Differences in outcomes between looks levels are due to differences in personality and IQ

[Crusile]

1. Differences in outcomes are due to differences personality and IQ . , not looks. Even if looks cause personality differences during adolescence

2. Looksmaxxing "improves" your looks while worsening your personality by causing symptoms of a mental disorder (looksmaxxing is the mental disorder)

3. according to the experts, hard looksmaxxing can only improve your looks by "0.5-1.25 psl points"

Physically, more attractive workers may earn more, not necessarily because they are more beautiful, but because they are healthier, more intelligent, and have better (more Conscientious, more Extraverted, and less Neurotic) personality conducive to higher earnings.

 

[Deleted member 29167]

WHAT

 

[Crusile]

Looksmaxxing is a waste of resources, destroys your natural beauty, worsens your mental state (iq and personality), harms you via the inverse hailo effect

#looksmax theory fail

 

[Crusile]

WHAT

yea looks itself dont matter, the halo effect doesnt exist irl. If the benefits of looks are due to how looks form personality, looksmaxxing is counterproductive. The looksmaxxing component of lookstheory is fake/disproven

 

[Crusile]

@Reconstitution thoughts

 

[Kater Maxxing]

Looksmaxxing is a waste of resources, destroys your natural beauty, worsens your mental state (iq and personality), harms you via the inverse hailo effect

#looksmax theory fail

Cope nigger

 

[Deleted member 15468]

yea looks itself dont matter, the halo effect doesnt exist irl. If the benefits of looks are due to how looks form personality, looksmaxxing is counterproductive. The looksmaxxing component of lookstheory is fake/disproven

the halo effect most definitely exists coping subhuman

 

[Deleted member 15468]

bro thought he had some smart insights

this is water, what else would the reason be jfl

 

[Crusile]

Looksmaxxing destorys your natural beauty. lol, if the goal is to get a girlfriend/wife, wont they be weirded out and repulsed by your plastic surgery? have fun living a life of lies

Natural beauty is more beautiful that unnatural beauty, looksmaxxing lowers your beauty

 

[Deleted member 29581]

1. Differences in outcomes are due to differences personality and IQ . , not looks. Even if looks cause personality differences during adolescence

2. Looksmaxxing "improves" your looks while worsening your personality by causing symptoms of a mental disorder (looksmaxxing is the mental disorder)

3. according to the experts, hard looksmaxxing can only improve your looks by "0.5-1.25 psl points"

from subhuman to…

 

[Crusile]

bro thought he had some smart insights

this is water, what else would the reason be jfl

yea its known, its why no one other than this subforum believes in looksmaxxing. and It disproves looksmaxxing completely.

 

[chadcel;]

biggest cope, Ive become more GL and smarter last few years

 

[Broski]

0.5-1.25psl is astronomical, totally worth it, takes you from normie approaching htn-chadlite range

 

[Deleted member 26699]

Looksmaxxing destorys your natural beauty. lol, if the goal is to get a girlfriend/wife, wont they be weirded out and repulsed by your plastic surgery? have fun living a life of lies

Natural beauty is more beautiful that unnatural beauty, looksmaxxing lowers your beauty

Not true jfl even male models get Surgies and put in makeup they look better after then they did b4 ppl here pull the 1 out of a million examples of surgery gone wrong but that is statistically insignificant the whole point of surgery is too look like u haven’t had surgery

 

[Deleted member 26699]

0.5-1.25psl is astronomical, totally worth it, takes you from normie approaching htn-chadlite range

What does he mean by looksmaxxing? Hard maxxing like surgery? Or soft maxxing

 

[Crusile]

0.5-1.25psl is astronomical, totally worth it, takes you from normie approaching htn-chadlite range

but personality is more important than looks and looksmaxxing worsens your mental state/personality

 

[Crusile]

What does he mean by looksmaxxing? Hard maxxing like surgery? Or soft maxxing

Soft maxxing doesnt count as looksmaxxing

 

[Crusile]

Not true jfl even male models get Surgies and put in makeup they look better after then they did b4 ppl here pull the 1 out of a million examples of surgery gone wrong but that is statistically insignificant the whole point of surgery is too look like u haven’t had surgery

Modeling is the only example where looks are more important than mental state

 

[Deleted member 26699]

Soft maxxing doesnt count as looksmaxxing

Body fat is law tho, also I definitely wouldn’t mind increasing my looks by 1psl point I’ll be chadlite

 

[Crusile]

the halo effect most definitely exists coping subhuman

When/where does the halo effect exist?

 

[Deleted member 26699]

Modeling is the only example where looks are more important than mental state

Mental state is cope women like guys who don’t care bout them I know depressed guys who pull more than we they aren’t depressed, simping gets her pussy drk

 

[malicieusss]

Idc, some ppl are in a very simple dilemma in this life: surgery or death.

 

[Deleted member 29786]

Soft maxxing doesnt count as looksmaxxing

why not?

 

[Crusile]

Body fat is law tho, also I definitely wouldn’t mind increasing my looks by 1psl point I’ll be chadlite

never mind, softmaxxing could be looksmaxxing, but hardmaxxing is part of looksmaxxing theory, so hardmaxxing being harmful debunks looksmaxxing. Softmaxxing could still lower your mental state so im not 100% sure if its worth doing

 

[Crusile]

why not?

never mind, softmaxxing could be looksmaxxing, but hardmaxxing is part of looksmaxxing theory, so hardmaxxing being harmful debunks looksmaxxing. Softmaxxing could still lower your mental state so im not 100% sure if its worth doing

 

[Deleted member 26699]

never mind, softmaxxing could be looksmaxxing, but hardmaxxing is part of looksmaxxing theory, so hardmaxxing being harmful debunks looksmaxxing. Softmaxxing could still lower your mental state so im not 100% sure if its worth doing

Nothing lowers ur mental state more then getting treated like shot bc of ur sub humanness even chads can have mental problems us men only feel truly happy when working on our purpose that’s why mgtow is the best way just grind and have fun w chicks in the side

 

[Deleted member 29786]

Softmaxxing could still lower your mental state so im not 100% sure if its worth doing

how it would make your mental state worse?

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

Looksmaxxing is a waste of resources, destroys your natural beauty, worsens your mental state (iq and personality), harms you via the inverse hailo effect

#looksmax theory fail

im going to walk into the mirror and stare at myself and then get emotionally traumatized by the ugly ghoul crying back at me

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

Not true jfl even male models get Surgies and put in makeup they look better after then they did b4 ppl here pull the 1 out of a million examples of surgery gone wrong but that is statistically insignificant the whole point of surgery is too look like u haven’t had surgery

male models are already better looking than the masses and even then i think they are more likely to get surgery as its related to their job performance (beauty).
the beautiful become more beautiful while defeatist ugly losers practice mental acrobatics to justify NOT doing what their beautiful counterparts have already done.

 

[Deleted member 29796]

@Reconstitution thoughts

Yeah, of course, imo. Especially the brutal third point, but good luck getting that over to people on here. I can't really fault anyone here, since joining this site, I think I initially sought minor tips for improvement but being here has honestly made me sadder, for the average human. It's absurd to see what assumed standards have done to people. And as screwed as it sounds, I don't see that coming to halt anytime soon. I subscribe to Singer's expanding circle:

We are so far removed from reasonable considerations for just humans, imo, let alone all sentient life. At this point I have dedicated a portion of my life to properly pursuing philosophy and presenting digestible ideas in hopes to leave this planet slightly better than what I'm experiencing now. I have been politically active since 15, I intend to get better at promoting activism, I hope to see America in much better shape by the time I pass on, I have to be optimistic about this.

The personality thing, yeah, I have tried expressing that when I can, that is true, and it should be pursued, people would GREATLY benefit from scientifically proven approaches to therapy, countries would greatly benefit from funding this socially for their citizens, that obviously won't happen for a while. This thread deserves a much longer response, but I'm sure you see what I'm getting at. I think people like yourself are better served getting before as many eyes as possible. Whether that is through social media usage, books, or anything that provides a scattershot approach, I see it as a moral obligation for people such as yourself. Pertaining to this forum, I will see how small little drops work, ironically, it would seem people here would be easier to convince than the average person, it's probably best that the average person knows nothing about stuff, and we hope for better humans through improvements to education, access to education, and overhauling to our (America) education system is definitely needed, of course I'm fighting corporate interests there, all of this is such a mess. I try my best to be as social as possible on platform like this to get an idea of how different types of people respond to different approaches.

Keeping this short. You get the point, and I definitely agree with what you are getting at. I can only word myself so much on this, I need to improve greatly, I see that as a moral obligation. I do try to help, as responsibly as I can, within reason, I also need help myself, so there is that.
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I'm thinking of major platforms that are pushing against what you are preaching, like yesterday I was thinking of Qoves studio, on youtube, and I honestly started raging, thinking of the damage that channel is doing, all in self-interest, profit, at the end of the day. There are so many irresponsible actors, and they are always the loudest and most influencing. I really do wish this was all fake, somehow, but it's "clearly" not, we just have a lot of work to do. The bad is so much easier to dispense than the good.

 

[Interested]

according to the experts, hard looksmaxxing can only improve your looks by "0.5-1.25 psl points"

This is simply wrong. You can definitely improve your appearance drastically, and I'm proof of that (although "psl" is a made-up nonsense that doesn't accurately measure appearance based on subjective preferences).

However, I agree that it can lead to mental deterioration, but that depends on the mental state of the individual.

 

[Crusile]

Yeah, of course, imo. Especially the brutal third point, but good luck getting that over to people on here. I can't really fault anyone here, since joining this site, I think I initially sought minor tips for improvement but being here has honestly made me sadder, for the average human. It's absurd to see what assumed standards have done to people. And as screwed as it sounds, I don't see that coming to halt anytime soon. I subscribe to Singer's expanding circle:

We are so far removed from reasonable considerations for just humans, imo, let alone all sentient life. At this point I have dedicated a portion of my life to properly pursuing philosophy and presenting digestible ideas in hopes to leave this planet slightly better than what I'm experiencing now. I have been politically active since 15, I intend to get better at promoting activism, I hope to see America in much better shape by the time I pass on, I have to be optimistic about this.

The personality thing, yeah, I have tried expressing that when I can, that is true, and it should be pursued, people would GREATLY benefit from scientifically proven approaches to therapy, countries would greatly benefit from funding this socially for their citizens, that obviously won't happen for a while. This thread deserves a much longer response, but I'm sure you see what I'm getting at. I think people like yourself are better served getting before as many eyes as possible. Whether that is through social media usage, books, or anything that provides a scattershot approach, I see it as a moral obligation for people such as yourself. Pertaining to this forum, I will see how small little drops work, ironically, it would seem people here would be easier to convince than the average person, it's probably best that the average person knows nothing about stuff, and we hope for better humans through improvements to education, access to education, and overhauling to our (America) education system is definitely needed, of course I'm fighting corporate interests there, all of this is such a mess. I try my best to be as social as possible on platform like this to get an idea of how different types of people respond to different approaches.

Keeping this short. You get the point, and I definitely agree with what you are getting at. I can only word myself so much on this, I need to improve greatly, I see that as a moral obligation. I do try to help, as responsibly as I can, within reason, I also need help myself, so there is that.
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I'm thinking of major platforms that are pushing against what you are preaching, like yesterday I was thinking of Qoves studio, on youtube, and I honestly started raging, thinking of the damage that channel is doing, all in self-interest, profit, at the end of the day. There are so many irresponsible actors, and they are always the loudest and most influencing. I really do wish this was all fake, somehow, but it's "clearly" not, we just have a lot of work to do. The bad is so much easier to dispense than the good.

ive been at it for a few months now tbh im having trouble coming up with looks theory debunks. I dont know where to go from here. Unfortunately there seems to be 0 academic works by real IRL intellectuals on looks theory

-Looks theory as in the halo effect is real

-looksmaxxing works, but only after prior brainwashing that connects your looks to your mental state.

-looksmaxxing doesnt work because it harms your state of mind, there are no examples for successful looksmaxxers on looksmax.org (successful in both mental state and looks)

-Inverse halo effect needs to be investigated:

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https://looksmax.org/threads/irl-the-amount-of-time-i-get-ghosted.694946/ inversed halo effect (especially in cases of recently added looks through looksmaxxing) in action, perfect looks just confirm his mental illness to people

-Being good looking can harm other peoples mental state, looksmaxxixng is a selfish endeavor https://looksmax.org/threads/im-going-to-commit-suicide-tonight.733476/

-Looks theory is harmful, spreads socially contagious mental disorder. causes suicides (causes physical violence/murder)

-negative mental effects of sleep apnea can not be attributed to looks, even if malocclusion is the cause of both poor looks and sleep apnea

-does malocclusion, itself, cause psychological discomfort? If your jaw is deformed/in the "wrong place" and your palate is too narrow for your tongue, wouldnt that me mentally distressing? and does orthodontic surgery alleviate this (I wouldnt think so).
If so, again, this cant be attribute to looks/halo effect and weakens the power of looksmaxxing

-lookism is wrong and you should strive to be a non-lookist (need to explain/prove why its wrong)

 

[Crusile]

Spreading the looks theory ideology on youtube is pure evil idk how they sleep at night knowing up much mental distress theyre causing/inventing for 0

 

[Deleted member 24781]

1. Differences in outcomes are due to differences personality and IQ . , not looks. Even if looks cause personality differences during adolescence

2. Looksmaxxing "improves" your looks while worsening your personality by causing symptoms of a mental disorder (looksmaxxing is the mental disorder)

3. according to the experts, hard looksmaxxing can only improve your looks by "0.5-1.25 psl points"

The height and facial symmetry correlation is weak but still significant. So, you are wrong.

If looksmaxing is a mental disorder. Then all women are mentally ill because they've been looksmaxing since they were young.

Women are dating and hooking up with thugs and mentally ill anti social scum because women find them sexually attractive.

 

[Deleted member 24781]

Looksmaxxing is a waste of resources, destroys your natural beauty, worsens your mental state (iq and personality), harms you via the inverse hailo effect

#looksmax theory fail

Not at all. If a person has facial deformities which effects their health and dating lives. Fixing them is not pathological.

 

[Crusile]

The height and facial symmetry correlation is weak but still significant. So, you are wrong.

If looksmaxing is a mental disorder. Then all women are mentally ill because they've been looksmaxing since they were young.

Women are dating and hooking up with thugs and mentally ill anti social scum because women find them sexually attractive.

Facial asymmetry may be caused by mental distress, not the other way around. this is another important theory.

Women dont believe in looks theory, though. If looksmaxxing causes mental distress (it does for looksmaxxers on looksmax.org), then its a mental disorder

 

[Deleted member 24781]

When/where does the halo effect exist?

The halo effect has been documented as fact in many different cultures in the field of evolutionary psychology. You need to read up on the latest research because you are making an arse of yourself.

 

[Crusile]

Not at all. If a person has facial deformities which effects their health and dating lives. Fixing them is not pathological.

A person believing that they have facial deformities is the problem. theres nothing "wrong" with ugly facial features, its made up in your mind

 

[AppealMaxxing]

Looksmaxxing has improved my mental state, because it's a goal to focus on with a pretty clear trajectory for me.
It just shouldn't be your only goal.
Besides, if natural beauty exist shouldn't natural uglyness exist aswell? Cant have the one without the other.

 

[Crusile]

The halo effect has been documented as fact in many different cultures in the field of evolutionary psychology. You need to read up on the latest research because you are making an arse of yourself.

https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/20...ssing-the-lack-of-novel-testable-predictions/ Evolutionary psychology cant "explain" anything

I just wrote that the "halo effect is real". its not end all be all, personality overpowers the halo effect irl, and the inverse halo effect reduces the halo effect by an undefined amount irl

 

[Crusile]

Besides, if natural beauty exist shouldn't natural uglyness exist aswell? Cant have the one without the other.

Neither exist if beauty is subjective (it is)

 

[Deleted member 24781]

Facial asymmetry may be caused by mental distress, not the other way around. this is another important theory.

Women dont believe in looks theory, though. If looksmaxxing causes mental distress (it does for looksmaxxers on looksmax.org), then its a mental disorder

Based on what evidence?

Mental distress is normally the result of adversity. Meaning, unattractive people are psychologically being destroyed by others in their environment. Depression and anxiety are conditions that are mostly not genetically inherited. They are environmental. So, when a person has facial deformities. People will exclude them and try and assert dominance over them because they see them as inferior. This results in the ugly person getting mentally ill.

 

[Deleted member 24781]

https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/20...ssing-the-lack-of-novel-testable-predictions/ Evolutionary psychology cant "explain anything"

I just wrote that the "halo effect is real". its not end all be all, personality overpowers the halo effect irl, and the inverse halo effect reduces the halo effect by an undefined amount irl

Yes it can. The study I mentioned has predictive power and is not pseudoscience. You can't dismiss an entire field. That highlights how ignorant you are.

Women are dating murders and every kind of anti social scum under the sun. These men have terrible personalities. But they have an abundance of pussy thrown at them. It's down to women being sexually attracted to them.

 

[Crusile]

Based on what evidence?

Mental distress is normally the result of adversity. Meaning, unattractive people are psychologically being destroyed by others in their environment. Depression and anxiety are conditions that are mostly not genetically inherited. They are environment. So, when a person has facial deformities. People will exclude them and try and assert dominance over them because they see them as inferior. This results in the ugly person getting mentally ill.

How do you know that facial asymmetry isnt caused by mental distress? Both could be true, its just important to think about.

 

[Crusile]

Yes it can. The study I mentioned has predictive power and is not pseudoscience. You can't dismiss an entire field. That highlights how ignorant you are.

Women are dating murders and every kind of anti social under the sun. These men have terrible personalities. But they have an abundance of pussy thrown at them. It's down to women being sexually attracted to them.

what study? how is a height facial symmetry correlation "evolutionary psych"?

"criminals" have good personalities + are the most extroverted people lol you are deluded

 

[Deleted member 24781]

How do you know that facial asymmetry isnt caused by mental distress? Both could be true, its just important to think about.

Facial asymmetry is down to a weak immune system during childhood. So, the child's body was using bio energetic resources to fight off infections etc. And wasn't able to better use said energy to build a more symmetral face.

 

[Crusile]

Facial asymmetry is down to a weak immune system during childhood. So, the child's body was using bio energetic resources to fight off infections etc. And wasn't able to better use said energy to build a more symmetral face.

k, what is the provable mechanism for that? (doesnt exist)

 

[Deleted member 24781]

what study? how is a height facial symmetry correlation "evolutionary psych"?

"criminals" have good personalities + are the most extroverted people lol you are deluded

Good looking = good genes. Tall height, symmetral face, wide shoulder to hip ratio etc. Tall height has a .20 correlation. And the correlation between facial symmetry and Intelligence is between .12 and .20. So, the correlation between being good looking and intelligence is .30 to .40. It's a moderate correlation which is still significant.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/222819912_Smarter_people_are_a_bit_more_symmetrical_A_meta-analysis_of_the_relationship_between_intelligence_and_fluctuating_asymmetry

Common Genetic Variants Explain the Majority of the Correlation Between Height and Intelligence: The Generation Scotland Study - Behavior Genetics

Greater height and higher intelligence test scores are predictors of better health outcomes. Here, we used molecular (single-nucleotide polymorphism) data to estimate the genetic correlation between height and general intelligence (g) in 6,815 unrelated subjects (median age 57, IQR 49–63) from...

link.springer.com

Criminals do not have good personalities you retard. They commit anti social crimes such as, rape, murder, child neglect, and are chronically unemployed.

 

[Deleted member 24781]

k, what is the provable mechanism for that? (doesnt exist)

Prove your view point. Which you can't. I'm following evolutionary theory and it's predictive power so far has destroyed every opposition. You need to take heed.

 

[incel194012940]

ive been at it for a few months now tbh im having trouble coming up with looks theory debunks. I dont know where to go from here. Unfortunately there seems to be 0 academic works by real IRL intellectuals on looks theory

-Looks theory as in the halo effect is real

-looksmaxxing works, but only after prior brainwashing that connects your looks to your mental state.

-looksmaxxing doesnt work because it harms your state of mind, there are no examples for successful looksmaxxers on looksmax.org (successful in both mental state and looks)

looksmaxxing works for me because I was already highly mentally distressed from unknown reasons that became looks based and therefore able to be worked on after reading looks theory.