Dickmax guide for circumsizedcells and how to finally succeed at NOFAP

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So i wrote a little dick maxxing guide or at least some ideas in another thread as a reply. Now i was finally able to buy a bathmate and start my dick restoration journey. This is a very important post for everybody who has been circumsized. I know face > dick but trust me, unless you are Gigachad, having a big dick is a huge halo, makes you seem more dominant and can bind girls better to you thorugh dominant cave men sex.

But whats the average penis size?
The truth is, most guys are around 5 inches NBPEL(just whats sticking outside) and 6 inches in BPEL (pushing the ruler in). This doesnt take in account that most guys are fat, out of shape, have bad blood flow and low testosterone. The average size of a active sex haver and slayer is probably one inch more in both measurements. Girth average is about 4.7 inches.

Whats the ideal penis size?
There has been one study where women could decide between several dildo sizes and they chose something around 6.5 inches in length. Mind, this is a dildo model, so its has to be compared to NPBEL. Most guys have a 0.5 inch fat pad. So ideal penis length is 7inches BPEL and 6.5 NBPEL.
For girth, we know that girth is way more important then length. Length becomes important after the threshold for girth is met. So someone who has 8 inches but lacks girth will make the girl feel absolutely nothing. Girth gives the feeling of being stretched out. The prefered size is 5 inches, but i think you can stretch it to 5.1-5.5 depending on the women. I would rather be a little to big than be to small so the goal should be at least 5, but until 5.5 is preferable if possible. Anything upwards 5.5 is just a headache and will be too big for the majority of girls.

Whats the issue with being circumsized?
Now lets get to the core of this thread. There are many dick maxing guides out there but very little that take into account what circumsizion does to the human penis.

1. It makes you desensitized and therefore a degenerate coomer
Why are arabs and middle eastern guys so perverted? Why are so many jewish people pedophiles? Why was there a brothel with a orangutan in Indonesia?
When ones orgasm isnt satisfying, its becomes less rewarding. You wont be really satisfied sexually afterwards. I remember when i had my first orgasm before my penis size grew and i had too little skin. I felt the orgasm in my whole body. But with time, i had less and less skin and the orgasms now feel just like a little nice feeling in the penis for maybe 2-3 seconds.

You can be excited by two ways. One is the dopaminergic activity of sex, porn or masturbating to fantasy. It increases sensations in the penis. The more excited you are mentally, the more you feel in your penis. When someone is circumsized and he masturbates, he will feel 80-90% less than a uncircumsized guy. So he will try to compensate that by increasing excitement. The body and brain of course gets accustomed to that and increases the exitement threshold. This forces you to become a degenerate coomer, in a vicious cycle of trying to finally have a satisfying climax and desentisize yourself even further.

Thats why foreskin restoration is a key step to succeed at NOFAP (or at least Noporn). I wont dive into all the reason why you should do NOFAP but lets be honest here with ourselfs. Do we really want to be guys jerking off everyday to some degenerate porn, frying our dopamine receptors? Would we be proud to tell some stranger about our habits? There is nothing shameful about having sex, or jerking off once a week or so to a fantasy. But watching disgusting porn and jerking off everyday is just not a habit ANYONE wants to have. And dont forget, desensitization from Porn/Masturbating will make your penis smaller by having lower erection quality and hardness.

2. It makes your penis smaller
When circumsized, a gay loses a big portion of his skin. When its done in chilldhood and the penis grows afterwards, there is even less skin. Now imagine what happens when a dick gets erect without sufficient skin supporting it? The skin around the testicles and pubic bone will get pulled onto the penis, automatically putting the base of the penis into the body. So the difference between BPEL and NBPEL is increased by a big portion.
There is a big cope in the penis enlargement community (probably my some fat asses) that BPEL and NBPEL are equally important. The argument is that at sex, you will also compress the fat on the pubic bone. The truth is, the amount of times where you can fully compress it at sex are soo little that it doesnt matter how much you can gain by compressing. Now most skinny guys have a small difference between BPEL and NBPEL, mostly 1/8 inch maybe 1/4. But many many guys are little chubby and have too little skin from circumsizion. So their difference is more like one inch (for me its even 1.5 inch). 1 Inch less penis to use in sex. One inch is a lot, its can be the difference between average and small. NOBODY in the PE community gives a shit for a weird reason.

How to makes your dick bigger and restore the foreskin
So the first step is to buy a water pump, for example the bathmate. The bathmate will help you in three very interesting ways.

1. it builds up lymphatic fluid
Using the bathmate will temporarily increases your dick size by building up lymphatic fluid. My normal girth was 4.6-4.7 inches, in the first week with the bathmate, after a session i measured around 5 to 5.1 inches. 0.4 inches in girth make a huge difference. I had sex directly afterwards to test if the size increasement is usable and it is! My gf had trouble taking it without easing in because she was used to my pre bathmate size.
Now this is a huge benefit of the fluid build up but the actually reason its so important is, that it stretches your skin. Using the bathmate will over time increase your skin tissue through mitosis and therefore be the first step for you to get your foreskin back.

2. Angiogenesis
When pumping erect, your blood vessel will endure increases pressure. This will therefore provide increased build up of blood vessel. More blood vessel -> more blood in your penis -> bigger penis size. This is the main way how bathmate can produce gains beyond temporary engorgement. Its important to note that angiogenesis is like building muscle in bodybuilding. You need a caloric surplus, nutrients and if you dont train at all, you will lose a lot. Good thing is, after reaching your goal, you can maintain by pumping 30 minutes every week. Same way as bodybuilding, keeping muscle needs a lot less work then building it.

3. Erection Quality and sensitivity
Your erection quality will increase through Angiogensis but also, your sensitivity. Erection quality is of course a goal too, what is the benefit of measuring 7 or 8 inches when its only that size for 30 seconds or if you lose your erection when having sex.

After building enough skin through bathmate you can buy a TLC-Tugger. You will use it in 2 ways, 1. increasing the size of your foreskin by stretching it all day and 2. hang weights to stretch the ligaments.

What is possible?
In size gains, 1 inch in length is very "easy", easy means every gus can achieve it by using the bathmate and stretching the ligament a litte. 1-2 Inches is more difficult and need serious work but also very possible. Anything over 2 inches is very rare and probably more to erection quality. In Girth, 0.5 is very easy, 1 inch is still realistic. 90% of guys dont even need one inch as most guys are at least 4.6 to begin with.
The end goal should be as follows: fully flaccid coverage of glans, less than 0.5 inch difference between BPEL and NBPEL, 7 inches in NBPEL and 5-5.5inches girth (on the whole shaft/at the thinnest part).
This leaves you with a big looking penis (because nothing is hidden behind skin/fat), long enough length to reach all parts and girth to fully stretch out the vagina. And 7 inches NBPEL is very possible for any guy with at least 5 inches BPEL starting length (which is like 90% of guys). Dont get fooled by people talking about 8 inches 9 inches etc.
1. Its very unlikely that these penises were really 8 or 9 inches cause thats soo rare, most women will never encounter a real 9 incher in their whole life.
2. Erection Quality and hardness is very important so a 7 inch rock hard dick beats a 8 inch flabby dick. 3
3. Bigger is not always better, i would rather have 90% be satisfied then satisfying 10% of the size queens and leaving behind 30-40% of women to small to take it.

Hopefully this guides give you some new insights into BPEL/NBPEL, Foreskin and its benefits and finally the credits for the bathmate, which is weirdly not widely used.
 
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NoFap became super easy for me once I hopped on fin. :D(y)
 
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So you've made these gains op?
I am a weird case brother, i have shitty erection quality from PC-muscle issues and very bad circumcision. I am on week 2 bathmate and cuurrently my girth is up abot 0.2inches but its nothing permanent, just improved EQ and fluid retention. I will report back after a few weeks.
 
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lmao. ive been using fin for a year and notice 0 difference
Same, i had maybe a little less libido in the beginning but nothing major to help with nofap. 0.5mg/EOD currently
 
I am a weird case brother, i have shitty erection quality from PC-muscle issues and very bad circumcision. I am on week 2 bathmate and cuurrently my girth is up abot 0.2inches but its nothing permanent, just improved EQ and fluid retention. I will report back after a few weeks.
I'm telling you rn that the length gains you mentioned in the op are far into dreamland. If you're consistently hanging for a long time then an inch is reasonable, but 5bpel-7nbpel won't happen.
 
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Same, i had maybe a little less libido in the beginning but nothing major to help with nofap. 0.5mg/EOD currently
im using 1.25mg proscar everyday and have 0 sides. also 0 sides from daily minox use for a year. the fear mongering is crazy
 
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I'm telling you rn that the length gains you mentioned in the op are far into dreamland. If you're consistently hanging for a long time then an inch is reasonable, but 5bpel-7nbpel won't happen.
Its not easy, yes but you have to take into account that most guys have less length because of bad EQ, circumcision and bad blood flow. Many see an inch from bathmate alone. Combine it with hanging and increasing slack skin and u can make that increase easily.
 
Which Bathmate model should I buy for my 2 inch BPEL micropenis?
 
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One inch from baseline is reasonable if you combine traction therapy and surgery. Possibly just traction therapy if you're really lucky.

2 inch increase in length? that's a dream.

And you can forget girth.
 
Op is promoting a shit product he has two weeks of experience with and simply repeating the claims of financially motivated affiliate marketers. He doesn’t actually know what he’s talking about.

That being said I agree with the goals of 7-7.5x5-5.5 although I’d recommend 5.5-6 girth bc as a 7x5.5 sex haver I rarely have problems with due to too much girth. I also like that you’re bringing up foreskin restoration as it’s rarely talked about and is something I plan to work towards after I’ve made some more size gains.
 
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So i wrote a little dick maxxing guide or at least some ideas in another thread as a reply. Now i was finally able to buy a bathmate and start my dick restoration journey. This is a very important post for everybody who has been circumsized. I know face > dick but trust me, unless you are Gigachad, having a big dick is a huge halo, makes you seem more dominant and can bind girls better to you thorugh dominant cave men sex.

But whats the average penis size?
The truth is, most guys are around 5 inches NBPEL(just whats sticking outside) and 6 inches in BPEL (pushing the ruler in). This doesnt take in account that most guys are fat, out of shape, have bad blood flow and low testosterone. The average size of a active sex haver and slayer is probably one inch more in both measurements. Girth average is about 4.7 inches.

Whats the ideal penis size?
There has been one study where women could decide between several dildo sizes and they chose something around 6.5 inches in length. Mind, this is a dildo model, so its has to be compared to NPBEL. Most guys have a 0.5 inch fat pad. So ideal penis length is 7inches BPEL and 6.5 NBPEL.
For girth, we know that girth is way more important then length. Length becomes important after the threshold for girth is met. So someone who has 8 inches but lacks girth will make the girl feel absolutely nothing. Girth gives the feeling of being stretched out. The prefered size is 5 inches, but i think you can stretch it to 5.1-5.5 depending on the women. I would rather be a little to big than be to small so the goal should be at least 5, but until 5.5 is preferable if possible. Anything upwards 5.5 is just a headache and will be too big for the majority of girls.

Whats the issue with being circumsized?
Now lets get to the core of this thread. There are many dick maxing guides out there but very little that take into account what circumsizion does to the human penis.

1. It makes you desensitized and therefore a degenerate coomer
Why are arabs and middle eastern guys so perverted? Why are so many jewish people pedophiles? Why was there a brothel with a orangutan in Indonesia?
When ones orgasm isnt satisfying, its becomes less rewarding. You wont be really satisfied sexually afterwards. I remember when i had my first orgasm before my penis size grew and i had too little skin. I felt the orgasm in my whole body. But with time, i had less and less skin and the orgasms now feel just like a little nice feeling in the penis for maybe 2-3 seconds.

You can be excited by two ways. One is the dopaminergic activity of sex, porn or masturbating to fantasy. It increases sensations in the penis. The more excited you are mentally, the more you feel in your penis. When someone is circumsized and he masturbates, he will feel 80-90% less than a uncircumsized guy. So he will try to compensate that by increasing excitement. The body and brain of course gets accustomed to that and increases the exitement threshold. This forces you to become a degenerate coomer, in a vicious cycle of trying to finally have a satisfying climax and desentisize yourself even further.

Thats why foreskin restoration is a key step to succeed at NOFAP (or at least Noporn). I wont dive into all the reason why you should do NOFAP but lets be honest here with ourselfs. Do we really want to be guys jerking off everyday to some degenerate porn, frying our dopamine receptors? Would we be proud to tell some stranger about our habits? There is nothing shameful about having sex, or jerking off once a week or so to a fantasy. But watching disgusting porn and jerking off everyday is just not a habit ANYONE wants to have. And dont forget, desensitization from Porn/Masturbating will make your penis smaller by having lower erection quality and hardness.

2. It makes your penis smaller
When circumsized, a gay loses a big portion of his skin. When its done in chilldhood and the penis grows afterwards, there is even less skin. Now imagine what happens when a dick gets erect without sufficient skin supporting it? The skin around the testicles and pubic bone will get pulled onto the penis, automatically putting the base of the penis into the body. So the difference between BPEL and NBPEL is increased by a big portion.
There is a big cope in the penis enlargement community (probably my some fat asses) that BPEL and NBPEL are equally important. The argument is that at sex, you will also compress the fat on the pubic bone. The truth is, the amount of times where you can fully compress it at sex are soo little that it doesnt matter how much you can gain by compressing. Now most skinny guys have a small difference between BPEL and NBPEL, mostly 1/8 inch maybe 1/4. But many many guys are little chubby and have too little skin from circumsizion. So their difference is more like one inch (for me its even 1.5 inch). 1 Inch less penis to use in sex. One inch is a lot, its can be the difference between average and small. NOBODY in the PE community gives a shit for a weird reason.

How to makes your dick bigger and restore the foreskin
So the first step is to buy a water pump, for example the bathmate. The bathmate will help you in three very interesting ways.

1. it builds up lymphatic fluid
Using the bathmate will temporarily increases your dick size by building up lymphatic fluid. My normal girth was 4.6-4.7 inches, in the first week with the bathmate, after a session i measured around 5 to 5.1 inches. 0.4 inches in girth make a huge difference. I had sex directly afterwards to test if the size increasement is usable and it is! My gf had trouble taking it without easing in because she was used to my pre bathmate size.
Now this is a huge benefit of the fluid build up but the actually reason its so important is, that it stretches your skin. Using the bathmate will over time increase your skin tissue through mitosis and therefore be the first step for you to get your foreskin back.

2. Angiogenesis
When pumping erect, your blood vessel will endure increases pressure. This will therefore provide increased build up of blood vessel. More blood vessel -> more blood in your penis -> bigger penis size. This is the main way how bathmate can produce gains beyond temporary engorgement. Its important to note that angiogenesis is like building muscle in bodybuilding. You need a caloric surplus, nutrients and if you dont train at all, you will lose a lot. Good thing is, after reaching your goal, you can maintain by pumping 30 minutes every week. Same way as bodybuilding, keeping muscle needs a lot less work then building it.

3. Erection Quality and sensitivity
Your erection quality will increase through Angiogensis but also, your sensitivity. Erection quality is of course a goal too, what is the benefit of measuring 7 or 8 inches when its only that size for 30 seconds or if you lose your erection when having sex.

After building enough skin through bathmate you can buy a TLC-Tugger. You will use it in 2 ways, 1. increasing the size of your foreskin by stretching it all day and 2. hang weights to stretch the ligaments.

What is possible?
In size gains, 1 inch in length is very "easy", easy means every gus can achieve it by using the bathmate and stretching the ligament a litte. 1-2 Inches is more difficult and need serious work but also very possible. Anything over 2 inches is very rare and probably more to erection quality. In Girth, 0.5 is very easy, 1 inch is still realistic. 90% of guys dont even need one inch as most guys are at least 4.6 to begin with.
The end goal should be as follows: fully flaccid coverage of glans, less than 0.5 inch difference between BPEL and NBPEL, 7 inches in NBPEL and 5-5.5inches girth (on the whole shaft/at the thinnest part).
This leaves you with a big looking penis (because nothing is hidden behind skin/fat), long enough length to reach all parts and girth to fully stretch out the vagina. And 7 inches NBPEL is very possible for any guy with at least 5 inches BPEL starting length (which is like 90% of guys). Dont get fooled by people talking about 8 inches 9 inches etc.
1. Its very unlikely that these penises were really 8 or 9 inches cause thats soo rare, most women will never encounter a real 9 incher in their whole life.
2. Erection Quality and hardness is very important so a 7 inch rock hard dick beats a 8 inch flabby dick. 3
3. Bigger is not always better, i would rather have 90% be satisfied then satisfying 10% of the size queens and leaving behind 30-40% of women to small to take it.

Hopefully this guides give you some new insights into BPEL/NBPEL, Foreskin and its benefits and finally the credits for the bathmate, which is weirdly not widely used.
I agree with this, unfortunately I’ve been circumcised as a baby. I can’t do anything about that, I can’t magically regrow my foreskin or change back the clock and have my parents not go with the procedure and let me decide. However I still believe that no matter what your penis looks like or how it behaves, your looks are still the determining factor into whether or not you even get in the bed with her in the first place. No girl really cares if you’re penis is circumsized or not and personally, I’ve not had any problems with my penis while circumcised so I don’t think it affects me too much. Really this whole uncircumcised vs circumcised is just another cope for both sides. In reality, this hardly has any effect in your sex life.
 
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I started doing manual stretches a month ago. I am quite certain I've gained 0.1 inches nbpel. Also, bpel is complete cope. I'm very lean now but I have over half an inch in my fat pad still. Also, my fat pad wasn't that big when I was fat either.
 
small dick coper thread, none of that shit you listed happens at all. Total and utter cope. pce.
 
I started doing manual stretches a month ago. I am quite certain I've gained 0.1 inches nbpel. Also, bpel is complete cope. I'm very lean now but I have over half an inch in my fat pad still. Also, my fat pad wasn't that big when I was fat either.
progress pics? :unsure:

also I worked in a urology department briefly I can sum up what works and what doesnt I'll prob do a post about it for the dickmaxxers
 
Op is promoting a shit product he has two weeks of experience with and simply repeating the claims of financially motivated affiliate marketers. He doesn’t actually know what he’s talking about.

That being said I agree with the goals of 7-7.5x5-5.5 although I’d recommend 5.5-6 girth bc as a 7x5.5 sex haver I rarely have problems with due to too much girth. I also like that you’re bringing up foreskin restoration as it’s rarely talked about and is something I plan to work towards after I’ve made some more size gains.
Valid criticsm i will give u that but my ideas are based on Angiogensis, the building of blood vessels and numerous videos and pictures of bathmate progress. For the hard science, i recommend Janus Bifrons videos on utube, the guy invented the angion method which is works in the same way.

Did no girl ever claimed that u are thick? Ur girth is thicker than 96% of guys and the average statistics of girth cant be screwed.

Yeah bro, just read the experience of restorers and talk to uncut friends. On guy who got cut later in life compared it like this: uncut orgasm is a 10, cut orgasm a 3 and restorated a 8 or 9. If you were circumsized at a young age, its even worse because you have lack of skind due to growth.
 
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I started doing manual stretches a month ago. I am quite certain I've gained 0.1 inches nbpel. Also, bpel is complete cope. I'm very lean now but I have over half an inch in my fat pad still. Also, my fat pad wasn't that big when I was fat either.
If you are cut, its the lack of foreskin pulling your penis inside. The fat pad should be not more than 0.2 inches when lean (<8% bf).
I agree with this, unfortunately I’ve been circumcised as a baby. I can’t do anything about that, I can’t magically regrow my foreskin or change back the clock and have my parents not go with the procedure and let me decide. However I still believe that no matter what your penis looks like or how it behaves, your looks are still the determining factor into whether or not you even get in the bed with her in the first place. No girl really cares if you’re penis is circumsized or not and personally, I’ve not had any problems with my penis while circumcised so I don’t think it affects me too much. Really this whole uncircumcised vs circumcised is just another cope for both sides. In reality, this hardly has any effect in your sex life.
My brother, its does! Women enjoy sex more if uncut penises. There are studies to back it up. Its not very much, there are certainly way more importnat factors, but you have keep in mind that uncut penises are longer, healthier, better erection quality and gliding action.

But that wasnt even my point or argument for restoration. My argument is that you yourself will experience waaay less pleasure during sex. On top of that, your penis is buried in your body. I cant recall every argument but just read the wiki on the subreddit.
You can restore youur foreskin, its not difficult, just takes a lot of time. Just buy an bathmate, expand the skin to CI-1 or maybe 2 and then buuy an all day stretcher and stretch your foreskin everyday while wearing it under your jeans or pants. 1-2 years later you have a foreskin.
 
Valid criticsm i will give u that but my ideas are based on Angiogensis, the building of blood vessels and numerous videos and pictures of bathmate progress. For the hard science, i recommend Janus Bifrons videos on utube, the guy invented the angion method which is works in the same way.

Did no girl ever claimed that u are thick? Ur girth is thicker than 96% of guys and the average statistics of girth cant be screwed.

Yeah bro, just read the experience of restorers and talk to uncut friends. On guy who got cut later in life compared it like this: uncut orgasm is a 10, cut orgasm a 3 and restorated a 8 or 9. If you were circumsized at a young age, its even worse because you have lack of skind due to growth.
Yeah I’ve heard those numbers on circumcision too. Definitely want to restore. Just haven’t had the privacy for it and I want size first.

Yes girls have called me thick, huge, biggest they’ve had(once). But how do I know that a bit bigger isn’t better. I’m pumping rn using an electric air pump. Had sleep disorders for years and still recovering so I still rarely get night boners/morning wood. As a result my eq and sex drive are low.

Hoping the pump will help with that and if I gain like a half inch length and girth then awesome. still not sure of whether or not to buy a vac hanger. I’m low 7s bp but big fat pad despite low bf so I’m mid 6s nbp. It’s very important for me to be able to go balls deep bc pelvis on pelvis and clapping cheeks are crucial. I rarely bottom out rn but it has happened so idk. Maybe I gain an inch of length and I go from balls deep with 95% of girls to 50% of girls and sex is worse overall.

If pump works for an extra half inch both ways after a while then I’m golden id say. 7 nbpx6? That’s a thundercock without the extra length that can get in the way. Then foreskin yeah bc I have sensitivity issues
 
So i wrote a little dick maxxing guide or at least some ideas in another thread as a reply. Now i was finally able to buy a bathmate and start my dick restoration journey. This is a very important post for everybody who has been circumsized. I know face > dick but trust me, unless you are Gigachad, having a big dick is a huge halo, makes you seem more dominant and can bind girls better to you thorugh dominant cave men sex.

But whats the average penis size?
The truth is, most guys are around 5 inches NBPEL(just whats sticking outside) and 6 inches in BPEL (pushing the ruler in). This doesnt take in account that most guys are fat, out of shape, have bad blood flow and low testosterone. The average size of a active sex haver and slayer is probably one inch more in both measurements. Girth average is about 4.7 inches.

Whats the ideal penis size?
There has been one study where women could decide between several dildo sizes and they chose something around 6.5 inches in length. Mind, this is a dildo model, so its has to be compared to NPBEL. Most guys have a 0.5 inch fat pad. So ideal penis length is 7inches BPEL and 6.5 NBPEL.
For girth, we know that girth is way more important then length. Length becomes important after the threshold for girth is met. So someone who has 8 inches but lacks girth will make the girl feel absolutely nothing. Girth gives the feeling of being stretched out. The prefered size is 5 inches, but i think you can stretch it to 5.1-5.5 depending on the women. I would rather be a little to big than be to small so the goal should be at least 5, but until 5.5 is preferable if possible. Anything upwards 5.5 is just a headache and will be too big for the majority of girls.

Whats the issue with being circumsized?
Now lets get to the core of this thread. There are many dick maxing guides out there but very little that take into account what circumsizion does to the human penis.

1. It makes you desensitized and therefore a degenerate coomer
Why are arabs and middle eastern guys so perverted? Why are so many jewish people pedophiles? Why was there a brothel with a orangutan in Indonesia?
When ones orgasm isnt satisfying, its becomes less rewarding. You wont be really satisfied sexually afterwards. I remember when i had my first orgasm before my penis size grew and i had too little skin. I felt the orgasm in my whole body. But with time, i had less and less skin and the orgasms now feel just like a little nice feeling in the penis for maybe 2-3 seconds.

You can be excited by two ways. One is the dopaminergic activity of sex, porn or masturbating to fantasy. It increases sensations in the penis. The more excited you are mentally, the more you feel in your penis. When someone is circumsized and he masturbates, he will feel 80-90% less than a uncircumsized guy. So he will try to compensate that by increasing excitement. The body and brain of course gets accustomed to that and increases the exitement threshold. This forces you to become a degenerate coomer, in a vicious cycle of trying to finally have a satisfying climax and desentisize yourself even further.

Thats why foreskin restoration is a key step to succeed at NOFAP (or at least Noporn). I wont dive into all the reason why you should do NOFAP but lets be honest here with ourselfs. Do we really want to be guys jerking off everyday to some degenerate porn, frying our dopamine receptors? Would we be proud to tell some stranger about our habits? There is nothing shameful about having sex, or jerking off once a week or so to a fantasy. But watching disgusting porn and jerking off everyday is just not a habit ANYONE wants to have. And dont forget, desensitization from Porn/Masturbating will make your penis smaller by having lower erection quality and hardness.

2. It makes your penis smaller
When circumsized, a gay loses a big portion of his skin. When its done in chilldhood and the penis grows afterwards, there is even less skin. Now imagine what happens when a dick gets erect without sufficient skin supporting it? The skin around the testicles and pubic bone will get pulled onto the penis, automatically putting the base of the penis into the body. So the difference between BPEL and NBPEL is increased by a big portion.
There is a big cope in the penis enlargement community (probably my some fat asses) that BPEL and NBPEL are equally important. The argument is that at sex, you will also compress the fat on the pubic bone. The truth is, the amount of times where you can fully compress it at sex are soo little that it doesnt matter how much you can gain by compressing. Now most skinny guys have a small difference between BPEL and NBPEL, mostly 1/8 inch maybe 1/4. But many many guys are little chubby and have too little skin from circumsizion. So their difference is more like one inch (for me its even 1.5 inch). 1 Inch less penis to use in sex. One inch is a lot, its can be the difference between average and small. NOBODY in the PE community gives a shit for a weird reason.

How to makes your dick bigger and restore the foreskin
So the first step is to buy a water pump, for example the bathmate. The bathmate will help you in three very interesting ways.

1. it builds up lymphatic fluid
Using the bathmate will temporarily increases your dick size by building up lymphatic fluid. My normal girth was 4.6-4.7 inches, in the first week with the bathmate, after a session i measured around 5 to 5.1 inches. 0.4 inches in girth make a huge difference. I had sex directly afterwards to test if the size increasement is usable and it is! My gf had trouble taking it without easing in because she was used to my pre bathmate size.
Now this is a huge benefit of the fluid build up but the actually reason its so important is, that it stretches your skin. Using the bathmate will over time increase your skin tissue through mitosis and therefore be the first step for you to get your foreskin back.

2. Angiogenesis
When pumping erect, your blood vessel will endure increases pressure. This will therefore provide increased build up of blood vessel. More blood vessel -> more blood in your penis -> bigger penis size. This is the main way how bathmate can produce gains beyond temporary engorgement. Its important to note that angiogenesis is like building muscle in bodybuilding. You need a caloric surplus, nutrients and if you dont train at all, you will lose a lot. Good thing is, after reaching your goal, you can maintain by pumping 30 minutes every week. Same way as bodybuilding, keeping muscle needs a lot less work then building it.

3. Erection Quality and sensitivity
Your erection quality will increase through Angiogensis but also, your sensitivity. Erection quality is of course a goal too, what is the benefit of measuring 7 or 8 inches when its only that size for 30 seconds or if you lose your erection when having sex.

After building enough skin through bathmate you can buy a TLC-Tugger. You will use it in 2 ways, 1. increasing the size of your foreskin by stretching it all day and 2. hang weights to stretch the ligaments.

What is possible?
In size gains, 1 inch in length is very "easy", easy means every gus can achieve it by using the bathmate and stretching the ligament a litte. 1-2 Inches is more difficult and need serious work but also very possible. Anything over 2 inches is very rare and probably more to erection quality. In Girth, 0.5 is very easy, 1 inch is still realistic. 90% of guys dont even need one inch as most guys are at least 4.6 to begin with.
The end goal should be as follows: fully flaccid coverage of glans, less than 0.5 inch difference between BPEL and NBPEL, 7 inches in NBPEL and 5-5.5inches girth (on the whole shaft/at the thinnest part).
This leaves you with a big looking penis (because nothing is hidden behind skin/fat), long enough length to reach all parts and girth to fully stretch out the vagina. And 7 inches NBPEL is very possible for any guy with at least 5 inches BPEL starting length (which is like 90% of guys). Dont get fooled by people talking about 8 inches 9 inches etc.
1. Its very unlikely that these penises were really 8 or 9 inches cause thats soo rare, most women will never encounter a real 9 incher in their whole life.
2. Erection Quality and hardness is very important so a 7 inch rock hard dick beats a 8 inch flabby dick. 3
3. Bigger is not always better, i would rather have 90% be satisfied then satisfying 10% of the size queens and leaving behind 30-40% of women to small to take it.

Hopefully this guides give you some new insights into BPEL/NBPEL, Foreskin and its benefits and finally the credits for the bathmate, which is weirdly not widely used.
Agreed with nearly everything stated itt, except the ways of actually enlargening your dick

what do u reccomnd for fore skin restoration btw? (which is everything imo).

Personally i still want to reach the famed 8*6 for the mental benefits and just having a stupidly big dong, it's not ideal for sex though.

You also touched up on a good point, a 6.5 dick that erects 12-2 o clock mogs a weak 8 incher and your girl will thank you for it.

Also weak erection quality is a sign of low testosterone/dht/high stress/low nitic oxide production/damaged hypothalamus, etc. and you can easily cause dick breakage during sex.

Also the bigger your dick is the more blood needs to be pumped and hormones needed. There's also a limit to how much you can enlargen ur size due to foreskin, which is why restoring it is everything for circumcised cels like me.


All in All good thread OP 👍
 
If you are cut, its the lack of foreskin pulling your penis inside. The fat pad should be not more than 0.2 inches when lean (<8% bf).

My brother, its does! Women enjoy sex more if uncut penises. There are studies to back it up. Its not very much, there are certainly way more importnat factors, but you have keep in mind that uncut penises are longer, healthier, better erection quality and gliding action.

But that wasnt even my point or argument for restoration. My argument is that you yourself will experience waaay less pleasure during sex. On top of that, your penis is buried in your body. I cant recall every argument but just read the wiki on the subreddit.
You can restore youur foreskin, its not difficult, just takes a lot of time. Just buy an bathmate, expand the skin to CI-1 or maybe 2 and then buuy an all day stretcher and stretch your foreskin everyday while wearing it under your jeans or pants. 1-2 years later you have a foreskin.
Nice, will look into this👍
 
circumcision fucks sensitivity
Yes but I wouldn’t know what it would feel like to begin with if I was uncut. So from my perspective, my dick works perfectly fine.
 
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foreskin restoration is mostly cope bc you cant regenerate lost nerve endings so al you end up with is the same skin on teh shaft rather than the specialised skin on the foreskin, but you still get some sensitivity back bc of dekeranalization
I know
 
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Do you need to do bathmate when erect or not ? They recommend to do it flaccid on their website :unsure:
 
foreskin restoration is mostly cope bc you cant regenerate lost nerve endings so al you end up with is the same skin on teh shaft rather than the specialised skin on the foreskin, but you still get some sensitivity back bc of dekeranalization
True but a gay who experience both said that is maybe a 1 or 1.5 point difference. Even if its less than a natural foreskin, its 10 times better than being completely cut. Even restoring a little skin in the beginning will help with pleasure.
Do you need to do bathmate when erect or not ? They recommend to do it flaccid on their website :unsure:
If u do it flaccid, it mostly pulls water in the skin which is a good thing for foreskin restoratio but if you want the growth of new blood vessel through angiogensis, you need to have a full erection during the full pumping time. I struggle with that because i lose my erection partly after 5 minutes btu yeah, thats the goal.
 
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Update for the ones interested, its been 2.5 weeks since using the bathmate. My dick is roughly 0.5cm longer and a little thicker (i think 0.1cm at most but i can feel it). Erections are way harder and the skin is already noticeable more stretched. I didnt expect any length gains but they are probably because of stretching my banana curvature and more blood floow to the glans.
 
Update for the ones interested, its been 2.5 weeks since using the bathmate. My dick is roughly 0.5cm longer and a little thicker (i think 0.1cm at most but i can feel it). Erections are way harder and the skin is already noticeable more stretched. I didnt expect any length gains but they are probably because of stretching my banana curvature and more blood floow to the glans.
keep reporting pls

need hope for my 7.5x4.8/4.9 pencil
 
Why bathmate? I heard vacuum pump are as good or better + easier to use.

Will get an alibaba pump probably
 
Have you looked at Shockwave Therapy?

Also bathmate is shit I use this which was recommended by a YT'er called Baseem:

 
So i wrote a little dick maxxing guide or at least some ideas in another thread as a reply. Now i was finally able to buy a bathmate and start my dick restoration journey. This is a very important post for everybody who has been circumsized. I know face > dick but trust me, unless you are Gigachad, having a big dick is a huge halo, makes you seem more dominant and can bind girls better to you thorugh dominant cave men sex.

But whats the average penis size?
The truth is, most guys are around 5 inches NBPEL(just whats sticking outside) and 6 inches in BPEL (pushing the ruler in). This doesnt take in account that most guys are fat, out of shape, have bad blood flow and low testosterone. The average size of a active sex haver and slayer is probably one inch more in both measurements. Girth average is about 4.7 inches.

Whats the ideal penis size?
There has been one study where women could decide between several dildo sizes and they chose something around 6.5 inches in length. Mind, this is a dildo model, so its has to be compared to NPBEL. Most guys have a 0.5 inch fat pad. So ideal penis length is 7inches BPEL and 6.5 NBPEL.
For girth, we know that girth is way more important then length. Length becomes important after the threshold for girth is met. So someone who has 8 inches but lacks girth will make the girl feel absolutely nothing. Girth gives the feeling of being stretched out. The prefered size is 5 inches, but i think you can stretch it to 5.1-5.5 depending on the women. I would rather be a little to big than be to small so the goal should be at least 5, but until 5.5 is preferable if possible. Anything upwards 5.5 is just a headache and will be too big for the majority of girls.

Whats the issue with being circumsized?
Now lets get to the core of this thread. There are many dick maxing guides out there but very little that take into account what circumsizion does to the human penis.

1. It makes you desensitized and therefore a degenerate coomer
Why are arabs and middle eastern guys so perverted? Why are so many jewish people pedophiles? Why was there a brothel with a orangutan in Indonesia?
When ones orgasm isnt satisfying, its becomes less rewarding. You wont be really satisfied sexually afterwards. I remember when i had my first orgasm before my penis size grew and i had too little skin. I felt the orgasm in my whole body. But with time, i had less and less skin and the orgasms now feel just like a little nice feeling in the penis for maybe 2-3 seconds.

You can be excited by two ways. One is the dopaminergic activity of sex, porn or masturbating to fantasy. It increases sensations in the penis. The more excited you are mentally, the more you feel in your penis. When someone is circumsized and he masturbates, he will feel 80-90% less than a uncircumsized guy. So he will try to compensate that by increasing excitement. The body and brain of course gets accustomed to that and increases the exitement threshold. This forces you to become a degenerate coomer, in a vicious cycle of trying to finally have a satisfying climax and desentisize yourself even further.

Thats why foreskin restoration is a key step to succeed at NOFAP (or at least Noporn). I wont dive into all the reason why you should do NOFAP but lets be honest here with ourselfs. Do we really want to be guys jerking off everyday to some degenerate porn, frying our dopamine receptors? Would we be proud to tell some stranger about our habits? There is nothing shameful about having sex, or jerking off once a week or so to a fantasy. But watching disgusting porn and jerking off everyday is just not a habit ANYONE wants to have. And dont forget, desensitization from Porn/Masturbating will make your penis smaller by having lower erection quality and hardness.

2. It makes your penis smaller
When circumsized, a gay loses a big portion of his skin. When its done in chilldhood and the penis grows afterwards, there is even less skin. Now imagine what happens when a dick gets erect without sufficient skin supporting it? The skin around the testicles and pubic bone will get pulled onto the penis, automatically putting the base of the penis into the body. So the difference between BPEL and NBPEL is increased by a big portion.
There is a big cope in the penis enlargement community (probably my some fat asses) that BPEL and NBPEL are equally important. The argument is that at sex, you will also compress the fat on the pubic bone. The truth is, the amount of times where you can fully compress it at sex are soo little that it doesnt matter how much you can gain by compressing. Now most skinny guys have a small difference between BPEL and NBPEL, mostly 1/8 inch maybe 1/4. But many many guys are little chubby and have too little skin from circumsizion. So their difference is more like one inch (for me its even 1.5 inch). 1 Inch less penis to use in sex. One inch is a lot, its can be the difference between average and small. NOBODY in the PE community gives a shit for a weird reason.

How to makes your dick bigger and restore the foreskin
So the first step is to buy a water pump, for example the bathmate. The bathmate will help you in three very interesting ways.

1. it builds up lymphatic fluid
Using the bathmate will temporarily increases your dick size by building up lymphatic fluid. My normal girth was 4.6-4.7 inches, in the first week with the bathmate, after a session i measured around 5 to 5.1 inches. 0.4 inches in girth make a huge difference. I had sex directly afterwards to test if the size increasement is usable and it is! My gf had trouble taking it without easing in because she was used to my pre bathmate size.
Now this is a huge benefit of the fluid build up but the actually reason its so important is, that it stretches your skin. Using the bathmate will over time increase your skin tissue through mitosis and therefore be the first step for you to get your foreskin back.

2. Angiogenesis
When pumping erect, your blood vessel will endure increases pressure. This will therefore provide increased build up of blood vessel. More blood vessel -> more blood in your penis -> bigger penis size. This is the main way how bathmate can produce gains beyond temporary engorgement. Its important to note that angiogenesis is like building muscle in bodybuilding. You need a caloric surplus, nutrients and if you dont train at all, you will lose a lot. Good thing is, after reaching your goal, you can maintain by pumping 30 minutes every week. Same way as bodybuilding, keeping muscle needs a lot less work then building it.

3. Erection Quality and sensitivity
Your erection quality will increase through Angiogensis but also, your sensitivity. Erection quality is of course a goal too, what is the benefit of measuring 7 or 8 inches when its only that size for 30 seconds or if you lose your erection when having sex.

After building enough skin through bathmate you can buy a TLC-Tugger. You will use it in 2 ways, 1. increasing the size of your foreskin by stretching it all day and 2. hang weights to stretch the ligaments.

What is possible?
In size gains, 1 inch in length is very "easy", easy means every gus can achieve it by using the bathmate and stretching the ligament a litte. 1-2 Inches is more difficult and need serious work but also very possible. Anything over 2 inches is very rare and probably more to erection quality. In Girth, 0.5 is very easy, 1 inch is still realistic. 90% of guys dont even need one inch as most guys are at least 4.6 to begin with.
The end goal should be as follows: fully flaccid coverage of glans, less than 0.5 inch difference between BPEL and NBPEL, 7 inches in NBPEL and 5-5.5inches girth (on the whole shaft/at the thinnest part).
This leaves you with a big looking penis (because nothing is hidden behind skin/fat), long enough length to reach all parts and girth to fully stretch out the vagina. And 7 inches NBPEL is very possible for any guy with at least 5 inches BPEL starting length (which is like 90% of guys). Dont get fooled by people talking about 8 inches 9 inches etc.
1. Its very unlikely that these penises were really 8 or 9 inches cause thats soo rare, most women will never encounter a real 9 incher in their whole life.
2. Erection Quality and hardness is very important so a 7 inch rock hard dick beats a 8 inch flabby dick. 3
3. Bigger is not always better, i would rather have 90% be satisfied then satisfying 10% of the size queens and leaving behind 30-40% of women to small to take it.

Hopefully this guides give you some new insights into BPEL/NBPEL, Foreskin and its benefits and finally the credits for the bathmate, which is weirdly not widely used.
I was 3.something inches FULL ERECT till 18 , I don't know if it was because i was a late bloomer or low testosterone ..i looked very young fo my age , my voice was feminine ..i started Gymmaxxing ...and my peak dick size was when i was taking zinc and vitamin d3 pills ...6.5 inches ...these days it's 6 inches and when i masturbate too much it gets thin so it needs some rest time to get back to its normal size again ..I'll be hoping on tren cause from multiple experiences by experienced bodybuilders it has given them a bigger penis size ..i want to get a bigger penis size just for myself ...there is no ideal penis size as long as you're above 4 inches ..Enrique Iglesias has a size of 5.5 inches ..
 

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