Botched by GIANT Implants in turkey (Giant Responses Included)

[fika2]

One thing I want to know is that was the design flawed or the execution of the plan by surgeon? Also who was your surgeon?

same. i think thats really important. it looks like a design issue when it comes to the implant misplacement

 

[pat]

@RealSurgerymax

can you respond to this point?

How did this happen? Is this normal?

misplacing cheek implants isnt normal (fyi the cheeks were wider beyond the jaw and not as high as my previous ones)
misplacing chin implant isnt normal
why bother getting custom implants at all when it cant even be executed properly.
he suggested that a wrap around style for the next surgery would be much better in my case re jaw.. why the hell was this not offered the first time if he was the expert. its very easy to say that after the surgery is done. theres no room for error considering how much he bangs on about how precise he is and how much he trash talks other drs designs befoe the patient came to him. dont blame the patient for design he paid a "professional" for.

 

[fika2]

misplacing cheek implants isnt normal (fyi the cheeks were wider beyond the jaw and not as high as my previous ones)
misplacing chin implant isnt normal
why bother getting custom implants at all when it cant even be executed properly.
he suggested that a wrap around style for the next surgery would be much better in my case re jaw.. why the hell was this not offered the first time if he was the expert. its very easy to say that after the surgery is done. theres no room for error considering how much he bangs on about how precise he is and how much he trash talks other drs designs befoe the patient came to him. dont blame the patient for design he paid a "professional" for.

yeah my thoughts exactly.

to be honest, after reviewing your messages, I do think you had unrealistic expectations and were ignorant of the risks but at the same time. as you said misplaced implants are pretty insane and he does always talk about how precise he is. I really want to know if this is a surgeon issue or a designer issue. and if it is a surgeon issue I would really like some clarity on if he's going to continue to use this surgeon who fucked up the placement.

 

[pat]

t

yeah my thoughts exactly.

to be honest, after reviewing your messages, I do think you had unrealistic expectations and were ignorant of the risks but at the same time. as you said misplaced implants are pretty insane and he does always talk about how precise he is. I really want to know if this is a surgeon issue or a designer issue. and if it is a surgeon issue I would really like some clarity on if he's going to continue to use this surgeon who fucked up the placement.

thats totally fine im not here for anyone to believe me, im only sharing my experience at the request of many. they were both there in the OR working on me. infact hes very particular about how he must be there to guide the drs on exactly how he wants it.... it takes two to tango.

 

[kana]

call me crazy but i feel like these implants are comically large, no wonder he looks so uncanny, looksmaxxing retards will never have a non skewed realistic view of modern beauty standards

yea surely a jaw that’s 5% wider then your cheekbones will look ideal

 

[Sicilian Cyclops]

call me crazy but i feel like these implants are comically large, no wonder he looks so uncanny, looksmaxxing retards will never have a non skewed realistic view of modern beauty standards

yea surely a jaw that’s 5% wider then your cheekbones will look ideal

cope this is the ideal male. 3 fwhr is mogger

 

[Sicilian Cyclops]

call me crazy but i feel like these implants are comically large, no wonder he looks so uncanny, looksmaxxing retards will never have a non skewed realistic view of modern beauty standards

yea surely a jaw that’s 5% wider then your cheekbones will look ideal

For real though, it looks super comical. Flared gonians are and always were a retarded PSL autist meme. They completely destroy any harmony and make you look like a bikeseat.

Also they look like they were installed by a child. look at this one, look at dem gaps

 

[kana]

For real though, it looks super comical. Flared gonians are and always were a retarded PSL autist meme.

Also they also look like they were installed by a child. look at this one, look at dem gaps

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wide jaw is kind of a .org retard meme, it’s more about jaw angularity and harmony rather then width and mass

a narrow defined jaw >>> a wide retarded ogre jaw

 

[Sicilian Cyclops]

wide jaw is kind of a .org retard meme, it’s more about jaw angularity and harmony rather then width and mass

a narrow defined jaw >>> a wide retarded ogre jaw

100% agree

 

[pat]

call me crazy but i feel like these implants are comically large, no wonder he looks so uncanny, looksmaxxing retards will never have a non skewed realistic view of modern beauty standards

yea surely a jaw that’s 5% wider then your cheekbones will look ideal

For real though, it looks super comical. Flared gonians are and always were a retarded PSL autist meme.

Also they also look like they were installed by a child. look at this one, look at dem gaps

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my previous implant wrapped further down the mandible and my old chin implant wrapped around almost touching the jaw. HE took that away and made the gap even bigger and blames me for being extreme. so much for not taking extreme cases anymore but is quite happy to do a orbital box osteotomy and a 20 peice lefort like its a god damn jigsaw puzzle. i cant even..

i had a previous jaw implant in there and due to its nature i was told by previous plastic surgeons i am able to accomodate a similar size because they acted as a placeholder and the tissues would allow for it. hence why the size is on the larger side. but he totally disregarded the shape and style, positioning and execution of it. and the cheeks... well i cant even go there. they were an absolute trainwreck.

 

[Sicilian Cyclops]

@Ape101 when will you post results niglet. we gotta see how you turned out

 

[fika2]

call me crazy but i feel like these implants are comically large, no wonder he looks so uncanny, looksmaxxing retards will never have a non skewed realistic view of modern beauty standards

yea surely a jaw that’s 5% wider then your cheekbones will look ideal

i think his picture with the implant in actually looks amazing. both with epplys and giants
His jaw is top tier in both pics

 

[pat]

i think his picture with the implant in actually looks amazing. both with epplys and giants
His jaw is top tier in both pics

fyi eppley did not do my jaw, although i wish he did. they were done over ten years ago by a dr who is now retired. my old cheek implants were done by eppley. but only semi custom made. and my god looking back they were a godsend compared to what giant gave me.

 

[fika2]

t

thats totally fine im not here for anyone to believe me, im only sharing my experience at the request of many. they were both there in the OR working on me. infact hes very particular about how he must be there to guide the drs on exactly how he wants it.... it takes two to tango.

no no, i believe you. it really does look like you did get done dirty with the lack of responses and the implant placement. but i also believe you are a surgery addict with unrealistic expectations and distorted views. I also believe you were uninformed when it comes to the risk of infection. its not necessarily his fault if he took all the proper precautions, but it seems like he admitted that he didn't take the steps to mitigate the infection risk

 

[fika2]

fyi eppley did not do my jaw, although i wish he did. they were done over ten years ago by a dr who is now retired. my old cheek implants were done by eppley. but only semi custom made. and my god looking back they were a godsend compared to what giant gave me.

did you have any issues with epply or either implant in terms of bone resorption or anything? I had my lips done with epply

 

[fika2]

t

thats totally fine im not here for anyone to believe me, im only sharing my experience at the request of many. they were both there in the OR working on me. infact hes very particular about how he must be there to guide the drs on exactly how he wants it.... it takes two to tango.

you should have mentioned this in the post. this changes a lot if its true. if he's responsible for the placement ,then there's no questioning if its his fault or the surgeon's. if he diesnged and made sure they placed it where he wanted it

 

[pat]

s

no no, i believe you. it really does look like you did get done dirty with the lack of responses and the implant placement. but i also believe you are a surgery addict with unrealistic expectations and distorted views. I also believe you were uninformed when it comes to the risk of infection. its not necessarily his fault if he took all the proper precautions, but it seems like he admitted that he didn't take the steps to mitigate the infection risk

and stringing someone along and leaving them stranded in another country and dropping any communication in the month leading up to surgery was the final blow for me. thats where i draw the line. noone deserves that and there is no excuse for it.

 

[Yeagerist]

firstly you are breaching patient trust by showing my photos. ill be forwarding this to my lawyer.

I checked with my lawyer before posting, that's why it took so long for me to respond. You are NOT free to say anything you want to cause intentional

Over if you have to explain to a lawyer what looksmax.org is and why its full of men arguing over which male models looks better

 

[pat]

did you have any issues with epply or either implant in terms of bone resorption or anything? I had my lips done with epply

i have no words for dr eppley. he is kind, gratious, brilliant in his field and i was very looked after.

 

[fika2]

s

and stringing someone along and leaving them stranded in another country and dropping any communication in the month leading up to surgery was the final blow for me. thats where i draw the line. noone deserves that and there is no excuse for it.

yeah i agree, he did mention it was a mistake but at the same time after realizing the mistake he should have gone above and beyond to fix it.

as a business owner this is what I do. big fuck ups are bound to happen eventually but its his responsibility to stay attentive and try to give you the best solution afterwards.

also to be fair on his end you seem like a hard person to deal with. especially if your going back and forth saying your going to other doctors and all this other bull shit.

i think your both in the wrong but I'm sideing with him more slightly just because I think you had improper expectations and didn't understand the potential risks / complications

but he also messed up in MANY ways

 

[pat]

yeah i agree, he did mention it was a mistake but at the same time after realizing the mistake he should have gone above and beyond to fix it.

as a business owner this is what I do. big fuck ups are bound to happen eventually but its his responsibility to stay attentive and try to give you the best solution afterwards.

also to be fair on his end you seem like a hard person to deal with. especially if your going back and forth saying your going to other doctors and all this other bull shit.

i think your both in the wrong but I'm sideing with him more slightly just because I think you had improper expectations and didn't understand the potential risks / complications

but he also messed up in MANY way

did you have any issues with epply or either implant in terms of bone resorption or anything? I had my lips done with epply

not that i know of. never had major issues with silastic implants. i didnt find titanium any better.

 

[pat]

i think his picture with the implant in actually looks amazing. both with epplys and giants
His jaw is top tier in both pics

under some great lights, holding the face up and tight, sucking your neck in and a beauty filter it looks passable. but really cant go past a poor design, submental and cheek laxity and a deep labiomental fold.

 

[ltnsyn]

low iq activities

 

[fika2]

my previous implant wrapped further down the mandible and my old chin implant wrapped around almost touching the jaw. HE took that away and made the gap even bigger and blames me for being extreme. so much for not taking extreme cases anymore but is quite happy to do a orbital box osteotomy and a 20 peice lefort like its a god damn jigsaw puzzle. i cant even..

i had a previous jaw implant in there and due to its nature i was told by previous plastic surgeons i am able to accomodate a similar size because they acted as a placeholder and the tissues would allow for it. hence why the size is on the larger side. but he totally disregarded the shape and style, positioning and execution of it. and the cheeks... well i cant even go there. they were an absolute trainwreck.

the 20 piece lefort is a meme and the orbital box osteotomy while its an extreme surgery its not a crazy over inflated result. your implant size look like they are from a cartoon

 

[pat]

the 20 piece lefort is a meme and the orbital box osteotomy while its an extreme surgery its not a crazy over inflated result. your implant size look like they are from a cartoon

fyi i didnt design these..

 

[Deleted member 110398]

MY GUY GOT IMPLANTS FROM A PEPE THE FROG AVI AND WONDERED WHY HE GOT BOTCHED

 

[chrishell]

under some great lights, holding the face up and tight, sucking your neck in and a beauty filter it looks passable. but really cant go past a poor design, submental and cheek laxity and a deep labiomental fold.

Can you describe the effect the implant itself and then the infection had on your midface soft tissues

 

[Prøphet]

MY GUY GOT IMPLANTS FROM A PEPE THE FROG AVI AND WONDERED WHY HE GOT BOTCHED

 

[Deleted member 131140]

I am sorry but what?
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I guess the intern who made this was not paid satisfactorily

 

[fika2]

fyi i didnt design these..

you approved of the design though correct? he didnt just showup and put these in your face without your knowledge and approval

 

[pat]

Can you describe the effect the implant itself and then the infection had on your midface soft tissues

due to to gigantic size and surface coverage of the cheeks insterting and removing them left me with midface laxity. there is no way any designer or dr would design a cheek implants that makes you look like madonna on a bad day. not to mention the major misplacement and ecoli infection. on the contrary because he disregarded the shape of my previous jaw implant my jaw now has laxity because a "smaller" less wrap around implant was placed. there was empty "dead space" now which collected fluid and led to the problems you see now. this is why i keep pointing out how important it was to keep the size if i was to change them. not for aesthetic reasons only. my tissues had accomodated for large implants for 10 years and he put a downgraded one in there and it simply wasnt enough to hold the tissues tight. now i am left with delfated cheeks, deflated jaw, and loose skin under my neck and jowling and a poor jawline compared to what i used to have. kinda like when you get breast implants and go smaller. and now that the fuckup has been done i am being labelled as being too extreme because i was assured everything will look better than my starting point. ive gone 5 steps backward. these are the things i was assured

1- new jaw will be exactly same size maybe even a little bigger if it can fit, and a much better contour - false
2- the new cheeks will have much more better defintion and is a higher cheek bone than dr eppleys (major false)
3- chin will be more masculine with definition and will get rid of the step off i had with previous genioplasty. somewhat true but false on the step off part. the step off is even worse when you look at the gap between the chin and jaw flaps.

these things blew out all the proportions of my face and compared to what i had my face as a whole has become more compact and smaller. not aesthetic traits a male should have. period.

 

[pat]

you approved of the design though correct? he didnt just showup and put these in your face without your knowledge and approval

i was shown the designs yes but i must stress when you are patient putting your trust in someone and you tell them what you like and dont like and they come up with a design you approve of it because you trust them to bring it to life. i questioned the cheek renders and the jaw and i was told to not worry it will be fine, "everything looks great, perfect actually". and i trusted that because i thought i had come to the right place. i only know so much about renders and how it will translate to real life. this is why we pay designers and drs for.
after my surgery when i questioned my concerns was told that "even though the renders looked great it does not in real life. were looking at a revision of the cheeks jaw and chin. shouldnt be a problem, very fixable and the surgery wont be as brutal as the first as the path has already been made".

 

[fika2]

due to to gigantic size and surface coverage of the cheeks insterting and removing them left me with midface laxity. there is no way any designer or dr would design a cheek implants that makes you look like madonna on a bad day. on the contrary because he disregarded the shape of my previous jaw implant my jaw now has laxity because a "smaller" less wrap around implant was placed. there was empty "dead space" now which collected fluid and led to the problems you see now. this is why i keep pointing out how important it was to keep the size if i was to change them. not for aesthetic reasons only. my tissues had accomodated for large implants for 10 years and he put a downgraded one in there and it simply wasnt enough to hold the tissues tight. now i am left with delfated cheeks, deflated jaw, and loose skin under my neck and jowling and a poor jawline compared to what i used to have. kinda like when you get breast implants and go smaller. and now that the fuckup has been done i am being labelled as being too extreme because i was assured everything will look better than my starting point. ive gone 5 steps backward. these are the things i was assured

1- new jaw will be exactly same size maybe even a little bigger if it can fit, and a much better contour - false
2- the new cheeks will have much more better defintion and is a higher cheek bone than dr eppleys (major false)
3- chin will be more masculine with definition and will get rid of the step off i had with previous genioplasty. somewhat true but false on the step off part. the step off is even worse when you look at the gap between the chin and jaw flaps.

these things blew out all the proportions of my face and compared to what i had my face as a whole has become more compact and smaller. not aesthetic traits a male should have. period.

are you able to write everything out in a document with screenshotted evidence for every claim? and then make the link shareable? if you really want to bring attention to this I think this is the best way to go about it. it would get shared everywhere if he was really in the wrong by a high margin

and it wouldn't just stay in a niche .org thread. it would go everywhere. discord, reddit, google searched etc

 

[fika2]

i was shown the designs yes but i must stress when you are patient putting your trust in someone and you tell them what you like and dont like and they come up with a design you approve of it because you trust them to bring it to life. i questioned the cheek renders and the jaw and i was told to not worry it will be fine, "everything looks great, perfect actually". and i trusted that because i thought i had come to the right place. i only know so much about renders and how it will translate to real life. this is why we pay designers and drs for.
after my surgery when i questioned my concerns was told that "even though the renders looked great it does not in real life. were looking at a revision of the cheeks jaw and chin. shouldnt be a problem, very fixable and the surgery wont be as brutal as the first as the path has already been made".

yeah this is valid. i personally think the patient should do a lot of research to know exactly what they want, but obviously you shouldn't be expected to know how the actual implant design will look irl.

if he admitted it looked bad and that you'll need a revision, that alone is quite scary. i hope this is just a one off case because you were so extreme

 

[pat]

my

are you able to write everything out in a document with screenshotted evidence for every claim? and then make the link shareable? if you really want to bring attention to this I think this is the best way to go about it. it would get shared everywhere if he was really in the wrong by a high margin

and it wouldn't just stay in a niche .org thread. it would go everywhere. discord, reddit, google searched etc

my goal was never to hurt people. ive lost everything and my case has become public because i had so many people asking me to share my story. ive sacrificed my privacy for this and more so because HE thinks its ok to share my photos. people can either believe it or not or bits and peices of it. i hope noone goes through what i did. not just surgically but psycologically. i felt so powerless and defeated and now im speaking up. and even after all this shit. he fails to reimburse me even after telling me his covering all expenses of my implants revision and flights back to turkey after he stood me up. it was all a absolute lie.

 

[fika2]

my

my goal was never to hurt people. ive lost everything and my case has become public because i had so many people asking me to share my story. ive sacrificed my privacy for this and more so because HE thinks its ok to share my photos. people can either believe it or not or bits and peices of it. i hope noone goes through what i did. not just surgically but psycologically. i felt so powerless and defeated and now im speaking up. and even after all this shit. he fails to reimburse me even after telling me his covering all expenses of my implants revision and flights back to turkey after he stood me up. it was all a absolute lie.

yeah, i think your both in the wrong but he's really fucking you over.

but since I don't have the full context of everything its hard to pick a side. I'm going to him for surgery anyways because I still do think he's not only the best at what he does but he's also the most innovative, and most customizable

plus you really can't beat the price even tho finances its not a factor for me.

 

[Naris030]

Why did you go for bigger implants when you were happy with eppley’s, if you don’t mind me asking.

 

[pat]

Why did you go for bigger implants when you were happy with eppley’s, if you don’t mind me asking.

just to confirm the jaw wasnt done by eppley. only my previous cheeks and chin (non custom). i explained during my zoom call how i was happy to leave in it in there as i was happy with it. however it was slightly asymetric. i had a dominent side which i wanted the other side matched. somewhere along the lines it was decided to just remove it all and replace them.

 

[jon_chase89]

just to confirm the jaw wasnt done by eppley. only my previous cheeks and chin (non custom). i explained during my zoom call how i was happy to leave in it in there as i was happy with it. however it was slightly asymetric. i had a dominent side which i wanted the other side matched. somewhere along the lines it was decided to just remove it all and replace them.

Probably because medpor is radioluscent so there would be no way to match the dominant side on a CT scan, they'd just be guessing

 

[RazerGlazer]

Just not worth it. Better to be ugly

Very bad mentality and I don't recommend following this guy advice.

You should do whatever it takes for you to ascend, look better so that you can actually have a good life, family and able to reproduce.

 

[Forget it]

yeah, i think your both in the wrong but he's really fucking you over.

but since I don't have the full context of everything its hard to pick a side. I'm going to him for surgery anyways because I still do think he's not only the best at what he does but he's also the most innovative, and most customizable

plus you really can't beat the price even tho finances its not a factor for me.

“Both in the wrong”
What are you talking about?! The designer and the doctor were majorly incompetent. And caused massive problems that the patient had to suffer from. If a patient is “extreme”, (gaslighting deflecting tactic so the patient bears all responsibility, then the doctors don’t take that patient at consultation phase)

The amount of clueless people here blaming the patient. You have no idea what you’re talking about. And the morons everywhere constantly patient blaming. They said they could do a thing and majorly fucked up.
Ego on everyone here just so they can appear authoritative on something they don’t have any experience or knowledge on.

Once again. My best wishes to this patient for coming forward, not just for all the suffering but to deal with people on this forum who bash without knowing anything. I’m sure there’s lots of quiet lurkers that you will help. Thanks

 

[chrishell]

due to to gigantic size and surface coverage of the cheeks insterting and removing them left me with midface laxity. there is no way any designer or dr would design a cheek implants that makes you look like madonna on a bad day. not to mention the major misplacement and ecoli infection. on the contrary because he disregarded the shape of my previous jaw implant my jaw now has laxity because a "smaller" less wrap around implant was placed. there was empty "dead space" now which collected fluid and led to the problems you see now. this is why i keep pointing out how important it was to keep the size if i was to change them. not for aesthetic reasons only. my tissues had accomodated for large implants for 10 years and he put a downgraded one in there and it simply wasnt enough to hold the tissues tight. now i am left with delfated cheeks, deflated jaw, and loose skin under my neck and jowling and a poor jawline compared to what i used to have. kinda like when you get breast implants and go smaller. and now that the fuckup has been done i am being labelled as being too extreme because i was assured everything will look better than my starting point. ive gone 5 steps backward. these are the things i was assured

1- new jaw will be exactly same size maybe even a little bigger if it can fit, and a much better contour - false
2- the new cheeks will have much more better defintion and is a higher cheek bone than dr eppleys (major false)
3- chin will be more masculine with definition and will get rid of the step off i had with previous genioplasty. somewhat true but false on the step off part. the step off is even worse when you look at the gap between the chin and jaw flaps.

these things blew out all the proportions of my face and compared to what i had my face as a whole has become more compact and smaller. not aesthetic traits a male should have. period.

How many mm projection were the malars and infras

 

[Gengar]

i havent read the whole thread but why are people trusting someone named 'giant implants' with a meme pfp, it seems about as untrustworthy as it gets, also my condolences for the damage done

I have read every word and while I sympathize with the OP, I can't help but wonder what the hell he was thinking. Why is he talking to a medical student? With an obvious Pepe/meme logo? In any case, it's sad. Not just this case of botched surgery, but also when you look at the root of the problem. He was not satisfied with his natural looks so he opted for surgery. I have more things to say but these would probably make him feel bad, so I'll not say anything. Hopefully he will have his problems fixed, even if it's with another surgeon. This Giant guy is definitely not gonna wanna have to deal with OP now that he's called him out like that. Oh well.

 

[redbulljaw]

I have read every word and while I sympathize with the OP, I can't help but wonder what the hell he was thinking. Why is he talking to a medical student? With an obvious Pepe/meme logo? In any case, it's sad. Not just this case of botched surgery, but also when you look at the root of the problem. He was not satisfied with his natural looks so he opted for surgery. I have more things to say but these would probably make him feel bad, so I'll not say anything. Hopefully he will have his problems fixed, even if it's with another surgeon. This Giant guy is definitely not gonna wanna have to deal with OP now that he's called him out like that. Oh well.

I agree, i feel very bad but i wonder how people follow random peoples reccomendations for such life changing surgerys so blindly, yes surgery can be sucessful however even the most experienced surgeons have caused multiple botched results. Its just not an industry thats at a level of quality assurance of which anyone should really trust for such surgerys at this time, as technology develops and surgery becomes much more reliable im sure it will become not only more trustworthy but also cheaper, but at this time it just doesnt seem that the risk is worth the reward, having a slightly better feature isnt worth the chance of having your whole future ruined. furthermore many surgeries cause health problems along with faded results in the future. The high price tag should be a warning that this practice is so risky not only to the patient but to the surgeons reputation, which is why there are so few who can or will provide the service for you.

 

[BM7]

Pat, can u take a picture of your mouth? I want to see your gums

 

[Radiantmetal]

…

 

[LEFORT17]

Here is the result of one of Giant’s Orbital box osteotomy and orbital implants patients, actually the before is a bit morphed of what he actually needed (Hair transplant), but look at the eyes and cheeks


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Whats Giant excuse here, those canthoplasty scars are inexcusable.

nah he was fine before

 

[Radiantmetal]

nah he was fine before

l didn’t say this was a good result bruh

 

[LEFORT17]

l didn’t say this was a good result bruh

should have saved the 30k ngl

 

[HerpDerpson]

Here is the result of one of Giant’s Orbital box osteotomy and orbital implants patients, actually the before is a bit morphed of what he actually needed (Hair transplant), but look at the eyes and cheeks


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Whats Giant excuse here, those canthoplasty scars are inexcusable.

Scars and asymmetry are like whatever, he looks tremendously better even with them, but it's very worrying that outer corners of his eyelids don't align with the eyes.