinks because who gives a shit what women think,
It's not even what they think it's their subconscious biological wiring.
they have never created a successful society and never will.
That's a good thing, societies are a bad thing.
LOL at siding with the female gender. what a shitty estrogenic response.
I don't side with foids I side with nature. You're the estrogenic one. You sound just like a bitter subhuman foid that complains about chad not wanting her and boasts about how she's much better than the hot girls and how men are shallow,...
 
It could also be that people that aren't genetical failures have better shit to do than study physics to cope.

That's a slave's definition. And it also shows how pathetic you are. Basically you're saying that you'll be a good useful dog and that you should be loved in return for that. Well tough luck retard, not gonna happen.

It's not even what they think it's their subconscious biological wiring.

That's a good thing, societies are a bad thing.

I don't side with foids I side with nature. You're the estrogenic one. You sound just like a bitter subhuman foid that complains about chad not wanting her and boasts about how she's much better than the hot girls and how men are shallow,...
if you ''sided with nature'' then you would understand that you must repress female sexual selection to prevent a fisherian runaway. and since you openly admit that civilisation is an evil then why don't you fuck off to siberia instead of trying to pollute society with your ideologically regressive thinking? why are the random joined-yesterday fags the most opinionated and inane?

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It could also be that people that aren't genetical failures have better shit to do than study physics to cope.
Highest IQ sentence Ive ever heard:ROFLMAO:

This degree of logic is only achievable by highest level of deep footed autist.
Its like pulling the sun and the moon together.
Yeah there are really many 'better shit to do' as you say to compensate their IQ.

I don't know about your facial averageness but Im sure about your IQ averageness.
There is not much you can provide anyway.
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if you ''sided with nature'' then you would understand that you must repress female sexual selection to prevent a fisherian runaway.
Fisherian runway is how evolution theorists explain the presence of aesthetic traits in animals. But it could simply be that by nature those animals are supposed to look like that.
People like you can't conceive that beauty is also a parameter of nature, not just function.
and since you openly admit that civilisation is an evil then why don't you fuck off to siberia
Too cold.
instead of trying to pollute society with your ideologically regressive thinking?
Don't try to switch roles, you're the ones that polluted me, physiologically.
why are the random joined-yesterday fags the most opinionated and inane?
Why are the guys that have been posting for 4 years still incapable of making a valid point ?
You get so mad whenever someone doesn't support the socialist truecel state that you have in mind. I wonder why. Maybe it's because you want your state mandated trad wife.
 
Fisherian runway is how evolution theorists explain the presence of aesthetic traits in animals. But it could simply be that by nature those animals are supposed to look like that.
People like you can't conceive that beauty is also a parameter of nature, not just function.
it can't be by nature if its totally dysfunctional since nature has no use for ostentatious traits. the fuck good is a peacock's feathers for in muh nature when all it is going to do is make it slower and more visible to its predators? obviously it's for sexual selection, doofus

You get so mad whenever someone doesn't support the socialist truecel state that you have in mind. I wonder why. Maybe it's because you want your state mandated trad wife.
nah retard i hate communism. i supporta sexual meritocracy, not where every dysgenic lifeform gets to reproduce.
 
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Coming to terms with the fact that no matter what you do on the operating table, even if you reach chad; your base DNA is just sub optimal.

Should we really be frauding to put these dirty genes back into the pool?

Anyone planning to have kids someday, what do you think?
Girls cheat all the time with make up, without makeup they’re all low tier beckys. So their DNA isn’t special either
 
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the fuck good is a peacock's feathers for
It looks good. Creatures feel good when they look at it. (At least humans and peacocks do)
muh nature when all it is going to do is make it slower and more visible to its predators?
The tail is actually used to scare predators away as well apparently.
obviously it's for sexual selection, doofus
When did I say it wasn't related to sexual selection ? I simply implied that those traits didn't develop from sexual selection, that they have had them since the beginning. That females choose the males that look the way they're supposed to look. And I believe that peacocks are supposed to have such tails naturally.
 
When did I say it wasn't related to sexual selection ? I simply implied that those traits didn't develop from sexual selection, that they have had them since the beginning. That females choose the males that look the way they're supposed to look. And I believe that peacocks are supposed to have such tails naturally.
ok? and why should the females select for a trait that has absolutely nothing to do with anything beyond superficial and reproductive purposes? it clearly doesn't help them give any useful edge over other species which is what happens when you allow women to do all the selecting
 
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The tail is actually used to scare predators away as well apparently.
no they don't lol. you think a tiger is going to shit itself when it sees a peacock with its feather in display? of course not, the peacock goes and flies to a tree branch which would be difficult if its feathers are so unnecessarily large
 
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no they don't lol. you think a tiger is going to shit itself when it sees a peacock with its feather in display? of course not, the peacock goes and flies to a tree branch which would be difficult if its feathers are so unnecessarily large
Yeah because the only predator in nature are tigers.
 
it clearly doesn't help them give any useful edge over other species which is what happens when you allow women to do all the selecting
"Any useful edge" How would that be possible anyway ? You think peacocks are gonna turn into lions if their females start selecting for different traits ?
 
Yeah because the only predator in nature are tigers.
in the environment of the peacock they are the most common and formidable

"Any useful edge" How would that be possible anyway ? You think peacocks are gonna turn into lions if their females start selecting for different traits ?
there is no limit to what an animal can transform into given enough time and consistent selective pressure. obviously not a lion, but they would be the most superior in their respective domain
 
there is no limit to what an animal can transform into given enough time and consistent selective pressure. obviously not a lion, but they would be the most superior in their respective domain
I think that the chad peacock is the pinnacle of peacocks. Any derivation from it is degeneration. It superior in the same way a natural landscape is superior to a city skyline.
 

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