First Day Carnivore

[PrimalPlasty]

One meal a day 0 Carb, the coconut oil is not exactly 100% carnivore but whatever

 

[PrimalPlasty]

@veggiedietcell @Never Get Up

 

[yuuwaku]

use beef tallow

 

[PrimalPlasty]

use beef tallow

have to order

 

[FiendFiend]

One meal a day 0 Carb, the coconut oil is not exactly 100% carnivore but whatever

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give it 2 days max and u quit

 

[PrimalPlasty]

give it 2 days max and u quit

i hope i wont fail

 

[veggiedietcell]

One meal a day 0 Carb, the coconut oil is not exactly 100% carnivore but whatever

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Proud of u, good job, now stick to it

 

[veggiedietcell]

@WellDevelopedIndian

 

[veggiedietcell]

One meal a day 0 Carb, the coconut oil is not exactly 100% carnivore but whatever

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Use raw butter, coconut oil is good too but it’s omega 3 to omega 6 ratio is poor

 

[PrimalPlasty]

Use raw butter, coconut oil is good too but it’s omega 3 to omega 6 ratio is poor

can only get pasteurized butter if thats what you mean, coconut oil will help me with carb cravings i think cuz it got a fruitiness to it

 

[veggiedietcell]

can only get pasteurized butter if thats what you mean, coconut oil will help me with carb cravings i think cuz it got a fruitiness to it

pasteurised butter is decent, get it grass fed though, but raw butter is a superfood

 

[PrimalPlasty]

pasteurised butter is decent, get it grass fed though, but raw butter is a superfood

yeah, also do you think this is enough for one meal a day? or should i add some eggs in tomorrow

 

[veggiedietcell]

yeah, also do you think this is enough for one meal a day? or should i add some eggs in tomorrow

1 meal a day? Why?

 

[PrimalPlasty]

1 meal a day? Why?

cause thats what @Never Get Up recommends (right?) basically to avoid spiking insulin all day

 

[PrimalPlasty]

i want to lose weight also

 

[veggiedietcell]

cause thats what @Never Get Up recommends (right?) basically to avoid spiking insulin all day

I mean u are young and spiking ur igf-1 could trigger a potential growth spurt, also don’t overthink tbh, eating a carnivore is already gonna make u not age and million times healthier, if ur hunger is satiated then that is fine, or else eat more, and yeah include eggs

 

[PrimalPlasty]

You aren’t getting insulin “spike” from protein and fat. Sure it may increase slightly but for sure no spike. If you want to do OMAD you have to be stacking your plate up more then your have.

protein spikes insulin and also cause your body makes glucose out of it via gluconeogenesis, i thought?

 

[PrimalPlasty]

I mean u are young and spiking ur igf-1 could trigger a potential growth spurt, also don’t overthink tbh, eating a carnivore is already gonna make u not age and million times healthier, if ur hunger is satiated then that is fine, or else eat more, and yeah include eggs

good advice, thx

 

[PrimalPlasty]

protein increases insulin, but it’s defo not spiking it like carbs. It’s too small of an increase to be considered spiking insulin.

oh i agree i was wording it poorly, its more like a slight bump, and thats all you need actually

 

[veggiedietcell]

protein spikes insulin and also cause your body makes glucose out of it via gluconeogenesis, i thought?

Same that is what I thought, but people do say that igf 1 spike is good for puberty

 

[PrimalPlasty]

Same that is what I thought, but people do say that igf 1 spike is good for puberty

in my experience it was always better not to listen to what most people say, maybe the same goes for this aswell, who knows?

 

[goyimslayer]

One meal a day 0 Carb, the coconut oil is not exactly 100% carnivore but whatever

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@asdvek

 

[veggiedietcell]

in my experience it was always better not to listen to what most people say, maybe the same goes for this aswell, who knows?

Yeah u are right, but that is a good fact tbh, yes high insulin spike might cause aging but u know growth is similar to aging according to goatis and u need to grow for now, so yeah spiking insulin is not a big of a problem imo, but spiking insulin via meat is better

 

[PrimalPlasty]

Yeah u are right, but that is a good fact tbh, yes high insulin spike might cause aging but u know growth is similar to aging according to goatis and u need to grow for now, so yeah spiking insulin is not a big of a problem imo, but spiking insulin via meat is better

i think its only important if youre like below 18 or so

 

[veggiedietcell]

in my experience it was always better not to listen to what most people say, maybe the same goes for this aswell, who knows?

Also never get up might say that carbs are poisons which could be true but raw milk during childhood is golden

 

[PrimalPlasty]

Also never get up might say that carbs are poisons which could be true but raw milk during childhood is golden

agreed

 

[fezzz]

One meal a day 0 Carb, the coconut oil is not exactly 100% carnivore but whatever

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Coconut oil has an omega 6 to 3 ratio of 88:1. Thats a seed oil.

 

[PrimalPlasty]

Coconut oil has an omega 6 to 3 ratio of 88:1. Thats a seed oil.

brother who cares, if you actually look it up you would know that it has very little pufa, omega 6 and 3, the ratio doesent even matter since 1 tablespoon has like 0.2g of pufa, 0.05g of omega 3/6 etc.

 

[fezzz]

brother who cares, if you actually look it up you would know that it has very little pufa, omega 6 and 3, the ratio doesent even matter since 1 tablespoon has like 0.2g of pufa, 0.05g of omega 3/6 etc.

Only use it to oil pull. Butter or beeftallow is better. All im saying

 

[PrimalPlasty]

Only use it to oil pull. Butter or beeftallow is better. All im saying

ofcourse but thats not what i got at my house atm, im going to shop properly i promise

 

[Jiaxi]

you might want to cook that so you don’t get sick

 

[PrimalPlasty]

you might want to cook that so you don’t get sick

its cooked wdym

 

[PrimalPlasty]

Only use it to oil pull. Butter or beeftallow is better. All im saying

oh i get what confuses people now, i didnt cook the meat in coconut oil, but in butter, but i also added a tablespoon of coconut oil on the side

 

[edgemaxxed]

One meal a day 0 Carb, the coconut oil is not exactly 100% carnivore but whatever

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genuine advice
dont do this

 

[PrimalPlasty]

genuine advice
dont do this

why?

 

[edgemaxxed]

why?

no carbs= high cortisol = low test
also hard to digest
will give you piles most probably
bad gut health= bad overall health

 

[PrimalPlasty]

no carbs= high cortisol = low test
also hard to digest
will give you piles most probably
bad gut health= bad overall health

Why would no carbs cause high cortisol, what is the mechanism behind that?
why is meat hard to digest, even more so when its bacially raw in the middle, its the most digestible food there is thus improving gut health

@Never Get Up thoughts?

 

[fezzz]

oh i get what confuses people now, i didnt cook the meat in coconut oil, but in butter, but i also added a tablespoon of coconut oil on the side

I would recommend swishing it in your mouth for like 10-15 min after the meal then brushing your teeth. Made my teeth whiter. With flouride free toothpaste ofc

 

[PrimalPlasty]

I would recommend swishing it in your mouth for like 10-15 min after the meal then brushing your teeth. Made my teeth whiter. With flouride free toothpaste ofc

i do oil pulling anyways, good recommendation nonetheless

 

[edgemaxxed]

Why would no carbs cause high cortisol, what is the mechanism behind that?
why is meat hard to digest, even more so when its bacially raw in the middle, its the most digestible food there is thus improving gut health

@Never Get Up thoughts?

The mechanism behind cortisol elevation during low-carb or no-carb eating revolves around the body's need to maintain stable blood glucose levels. When carbohydrates are restricted, cortisol is released to promote gluconeogenesis, release stored glucose, and prevent hypoglycemia. In the short term, this is a protective mechanism, but over time, chronic cortisol elevation can have negative impacts on health.

 

[PrimalPlasty]

The mechanism behind cortisol elevation during low-carb or no-carb eating revolves around the body's need to maintain stable blood glucose levels. When carbohydrates are restricted, cortisol is released to promote gluconeogenesis, release stored glucose, and prevent hypoglycemia. In the short term, this is a protective mechanism, but over time, chronic cortisol elevation can have negative impacts on health.

Doesen't your body make sufficient ammounts of glucose for your tissue and cells via gluconeogenesis? also may i ask if youre coming from the ray peat sphere?

 

[fezzz]

Why would no carbs cause high cortisol, what is the mechanism behind that?
why is meat hard to digest, even more so when its bacially raw in the middle, its the most digestible food there is thus improving gut health

@Never Get Up thoughts?

Only short term. I been low carb for a while and im good.

 

[edgemaxxed]

Doesen't your body make sufficient ammounts of glucose for your tissue and cells via gluconeogenesis? also may i ask if youre coming from the ray peat sphere?

it can also lead to muscle breakdown if the body relies on it too much

 

[veggiedietcell]

Doesen't your body make sufficient ammounts of glucose for your tissue and cells via gluconeogenesis? also may i ask if youre coming from the ray peat sphere?

what is the quality of your cheese?

 

[PrimalPlasty]

what is the quality of your cheese?

its from dairy cows, pretty sure they are grass fed as well, pasteurized tho thats the only bad thing

 

[veggiedietcell]

its from dairy cows, pretty sure they are grass fed as well, pasteurized tho thats the only bad thing

Ohh, I get my cheeses from my neighbourhood farm, raw cheese, goat cheese, feta cheese, lots of cheeses!!
Man raw cheese are so fucking tasty, and we get it from the manufacturer before it reaches the shops

 

[PrimalPlasty]

Ohh, I get my cheeses from my neighbourhood farm, raw cheese, goat cheese, feta cheese, lots of cheeses!!
Man raw cheese are saw fucking tasty, and we get it from the manufacturer before it reaches the shops

that sounds great man, i once made some cheese myself, its great

 

[Jiaxi]

its cooked wdym

Don’t cook any of it

 

[PrimalPlasty]

Don’t cook any of it

i can eat raw meat with no problems, but i just get too full too quickly and dont get enough food inside of me, thats why cooking it slightly helps, also cause its warmer.

 

[veggiedietcell]

that sounds great man, i once made some cheese myself, its great

We do make our own cottage cheese which is pretty easy to make, try it out