Alhamdulillah - Islam spreading in the West ☝️

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

cant comprehend even for a second how can anyone believe/support that kind of shit

their "prophet" was literally a pedophile, there is no valid argument to combat that, JFL

And a slave trader

They go quiet when you mention this and the best part is in Islam MO IS SUPPOSEDLY THE PARAGON OF HUMANITY. Makes sense why the Ayrabs still practice such despicable acts today. Islam either needs to REFORM or accept it’s an in the words of St John “Christian heresy” as islam
Is just a cosy pasted fraudulent Christianity that failed to provide any references and made up horseshit to cover its tracks.

Why follow the fake when you have the truth

 

[Thebuffdon690]

You are right that Aisha never loved or cared about him,

+ she fabricates many lies to tarnish his name

Our Shia imams have stated themselves that she was one of the biggest liars on his name

You’re a Shia you have no say in anything.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

This kind of thread mentioning Islam is like a fed's graduation or wedding. They always send all the trash cans and dirty remains they have in the department.

I feel pity for these poor bastards they are so useless that their boss sent them to a basement and paid them some cheap VPN instead of putting them in some scrappy parking lot to deliver tickets.

8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! (‭‭‭Galatians‬ ‭1‬‬:‭8‬ ‭NIV‬‬)

Brutal 600 years your whole ting was predicted my nigga. I love Muslims I cry for you not even a joke I legit cry for Muslims when I pray all the time as I LOVE YOU you guys are awsome People but deceived. We are not taught to hate the sinner but the SIN.

I’ll always see Muslims as my brothers and sisters no Matter what, I speak because I CARE

 

[Thebuffdon690]

can't even comprehend even for a second how can anyone believe/support that kind of shit

their "prophet" was literally a pedophile, there is no valid argument to combat that, JFL

You won’t believe how stupid the average person is

 

[yeeyeeslayer]

You’re a Shia you have no say in anything.

why is that?

because some sunnis told you that we're not real muslim?

well we also say this about them, so as an outsider why take their word over ours?

 

[Thebuffdon690]

why is that?

because some sunnis told you that we're not real muslim?

well we also say this about them, so as an outsider why take their word over ours?

I’m an ex Muslim lmao

 

[Deleted member 66828]

You won’t believe how stupid the average person is

apparently extremely stupid xD

 

[yeeyeeslayer]

I’m an ex Muslim lmao

ofc

ex muslims are always biased to their former sects whether consciously or subconsciously JFL

ur an ex sunni alright that checks out

 

[Deleted member 51576]

This kind of thread mentioning Islam is like a fed's graduation or wedding. They always send all the trash cans and dirty remains they have in the department.

I feel pity for these poor bastards they are so useless that their boss sent them to a basement and paid them some cheap VPN instead of putting them in some scrappy parking lot to deliver tickets.

We had a (pepperoni) pizza party last night here at Langley. You should’ve came, moohamed—much fun was had and many laughs were shared. Come and work for us and perhaps we will rescue you from the slum squalor you are living in now.

 

[yeeyeeslayer]

I’m an ex Muslim lmao

let me guess your egyptian right?

 

[Deleted member 19957]

God, white became such degenerates weak pieces of shit thanks to leftist beliefs, it's disgusting.

 

[Deleted member 66828]

I’m an ex Muslim lmao

whats your religion now?

 

[Deleted member 51576]

let me guess your egyptian right?

We wuz pharaohs n shit

 

[yeeyeeslayer]

whats your religion now?

he's an athiest

 

[Thebuffdon690]

ofc

ex muslims are always biased to their former sects whether consciously or subconsciously JFL

ur an ex sunni alright that checks out

Majority of Muslims are sunnis so what ru talking about

 

[yeeyeeslayer]

Majority of Muslims are sunnis so what ru talking about

so majority = correct?

what is this logic,

i thought athiests were supposed to be smart and logical or so they claim

 

[i_love_roosters]

I'm on holiday niggas, won't be getting involved. Islam is from Satan, numbers don't matter, peace out

 

[robtical]

Delusional if you think these guys have any values. They are halal pork looker and will leave islam in few years anyways. Its secularism or liberisation of islam that will win.

 

[MaghrebGator]

And a slave trader

They go quiet when you mention this and the best part is in Islam MO IS SUPPOSEDLY THE PARAGON OF HUMANITY. Makes sense why the Ayrabs still practice such despicable acts today. Islam either needs to REFORM or accept it’s an in the words of St John “Christian heresy” as islam
Is just a cosy pasted fraudulent Christianity that failed to provide any references and made up horseshit to cover its tracks.

Why follow the fake when you have the

First read the Bible about slavery and what it claims God (Jesus according to you) ordered

1 Peter 2:18: "Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate but also to those who are harsh.

Leviticus 25:45-47 "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life".

In Ephesians 6:5–8, Paul states "Slaves, be obedient to your human masters with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ".

Exodus 21:7
“If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do."

Luke 12:47-48
“The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked."

Exodus 21:20-21
“Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.

Islamic slavery is extremely different from western concept of slavery and the judeochristian one, which was without shame and mercy in a time in which all societies engaged in slavery

Ma’rur ibn Suwaid reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said: "Your slaves are your brothers. Allah has placed them in your hand, and he who has his brother under him should feed him with the same food he eats and clothe him with the same clothes he wears, and do not burden him beyond his capacity, and if you burden him then help him."

Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said: "None of you should say: My slave, for all of you are the slaves of Allah. Rather, you should say: My boy. The servant should not say: My lord, but rather he should say: My chief."

Jabir ibn Abdullah reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, enjoined good treatment of slaves and he would say: "Feed them from the same food you eat and clothe them from the same clothes you wear, and do not torture the creation of Allah the Exalted."

Anas ibn Malik reported: "I served the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, for ten years. By Allah, he never even said a mild rebuke to me and he never said harshly for anything: Why did you do that? Why did you not do that?"


Islam encouraged many means through which slaves could achieve their freedom.

Allah said (Interpretation of the meaning):
"What will make you know what is the difficult path to Paradise? It is the freeing of a slave."
Surat Al-Balad 90:12-13

In Islam it was completely prohibited to hit a slave

Ibn Umar reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessing be upon him, said:
"Whoever strikes his slave without limit or slaps him, then the expiation for the sin is to emancipate him."

Abu Mas’ud reported: I was beating a boy of mine when I heard a voice from behind me: "Know, O Abu Mas’ud, that Allah has more power over you than you have over him."
I turned around and it was the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him. I said, “O Messenger of Allah, I have freed him for the sake of Allah.” The Prophet said: "If you had not done so, you would have been burnt in the Hellfire."

Suwaid ibn Muqarrin reported: He had a servant girl and someone slapped her, so he said to him: "Did you not know that it is forbidden to strike the face? I was the seventh of my brothers during the lifetime of the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessing be upon him, and we had only one servant. One of us became enraged and slapped him, so the Messenger of Allah commanded us to set him free."

Abu Bakr reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said: "He will not enter Paradise who is evil to his slaves."

Abu Musa Al-Ashari reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said: "Feed the hungry, visit the sick, and set the captives free."

 

[Thebuffdon690]

so majority = correct?

what is this logic,

i thought athiests were supposed to be smart and logical or so they claim

Yeh ok then you can make the case that Wahhabis or Hanbalis are the correct sect lmao. Point is majority doesn’t = right but it points to that sect having the most truth in it because it has a larger adherence. That’s just common sense

 

[Thebuffdon690]

let me guess your egyptian right?

No ?

 

[st.hamudi but 6‘5]

let me guess your egyptian right?

he is indian 100%

 

[yeeyeeslayer]

he is indian 100%

he is a hindujeet born and raised larping as an ex muslim

 

[Fiqh]

"The Hour will not be established till the sun rises from the west, and when it rises (from the west) and the people see it, then all of them will believe (in Allah)."



As per usual it's triggered Iranian diasporas. Future of Islam is the West, not the east. Keep seething.

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[Fiqh]

he is a hindujeet born and raised larping as an ex muslim

You're literally in the same boat as him lol, kaafir

 

[Deleted member 51576]

First read the Bible about slavery and what it claims God (Jesus according to you) ordered

1 Peter 2:18: "Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate but also to those who are harsh.

Leviticus 25:45-47 "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life".

In Ephesians 6:5–8, Paul states "Slaves, be obedient to your human masters with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ".

Exodus 21:7
“If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do."

Luke 12:47-48
“The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked."

Exodus 21:20-21
“Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.

Islamic slavery is extremely different from western concept of slavery and the judeochristian one, which was without shame and mercy in a time in which all societies engaged in slavery

Ma’rur ibn Suwaid reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said: "Your slaves are your brothers. Allah has placed them in your hand, and he who has his brother under him should feed him with the same food he eats and clothe him with the same clothes he wears, and do not burden him beyond his capacity, and if you burden him then help him."

Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said: "None of you should say: My slave, for all of you are the slaves of Allah. Rather, you should say: My boy. The servant should not say: My lord, but rather he should say: My chief."

Jabir ibn Abdullah reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, enjoined good treatment of slaves and he would say: "Feed them from the same food you eat and clothe them from the same clothes you wear, and do not torture the creation of Allah the Exalted."

Anas ibn Malik reported: "I served the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, for ten years. By Allah, he never even said a mild rebuke to me and he never said harshly for anything: Why did you do that? Why did you not do that?"


Islam encouraged many means through which slaves could achieve their freedom.

Allah said (Interpretation of the meaning):
"What will make you know what is the difficult path to Paradise? It is the freeing of a slave."
Surat Al-Balad 90:12-13

In Islam it was completely prohibited to hit a slave

Ibn Umar reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessing be upon him, said:
"Whoever strikes his slave without limit or slaps him, then the expiation for the sin is to emancipate him."

Abu Mas’ud reported: I was beating a boy of mine when I heard a voice from behind me: "Know, O Abu Mas’ud, that Allah has more power over you than you have over him."
I turned around and it was the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him. I said, “O Messenger of Allah, I have freed him for the sake of Allah.” The Prophet said: "If you had not done so, you would have been burnt in the Hellfire."

Suwaid ibn Muqarrin reported: He had a servant girl and someone slapped her, so he said to him: "Did you not know that it is forbidden to strike the face? I was the seventh of my brothers during the lifetime of the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessing be upon him, and we had only one servant. One of us became enraged and slapped him, so the Messenger of Allah commanded us to set him free."

Abu Bakr reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said: "He will not enter Paradise who is evil to his slaves."

Abu Musa Al-Ashari reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said: "Feed the hungry, visit the sick, and set the captives free."



 

[yeeyeeslayer]

You're literally in the same boat as him lol, kaafir

what you are saying applies perfectly to yourself if you only knew

 

[Deleted member 51576]

You're literally in the same boat as him lol, kaafir

Shut up terrorist. YA HMAR

 

[yeeyeeslayer]

You're literally in the same boat as him lol, kaafir

you are worse than hindus because they are apparent kuffar

you are a munafiq (kaffir larping as a muslim) and a nasibi who follows munafiqeen while abandoning the imams of ahlulbayt

Islam is incomplete without accpeting the 12 imams as successors of rasool allah,

you will be grilled like a sandwich in the lowest pit of jahhannam

 

[Daqirius]

of course its one of those insufferable iranian diasporoid ex muslims complaining

 

[Deleted member 51576]

you will be grilled like a sandwich in the lowest pit of jahhannam

fact check: True

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

First read the Bible about slavery and what it claims God (Jesus according to you) ordered

1 Peter 2:18: "Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate but also to those who are harsh.

Leviticus 25:45-47 "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life".

In Ephesians 6:5–8, Paul states "Slaves, be obedient to your human masters with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ".

Exodus 21:7
“If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do."

Luke 12:47-48
“The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked."

Exodus 21:20-21
“Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.

Islamic slavery is extremely different from western concept of slavery and the judeochristian one, which was without shame and mercy in a time in which all societies engaged in slavery

Ma’rur ibn Suwaid reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said: "Your slaves are your brothers. Allah has placed them in your hand, and he who has his brother under him should feed him with the same food he eats and clothe him with the same clothes he wears, and do not burden him beyond his capacity, and if you burden him then help him."

Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said: "None of you should say: My slave, for all of you are the slaves of Allah. Rather, you should say: My boy. The servant should not say: My lord, but rather he should say: My chief."

Jabir ibn Abdullah reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, enjoined good treatment of slaves and he would say: "Feed them from the same food you eat and clothe them from the same clothes you wear, and do not torture the creation of Allah the Exalted."

Anas ibn Malik reported: "I served the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, for ten years. By Allah, he never even said a mild rebuke to me and he never said harshly for anything: Why did you do that? Why did you not do that?"


Islam encouraged many means through which slaves could achieve their freedom.

Allah said (Interpretation of the meaning):
"What will make you know what is the difficult path to Paradise? It is the freeing of a slave."
Surat Al-Balad 90:12-13

In Islam it was completely prohibited to hit a slave

Ibn Umar reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessing be upon him, said:
"Whoever strikes his slave without limit or slaps him, then the expiation for the sin is to emancipate him."

Abu Mas’ud reported: I was beating a boy of mine when I heard a voice from behind me: "Know, O Abu Mas’ud, that Allah has more power over you than you have over him."
I turned around and it was the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him. I said, “O Messenger of Allah, I have freed him for the sake of Allah.” The Prophet said: "If you had not done so, you would have been burnt in the Hellfire."

Suwaid ibn Muqarrin reported: He had a servant girl and someone slapped her, so he said to him: "Did you not know that it is forbidden to strike the face? I was the seventh of my brothers during the lifetime of the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessing be upon him, and we had only one servant. One of us became enraged and slapped him, so the Messenger of Allah commanded us to set him free."

Abu Bakr reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said: "He will not enter Paradise who is evil to his slaves."

Abu Musa Al-Ashari reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said: "Feed the hungry, visit the sick, and set the captives free."

Very good response Im mirin.


Christians don't follow the old testament ceremonial/judicial laws for various reasons. No God didn't change his mind. Jesus taught that God permitted some things, but it was never supposed to be that way from the beginning. At the council of Jerusalem in Acts 15, the apostles taught that Christians should not follow Jewish ritual laws. Jesus says he came to fulfill the law( of the old testament) and Paul writes "For Christ has already accomplished the purpose for which the law was given. As a result, all who believe in him are made right with God. "



What was slavery like in Roman empire during the time of Peter and Paul? I have no idea. All i know is that a large portion of people in the roman empire were slaves.

1 Peter 2:18: "Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate but also to those who are harsh.
So slaves should be submissive to their masters, even the "harsh" ones. Certainly doesn't seem to be a rejection of slavery or a call for freedom.

1 Peter 2:18 is an interesting passages. If you read the entire passage, right before the slavery portion, it tells Christians to be subject to the government. At this time the government was the Roman Empire. At this time the Roman Empire was murdering Christians.

When Peter says for Christians to be subject to the government is he endorsing the Roman Empire, that is actively murdering Christians? I don't think so.

In the same way, I don't think Peter is endorsing slavery.

Read the whole passage (1 Peter 2:13-25)

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Peter+2:13-25&version=ESV '

It's interesting that obedience to the murderous roman empire is inlcuded with obedience to slavemasters.

Why does Peter say this? I have no idea. Perhaps, it was to prevent a violent revolution. At this time, most Christians believed Jesus would return in their own lifetimes. Perhaps, they saw no reason to start a political movement, I don't really know! Perhaps they were giving advice to Christians on how to survive.



Paul also seems to emphasize this same idea of obeying authority. Although, he tells slaves to seek their freedom and proclaims them the "lords freed person" in 1 Cor 7:21-24

21 Were you a slave when you were called? Don’t let it trouble you—although if you can gain your freedom, do so. 22 For the one who was a slave when called to faith in the Lord is the Lord’s freed person; similarly, the one who was free when called is Christ’s slave. 23 You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings. 24 Brothers and sisters, each person, as responsible to God, should remain in the situation they were in when God called them.



And then Paul says:

"You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings." (1 Cor 7:23)

as if being a slave is a choice. This leads me to question, if he's actually referencing "slavery." Or some type of servant. Some translations do use the term "servant."

Some nations would enslave people who were in debt, in order to pay off the debt. They would then work their debt off. I think the Roman Empire may have done this, but I am not too certain. Perhaps someone more knowledgable can verify/debunk that.

EDIT:

Something else I forgot to mention was in regards to the old testament slave laws. If I'm correct, I believe the Jews in the old testament were allowed to have slaves of other nations. But they couldn't have Jewish Slaves. This is really interesting!

Many of the old testament rituals were based in the idea that Jews and non Jews were different... and they weren't supposed to mix. If they did, they might start mixing their religions, god's etc.

hence, why they had all of the laws against "mixing" Not to mix certain foods, not to mix certain crops, certain fabrics, etc. These laws weren't metaphores. The ancient hebrews really followed these laws! And many Jews still follow these today! But we think the reason was to reinforce the idea for the Jews not to mix with non Jews.

This idea doesn't carry over into the new testament. Paul writes that "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3:28

This is why non jewish Christians don't have to be circumsized. There is no difference between a jew and gentile (non Jew).

How would we Christians follow the old testament laws discriminating against non Jews for slavery, when we are not Jewish ourselves, and we aren't supposed to differentiate against Jews/non Jews?

So did the bible allow slavery in the old testament? sure.

Does this mean Christians should own slaves or are justified in owning slaves? eee I don't know about that! Peter and Paul weren't writing for people 2000 years in the future. In their letters, they were responding to very specific issues in their own day and time. They also thought the end of the world was coming in their own lifetimes.

I’ll end it with this
1 Corinthians 7:21 Were you a slave when you were called? Don’t let it trouble you—although if you can gain your freedom, do so. 22 For the one who was a slave when called to faith in the Lord is the Lord’s freed person; similarly, the one who was free when called is Christ’s slave. 23 You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings.

So Islamic slavery is permitted and so is trading with 0 reasons behind it other than Islam being a joke. Christianity only PUT UP with slavery because we belived Jesus was coming back within the life time and that a slave will be free within a few years once he returns. Completely diff concept

Also European Catholic and Protestant cattle slavery of natives and Africans In the new world isn’t permissible in the NT that was jsut WHYPIPO being pieces of shit

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

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Not a good response to the question the brother is asking. I easily refuted these especially as the word for “slave” used in English is different in Greek which means “servant”. No womder @st.hamudi but 6‘5 gave his comments a thumbs up even i had 2 because he brought up a good point.

“The word used here is not the Greek douli, the classic term for "slaves." Rather, it is oiketai, probably best translated as "servants." That being said, the line between servants and slaves was blurry in Peter's time.“

 

[i_love_roosters]

Very good response Im mirin.


Christians don't follow the old testament ceremonial/judicial laws for various reasons. No God didn't change his mind. Jesus taught that God permitted some things, but it was never supposed to be that way from the beginning. At the council of Jerusalem in Acts 15, the apostles taught that Christians should not follow Jewish ritual laws. Jesus says he came to fulfill the law( of the old testament) and Paul writes "For Christ has already accomplished the purpose for which the law was given. As a result, all who believe in him are made right with God. "



What was slavery like in Roman empire during the time of Peter and Paul? I have no idea. All i know is that a large portion of people in the roman empire were slaves.


1 Peter 2:18 is an interesting passages. If you read the entire passage, right before the slavery portion, it tells Christians to be subject to the government. At this time the government was the Roman Empire. At this time the Roman Empire was murdering Christians.

When Peter says for Christians to be subject to the government is he endorsing the Roman Empire, that is actively murdering Christians? I don't think so.

In the same way, I don't think Peter is endorsing slavery.

Read the whole passage (1 Peter 2:13-25)

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Peter+2:13-25&version=ESV '

It's interesting that obedience to the murderous roman empire is inlcuded with obedience to slavemasters.

Why does Peter say this? I have no idea. Perhaps, it was to prevent a violent revolution. At this time, most Christians believed Jesus would return in their own lifetimes. Perhaps, they saw no reason to start a political movement, I don't really know! Perhaps they were giving advice to Christians on how to survive.



Paul also seems to emphasize this same idea of obeying authority. Although, he tells slaves to seek their freedom and proclaims them the "lords freed person" in 1 Cor 7:21-24

21 Were you a slave when you were called? Don’t let it trouble you—although if you can gain your freedom, do so. 22 For the one who was a slave when called to faith in the Lord is the Lord’s freed person; similarly, the one who was free when called is Christ’s slave. 23 You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings. 24 Brothers and sisters, each person, as responsible to God, should remain in the situation they were in when God called them.



And then Paul says:

"You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings." (1 Cor 7:23)

as if being a slave is a choice. This leads me to question, if he's actually referencing "slavery." Or some type of servant. Some translations do use the term "servant."

Some nations would enslave people who were in debt, in order to pay off the debt. They would then work their debt off. I think the Roman Empire may have done this, but I am not too certain. Perhaps someone more knowledgable can verify/debunk that.

EDIT:

Something else I forgot to mention was in regards to the old testament slave laws. If I'm correct, I believe the Jews in the old testament were allowed to have slaves of other nations. But they couldn't have Jewish Slaves. This is really interesting!

Many of the old testament rituals were based in the idea that Jews and non Jews were different... and they weren't supposed to mix. If they did, they might start mixing their religions, god's etc.

hence, why they had all of the laws against "mixing" Not to mix certain foods, not to mix certain crops, certain fabrics, etc. These laws weren't metaphores. The ancient hebrews really followed these laws! And many Jews still follow these today! But we think the reason was to reinforce the idea for the Jews not to mix with non Jews.

This idea doesn't carry over into the new testament. Paul writes that "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3:28

This is why non jewish Christians don't have to be circumsized. There is no difference between a jew and gentile (non Jew).

How would we Christians follow the old testament laws discriminating against non Jews for slavery, when we are not Jewish ourselves, and we aren't supposed to differentiate against Jews/non Jews?

So did the bible allow slavery in the old testament? sure.

Does this mean Christians should own slaves or are justified in owning slaves? eee I don't know about that! Peter and Paul weren't writing for people 2000 years in the future. In their letters, they were responding to very specific issues in their own day and time. They also thought the end of the world was coming in their own lifetimes.

I’ll end it with this
1 Corinthians 7:21 Were you a slave when you were called? Don’t let it trouble you—although if you can gain your freedom, do so. 22 For the one who was a slave when called to faith in the Lord is the Lord’s freed person; similarly, the one who was free when called is Christ’s slave. 23 You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings.

So Islamic slavery is permitted and so is trading with 0 reasons behind it other than Islam being a joke. Christianity only PUT UP with slavery because we belived Jesus was coming back within the life time and that a slave will be free within a few years once he returns. Completely diff concept

Also European Catholic and Protestant cattle slavery of natives and Africans In the new world isn’t permissible in the NT that was jsut WHYPIPO being pieces of shit

 

[Gengar]

"The Hour will not be established till the sun rises from the west, and when it rises (from the west) and the people see it, then all of them will believe (in Allah)."



As per usual it's triggered Iranian diasporas. Future of Islam is the West, not the east. Keep seething.

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Based.

 

[mayo mogger]

"The Hour will not be established till the sun rises from the west, and when it rises (from the west) and the people see it, then all of them will believe (in Allah)."



As per usual it's triggered Iranian diasporas. Future of Islam is the West, not the east. Keep seething.

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bhai you are 28 year old bengali thats what you should be concerned with

 

[Gengar]

bhai you are 28 year old bengali thats what you should be concerned with

Aren’t you 29? @secularislamisr

 

[Gengar]

Aren’t you 29? @secularislamisr

@SecularIslamist

 

[Deleted member 46979]

the more religion collides with western secularism, they more religion becomes tamed and assimilated into a version of this

this is what awaits op :

 

[SecularIslamist]

Aren’t you 29? @secularislamisr

Yes

Gonna hit 30 at end of year and my marriageable pool of women will decrease -50% yet hear I am wasting time on .org

 

[mayo mogger]

Yes

Gonna hit 30 at end of year and my marriageable pool of women will decrease -50% yet hear I am wasting time on .org

how tall are u bhai? height is law in south adia as far as marraige is concerned

 

[Gengar]

the more religion collides with western secularism, they more religion becomes tamed and assimilated into a version of this

this is what awaits op :

Will never happen to muzzies. only americuck muzzles are like this. Come and meet a euro muzzie instead.

 

[Gengar]

Yes

Gonna hit 30 at end of year and my marriageable pool of women will decrease -50% yet hear I am wasting time on .org

I will be 30 by early 2026.

 

[SecularIslamist]

how tall are u bhai? height is law in south adia as far as marraige is concerned

For a Bengali not bad actually 5'7.5. Even in the West for a Bengali I'm average, but in Bangladesh I'm above average for sure.

But I don't live there so it doesn't matter. I'm gigamanlet in cucked UK.

 

[SecularIslamist]

I will be 30 by early 2026.

Geomaxxing or arranged marriage it is.

 

[mayo mogger]

For a Bengali not bad actually 5'7.5. Even in the West for a Bengali I'm average, but in Bangladesh I'm above average for sure.

But I don't live there so it doesn't matter. I'm gigamanlet in cucked UK.

nigga 5'7 is below avg everywhere even nepals 2% population is above 6 foot for bangladesh it might be even higher

 

[Gengar]

Geomaxxing or arranged marriage it is.

Where can us currycels even geomaxx? We have dogshit SMV.

 

[WeiWei]

lmao what a cucked country

 

[mayo mogger]

Where can us currycels even geomaxx? We have dogshit SMV.

back home buddy

 

[Gengar]

back home buddy

First of all, I was born and raised in the west. Home is the west. And second, that’s not geomaxxing, that’s betabuxxing. Geomaxxing is where you can use your racial SMV to your advantage, outside the country your parents were from.