Bonesmashing doesn't work. Roiding doesn't change the facial structure.

yeah but I haven't seen actual progress pics of anyone yet
I haven’t tried so i don’t have pic
I don’t want to post my before and after then claim is bonesmashing effects tbh.
Search more,if u’re brave enough start it don’t wait for others.
 
I haven’t tried so i don’t have pic
I don’t want to post my before and after then claim is bonesmashing effects tbh.
Search more,if u’re brave enough start it don’t wait for others.
I've been doing it for the past couple of weeks with a massage gun but haven't noticed anything
 
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I've been doing it for the past couple of weeks with a massage gun but haven't noticed anything
U’ll notice a difference in 4-6weeks

Are u on HGH,CJC,test?those helps actually.

if no just maximize ur intake of calcium and collagen,as those are needed for osteoblast to create a strong bone matrix.
 
U’ll notice a difference in 4-6weeks

Are u on HGH,CJC,test?those helps actually.

if no just maximize ur intake of calcium and collagen,as those are needed for osteoblast to create a strong bone matrix.
Nah Im not any roids, im already prone to balding i don't need more hairloss
 
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Let’s say I want prominent zygos,the zygomatic bones must be in a ❗️MULTIPLE❗️process of bones remodeling,if u don’t know, bones remodeling is when both cells Osteoclast,Osteoblasts released when the body demands new bones,either the previous bones get cracked/removed.

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for a prominent zygomatic bones,you’d need a continuous cycle of bone remodeling,So with excessive mechanical stress like repeatedly hitting a facial bone can cause Microfractures which will trigger the bone remodeling.

It’s a long a game,and first u will notice just swelling,U can accelerate this process with HGH,test.
@Jonas2k7
@Bananaenjoyer read this!
 
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This was actually already explained much more detailed in one of threads in BOTB
Which one if you don’t mind me asking? I’d like to do more research
 
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Which one if you don’t mind me asking? I’d like to do more research
 
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I wouldnt count on roids changing the facial bones tbh. If you want to roid just do it for the muscle mass. Roiding would only slightly help during early to mid puberty, most users here are above 13-14 though, that makes it useless pretty much.
 
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Agree on roids , see alain ritchson
 
Well you know gear increase androgen reveptors right ????
Test is the best in general for androgen receptors right ? Like the risk : reward
 
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Im still confused
 
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The idea stems from testosterone affecting facial development obviously, but this seems to be only the case primarely during early puberty. Roiding being able to compensate for being in a later stage of development to still see facial development is unfortunately a cope.

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50 Cent face on roids and 50 cent face when dropping to ideal bodyfat % according to looksmaxxers.
 
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Roiding objectively does though. Maybe not in every case. Depends on a lot of factors. I dont recommend roiding of course, there are better natural ways to do it, but i did notice for sure roiding and hgh change ur face.
 
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He could get surgery
Bro literally looks like a fucking hobo now and balding, OF COURSE HE GAINED BONES, do you think a looksmaxxer would be fucking bald at 34y
 
Buddy one quote is me saying that it’s minimized

That doesn’t say they don’t get hit often

The other quote is me saying they don’t take blows to the head every second

Once again that does mean they don’t get hit often

They take 2.41 blows every minute on average which is a lot but not as much as you thought it was

Mirin your reading comprehension
You are correct nigga, even if bonesmashing works, would require a daily routine with proper supplements, this shit is looking like flat earth for gays
 
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Nah Im not any roids, im already prone to balding i don't need more hairloss
IGF-1, makes DHT lower than IGF-1 and you wont get bald, kinda expensive tho, on my cycle saw a bit of hairloss, going back to baseline at 19y, when i started using fin.
 
Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed.

Or even roids, they don't change the facial structure bone-wise. Greg Doucette is an example for that, he blasted tons of roids, but there were 0 changes. In theory it should work though, atleast in puberty.

Before roiding (22yo)
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Arnold Schwarzenegger (16-20yo)
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After years of extreme AAS use
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Their giant jaws indicate how sensitive they are to androgens (high AR density, low myostatin, etc.), not that their jaws grew by the AAS use. It's almost as if the big jaw seen in most bodybuilders could be an indicator for success in bodybuilding.

An comparison for that would be how people think basketball players are taller because of playing basketball, it's more like basketball players are taller on average because they have better chances in the sport.

Feel free to discuss this, I just wanted to put this up for debate.

I'm not hating on roids btw, I'm roiding myself.

@lestoa @Hexmask @halloweed @Angutoid @N1666
Ask Clav this is his method I’m pretty sure
 
I haven’t tried so i don’t have pic
I don’t want to post my before and after then claim is bonesmashing effects tbh.
Search more,if u’re brave enough start it don’t wait for others.
Sat ra khona gha kitmegn bnbndm how braso ra ki drb wjho bmtr9a ou kayakhod androtartyl
 
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50 Cent face on roids and 50 cent face when dropping to ideal bodyfat % according to looksmaxxers.
Oh? So you claim roids give a "temporary bone mass" effect or what? That would make roiding even less pointless if you can only "look good" during a looksminned phase with increased sebum production and hair loss etc. My bad if I understood your message wrong.
Roiding objectively does though. Maybe not in every case. Depends on a lot of factors. I dont recommend roiding of course, there are better natural ways to do it, but i did notice for sure roiding and hgh change ur face.
I think those changes would happen at best only with years of AAS usage, making it a bad choice to max out your looks. And I have yet to see some great examples with roiding changing the facial structure.
You are correct nigga, even if bonesmashing works, would require a daily routine with proper supplements, this shit is looking like flat earth for gays
I made a deep-dive into bonesmashing one time biologically speaking, you'd have to bonesmash for 2 years to at best see 1-2mm of bone projection. It could be done, but I wouldn't recommend it because of the soft tissue trauma, you shouldn't want to looksmin your skin as that is really important itself, so it's not a good trade with "bigger bones" and scar tissue.
Ask Clav this is his method I’m pretty sure
Clavicular doesn't know more than me bud, I knowledgemog him in this aspect. You think he's the holy grail or what? :soy:
copecel, you Will never ascend "chad by 2030"
It was 2028, and I already mog you to death bud. But yeah Chad will take some years, that's why I changed my signature.
Sat ra khona gha kitmegn bnbndm how braso ra ki drb wjho bmtr9a ou kayakhod androtartyl
Moroccan ramblings, no I'm not bonesmashing. I'm 100% sure bonesmashing isn't worth it bro, not a gatekeep.

I'm literally helping people out this way, they'd be better off getting instant results with fillers at this point instead of year-long bonesmashing for something that will result in a looksmin either way.
 
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Oh? So you claim roids give a "temporary bone mass" effect or what? That would make roiding even less pointless if you can only "look good" during a looksminned phase with increased sebum production and hair loss etc. My bad if I understood your message wrong.

I think those changes would happen at best only with years of AAS usage, making it a bad choice to max out your looks. And I have yet to see some great examples with roiding changing the facial structure.

I made a deep-dive into bonesmashing one time biologically speaking, you'd have to bonesmash for 2 years to at best see 1-2mm of bone projection. It could be done, but I wouldn't recommend it because of the soft tissue trauma, you shouldn't want to looksmin your skin as that is really important itself, so it's not a good trade with "bigger bones" and scar tissue.

Clavicular doesn't know more than me bud, I knowledgemog him in this aspect. You think he's the holy grail or what? :soy:

It was 2028, and I already mog you to death bud. But yeah Chad will take some years, that's why I changed my signature.

Moroccan ramblings, no I'm not bonesmashing. I'm 100% sure bonesmashing isn't worth it bro, not a gatekeep.

I'm literally helping people out this way, they'd be better off getting instant results with fillers at this point instead of year-long bonesmashing for something that will result in a looksmin either way.
I wasn’t talking abou that i was just jk with him
Gear and bonesmashing is cope
Even heightmaxxing is cope
 
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Only HGH changes facial structure to a significant extent and that can backfire as well because it grows the nose and ears too.
 
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Only HGH changes facial structure to a significant extent and that can backfire as well because it grows the nose and ears too.
Not even Hgh brp it just give you big ears and nose
 
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I wasn’t talking abou that i was just jk with him
Gear and bonesmashing is cope
Even heightmaxxing is cope
Why the switch up? Gatekeeping? jfl
 
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Why the switch up? Gatekeeping? jfl
Nah @20/04/2008 still believes in roiding being good before 14/15 obviously, if you know what you are doing though only.

He is just joking around because I have a more drastic view now. @chadisbeingmade
 
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Only HGH changes facial structure to a significant extent and that can backfire as well because it grows the nose and ears too.
Look at pics of Jay cutler before and after roids. Not a molecule changed other than his nose getting bigger JFL.

“looksmax.org”
 
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Look at pics of Jay cutler before and after roids. Not a molecule changed other than his nose getting bigger JFL.

“looksmax.org”
Exactly, lets say this whole transformation changed his bones you think its worth for the average joe to do mr olympia cycles? absolutely not.
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his nose even grew like you said, masseters increased in size, facial musculature etc. thats it not joking. dont get manipulated by the lighting and tons of muscle mass on his torso for anyone reading this.
 
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Oh? So you claim roids give a "temporary bone mass" effect or what? That would make roiding even less pointless if you can only "look good" during a looksminned phase with increased sebum production and hair loss etc. My bad if I understood your message wrong.

I think those changes would happen at best only with years of AAS usage, making it a bad choice to max out your looks. And I have yet to see some great examples with roiding changing the facial structure.

I made a deep-dive into bonesmashing one time biologically speaking, you'd have to bonesmash for 2 years to at best see 1-2mm of bone projection. It could be done, but I wouldn't recommend it because of the soft tissue trauma, you shouldn't want to looksmin your skin as that is really important itself, so it's not a good trade with "bigger bones" and scar tissue.

Clavicular doesn't know more than me bud, I knowledgemog him in this aspect. You think he's the holy grail or what? :soy:

It was 2028, and I already mog you to death bud. But yeah Chad will take some years, that's why I changed my signature.

Moroccan ramblings, no I'm not bonesmashing. I'm 100% sure bonesmashing isn't worth it bro, not a gatekeep.

I'm literally helping people out this way, they'd be better off getting instant results with fillers at this point instead of year-long bonesmashing for something that will result in a looksmin either way.
this Is Just yap DNR
 
just shut down org already. there is nothing you can do beside leanmaxxing, skinmaxxing and minoxidil
 
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i’ve had results but i’ve been bonesmashing for around 3 years. My eye area changed a ton people think my before is a different person
I'd like to meet your method.
 
Keep barking tbh, I can't do anything about your room temperature iq. What am I supposed to do with your claim that your identical twin looks different, ever thought about the possibility that there are other factors determining whether you will look like your twin?

Also you didn't provide any "bodybuilder face transformation" to this point.

My point still stands, even if roiding affected the face, no one does blast those amounts of gear (multiple grams of gear depending on AR sensitivity and other factors) needed for that type of growth.
Most pros literally start in their teens lol they are terrible examples. Same with the pic of young Jay Cutler you used above he was on them already. Look im bored of the argument. IDC if anybody wants to change their bones on roids or not. Mine changed (especially from heavy blasting tren and anadrol) and thats it. Female bodybuilders are also blatant examples of facial changes happening. As I said before do I think a little test will do it? No. but high amounts of more androgenic roids yes. Do I recommend roid use to 14 olds ?No

You just argue so strongly against it when you have no scientific evidence either way. Atleast I have some anecdotal evidence with my own experience.

This is what chat GPT things (not saying its always accurate) as it r elates to bone growth and age. Still changes to the area I said changed on me in my early twenties.
Brow ridge and cheekbones: These also become more prominent during puberty and stabilize by the early 20s.
Jaw and chin (mandible): These continue to grow the longest, often until around age 21.
Nasal bones and midface (maxilla): Typically reach near-adult size by age 16–18, but subtle growth may continue.

Mens bones are not done growing at 16 lol. Anybody can look at an 18 year old and look at the average 25 year old and see that. 18 year olds look like children. They might look fully grown to you because you're young but they are not. The face, neck, body continues to get thicker.

Athletes are exceptions to this rule because they have already basically sped up puberty by using roids from very young ages.

Anyway its besides the point because I don't think a bit of test will cause these changes and so anybody who theoretically wants to do it is risking their health and hair with high dose androgenic steroids.

I'M also the only person on this forum who has actually blasted high doses (apart from maybe a few others). Most of you talking about steroids haven't even taken them yet or have taken baby doses. With the health ancillaries and the knowledge today (was way less when I started) its much easier to use them in a healthy way.
 
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Most pros literally start in their teens lol they are terrible examples. Same with the pic of young Jay Cutler you used above he was on them already. Look im bored of the argument. IDC if anybody wants to change their bones on roids or not. Mine changed (especially from heavy blasting tren and anadrol) and thats it. Female bodybuilders are also blatant examples of facial changes happening. As I said before do I think a little test will do it? No. but high amounts of more androgenic roids yes. Do I recommend roid use to 14 olds ?No

You just argue so strongly against it when you have no scientific evidence either way. Atleast I have some anecdotal evidence with my own experience.

This is what chat GPT things (not saying its always accurate) as it r elates to bone growth and age. Still changes to the area I said changed on me in my early twenties.
Brow ridge and cheekbones: These also become more prominent during puberty and stabilize by the early 20s.
Jaw and chin (mandible): These continue to grow the longest, often until around age 21.
Nasal bones and midface (maxilla): Typically reach near-adult size by age 16–18, but subtle growth may continue.

Mens bones are not done growing at 16 lol. Anybody can look at an 18 year old and look at the average 25 year old and see that. 18 year olds look like children. They might look fully grown to you because you're young but they are not. The face, neck, body continues to get thicker.

Athletes are exceptions to this rule because they have already basically sped up puberty by using roids from very young ages.

Anyway its besides the point because I don't think a bit of test will cause these changes and so anybody who theoretically wants to do it is risking their health and hair with high dose androgenic steroids.

I'M also the only person on this forum who has actually blasted high doses (apart from maybe a few others). Most of you talking about steroids haven't even taken them yet or have taken baby doses. With the health ancillaries and the knowledge today (was way less when I started) its much easier to use them in a healthy way.
Would the bone thickening from high dose AAS even end in a net positive for your looks though ? Other than people with small almost undeveloped heads

I feel a lot of people here need surgery to fix stuff that roids wouldn’t theoretically help with

There’s someone that use to be here that actually competed that’s ran huge doses of gear I’ll try to find his user
(Not the morrocan guy )
 
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Would the bone thickening from high dose AAS even end in a net positive for your looks though ? Other than people with small almost undeveloped heads

I feel a lot of people here need surgery to fix stuff that roids wouldn’t theoretically help with
If you have serious recession/deformity's it wont. For allot of people it also wont necessarily benefit them. For me im happy with the changes because I have small nose thick medium length hair, thick lips. The larger/thicker/ more defined jawbone and cheekbones help to balance out my soft features. Compared to my brother I don't think he looks masculine enough because his bones didnt fill out/grow to the same extent.

Like I said you're rolling the dice at the end of the day so I dont necessarily recommend it im just saying my experience. I think aslong as you dont blast them for ages like an ifbb pro and/or use hgh shouldn't be so bad though. High dose HGH is the worst for making people look ugly for sure.
 
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If you have serious recession/deformity's it wont. For allot of people it also wont necessarily benefit them. For me im happy with the changes because I have small nose thick medium length hair, thick lips. The larger/thicker/ more defined jawbone and cheekbones help to balance out my soft features. Compared to my brother I don't think he looks masculine enough because his bones didnt fill out/grow to the same extent.

Like I said you're rolling the dice at the end of the day so I dont necessarily recommend it im just saying my experience. I think aslong as you dont blast them for ages like an ifbb pro and/or use hgh shouldn't be so bad though. High dose HGH is the worst for making people look ugly for sure.
I’m happy with my face rn but I was thinking about HGH to maybe get some height but idk if it would be worth
Grew up low nutrition bad sleep but still ended up 5’11 with wide shoulders. But the smallest hands and wrists out of my whole family. Like almost every girl I’ve held hands with has had the same size hands lmao
What’s considered high dose hgh ? Above 8?
 
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I’m happy with my face rn but I was thinking about HGH to maybe get some height but idk if it would be worth
Grew up low nutrition bad sleep but still ended up 5’11 with wide shoulders. But the smallest hands and wrists out of my whole family. Like almost every girl I’ve held hands with has had the same size hands lmao
What’s considered high dose hgh ? Above 8?
I feel if you take enough to make your hands grow you are prob risking the other negative changes. TBH how old are you. If you are 16 or smth thtey still might grow more because pretty sure mine did. Also you can create the illusion of them being bigger (hands) because the muscles get thicker in them/on your fingerss from lifting weights over time.

Wrist size is overrated (say that as somebody with 8 inch wrists). If you have wide clavicles it doesn't matter. People only say it matters because it can be an indicator of the rest of somebodys frame. wide shoulders, height, good proportions are most important.
 
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I feel if you take enough to make your hands grow you are prob risking the other negative changes. TBH how old are you. If you are 16 or smth thtey still might grow more because pretty sure mine did. Also you can create the illusion of them being bigger (hands) because the muscles get thicker in them/on your fingerss from lifting weights over time.

Wrist size is overrated (say that as somebody with 8 inch wrists). If you have wide clavicles it doesn't matter. People only say it matters because it can be an indicator of the rest of somebodys frame. wide shoulders, height, good proportions are most important.
I was just mentioning my stats cus maybe if I grew up fine while being malnourished maybe hormones can bring me to the next step up. Wasn’t planning on hgh to grow hands lmao just might be a sign I grew up with lower igf1/hormones. But i guess there’s 100x other factors and exogenous hormones might trigger another spurt or do fuck all
But I should prob get full hormone panel + X-rays before starting anything
I’m 17

Also the other guy that I think has used a lot of gear similar to u is @DORIAN
 
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I was just mentioning my stats cus maybe if I grew up fine while being malnourished maybe hormones can bring me to the next step up. Wasn’t planning on hgh to grow hands lmao just might be a sign I grew up with lower igf1/hormones. But i guess there’s 100x other factors and exogenous hormones might trigger another spurt or do fuck all
But I should prob get full hormone panel + X-rays before starting anything
I’m 17

Also the other guy that I think has used a lot of gear similar to u is @DORIAN
Id relax then. I remember feeling small at 17 but I grew allot especially after roid use when 20+. The reality is most 17-18 year olds are just small if not in height in overall size. I dont see many 18 year olds (that arent fat) who look thick/heavy set.
 
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Would the bone thickening from high dose AAS even end in a net positive for your looks though ? Other than people with small almost undeveloped heads

I feel a lot of people here need surgery to fix stuff that roids wouldn’t theoretically help with

There’s someone that use to be here that actually competed that’s ran huge doses of gear I’ll try to find his user
(Not the morrocan guy )
Skullcels and feminine guys with otherwise good features would benefit a lot from AAS and HGH and especially on a heavy bulk. Regardless of the bone growth just having increased fat and muscles in your face is a huge looksmaxx.

Here is an example of Patrick Schwarzenegger. He is a good looking kid but he would 100% ascend on high doses of AAS and HGH:

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Id relax then. I remember feeling small at 17 but I grew allot especially after roid use when 20+. The reality is most 17-18 year olds are just small if not in height in overall size. I dont see many 18 year olds (that arent fat) who look thick/heavy set.
I was thinking I might regret not injecting hgh or anything else to maybe reach 6’1
My moms side is consistently 6’3 while my dads side is 5’10
Thoughts on hgh to grow taller? Assuming X-rays say I’m not done growing

And I do need a little more size 150lb at 5’11
Most confrontations I’ve had was coincidentally from ugly gymcels when I was hanging out with pretty girls
 
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I was thinking I might regret not injecting hgh or anything else to maybe reach 6’1
My moms side is consistently 6’3 while my dads side is 5’10
Thoughts on hgh to grow taller? Assuming X-rays say I’m not done growing

And I do need a little more size 150lb at 5’11
Most confrontations I’ve had was coincidentally from ugly gymcels when I was hanging out with pretty girls
I wouldnt. 5ft11 is a decent height anyway. im5ft11 and dont feel small. U just need to go to the gym and gain some muscle I'm about about 211 pounds now just on trt and feel bigger then most people. U will feel larger as u grow older and you get bigger.
 
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Most pros literally start in their teens lol they are terrible examples. Same with the pic of young Jay Cutler you used above he was on them already. Look im bored of the argument. IDC if anybody wants to change their bones on roids or not. Mine changed (especially from heavy blasting tren and anadrol) and thats it. Female bodybuilders are also blatant examples of facial changes happening. As I said before do I think a little test will do it? No. but high amounts of more androgenic roids yes. Do I recommend roid use to 14 olds ?No

You just argue so strongly against it when you have no scientific evidence either way. Atleast I have some anecdotal evidence with my own experience.

This is what chat GPT things (not saying its always accurate) as it r elates to bone growth and age. Still changes to the area I said changed on me in my early twenties.
Brow ridge and cheekbones: These also become more prominent during puberty and stabilize by the early 20s.
Jaw and chin (mandible): These continue to grow the longest, often until around age 21.
Nasal bones and midface (maxilla): Typically reach near-adult size by age 16–18, but subtle growth may continue.

Mens bones are not done growing at 16 lol. Anybody can look at an 18 year old and look at the average 25 year old and see that. 18 year olds look like children. They might look fully grown to you because you're young but they are not. The face, neck, body continues to get thicker.

Athletes are exceptions to this rule because they have already basically sped up puberty by using roids from very young ages.

Anyway its besides the point because I don't think a bit of test will cause these changes and so anybody who theoretically wants to do it is risking their health and hair with high dose androgenic steroids.

I'M also the only person on this forum who has actually blasted high doses (apart from maybe a few others). Most of you talking about steroids haven't even taken them yet or have taken baby doses. With the health ancillaries and the knowledge today (was way less when I started) its much easier to use them in a healthy way.
Nigga I don't know why you replied so late, but here is some scientific evidence for you. Brutal pill to swallow tbh.

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As you see everything stops growing at 14-16. After that age it is completely over for any changes to occur.

Also the argument with the female bodybuilders doesn't make sense because they can also grow their clits, can men do that with their male counterpart? No. They were never exposed to many androgens to begin with, that's why you can't compare their physiology with us men.
I was just mentioning my stats cus maybe if I grew up fine while being malnourished maybe hormones can bring me to the next step up. Wasn’t planning on hgh to grow hands lmao just might be a sign I grew up with lower igf1/hormones. But i guess there’s 100x other factors and exogenous hormones might trigger another spurt or do fuck all
But I should prob get full hormone panel + X-rays before starting anything
I’m 17

Also the other guy that I think has used a lot of gear similar to u is @DORIAN
@DORIAN has a lot of experience and many clients, I can vouch. If you are interested in his services hit him up, he can surely help you.
Skullcels and feminine guys with otherwise good features would benefit a lot from AAS and HGH and especially on a heavy bulk. Regardless of the bone growth just having increased fat and muscles in your face is a huge looksmaxx.

Here is an example of Patrick Schwarzenegger. He is a good looking kid but he would 100% ascend on high doses of AAS and HGH:

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Your brain is so fucking simple. You associate every positive attribute you want to achieve with those two compound classes.

The same shit with everyone blaming DHT for everything they have experienced in life.

I have low libido? It's the finasteride. My skull grew? It surely was the DHT. :feelskek:

normies.org

@chadisbeingmade
 
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I have seen permanent change in zygos bonesmashing + 5 HGH + 300 test so DNR
 
Your brain is so fucking simple. You associate every positive attribute you want to achieve with those two compound classes.

The same shit with everyone blaming DHT for everything they have experienced in life.

I have low libido? It's the finasteride. My skull grew? It surely was the DHT.

Lol and how did you come to that conclusion from my comment above?? I think your counterfeit steroids were laced up with drugs and you have brain damage now.
 
Nigga I don't know why you replied so late, but here is some scientific evidence for you. Brutal pill to swallow tbh.

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As you see everything stops growing at 14-16. After that age it is completely over for any changes to occur.

Also the argument with the female bodybuilders doesn't make sense because they can also grow their clits, can men do that with their male counterpart? No. They were never exposed to many androgens to begin with, that's why you can't compare their physiology with us men.

@DORIAN has a lot of experience and many clients, I can vouch. If you are interested in his services hit him up, he can surely help you.

Your brain is so fucking simple. You associate every positive attribute you want to achieve with those two compound classes.

The same shit with everyone blaming DHT for everything they have experienced in life.

I have low libido? It's the finasteride. My skull grew? It surely was the DHT. :feelskek:

normies.org

@chadisbeingmade
post the full study anybody can nitpick a little study to fit the point they want to prove. Its not a brutal pill to swallow I dont care I have my mum for reference who says I look totally different and 'the peptides or steroids u used made ur face grow' as she say. Old high school friends (twins share friend groups usually) who say we look totally different. My face masculinised and the only reason I can think it would of is roids.

Women can microdose test and anavar and see no or little facial changes thats my point. But its only when they use the heavy stuff the bones begin to thicken and grow.

Literally everything ive seens says growth end early-mid 20s and that lines up with the fact most 18 year olds still looking like children.
 
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