All the so called ''Healthy Diets'' are poisoning and killing people early ( Carnivore / Ray Peat Etc. )

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I’m doing some examples here, so people can see that the problem can ABSOLUTELY come from these “healthy diets”…it is NOT just supplements or pharmaceuticals that cause this problem! The following are the high Poison/”Vitamin A” sources in each of these approaches, and can easily explain why none of them have proved to be the “Holy Grail” of long-term health:

Weston A. Price / Keto / Carnivore INC world:

• Encourage organ meat consumption, particularly liver
• Eat tons of all types of dairy (dairy, except butter and ghee), dairy is the “perfect storm” for causing Poison/”Vitamin A” toxicity
• Cod liver oil oxidized PUFAS
• Many WAPF foundation members got brain cancer from eating the fermented cod liver oil and it wasn't just from the pufa!

RAY PEAT world

• Eating liver
• Daily carrot salads
• Tons of milk (one person I know was suggested to drink TWO GALLONS of milk a day by a “Ray Peat inspired practitioner”, this caused rapid fat gain)
• Excessive calcium intake from ground-up eggshells (excess calcium exacerbates the problems caused by excess Poison/"Vitamin A"
• Some are taking additional Vitamin A on top of the above things

The “Primal Diet” aka Aajonus Vonderplanitz and Sv3rige world:

• Organ meats (raw, along with raw muscle meats)
• Tons of dairy
• Tons of egg yolks

General normies just trying to be healthy:

• Trying to “eat the rainbow”…yellow and orange fruits and vegetables are full of carotenoids (plant form of Poison/”Vitamin A”), while red fruits and veggies that are that way because of carotenoids are the worst of the bunch (some fruits and veggies are red due to cyanidins/anthocyanins/OPCs, they are definite exceptions)
• Multivitamins with Vitamin A and/or carotenoids (lutein, lycopene, etc.), this is only the start of the problems with multivitamins, I NEVER RECOMMEND THEM
• Vitamin A (retinol) infused skin creams, anti-aging creams, sunscreens, etc.
• Fortified foods, including cereals and low-fat dairy

Look…if you are not getting the results you want or feel you were promised from any health approach…well, the definition of insanity would be to keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

https://ggenereux.blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/poisoningforprofits.pdf

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

Any evidence carotenoids are poison?

 

[Deleted member 5815]

Any evidence carotenoids are poison?

carotenoids convert to vitamin a and vitamin a is poison and the root cause of all diseases

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

carotenoids convert to vitamin a and vitamin a is poison and the root cause of all diseases

Carotenoids is a precursor to vitamin A the body auto regulates how much it convertes unlike pure vitamin A which is fat soluble, bio-accumulates and can lead to toxicity

 

[Deleted member 5815]

Carotenoids is a precursor to vitamin A the body auto regulates how much it convertes unlike pure vitamin A which is fat soluble, bio-accumulates and can lead to toxicity

It's true if you don't have vitamin a toxicity due to past liver and organ meat / fortified dairy / egg yolk maxxing. The body can up or downregulate beta-carotene conversion within some range, but can't shut it down altogether. If you are storing dangerous doses in your liver eating carotenoids just make the problem worse by accumulation. Regardless carotenoids have been linked to cancer heart disease and hypothyroidism by the Peat and conventional medicine already

 

[Prettyboy]

carotenoids convert to vitamin a and vitamin a is poison and the root cause of all diseases

He’s a legit schizo based on his tweets

The world has vitamin A deficiency, not surplus. People barely eat organs anymore so their diets lack retinol

 

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Vitamin Angels gives women prenatal vitamins w 2667 IU "vit" A https://vitaminangels.org/prenatal-vitamins-and-minerals…
Vitamin Angels give 2x/year MEGADOSE "vit" A supps to children https://vitaminangels.org/vitamin-a-deficiency…

Vitamin Angels | Vitamin A & Deworming

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VITAMIN A + VACCINES = DEATH

I know this is a brutal pill to swallow and it's much easier to gorge on egg yolks and liver for the essential nootrients, that temporarily drug like stimulant feeling it gives you

You will hit a wall

eating chicken broccoli and rice like a normal person is much more healthier than the carnivore or ray peat diet

 

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

He’s a legit schizo based on his tweets

The world has vitamin A deficiency, not surplus. People barely eat organs anymore so their diets lack retinol

Eggs and milk have retinol and can get you vitamin a so no, organ meats aren't even needed in a diet.

 

[Bashan]

All fancy diets are memes. I body mog 99.99% of humanity with my pizza diet.

 

[MoggerGaston]

All fancy diets are memes. I body mog 99.99% of humanity with my pizza diet.

Eat pizza, drink wine. Diet of kings.

 

[sub5inchcel]

He’s a legit schizo based on his tweets

The world has vitamin A deficiency, not surplus. People barely eat organs anymore so their diets lack retinol

how to get this? eggs is enoguh? how many eggs?

 

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

Vitamin Angels Announces Founding Partnership on New Initiative with The Gates Foundation

/PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- On Wednesday, April 2, Vitamin Angels participated in the Uniting to Combat Neglected Tropical Diseases (NTD) Conference at the...

www.prnewswire.com

Vitamin Angels gives women prenatal vitamins w 2667 IU "vit" A https://vitaminangels.org/prenatal-vitamins-and-minerals…
Vitamin Angels give 2x/year MEGADOSE "vit" A supps to children https://vitaminangels.org/vitamin-a-deficiency…

Vitamin Angels | Vitamin A & Deworming

As a public health nonprofit, Vitamin Angels works to bring nutrition interventions, like vitamin A supplementation and deworming treatment, to children under 5.

vitaminangels.org

VITAMIN A + VACCINES = DEATH

I know this is a brutal pill to swallow and it's much easier to gorge on egg yolks and liver for the essential nootrients, that temporarily drug like stimulant feeling it gives you

You will hit a wall

eating chicken broccoli and rice like a normal person is much more healthier than the carnivore or ray peat diet

Prettyboy is a fake natty clown who claims zyzz and jon Skywalker have naturally achievable physiques by natty lifting + low carb diets. Maybe if your testicles are raisins you can look like them. Personally I don't hate him, im just tired of him lying and deceiving people by giving them false hope, I love when people ascend and improve. It's why Gaia262 is my most respected user. He got dealt a awful deck and still ascended hard and came a long way.

Expectations vs Reality: Natty Gymcel

VS

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Jon Skywalker had the ultimate slayer physique in his prime

Skywalker isnt ugly he has been on gear since he is 17 & is now like 27 so tren will take its toll lol, when he wasnt bloated and was in his prime this guy had the perfect physique no cap, defo using masteron and test, maybe tren but defo mast for sure, id say his bodyfat was like 7-8% here...

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KaleFartBomb too with his retarded obsession with animal food. He even admitted to roiding before, but once you roid you are never natty again.

Notice how Arnold still retained embers of his former physique even though he probably doesn't even train and roid anymore.